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3D Printed Hydrofoil Surfboard - Will it Work? 

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A hydrofoil is an airplane-like wing structure under the water attached to a surfboard that generates lift. In this video I will mount an electric motor that will make it possible to lift out of the water and "fly" above the water.
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@dominik3187
@dominik3187 Год назад
I assume that the wings bend and a lot of lifiting power gets lost. Try to Analyse the under water situation by using a GoPro or such. Great video. Love to see part 2
@HaloWolf102
@HaloWolf102 Год назад
Bump
@brendanmassaro9595
@brendanmassaro9595 Год назад
That was my thought as well. Given how thin they are, when put under the load of a full person they probably just deform to the point that there is no lift
@sam-bn5hl
@sam-bn5hl Год назад
i thought so too
@alexwbakker
@alexwbakker Год назад
When I've seen commercial foils, they were VERY stiff - all solid CF and resin. I think the 3D print / wrap approach is not rigid enough Maybe 3d print a new one with room for a truss rod?
@PhantomPanic
@PhantomPanic Год назад
Or maybe good ideas from people that have created successful boards.
@JarcodeRover
@JarcodeRover Год назад
The presenting and editing makes it such a joy to watch! Nice job Simon!
@ChronicBronchitis-mz2vn
@ChronicBronchitis-mz2vn Год назад
Chaotic Evil editing at it's finest
@dfgaJK
@dfgaJK Год назад
It so satisf.....
@jayls5
@jayls5 Год назад
I just want to say that I love the humor laced throughout your builds as you run through the trial and error process.
@adrienviallet92
@adrienviallet92 Год назад
Great project ! Your main wing looks quite small, I do kitefoiling and the typical front wings are around 800cm2. Then the wingfoilers use bigger wings like 1000 to 1800cm2. I think you should try at least a 1000cm2 front wing with a 300cm2 rear wing for it to lift you over ;)
@retrohit8933
@retrohit8933 Год назад
I hydrofoil a lot and if you were to stand back a little more that would of definitely flew in the water. It’s a huge balance game.
@henryknowacki3554
@henryknowacki3554 Год назад
I have also a foil but electric and i think that you just need a bigger motor or bigger wing, is just not enough lift, if he leaned back more it would lift but the wing would stall immediately i have like 30h on a electric foil so i know a little bit
@retrohit8933
@retrohit8933 Год назад
@@henryknowacki3554Yeah I agree stall or un-natural flight angle on the front wing could also happen instead of flight. Definitely more speed could help too no matter wing surface area. However, these are all things worth trying but stance would be an easy test before tedious fabrication.
@EnlightenedSavage
@EnlightenedSavage Год назад
Yes ne needs to lean back more problem is the box to all the electronics are right where he needs to stand so he'll have to address that somehow.
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak Год назад
My gut feeling, is that the box is in the way, so he can't stand back any more. Something to consider for future designs I guess.
@chassmith7303
@chassmith7303 Год назад
yeah he needs to be able to stand in such a way that his center of gravity is a fulcrum for the wing
@chasgiv4
@chasgiv4 Год назад
You probably could have gotten it to work but you have the battery components blocking you from standing over the foils. My suggestion, for simplicity, is to add a footstop behind the battery and controller compartment. That way you can balance your weight over the foil. I don't think you have quite enough power to stand in front of the foil at this point. Maybe not even standing over it but worth a shot. Good luck. Can't wait to see your next steps and future projects.
@redman2751
@redman2751 Год назад
That’s what I was thinking. What would happen if he left the foil as in bud shifted the weight back. One foot behind the electronics box and one in front.
@steltron
@steltron Год назад
Correct. If his body weight is too far forward on the board, the foil will never lift him.
@capodad2u
@capodad2u Год назад
Yup you need your weight centered over the lifting wing. Can't believe he didn't consider that fact when building this.
@nono9370
@nono9370 Год назад
@@capodad2u has to be a lil in front of quarter chord to maintain stability, But at his speeds the wing is too small, he needs more power
@tuulkarijere9992
@tuulkarijere9992 Год назад
Most commonly the center of mass should be directly above the front wing. Now the back foot is roughly above the front wing. It really seems that there is some lift coming from the foil. Just try to stand like Charles suggested and the board/foil should rise from the water. If not, then you check the angle/size of your front wing. Nice work, keep going!
