.308 ARMOR PIERCING Bullets - TESTED! 

cant argue with that logic

Milspec tracers light at 100 yards so as not to give away the shooters position, do your research next time

Would like to see you guys do a penetration test with the .375 H&H Magnum. I know it's not a popular caliber in America but it is in Africa and very few (if any) penetration vids done on it.

The copper ingot looked like 2 - ³/⁸" to me

I would definitely say those were incendiary rounds, tracers start burning from inside the barrel because of the powder igniting the "pyrotechnics" in the tracer round and not on impact like in the video

M25 would be .30-06

well, the principle of not giving away the shooter goes for all tracers, I guess?

White tip fire starter

Well i was thinking the same thing, they were shooting them too close to the target, the ignition time was never reached

Thank you!

Agreed... shot many of these out of M240B machine guns.

Jason Jacques yes , to protect the bore and not give away Your specific position

between 50 and 75 is the norm and all they had to do was read the spec sheet found through google .maybe before they shoot next time they will do some research and look as if they have a clue as to what they are doing

@@thomasnakagema7239 complain a little more about the free video

Thomas Nakagema That is evidence that these guys are rather ignorant about ordnance

they need a little time to heat up

Yeah, should tried shooting at a target from at least 100 yards away.

Most NATO 7.62 tracer ammo is designed to 'light up' at >100m. This is to stop the tracers from showing your exact position.

and possibly shoot at dusk whilst still seeing the treeline.

Tracers are DESIGNED so they don't illuminate right from the muzzle. It's bad enough tracers work both ways but having it go right to the point of aim for the enemy is a terrible idea.

@Michael Tighe yep ever one knows the best rockets, planes, cars, tanks, guns, CPUs, medical equipment ect is made in the UK.. do they make any thing there?? Other than baby boys named Muhammad

@Joe Ç r/woooosh

Its just an idiotic yank attempt at sarcasm and humour, sorry about using the word idiotic but its the best way to describe these unintelligent colonials

@@jimdevlin2138 You don't get to call any country's population "idiots" after the Brexit debacle.

@AvengeVoltaire Because the hammer weighs 2.5 pounds, which is the assumed thing he is talking about, but he swerves and makes a joke about pound to dollar conversion.

​@@TallCanDan02cringe

I'm french so I'm not that good in english and I don't get what he means, someone to explain to me please?

@@Fractalcat-Guilty He's joking about undocumented immigrants being protected by sanctuary cities

He's basically saying screw the unconstitutional laws of the government.

@@Fractalcat-Guilty we have "sanctuary" states/cities which decide they are not going to obey laws regarding immigration, they "turn a blind eye" to illegal aliens. the joke is that he has an illegal gun in a "sanctuary safe," safe as in the thing you put valuables in

@@Fractalcat-Guilty I'm glad you asked. I should have figured it out, being American and all :P

You're generalising there, Wiggles. Denmark (happiest place on Earth), Iceland (loads of guns and almost no murders), DC (almost no guns but a huge murder rate), England (we can have guns but they rust), the Tarn Gorge (verrrrry pretty plus French food and French girls), Oberbergtal (verrrrry pretty plus an Austrian lady like Daisy Duke if she could bench-press 220 lb), El Salvador (save us) and Honduras (beyond Salvation) are all Outside California.

If you're willing to go the pa luty route, CA is still awesome- nobody looks for a gun factory say 3Ø minutes outside downtown San Fran. 😎

Theyre trying to make az california now smh

@@Sableagle England you can just get guns anyway legal or not you can get fully automatic 7.62x39 ak47s which are highly restricted in the USA our gun laws are a shamble we have criminals as young as ten walking around with Mac 10s that's all I have to say

Outside of California beautiful, inside California is just like the Kamala Harris, a beautiful blowhard

They were beasts!

TAOFLEDERMAUS they are*

TAOFLEDERMAUS it takes tracers around 50 yards to ignite. The drag of the air heats up the bullets and ignites the tracer compound. :)

No kidding. They were very impressive.

nope

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Why not just use birdshot? Less expensive, probably less prone to defects, can be used at ranges other than 35 yards... It sounds like a cool idea, but I've seen too many useless or defective novelty 12 gauge cartridges not to be sceptical.

Sounds like something I'd be a little scared to shoot. Also sounds like even if it worked right it'd send shot back at you at some point.

