3D Printed Saddles - How Are They Made?

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3D-printed saddles, what are they and how are they made! With the help of our friends at Selle Italia, they've invited Alex to find out and show you the process of how we end up with a saddle just like this! What do you make of 3D-printed saddles?
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@gcntech Год назад

What other tech innovations would you like to see us cover?? Let us know in the comments! 👇

@mikhailb1175 Год назад

Hello. I would like to see something about bike clothes. Especially interesting clothes for rain and wind wheather. And bike shoes too.

@iamdmc Год назад

seems like a resin-embedded TPU from the looks of it my concerns are: resin breaks down easily with exposure to UV Light (e.g. outside) so the longevity is in question I'd rather 3D print a carbon-fibre polycarbonate or nylon base, then print a solid TPU cover as they've done for maximum stiffness where it counts (base) and just enough give where it's needed (butt bones) Love all of my Selle saddles but will hold off for now on these. Especially considering that 3D printing is a cost cutting measure and the selling price of these will be enormous. Notice how they aren't leather-wrapped

@marcm9074 Год назад

Thanks Alex and GCN for the show. Very interesting product that I will be investigating. I think the hit the nail on the head with offering customizable saddles.

@jvogel431 Год назад

I have switched to the Specialized Power Mirror saddle recently and I must say that it is wonderful. I have done long rides on both my road and gravel bikes and I never notice or even think about about the saddle. I have ridden many saddles over the decades and nothing compares.

@gcntech Год назад

Great to hear that you've found the saddle that works for you! 🙌 Do you think shorter nose saddles are the way to go? 👀

@robertgray9807 Год назад

Interesting timing! I ordered the Selle Italia 3D Carbonario last week and got to ride it once before you posted this video. Knowing how it's made doesn't add to my bum comfort, but I can say it was really great to learn what you included. Oh, and the ride is spectacular.

@jonathan_guerrero 8 месяцев назад

Hi there, Can you provide an update after having it for a few months if you still have it? How does it compare as far as comfort?

@cb6866 Год назад

Thanks Toke...and crew . Love the seats

@Stirling1989 Год назад

Absolutely love this. I have an Selle saddle and it’s so exciting to see the future of cycling and the passion. Really interesting to hear that they don’t think this will eradicate regular saddles from the market. Fascinating.

@richardggeorge Год назад

That's because this is a loss making r&d exercise

@SteveBrill Год назад

Fascinating tech.

@mikecardwell6497 Год назад

I have tried at least 10 different saddles and ended up with the selle one . Then I was talked into trying a Specialized 3 D printed saddle it is by far the most comfortable saddle I have ever been on. They are very expensive but worth every penny l will never go back.

@BleakVision Год назад

Sorry Michele, but this is a little too obvious.

@marks4471 Год назад

I got the Specialized S-Works Romin EVO with Mirror saddle....best saddle I've ever bought! I also have the Fizik ANTARES VERSUS EVO R1 ADAPTIVE, but I prefer the Specialized saddle. It's unfortunately a trial and error modus operandi when choosing the correct saddle. Not every ass is equal!

@gcntech Год назад

Its always a case of whichever one works best for you!

@haksaw123 Год назад

I would imagine that the main benefit of lattice construction is to allow for strength, light weight, some flexibility and what I would consider to be the most beneficial, cooling. I not so sure expensive bib shorts are tough enough to withstand the rough finish, particularly in Muddy conditions which would act like a rasp. But I am willing to try it out for science 😉

@mlee6050 Год назад

There is me who wants cycling stuff without padding

@Millicente Год назад

Personally I love my power mirror and it’s infinitely more comfortable than other saddles I’ve tried. It really should be available cheaper though 😅

@yonglingng5640 Год назад

For Specialized's saddles, they've now made this available on saddles with titanium rails. Still pretty expensive, but at least it's now compatible with almost every seatpost. Not sure if it'll ever trickle down to their chromoly-railed units (Comp-level).

@donwinston Год назад

I question the assumption that these subtle differences in firmness makes any noticeable/significant difference. I've used carbon saddles with no padding an they are fine although it is nice to have some stickiness to prevent my butt from sliding around too much. In fact I believe that is the reason padding is even a thing on high performance saddles. Shape and weight is all that matters.