@Alex-gg8rt
@Alex-gg8rt Год назад
The foil sticking into the bottom of the board was hilarious! I think you need much much bigger wings. Also wings with a lower aspect ratio will make them stronger and more stable at lower speeds. Look at winging boards for inspiration.
@simonfauser4179
@simonfauser4179 10 месяцев назад
Not necessarily, since the plastic box was above the foil mast, it was preventing him from getting his weight back, also higher aspect wings are usually better at everything that isnt carving + yaw
@hvacinc
@hvacinc Год назад
Love how persistent you are at design changes that will help you reach your goals.
@machine2747
@machine2747 Год назад
I always look forward to your videos. You're not afraid to show the development process and the failures along the way. Keep up the great work and you'll hit a million subs before you know it!
@dries-pederjanse6249
@dries-pederjanse6249 Год назад
I really like your video style and how you show your mistakes and your trial and error, and you have great dedication. Edit: Is it possible to put jets on and have water cooling run trough the foil in to the board?
@skullcraftcustoms
@skullcraftcustoms Год назад
What I like about this video is you present even the fails as a fabricator and designer myself I have come up with all kinds of ideas that in theory should work but it takes me forever to perfect and get them working the way they are intended so kudos to you for providing the video footage because people need to understand the amount of work it takes to get a CustomDesign working correctly
@marsgizmo
@marsgizmo Год назад
great progress on this, looking forward to the next iterations 😎
@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958
Love the creative ways of putting on the wetsuit. I've been following all the jet-boards with great interest. Hopefully I can make one of my own one day. As an old guy who is 65, I can relate to issues getting it up. You're young and will definitely get it up the next time. The idea of using 3-d printed parts as a shape to fiberglass over is brilliant and should be real useful.
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk Год назад
🤣👍
@bobhawkey3783
@bobhawkey3783 Год назад
I love how you just iterate past things that don't work the first time. The little editing cuts are hilarious. Since I have no skills I can only suggest some Velcro in the electronics enclosure to keep things from sliding around. Oh and maybe a gasket for the lid. Keep creating!
@lachyborne4684
@lachyborne4684 Год назад
A couple other comments point to the biggest issue with your wing and not generating enough lift. In layman's terms, with a higher aspect wing (wider in width and narrower in height), more speed is required to generate equal lift, than that of a stubbier style wing. When you pick up speed you can clearly see the board trying hard, but there is just not enough surface area to make it for the max speed you can get up to. When you go to a higher aspect wing, you will increase your drag significantly, but the trade off is you will able to be get the board up an foiling! Foiling SUP downwind setups which are popular would be a solid place to start given the length and weight of your board, or some of the larger efoils, like getfoil! Great video as always my man!
@innercityprepper
@innercityprepper Год назад
Your delivery of lines and editing is the best. Always makes me smile.
@GoldenHat333
@GoldenHat333 Год назад
I tried basically the same project last year except I thought the board building from xps would be too time consuming so I just bought a cheap board from my local decathlon. Also did some research and found Ray Velinga' s videos explaining the hydrofoil calculations. he also has a book its a great read, it would help you a lot. One other difference between your design and mine is that I used two aluminium box section to strengthen the 1 m long spar, İt works great. now Im building a much stronger v2 cause the first one broke on the board-spar joint while testing.(on sea with me on it while my dad was pulling me with a boat. which was terrifying to say the least)
@SkootaKeir
@SkootaKeir Год назад
You should video the building process for the second version bro!
@trif55
@trif55 Год назад
big 3d prints like that really need some kind of extra strength, either box or threaded rod tightened down a bit like re-bar in concrete - I find thinking of 3d prints like concrete is good for the design process
@GoldenHat333
@GoldenHat333 Год назад
@@trif55 Very nice analogy. When talking about pla I pretty much always use concrete as an example, cuz pla is stronger on compression then tension especially if the print lines are perpendicular to the force. Also its stronger than some materials like abs but not as flexible.