Brian Scott they are agriculture based rounds. They are used to scare birds out of a farmer’s orchard. They don’t contain shot, they are not intended to kill birds.

I've always heard it called scare shot. One hell of an explosive inside them.

@@bennettrogers7921 There are also "bird bombs" that look like the old M-80's that utilize a starter pistol looking device. These use a .22 blank to propel and ignite the "bird bomb" about 50 to 75 feet. These are much more powerful than the 12ga bird bombs. At least they were 20 years ago.

For your safety wear a helment and a semen proof vest!

Joe Morrell PROBABLY OVER A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEAD. ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION.

Dealy Plaza?

...When is the American gladiator comes on..?

I hear some pidgeons going "Coup! Coup!"

do you know where i can buy some

Brian Streufert We loved Wisconsin! The drive sucked but we were home by the following Tuesday. 🤔

Brian is correct about the tracers. Loved the video!

C Maugel i Just threw up in my mouth a little

Well then......I guess my 30-06 black tips will have no problem punching a hole in a level IV plate.

@@cryhavoc9748 black tip 30-06 goes right on through most things like its butter!

@@cryhavoc9748 level 4 is literally rated for 30-06 AP

@@Halal_Dan for one hit though 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@sorenottomybuddy Most ceramic plates from reputable manufacturers will take multiple rounds of black tip even when they're not required to.

Somebody got it!

It might end up in the Getty Museum.

Can't be worse than the crap in the Tate Modern, anyway.

Bubble someone did this not.long ago....I can't remember who. Shit.

Bubble state of California might buy it. They bought a damn boulder.

Don't think that's legal in commifornia because.... "It is known to the State of Kalifornia that some ingredients in spray paint may cause cancer." But if you did that in Nevada, its cancer free. I'll take two!

Thanks Rabbit! 😎👍

Soon Chuck. Soon.

Chuck Finley the mere thought of OG with a tramp stamp of Danny.......gave me space aids

Chuck Finley they definitely have a good chemistry

Doesn't take much to impress you does it...

Yep, his dinner will be in the dog again . . .

Alaskan Ballistics I was going to comment the same thing but you beat me too it high five ✋

I've noticed they usually ignite between 50-150 meters

Yep

what he said

agree guys, range was way to short but still fun to watch

Agreed

When Tx is full come on over to Kentucky there's plenty of room for all gun lovers, even the lefties lol. plus there are backstops literally everywhere cause all the hills n hollers.

@@AxeNutt94 too many people here already... but your gun oks your admission

+HotRodRay lol which gun I have a shit load?

@Richard Ensey Oaths to the constitution are a joke. We threw out the constitution a long long time ago. Also, cops don't seem to realize that even though practically all laws are retarded and immoral, they'll still happily live with a career to enforce those laws, all the while the 'officials' in government make their living by violating law.

The tracer compound is ignited by the powder charge. It has it's own oxidizer and doesn't need exposure to the air.

Would make a lot more sense, but this was back in the 90s - and as part of the conscript army we were always training with the cheapest stuff available (i.e. old, leftover ammo). Heck, my brother that's only 6 years my elder was issued a Kpist -45 ("Swedish K").

I did some machine gun shooting with tracers back in -96 in the FDF and they pretty much lit up at the muzzle but the compound was in the tip of the bullet.. Also they did give a bit of a flash when impacting on steel as the compound was splattered all over.. My enlightened guess here is that the tracers boys had here sort of ignited on the kinetic energy of the impact.. The coolest thing however was the 12,7x109 AA-machinegun spitting 800rpm belt full of tracers and incendiery.. Shit got on fire and dirt and splinters were flying all over.. Especially vivid was to see tracers ricocheting and flying half a mile arcs and incendiery igniting 100 meters up in the air after skimming from shit.. :D

BILL SCHNEIDER I have some Russian green tracers in 54r. I forget what compound it uses. I also read that the Japanese machine gun tracers were light blue.

