Our Response video is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wwPan4eK71s.html Also, the prototype did not have the support rod support, which greatly increases the stability of the ship.
Thank you for your response, though 'support rod support' might be a bit redundant As a military person with over 5 terms in Military career field I know about system redundant description title redundancies. ;)
Response was spot on. To clarify for folks I used ABS for this because I mostly made cosplay pieces and use ABS because of its higher heat tolerance. I rarely use PLA but have started experimenting with PLA+. In hindsight, PLA would have been a better choice. So for the next ship. It'll definitely be PLA+!
I love how the intro was essentially a Toy commercial :D "WOW! IT DOES THING!" "WOW! *READS FEATURE FROM THE BOX*" nice one Seth! (also a cool project in and of its self :))
The Traveller geek in me is forced to point out that in the 490 hours this took to fully print (counting the odd fails) you could have just about completed three separate FTL jumps. :)
Thanks Seth for the review! The commercial version DOES come with an air raft. Issues with the front landing gear are possible material-based, and have been solved, also there are alternates now. You are not meant to clip in the drive compartment the way you did, I am going to do a response video to show. :) Great review.
@Feelefant Affenhand At least until the next Kickstarter in late October, and it will be available in that one too for around the same price (depending on the USD vs. SEK at the time). Although the Kickstarter will have a greater delay in availability.
@@SSkorkowsky I can't get that intro out of my head. Now I'm just thinking of a whole line of toys with adult men in them instead of kids. I'm sure my wife would be proud of me in a commercial like that and playing with new toys again like a kid. Then again I did get back into miniature painting recently and I want to get back into RPG games, so maybe it's not a far stretch after all...
I am impressed. I do not even play Traveler but this is just wow. I have that feeling like a kid "I'll just print my own toys" Not practical? -- Isn't that most of this hobby :P
I can't wait to see one of these at a future gaming convention - one of ships sitting on the table will definitely draw some attention to the Traveller games. (I actually managed to play a session of Traveller in my very first gaming con, in 1988. Back then we'd have been impressed with decently printed character sheets. The idea that we could eventually print a scale model of the ship would have blown our brains clean out of our heads.)
Seth, so far you mentioned how your players have made dice, leather facehuggers, and now 3D printing. Could your players come on and talk about their crafts and gaming?
I seriously want to get deep into Traveller games now, just so I can have reason for this to not be my next desk toy 😅 Plus, seeing any of my players' faces when I bring out detailed 3D terrain is just priceless.
Sorry Seth but every time I hear you say, “air lock” I’m constantly reminded of ALEINS when Ripley is going over what happened on the Nostromo during the board meeting an the lady at the table tells her that they have found no evidence of the creature she describes, to witch Ripley replies, “- because I blew it out the god damn air lock”! Other than that, another great review. 👍
I recently printed 2nd Dynasty's Shuttle from one of their earlier KS's. I have it in the process of assembly and priming, planning to use it for an upcoming sci-fi game!
Well, since 490 hours is about 20 days, I don't think anybody can be surprised that it took a while to get it built, painted, and reviewed. The thing is bloody cool, and the other ships I saw on 2nd Dynasty's site were similarly excellent. I especially like how some of the modular builds allow some ships to look appropriate for different subgenres, skirting around licensing issues to do so.
I haven't even played Traveller yet and I already want this, it's amazing, ship sets are a great idea and I'd love to see what else they do with this idea going forward, what I would really love is if I could purchase the model for Tabletop simulator
Great video, Seth! I'd love a Free Trader. I suppose the best use you'd get out of this kind of product would be the Azhanti High Lightning but it would be a serious expense to just use once...
I think the Azhanti High Lightning would take up a small warehouse. It'd take an army of printers and the paint required would be measured in gallons. It would also make for one hell of a badass setting for some wargaming convention battle. AzhantiCon? AHL-Con? We'll have plenty of time to name the convention while it's printing.
@@SSkorkowsky For Azhanti High Lightning - you would presumably build individual decks and only play play on one at a a time - though the race track fighter hanger decks for the Rampart's would be amazing
490 hours? Ouch. It looks awesome though. I am totally impressed. They truly nailed it, thanks for sharing this Seth. Makes me want to purchase a 3d printer and start printing. lol.
I think it's cool that people are creating models like this and stretching the boundaries of what you can do with 3D printing. But man oh man having to have two different printers and spending that long just with the prints not to mention the amount of time you have to spend then assembling and painting it, that's a project. I look forward to the improvements in 3D printing which will make something like this become easier and easier because right now I don't want to do something like this this bad yet. But as fast as 3D printing is improving, it's only a matter of time.
If your Traveller game has a FIREFLY vibe, then incorporating the ship itself as a setting would make a lot of sense. Even in episodes where they got into trouble on some planet or moon, Serenity was always the central setting of the show and at least some of the action in each story would take place there. Having a model as cool as this one would only encourage more of that, which isn't a bad thing.