@xueyue30 3 месяца назад

worth to mention for those who plan to purchase 3D print saddle, it doesn't have silky surface, so instead of sliking our butt to find a sweeting spot during the riding without lift ass up, it requires a lifting motion. so for those who have fixed body position is it good. For those who always move a bit of butt postion like myself maybe is better keep traditional saddles.

@Mavrik-60 Год назад

That's great i like all the little holes that way when I'm riding and pass gass it has some place to go. Lol Next time I'm near my bike shop I'll be checking this new saddle out. Good stuff people keepemcoming.

@drusek57 Год назад

If we're ever in a group ride together, I'll make it a point to pull the entire ride! 😅

@galenkehler Год назад

This will be really intriguing if they can leverage this technology to reduce the cost of saddles. Selle italia used to be able to make reasonably priced racing saddles, maybe this new technology will help them get back to that.

@Emtbtoday 2 месяца назад

Crazy eh 34p to pring 300 plus to buy! As a designer, printer and biker myself I know what they cost to print just aswell for the company as many would have had to be printed and tested to get it right for the one tester who thinks it's perfect! You would need 5 different people different sizes and hights to have a better selection for body type! 1 size won't fit all even in 3D printed technology! Love how they make it sound to special liquid resins cured with UV I'd be very interested in how long they UV cure the resin to get that perfect hardness!

@markmahoney5255 Год назад

Fascinating video. Well done. Would love to try one once the price moves down market.

@gcntech Год назад

Thanks Mark, glad you liked it!

@ChrisCapoccia Год назад

what happens to that fancy lattice cover when you drop your bike or crash? does the edge turn into a bunch of barbs tearing your shorts?

@yonglingng5640 Год назад

I don't think they can tear Lycra, they'll just dangle around. I remember seeing a slightly damaged one.

@tinglydingle Год назад

My main misgiving with these is that I ride a lot of gravel, and imagine that lots of small rocks would become trapped within the lattice fairly quickly. I've never ridden one, so have no evidence to support this, but I'm unwilling to spend £300 on an experiment.

@TheSamwild Год назад

It would be interesting to see the next innovations in saddle development.. perhaps generative design to minimise weight and increase stiffness

@shauncrowther5299 Год назад

Got one love it! Love the tacky finish, could make a great TT saddle.

@treyhorn5645 Год назад

Absolutely fantastic....

@gcntech Год назад

Thanks!

@slowcyclist4324 Год назад

Love all the negative comments from folks who seem to know everything about its performance, despite never having ridden one before. Who needs product evaluation engineers when you have RU-vid experts!

@tomasiskooo Год назад

Exactly. I have 3 3D printed saddles. Fizik Antares Versus R1, S-Works Romin Evo With Mirror Black and few days ago I bought Selle Italia SLR BOOST 3D KIT CARBONIO SUPERFLOW. They are all more comfortable than their standard equivalent, but the difference is not that big. 3D printed saddle wont make a difference if the shape or fit is not right for you.

@andreasolsson2336 Год назад

bro-science is strong ^^

@SuburbaniteUrbanite 7 месяцев назад

I wonder if these will be expanded to flatter and commuter saddles.

@YoSpiff Год назад

Fascinating. I think I'll stick with my leather Brooks for now.

@Murgoh Год назад

I think the possibility of making personal customized shapes is really the only reason to 3D-print saddles in the first place as 3D-printing is such a slow process it makes absolutely no sense for mass production. Yes, 3D-printing can be used to make shapes that are difficult or impossible with other methods but it's really not necessary for a bike saddle.

@michaelpeppersack8599 Год назад

very interesting

@gcntech Год назад

Thanks!

@edb8120 Год назад

It would be easy enough for them to offer a few (3?) base sizes and them print covers with a three of four customized variables (such as thickness and density). After all printing different variation would not cost any different than making them all the same.

@KNURKonesur Год назад

Anyone know the weight limit on those saddles?

@TheMoodyedge Год назад

Helloooo Hambini fans 👋🏼

@BoomsRiddico4868 Год назад

You must be another hambini follower!🙄🥱did you like David Koresh also?? 😂

@TheMoodyedge Год назад

@@BoomsRiddico4868 Prefer Timothy McVeigh.