@@StPaul76, it is highly unlikely (as in impossible) to have a tracer round constructed with the tracer element in the tip. How would you see it during flight and how would it be ignited and burned?? I think what you meant to infer is that your rounds were of an "incendiary" construction and, Yes, the incendiary material (powdered zirconium crystals usually) was in the forward-most part of the interior of the outer jacket. Upon impact with any "hard" target, the internal, dense, steel or tungsten penetrator (IF also an AP round) would obviously continue forward until it crushed the zirconium crystals, causing intense (!!) heat and, thus, the "flash" which can be quite pronounced. Depending on the kind of ordinance (but usually .50 caliber and above due to construction complexity and lack of interior real estate) rounds can include: Armor Piercing, Incendiary, Tracer or a combination of some/all of these. When assembled and the projo tip painted, the nomenclature for the round would be labeled as: API-T (Armor Piercing Incendiary-Tracer) to denote what it actually was. Tracers by their very nature are used to show where rounds are falling to ensure good target coverage. Armor Piercing are designed to defeat (AKA Penetrate) hard or hardened targets up to a given distance, thickness and material construction. Incendiary are designed to set fire to surrounding materials as well as to cause fuels/oils to burn when exposed to the HOT debris of the burning crystals. There you go. We are all more smartened up for the day. Overnout

Gyppor Yep! It’s happened in places like rural Colorado. The local authorities look the other way.

The entire state of Kansas is a sanctuary state for guns. They said 5 or so years ago no new gun laws would be enforced and any fed who tried would be hit with every charge possible

Of course, knowing the state of CA they'd crack down on any city that tried to defy their criminally stupid (and illegal) gun laws. They've been threatening people with fines (at least) if they cooperated with ICE and/or reported illegal immigrants. So given that, hey'd probably have no problem with threatening to defund any city that tried to ignore CA gun laws.

That's awesome!

Gyppor In Redding, California the local law enforcement claimed that the newest gun laws were unenforceable and will not be pursued. I heard police (in person) claiming that they wouldn’t even enforce the old laws pertaining to mag size and bullet buttons due to the endless pursuit of a true gun ban

It was like the Partridge Family all over again. But less incest and drugs.

.308 stood no chance

thank you!

You gots to do what you gots to do!

sinformant Not really that difficult and perfectly legal to do. You just need to buy a so-called 80% lower then get a drill press and get to milling out the insides of the receiver. After that it's a simple matter of getting it blued or cerakoted and adding the guts.

Phil Hsueh LOL I know the process. And I am a machinist by trade.

What's an undocumented gun?

Michael McCall home firearms. Examples would be an 80% ar15 lower, glock, 1911. Completely legal to make yourself, depending on your state laws. Federally they are legal, you just can not sell them or give them away to anyone, personal use only.

Most LEO's feel the same way

I am very happy to hear that, i hope your country can ride that wave of reasonable sanity you have right now and remove these nonsensical limitations. love your content!

It’s not illegal where they are. They’re in Nevadazona, yeah that’s it!

Every tracer I've seen is burning when it leaves the barrel imgur.com/a/HWTP278

TAOFLEDERMAUS depends on the ammo some can take up to 100yrds to ignite but cool video as always

It depends on the purpose of the tracer. If it is an "over head training" tracer then it is likely to be seen immediately after exiting the muzzle. If it is a tactical round, then the subigniter and igniter chain will burn without significant signature delaying initiation of the illuminating grain until it is downrange. If it is a "dim" tracer then it can't be seen at all without light amplification. If it is an IR tracer, then it can't be seen without an IR imager. It depends on when the rounds were manufactured, who made them, and how they are marked.

Me too got an Armalite AR-10 it's my favorite gun and like you said very available and good variety being a military round

Yeah he's pretty cool for a cop lol!

Edwin Sarkissian But, personal experience, you can’t fire a flare gun under water. 😳 We’d LOVE to have you down one day Edwin. Anytime you’re free on a Friday there’s a good chance Jeff will have cameras rolling. Bring the Cabron too!

Officer Gregg ok well let me know we might come by and film with u guys . It will be fun. I’ll bring bunch of flare guns and we can shoot in the air lol. And see how long it takes for it to hit back down first person to run is the looser

@@EdwinSarkissian Roman candle fights... With flare guns. Couldn't possibly have any ill consequences!

I would have backed up TWICE or more the distance . splatter and shrapnel are dangerous.

Edwin is quite correct you need a 100 yards distance before that tracer round will ignite or at least the rounds we used in the military operations worked in that manner.

thanks Paul!

thank you!

No problem Jeff.

That's wrong 😀

thank you!

thanks for the nice words!

haha thanks!