@OzAndyify
@OzAndyify Год назад
I also used Al box section and shrink-tubed the bits. Not as strong as FG skin, but nice and smooth.
@GoldenHat333
@GoldenHat333 Год назад
@@OzAndyify interesting 🤔 now I'm thinking what if I shrink tube after fiberglass/epoxy. Does shrink tube peal off easy.
@tjarkmchenky
@tjarkmchenky Год назад
I'm a windsurfer from Germany. I'm pretty shure, that you need a bigger front wing. (maybe out of carbon)? You are really fast, so fast enough to get up. Also your Board is really long. The Foil Boards in Windsurfing are a lot shorter and wider. Then the board ist also pushing more water down. And maybe you need to shape your nose a little more like a windsurfboard. But so far, great job. Be careful, if you're getting it and the Board ist lifting it will be very unstable. And if its lifting to much, the foil will get out of the water und dann you will crash very hard.
@hoverparagliding
@hoverparagliding Год назад
As a foiler myself all you need to do is move the mast forward which will create more lift. And only a small movement which be very effective. You'll also want to adjust this setting quite a bit so make it adjustable. Great effort by the way, love it 👍
@kstorm889
@kstorm889 Год назад
he definitely needs a bigger wing. trust me, mine is small and bigger than his
@hoverparagliding
@hoverparagliding Год назад
@@kstorm889 yeah I agree, I'm running a 950cm2 wing on a fairly small board and his looks smaller than than that.
@yeasinjabed3630
@yeasinjabed3630 Год назад
The amount of patience you have its amazing . very inspirational
@TheSchmuckCreations
@TheSchmuckCreations Год назад
Your speed is fast enough to go up, but your wing is too small. Really impressive to see that the 3D printed mast resists with your second prototype 👌
@AlexLefevreArt
@AlexLefevreArt Год назад
Either the wing is too small, or it flex too much under pressure. I would recommend a full carbon piece.
@donovanreid427
@donovanreid427 Год назад
@@AlexLefevreArt it's both
@stevemazz3121
@stevemazz3121 10 месяцев назад
I agree it is both.... but for sure the wing is to small and maybe the wrong shape for lift under load in the water.
@iplop
@iplop Год назад
I'm amazed that the larger hydrofoil mast survived without being glassed. Great job on those new print settings! 👍
@leGringoo
@leGringoo Год назад
Honestly like your videos because you never back down if things go wrong or stuff breaks. Looking forward to the next part!
@GregBabineau
@GregBabineau Год назад
Your editing is fantastic. So much fun to watch and learn.
@ludovicosalvati3655
@ludovicosalvati3655 Год назад
the lift coefficient of a profile change if the angle of attack change, but also the drag coefficient increase if you move the center of gravity in the back of the board. a good way to find the best shape of the profile can be to use standard iso profile ,size the bigger wing to create such a lift taht should bee more or less equal to your body force plus the one of the surfboard itself and then computing the rear wing applying a momentum equilibrium. in other words in order to deesign easly the wings the procedure can be: 1 choose a standard profile for water application (you can find on internet) 2 consider that the angle of attack is 0 3 size the main profile to counterbalance the structure and your weight 4 size the rear profile looking ate the momentum conservation equation (if there is an offset between the center of gravity and the main profile lift force you have to consider it)
@oslogutt80
@oslogutt80 Год назад
Amazing project. You probably need a bigger wing with a stronger material like carbon or even glassfiber to decrease the flex...
@jimmym2719
@jimmym2719 10 месяцев назад
The 3D printed foils n Mask didn’t break is amazing and your patience is exceptional. Good work.
@luisf7780
@luisf7780 Год назад
That’s awesome. I’m always waiting for another video of yours. Truly an inspiration to keep myself of the bed and start working on a project. Keep it coming💪🏽🙏🏽
@Copeland1211
@Copeland1211 Год назад
check the flexibility of the wings, i suspect that they are bending giving you a different lift capacity than what it has been modelled for. Also a taller mast will give you easier lift, så perhaps the wing you have is modelled for no flex and tall mast, so you will need more power through speed to get equivalent lift. you can also make some cutouts at the back of the board reducing the trailing edge and thereby drag. Last thing, you might be able to get it to lift with some "pumping" but then you might just break parts. Great build though! and great storytelling of the challenges!