@dundeedideley1773 Год назад

This is the marketing wank hambini talks about in its purest form

@LouieBaLLz Год назад

@@dundeedideley1773 And it'll only cost you $500 for that marketing hype. 🤣🤦‍♂

@chrismadge7292 Год назад

Have I missed something? What’s the point of the 3d printed saddle?

@kennethward9530 Год назад

I would be interested in knowing how easy it is to clean out dirt and grit from long rides in inclement weather from this saddle’s open mesh. Surely the GCN team can get some data). I had a beautiful white Selle Italia Turbo saddle destroyed in a rainy double century weekend, would hate to lose a 300+ dollar saddle to a weekend of road splash.

@ScotChef Год назад

I want one ❤

@iamdmc Год назад

@mlee6050 Год назад

I would have to disagree on UV bit as depends on how you print it and the filament, from look they use UV light anyway to cure the prints

@toslinked Год назад

so how does it ride?

@darrenhill8503 Год назад

Interesting topic

@gcntech Год назад

Anything else you'd like to see us do a video on?

@darrenhill8503 Год назад

Is there a chance you could do a video on the History of Bianchis and their new production factory in Italy please 🙏

@EvendimataE 5 месяцев назад

what is that material, is it like a plastic or rubber?

@gcntech 5 месяцев назад

a mixture of both!

@williamhilliard7386 6 месяцев назад

That is the future and it's coming very soon

@SrFederico Год назад

As 3D printed saddles are quite sticky, you are sliding around in your bibs rather than the bibs on the saddle. I did not like that when testing, and I think it is the wrong interface for the sliding motion. If sticky saddles were a thing, why don’t they make their traditional saddles more sticky? I would like to see a 3D printed saddle with a classic closed overcoat, marrying the best of both worlds.

@SrFederico Год назад

@slavelaboringkid7597 You may be quite right with the marketing/bragging rights, but it should be TPU and not carbon, and manufacturing - as seen in the video - seems to be quite costly in comparison to cutting some foam.

@norsangkelsang7939 Год назад

I want to see a San Marco lite design with a depression down the middle

@buzzman4860 Год назад

Waiting for a Max Flite 3D

@ADVRaiderKTM Год назад

Great episode. 3D saddles seem to be a bit of a gimmick

@tiger2too18 Год назад

Did you get to keep the 3D printed saddle?

@AutiSam1974 Год назад

Emperor's new saddle

@Hill_Walker Год назад

Not entirely sure whoever at GCN liked this comment understood the reference 😅

@AutiSam1974 Год назад

@@Hill_Walker i thought the same 🙂

@NikolausLim Год назад

Only an emperor can afford this saddle. It's a slang among Indonesian cyclists, I guess. Referring to s'thing crazy expensive only a sultan could afford. Some of the folks here on the comment section use "dentists".

@ignacio952 3 месяца назад

This made me wonder... Why did disc brakes replace rim brakes? might be an interesting video

@BleakVision Год назад

Si si, you can now a collect your cheque at a the marketing department. Ciao bella!

@everydaycarryzilla1591 8 месяцев назад

I suddenly remember that Adidas Shoe...

@ebikescrapper3925 Год назад

They use 3d resin printing Resin printing lets engineers, designers, artists and hobbyists 3D print high-quality objects that they cannot get from filament-based fused deposition modeling (FDM) printers. The process beams ultraviolet (UV) light into a tank of liquid, resin, triggering a reaction that solidifies the resin into a hard plastic.

@iamdmc Год назад

resins are also ridiculously toxic, impossible to recycle, and break down easily with exposure to UV light

@rachelharvey71 Год назад

Did Albert get to keep a saddle??😂

@luukrutten1295 Год назад

I still dont get it. These companies are not scanning each individual pelvis geometry to then manufacture a perfect saddle made to fit you! Which is something I would pay the premium for. What is really the point of 3d printing these generic saddle uppers. Its just another padding layer, just with a bit more fancy alterations on regions of the saddle. Whatever you think about saddle padding. Saddle padding is mostly pointless! Its just there to solve the mismatch in shape between your pelvis and the saddle. If the saddle shape is right for you, you don't need any padding, or maybe only a tiny layer. Since you are allready wearing good quality shorts with plenty of padding.