I set a range on fire with them once. They gave me 20 tracers, 40 ball and 2 magazines and told me we'd be shooting at 100m, 200m and then 300m, so I put all the tracer at the bottom of mag 2. The last shoot was 10 rounds grouping. It was a tight group, and the smoke cloud behind the target got a little bigger after each shot ... Fortunately, the brush and straw were sparse enough to burn out fast.

Just like a co-worker who talked about what a great shot he was. I brought in my 1911 with laser trainer in it and after work in the dark parking lot, started taking shots at a telephone pole about 50 feet away. I tried to hand it to him, but he said he refuses to "dry fire" a weapon. F'ing priceless.

Ooh rah !

Did you mean 5 inches at 500 yards? 5 MOA at 500 is 25 inches from point of aim. That's pretty terrible, and wouldn't allow you to even qualify to the Marine Corps iron sight standards.

Thank you sir. There will always be Fortnight special operators who know how to shoot better than those of us who run these guns daily to protect our lives.

Oh they are indeed "special".

The shots are fine, im just wondering why they know so little. Tracer rounds take a little ways before lighting up.. and a little "red paint or maybe copper jacket" no shit its jacket.

@@OGsDangerShow That guy's channel is nothing but him playing video games. When someone says shit like "it's been a few years... sharpshooter... military..." they're full of shit. You two can keep on 69-ing each other about Internet criticism and play it off like shooting at 20 yards with a rifle is difficult. The reality is that shooting at 20 yards is that you're shooting for the camera and not the practicality of the round. Anyone familiar with tracers knows ignition and burnout and anyone unfamiliar could search it on the Internet. This channel has always been amateur hour. Entertaining but, what isn't when you're shooting weird shit in slow motion?

@@enigma9789 because they're amateurs with toys.

Rob Goins Until my last day.

@@OGsDangerShow So on your last day are you going to throw a massive party and have a work free drug place?

Peter Carlson, sounds awesome!

I got all warm and fuzzy at the pickin and choosin laws

@@realblakrawb I bet officer gregg gets warm and fuzzy with levies and replevins.

Buffalo's Outdoors Fun is NOT legal in Cali so therefore we went “outside Cali” for this one. 😉 Thanks for watching. Love your recent 00 buck/ Flite Control vids. Future Officer Sergio and I just ran that same test with his new shotgun. Hours of fun for the whole family! Be safe, brother. 😎👍

With an emphasis on the “straight” part. 😎👍

Officer Gregg that's not what "she" said.

If your pistol grip extends below your butt, you're not CaliCompli ... so be sure to sleep on your back if you ever visit. For myself, I'd like to take a 16" AR15, an Enfield Competition Rifle (25.4" barrel bullpup AR180) a lot of magazines and ammunition and some building materials and tools out into the desert somewhere miles from anybody, set up a pair of 24' tall, 8' wide 0.5" plywood walls with an aiming mark on each near the top and shoot 10 rounds ball and 10 rounds tracer at one with each rifle from 100m, 200m, 300m, 400m, 500m, 600m, 700m and 800m to see how the group sizes compare, whether the two types become two separate groups and how much more spread there is after the bullets go sub-sonic, then pull back to 900m, 1000m, 1100m and so on and keep hitting them from as far back as I could to see just how far back I have to be before they won't go through.

If you do some research, you can buy "pulled down AP AND Tracer projo's to load for yourself. Google is your friend. 😉

thanks Kirk!

Can you tell me o How this worked out? Any stress marks on your brass? Any issues with accuracy? What depth on seating?

@@cjm321 mag length 2.800. primers were cci200's , maybe use mag primers next time. accuracy was good for pull's. about 1.2 in at 100yds. i loaded them hot , cfe223 is a slower powder. these M2 bullets out perform the lighter FN ap. even at a lower speed. brass was winchester.

Riiiiiiiight. Surely we weren’t in California. 🤔

Yeah. I was like "laws didn't change back to be reasonable did they?" I thought I missed an update :)

We barely have a $10 budget, and most of that goes to gas!

TAOFLEDERMAUS is there a way I can donate money to you guys ?

TAOFLEDERMAUS is there a way I can donate money to you guys ?

Phillip B patreon

Phillip B or send to me and I will do my best to make sure some of the money gets to them