The gang segment is just like old toy commercials and, heck, that's what this model is. Sure you can use it to help visualize a game setting, but it's really a fabulous play-set. :)
Nice review, and awesome ship! I just want to add that even if the model is not really practical as a part of an actual game, a model like this would really make the characters' ship come alive in the minds of the players. Spending leftover time looking at it gives a much better feel for the layout, and you can decorate each character's state room, place that weird alien artifact next to the coffee machine, paint the acid stains in the engine room, and so on to make it even more alive. That sense of immersion would be the big win for me, even when not moving miniatures around the ship.
*sigh* And there was me, years ago, always promising myself I'd make a scale model with balsa wood. *sniff* I love it, absolutely love it! But this breaks my heart for a past intention. :-)
As a fellow man-child, I enjoyed the unbridled preteen enthusiasm; we've all been there and some of us LIVE there, lol. I mentioned this on fb, but, I don't really have the room for this, but would very much lay down some quatloos for a VR version based on the model, that I can just sit "inside of" and experience while thinking about the game... maybe even use for staging virtual photo shoots in. And I wouldn't have to cry if it fell off a shelf.
Looks cool. Also looks like a LOT of work. The walkthrough made me laugh - reminded me of the scenes in Galaxy Quest when the nerds guide Nesmith and DeMarco through the Protector’s lower decks.
Haha, great reference. It was fun to dig through all the Type S lore, talk to the Traveller RPG facebook communities, and compare different versions, and of course Marc Miller himself. At the end of the day, I got a fair bit of creative freedom enhancing the design, and trying to make it as faithful to the deckplans as possible.
Wow! between the model, and the digital render I am more than impressed, not only with these specific things but the implications of how much cool crap will be possible because of the availability of these techs.
I've been playing 3D VTT lately and good lord, this model makes me wish I had a huge room dedicated to these kinds of props so I can do similar things in real. You've done a good job of painting it, so much that I'm really envious! Congrats on getting it done :)
I'd love to print this out. I would however use resin for anything that isn't just a large plate, some parts would get reinforced with metal like the small bits you pointed out near the "wiring". I hope they do more ships. Also, props to the designers. They added a bathroom! Already a superior ship over anything in Star Wars. That universe needs hyperspace travel so you can get to the nearest starport in time so you can empty your bucket before it smells too much.
The lower deck is meant to be lifted straight out, but it looks like you've got parts that are meant to be left in the ship attached to the removable parts. A work around could be to fix the air-raft room walls to the deck like you've done with the airlock walls and then remove those clips you mentioned. That way you might be able to lift out that whole section without having to detach the back panel..? The S-Class is an absolute beast of a model - good job on getting it built! Goodness knows how big the Freetrader will look. I have the files for their Scout Ship Beta model which I girding myself to print - at over 2ft long it'll be by far the biggest thing I've ever printed but it's still a fraction of the volume of this monster.
I'm in the process of printing the hammer head version of the Scout Ship Beta, then we will be printing the Wayfinder, then this lovely S-Type Scout hopefully by the time that is all printed we will finally have the Freetrader available to buy.
@@jeremyherndon2974 The Hammer Head does look very cool! Personally I'm marrying the Patrol and Civilian variants (some chopping up of parts in Meshmixer is required) to add a 3rd deck, a nose turret, and in place of the Patrol's side turrets I'm adding the Chimera's VTOL Engines for atmospheric landings -- I've maybe put a bit too much thought into this!
@@nrgspike That sounds sweet. The Hammerhead has a bottom turret under the nose but the VTOL Engines on the side sound sweet. An Extra deck could be interesting as well. Hope it all goes well.
This looks like something that would do well as an injection molded model kit as well. The downside with injection molding is that good molds are stunningly expensive, so you need to be sure of a pile of sales, or have a deep bank account already, to make that leap.
I have the original "little black books" and all the gear that was produced for them. You've warmed the cockles of my heart. This is perfect! How did I miss this Kickstarter?
It wasn't run on Kickstarter is went through the MMF (my mini factory) backing platform, I think they may have missed some of their audience because of this, but you were able to get the files as soon as you backed it. I haven't started to print mine yet but I hope to have one by this time next year.
I am about 40% of the way through printing one. I did up the scale to 115%, so that I would not have to re-base some of the models that I planned on using in it. I will say that increasing the size seems to have eliminated most of the problems that you have mentioned with the print.
Going by the response vid from the manufacturer, some of Seth's issues may be the material he printed in. There's a lot of variation in how sturdy different resins and vinyls can be, and it makes a bigger difference with something this huge than most gaming stuff.
@@richmcgee434 I actually don't think that ABS is a bad choice for printing this, and it might end up being the more durable long-term material. For instance, it would be a shame to have a print that took a few hundred hours get warped by being stuck in a hot car. We don't know what type of printer or print settings were used either, which might have made for a bigger difference than the material used. ABS was always off the table for me as I don't like printing it due to the fumes and where my printers are set up in my house.