@sadlfjasdfacv Год назад

Fi:zik has been doing this for almost 10 years now, but they didn't buy a video from GCN.

@bikedawg 9 месяцев назад

I tried these Selle Italia 3D saddles and they are horrible. The whole concept of the mesh 3D print is to add to conformity, but the material is so hard and stiff it is worst than a traditional foam saddle. They need lessons from Specialized who uses a much more compliant material for 3D print resulting in saddles that are way more comfortable.

@BLITZKRIEG1 Год назад

lolol got mine on ali

@luisll5171 Год назад

Anybody has a 3d prinzed saddle of aliexpress. How do you like them?

@lisa-janelait5822 Год назад

Alex I loved the vid,very informative as with most of your content! sit bones are not a issue. Not for me anyway (L2)! Not to embarrass you whist presenting but you need to include the issue of female soft tissue, this subject of soft front tissue for woman is still not addressed. I can't commit to trying the saddle as it could be a expensive purchase I may or may not regret 😊

@iberiksoderblom Год назад

Oh yes, its the future and more is to come.

@edwarding4355 Год назад

No the big question is whether the price can come down.

@savagepro9060 Год назад

GTN: 3D Printed Saddles - How Are They Made? Answer: with 3 'd's . . . Delicate, Don't Damage

@markburrow5916 Год назад

Will this design not ruin bib shorts rather quickly?

@hayes6262 Год назад

£400 saddle yeah cheers for this

@brittle1 Год назад

Well how they're made is kinda apparent inside the name isn't it?

@davidfink4963 Месяц назад

Did he say hard work? If you sont need boots and gloves, its pretty easy

@RobertHopkinsArt Год назад

What's the percentage of professional bike riders using 3D printed saddles?

@slowcyclist4324 Год назад

Comfort doesn’t pay the bills for pro riders. Are we pro riders living on paychecks from our racing performance? No. So our priorities are drastically different. We ride our bikes to spend on toys and gizmos to play with. Performance isn’t our priority. Having fun with gizmos and comfort is

@chrisridesbicycles Год назад

Custom saddles are the long awaited next step after custom insoles in shoes. In the hands of knowledgable bike fitters they have the potential to cure a lot of pain.

@nickc4716 Год назад

It’s clever I suppose, but mainly just seems like a solution looking for a problem.

@advantagemarine7305 Год назад

All of that waffle and you didn´t even try it or show how it is attached to the rails?

@Emtbtoday 2 месяца назад

That's the only bad thing with 3D printing with Resins it is not recyclable! Once it's washed in the spinner as they call it IPA wash really the waste has to be dumpped at your local chemical plant! So it's definitely not "Green" for the planet if your concerned with all that!

@goofyridersshop Год назад

Italians and talking with their hands :)

@jirihutecka9020 Год назад

It looks like this saddle must destroy clothing by rubbing..

@CyclingGeo Год назад

I’ve had the Fizik 3D printed saddle for 1.5 years and it’s been okay on my bibs so far.

@andreasolsson2336 Год назад

s-works romin mirror here, no problem, but the top layer is grippy. Works well if your style is to stay planted.

@CyclingGeo Год назад

@@andreasolsson2336 Yeah, mine is as well. I was worried about sweat making it slippery, but no issues.

@jitterspec Год назад

The video just teaches the chinese how to copy this tech. Im surprised that Carbon and Selle Italia didnt protect more of of the process. He says the tech is how to bond 3d structure to shell is proprietary. Thats it???

@antonyarovyi6983 5 месяцев назад

Why are you so sure? China produces such carbon 3d saddle already several years. 😂

@jitterspec 5 месяцев назад

@@antonyarovyi6983 you are probably right. AliExpress shows hundreds of China 3d printed saddles for sale.

@BRMCaptChaos Год назад

Losing me a bit here GCN. So you travelled to Italy to tell us all how great Selle Italia are for getting us out of motor vehicles? Why not just cut and paste the marketing blurb?