@chanceym6000
@chanceym6000 Год назад
this is probably right to some extent
@justavian
@justavian Год назад
Yeah, i second this. The wings seem like they are potentially not strong enough and are not keeping their shape.
@zahnatom
@zahnatom Год назад
you can check out actual foils for windsurfing boards to see how they do it(shape and size). i'd recommend windsurfing ones because those carry the most amount of weight(bigger board and a heavy rigg so a lot of weight)
@moite2665
@moite2665 Год назад
Or a downscaled one off of a moth (sail boat).
@zahnatom
@zahnatom Год назад
@@moite2665 if the structure scales properly then sure. windsurf foils are the perfect size though so they'll definitely work
@DemsW
@DemsW Год назад
Respect on the determination and execution, hope to see more
@P2TE
@P2TE Год назад
So many of these kind of projects on youtube are flexing by making it look easy and like ti worked first time. It's so great to see the iterative process. As for what I'd recommend: A bigger front wing will mean more lift, at the cost of a lower top speed. Looks like you're right on the edge of breaking free.
@aidendunlap9353
@aidendunlap9353 Год назад
I built my own hydrofoil through Clearwater foils and things I noticed with that is once you make it out of the water you lose all you surface tension/drag meaning you can go slower once you break free. Also make the wing thicker for more lift…
@tomjoad1060
@tomjoad1060 Год назад
Impressive. An inspiration to continue with our projects...)) Thanks
@BisdremisKostas
@BisdremisKostas Год назад
My suggestions: Place your center of gravity above your front wing. Cover all of your printed part with thick layers of carbon fiber, especially in mast connections . With glass you are way too flex. Seal better your battery box. Keep your speed controller as cool as you can. I'm really impressed that you get that fast with this setup. Looking forward for your follow-on video. Keep it up.good luck
@NorthShoreProductions
@NorthShoreProductions Год назад
Foiler here. You need a larger wing. Like 2x the size. The larger the wing the less speed you need to get flying. Double it and try again, also need the surfaces to be baby smooth. Nice work so far!
@OutsiderDreams
@OutsiderDreams Год назад
Great work mate! A couple of thoughts: 1. The lift created by the hydrofoil is proportional to the size of the wing and the angle of attack of the wing. See if you can design a few different airfoil sizes and add a method to adjust the angle of attack and test them. 2. You may need to make the connection between the board and mast stronger. When the board is out of the water your entire weight will need to be supported by that joint. Consider doing a test on land where you attach the mast to something solid and then stand on the board. If it doesn't break, you're good.
@pfolvig
@pfolvig Год назад
Your an inspiration mate. Keep it up.
@fredvizzan2199
@fredvizzan2199 Год назад
amazing project! Well done, tough endurance to make it working !!!
@alwaysflying6540
@alwaysflying6540 Год назад
I agree with the comment's. A great deal of people try to make perfect video's. I like the humor and the failures as much as the success. Looking forward to the next video
@marcusherold8356
@marcusherold8356 Год назад
Perhaps changing the incidence on the wings could help? Also I think you're right that lighter (and maybe stiffer) wings would be necessary.
@camdynkellett6782
@camdynkellett6782 Год назад
Foils are cool, but Efoils are pretty damn sick too! Wish they weren't so top heavy thanks to electronics... someday I'm sure that won't be an issue. Really enjoyed watching you learn haha
@bobwebber8521
@bobwebber8521 Год назад
Very entertaining video showing warts and all. Know you will keep trying till you get it. Thanks so much.
@TheBenenene10
@TheBenenene10 Год назад
What a cliffhanger, DO BIGGER WINGS! Nice wet suit transitions!
@JeremySeitz
@JeremySeitz Год назад
I love your edits, makes the videos really fun! Can't wait for more!
@hschokker86
@hschokker86 Год назад
Awesome idea and nice to see how far you already got with this. I did laugh a bit at that first design, still surprised the wing itself didnt break even in the second design. I think the wing is deforming from all the upward force it is receiving, you may need a slightly stiffer wing even. Edit: ah i’m not the first person who noticed. 😅
@spireEngineering6523
@spireEngineering6523 Год назад
I was looking at 3D printed wings for a while and was worried about them breaking. Happy to see it works and now I know I can use a 3D printed one too.