Alright, that is just freaking super nerdy cool! Yeah it looks like it would be an issue from time to time if used for gaming sessions... but come on we all know that every tabletop RPG player would love to play at least one game session with it being used! To the people who created the 3D printing files for it, my hat's off to all of you! Also thank you for letting Seth and his friend have access to them so they could show it off. Brilliant marketing play on your part. To Seth and your friend who printed and I'm guessing helped with the painting. Terrific work on both of your parts. I'm glad that you guys stuck with it till total completion, even suffering through misprint and technical issues. Yeah somethings are simply better to use a 3D resin printer on.
When the time comes that my Scout Ship Beta The Wandering Heart is ever completed, I intend to use her for Stargrave. Her chin-mount chain gun and ventral turret could come in handy in keeping the baddies away from my crew!
For some of those pieces that break (like the landing gear) have you tried doing an infill of 100%? Also might want to look at inner wall thickness as well. Also for the clip issue, take a look at purchasing some small magnets, drill holes and glue them in. It helps with attaching/detaching sections. A mechanical fastener can be an annoyance while pulling things apart. Magnets are snap on/snap off.
The part that embarrasses me (more than 2nd Dynasty's response that the reason for my trouble getting to the hold is because I fused the panels wrong) is that I've been using magnets to attach mini ships to flight stands for over a year now and it didn't even occur to me to do the same thing with the ship panels.
Hey Seth, I know there are sci fi 3d printed "Dungeon Tiles" (I have some). It would mean printing out more tiles but a work around could be printing out those tiles for the upper and lower decks (have the middle deck of the ship exposed for play). It it's possible take the set dressing (cargo containers, ect) out place them on the dungeon tiles..... it takes up more table real estate but that way you could have all three decks in play at the same time.... from the video it sort of sounded like you can't do that with just the model. For the price and what you get the guys at 2nd Dynasty have a good things going. If I had an extra $100 & and extra roll or two of filament I could seriously crank out a bunch of nice sci fi stuff from their offerings.
I love the model. but some 3d printing issues. Resin is not stronger(it's most of what I print in), your landing gear broke at layer lines likely due to using ABS because of the higher heat needed. Tell your player to print in PLA, it's both stronger(or at least as strong) and easier to print (and plant based rather then oil based) thanks for the fun video. that Intro was epic.
Ah, yes, nearly everyone's "my first star ship". Our earliest campaigns were in a Type S (we did change to a Vargr Corsair ship at one point and a number of others) and another campaign (different crew) had a Free Trader. I now want both just for my spaceship collection.
I love this. I own a few lifetime models that are awesome. A friend once built a scale Empress Minerva far trader from scratch and it was amazing. And huge. Great vid as usual.
@@mikestanmore2614 Need a mansion! I still have the original floorplans, although the box, booklet and extras got lost somewhere along the way. But I got the FFE Classic Traveller CD-ROM so I sort of have those too. Must use it in a face to face game sometime...
@@jameshenderson4876 Yes, I've still got a few of the FASA boxed floorplans that I dust off now and then. I found them to be a more useful size of ship than monsters like the Azhanti
Nice ship still, very cool! Though not Traveller, Starfinder has an Adventure Path that has a good section taking place on a ship. Believe it is first book of Threefold Conspiracy. Longer campaigns taking place entirely on one ship is a lot of fun!
What an amazing model, see Seth this excited was just great ... and mirrored my own thoughts. The level of detail is stunning and the inbuilt lamps and illuminated drives blew me away :D (I maybe start schemeing with some 3D-pritining friends later...) A slight difference in taste: The ship is a pit to spartan for me. I prefer staterooms that are more like those of an ocean liner (own toiletts and showers) and a fresher with a bathtub or whirlpool :P - just to give the crew some extra stressrelive options in jump space ^^ All in all an amazing review for an amazing acessory :D
@@SSkorkowsky Thanks Seth, I did visit the link after my grumble and realised it wasn't too late... 400 hours on a 3d printer... Hmm... Even more to print those sweet stretch goals...
That blank wall in the engine room between the two maneuver drive modules is really begging for a pinup calendar. Bonus points if the engineer is a xxxenophile and it's all hot Aslan catgirls or Hivers shaking hands or something.
2 years later and I still want this thing, just need to the space/time for a 3d printer >.>. Being getting into Traveller as of late and thinking of doing a solo Traveller game using GRUPS (not using GURPS Traveller mind you but running more of a direct conversion including rolling 3d6 for stats and modifying the life path system. GURPS Traveller is just GURPS with the Spinward Marches setting which is fine but I want more of a classic Traveller feel with the better over rules of GURPS... wow this turned into a long aside lol) but even past that being an awesome set piece for that experiment, I think these models would be amazing to run games of Snap Shot in.
Get a copy of Challege issue 46, it has three shipboard scenarios, two for Traveller and one for 2300 AD. Bonus: They're all horror scenarios. You can get the full run of Challenge from Far Future Enterprises.