@matthwy1
@matthwy1 Год назад
Great build! Way to persevere. One thing which you might know, is that adding extra wall thickness when slicing has a much larger effect on strength and stiffness of 3D printed parts vs adding infill. It's why hollow structures can be very strong while reducing weight. Love what you are doing. I watch it with my kids. Best regards.
@joeledwards6587
@joeledwards6587 Год назад
wings definitely need to be stronger, they are likely deforming too much under the water to provide the needed lift, but otherwise this looks great so far, i'm sure there's lots else to do before next video. lol
@tong.clement
@tong.clement Год назад
I am looking to to build 1 for myself for a scientific experiment soon - just curious, how much did all the material cost you? Thanks so much!
@OldManHonken
@OldManHonken Год назад
Seems like you're on the right path. Keep going, I'm sure you'll figure it out! Can't wait to see it.
@tiesto213
@tiesto213 Год назад
Laughing out loud when the fuselage drove itself into the board! haha I find that when using a store bought e-foil sometimes you have to place your foot on top of the mast in order to make it lift. this is exactly where your electronics box is...
@alexphelan3737
@alexphelan3737 Год назад
You build it, we love it. I continue to dream harder. Great job.
@paulsully5784
@paulsully5784 Год назад
Nice work. Back foot should be placed directly above mast. So you need to be much further back. Maybe bigger foil. Stiffness of all parts it’s important too. Speed looks good.
@isaackay5887
@isaackay5887 Год назад
PART 2 please and thank you!! Great work, man!
@MG-sg4xf
@MG-sg4xf Год назад
its cool to watch! Nice job Simon!!
@philippphil3597
@philippphil3597 Год назад
Im hyped to see the new wings installed, nice project !
@Creative_Electronics
@Creative_Electronics Год назад
Awesone to watch this video Simon! Nice editing as always :)
@RealButcher
@RealButcher Год назад
Nice, nice. Good work AND presentation.
@dadandme
@dadandme Год назад
Great video! For your 3D printed foil, make it stronger by adding 2-3 layers of carbon fiber fabric/cloth or even fiberglass fabric/cloth (do not use fiberglass mat). Carbon fiber has way better mechanical properties (stiffness, rigidity, etc) . You can use an epoxy resin for that, the best resins for technical carbon parts are: epoxies and polyurethanes. Search online, you'll find a lot of details about this topic. Also, I am not an expert on hydrofoils but you probable need a bigger foil and more thrust on your motor/propeller. Good luck buddy!
@arentgrimmius282
@arentgrimmius282 Год назад
Its such a joy to watch you and your great designs
@justinattwood798
@justinattwood798 Год назад
Brilliant to watch , fantastic progress, it’s going to work keep going 🤙, thanks for posting
@scootergem
@scootergem Год назад
I've really got to admire your persistence and your dedication and getting the job done and how quickly you can change your wetsuit laughing good job good job great video it works need done on the design but you know that kudos
@visaginas360
@visaginas360 Год назад
Интересные эксперементы. Спасибо за ваши работы
@kariff89
@kariff89 Год назад
You can build anything! Love your vids!
@FinlayShellard
@FinlayShellard Год назад
Awesome man, you got some good speed up too! Can't wait to see the next iteration! :)
@rqrqrqrqrq
@rqrqrqrqrq Год назад
Keep it going man! We love your work
@georgeh5075
@georgeh5075 Год назад
There's something so funny about you painting the board and idk why
@pixartist8190
@pixartist8190 Год назад
really cool project, please continue that
@mattbellina5485
@mattbellina5485 Год назад
Rear wing is upside down. Fantastic effort. Keep it up
@jamesstafford6192
@jamesstafford6192 Год назад
Bigger wings will definitely help a lot and get more running time
@locke_ytb
@locke_ytb Год назад
Love this series and great video editing
@overlookedundead8711
@overlookedundead8711 Год назад
Sick! really looking forward to seeing that thing lift in the next video!
@Creation-mv2mv
@Creation-mv2mv Год назад
Your videos are always enjoyable to watch
@mersas23
@mersas23 Год назад
Very nice!👍😁 Great job and video!
@AlliedAirsoft
@AlliedAirsoft Год назад
Looking forward to seeing the working product.
@bishipc117
@bishipc117 Год назад
I love the shed man that looks really cool
@Xiaomila
@Xiaomila Год назад
After watching your videos, I am always willing to buy a 3D printer and start creating, but watching your videos is just too relaxing!
@Engineerisaac
@Engineerisaac Год назад
Its fun to watch you grow bud. You have come such a long way.
@werm88
@werm88 10 месяцев назад
Honestly great that you were able to go that fast. Bigger wing and I bet it will rise
@Hysterically-Inaccurate
@Hysterically-Inaccurate Год назад
Great video as always, Simon - you are a legend. As for those board, I guess maybe give it pitch control on the wings? I think that's what the sailing boat things have to account for different wind speeds. Good luck!
@ericensley2427
@ericensley2427 Год назад
Awesome job, I love seeing the failurs and then success
@peter360adventures9
@peter360adventures9 Год назад
Awesome. Persistent always pays off.
@everettw
@everettw Год назад
Sick! Great video. Looking forward to the next iteration.
@BiodunOnipede
@BiodunOnipede Год назад
Like this guy, no messing about. 1:06 into the video and the board is half built. Other channels will still be padding out the intro/greetings for 2 minutes. the missing satisfying moment tho
@Rouverius
@Rouverius Год назад
What an epic adventure! Honestly, I call this one a win
@dariorseventyeight
@dariorseventyeight Год назад
Several ppl pointed out two main possible issues: bending of the foils and the box impeding you to stand back enough. First I'd check foils bending and the effect of your body position on the board, I'd go for "static dry tests": block the front foil on a support and back foil under a support, get on the board to see how foils bent in order to keep you up. No need to go "full scale" like airplane wings' stress test yet you'll get an idea of what's going on and hot to adjust. For the foils you might use some Carbon Fiber PLA for higher rigidity + spars. You could make the mast thinner as well with spars inside and reduce drag.
@Gosuminer
@Gosuminer Год назад
I'm not smart enough for any helpful suggestions but I really do like this project. Good luck with the next iteration.
@KrankProduction
@KrankProduction Год назад
Could watch this all day.
@seankelly5318
@seankelly5318 Год назад
You just earned another long over due sub. Good luck with your projects bro.
@Moefongoe
@Moefongoe Год назад
Looks like a fun project.
@blueredbrick
@blueredbrick Год назад
0:44 ha ! I REWATCHED that same sequence a few times just for fun!
@JohnUllrey
@JohnUllrey Год назад
Keep up the good work. The mast the wing is mounted to may be flexing forward from the thrust pressure. You may need a brace going from the front side of the motor mount diagonally (45 degrees) up to the bottom of the surf board further up towards the middle of the board (front to back).
@hungryhungryhummer
@hungryhungryhummer Год назад
I love this. I never thought of using Fiberglass on 3d prints.
@ProlificInvention
@ProlificInvention Год назад
That's badass, from that first video I saw of a Hawaiian guy riding an unpowered hydrofoil board-I instantly knew that eventually powered hydrofoil boards were going to be awesome. I even tried to get my friend who builds aftermarket high performance wave runners and jet skis to build a prototype. Awesome work on all that 3d printing and building, I look forward to the next one.
@fuba44
@fuba44 Год назад
You make the best videos, thank you.
@REDboardriders
@REDboardriders Год назад
Great stuff. Couple of suggestions. It's all weight shift when controling the foil. So stand above the front wing. Do quick rocking from front pressure to rear pressure and back to front foot pressure to get flying. Much easier to do on a shorter board and with a flat deck. One foot either side of mast is essential.
@stefanszabo3
@stefanszabo3 Год назад
Very nice project !!
@LuFpv
@LuFpv Год назад
i tuoi progetti sono incredibili. un saluto dall'Italia, ciao
@BukkitViper
@BukkitViper Год назад
YES! Been waiting for this video!
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