[4.1] Do Visions Come From Dragons?! - Project:Teyvat (5/5) 

It's still very solid from my novice lore enjoyer's perspective, can't wait for that next video to see what I missed here and to what other conclusions this might take us. The overall theory still makes a whole lot of sense, even more so imo since 4.2 for the part about humans being in fact dragons at their core, forced to don a human form without being aware of it. Plus this whole "earth reborn" with a former human and fake god supervising everything is giving me such strong Xenoblade vibes. And it's really not unlikely, knowing Hoyoverse and the way they connect their games together. Great work yet again, and looking forward to your next videos!

Haven't watched the full vid yet but from the premise I think Furina's SQ massively implies it. Neuv mentions in his voicelines about how disappointing it was that Furina had stopped acting, and would be sure to be there if she returned. Then, when she was forced to act and sing again she received her vision at the perfect time. And we alr asked for the stage from Neuv, so he 100% knew what was happening. I think the both Arkhe thing is more related to the fact she is still Focalors minus the divine spirit, but those tie together a bit too well to be a coincidence imo

I love your ability to adapt to new lore drops by rethinking you ideas instead of sticking to them and calling others out, we need more theorist like you

After reading Neuvillettes Vision story, I RAN to this video to see if you or someone else mentioned it in the comments. I'm also super excited for a follow up video!

One question that I would like you to explore Ashikai is this: Are Gnosis the stolen Authority of the dragons? Or are the seat itself the Authority and the Gnosis just a link to Celestia? I ask this because Focalors says when she is explaining her plan that "she will kill Hydro the seat itself where the Archon sits", or something like that, and that will give back the power to the Sovereign Hydro Dragon. That makes my think that the seat it's the authority and the Gnosis is just a boost or power up. That will also explain why an Archon needs to name an heir for the elemental throne, doesn't? I don't know, I'm kind of confused here.

brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooO

Mind blown 🎉🎉🎉🎉

ouu you smart

those scales are most likely going to turn those people into Serpent Knights (or dain/pierro's hard skin scales), less likely a dragon.. but a good theory nonetheless

​@@BadassHatdogRather in Hilichurls. They also have scales and black skin.

And wriothesleys constellation is cerberus 👀

wooow never thought about it nice idea

Neuvi's constellation also looks like a sea serpent

@@Cajun_Seasoning well he is the Hydro Dragon

Also the sealing

oh

before 4.1 I thought Neuvillette was k'haenrian because of his pupils well...

OH SHIT, THE EYES

OH

THE REPTILIANS, THEY'RE COMING.

Lolol

Ayaka's deleted panties are coming back??

@@canaldecasta Oolong 5* banner when

Imagine if that's exactly what Tsaritsa wanted to do XD She wished to create a "New World" from ashes

@@vera_light She wants Porunga to build the Teyvatians a new Namek 😛

kinda made me rethink why rhinedottir/gold wanted albedo to find the truth of this world.... the truth of this world is thst it used to be ruled by dragons i guess

Rhinedottir: Wanted to make human, made dragon. Whoops? Celestia: Wait. WAIT WAIT WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL.

Wait what's Albedo's lore again, havent checked.

@@Julian-Lehmann He's a homunculus made from chalk

Why what about dei?

Yess I was thinking this too. Neuvi and apep have a lot of dna-like structures in their attacks. Which could tie back to their authority of literally shaping laws in teyvat, the ability to shape the very dna of living creatures. And irminsul is strangely modern to be in teyvat, it would fit more in a world like honkai impact or in starrail than in a fantasy like genshin

As well as the fact that Neuvillette's and Traveler's Hydro orbs are called *Source*water Orbs. As in, they still have the original memories and genetics in themselves because THEY ARE DRAGONS

@@TheJH1015 YOOO SO TRUEEE

same with Zhongli having perfectly shaped pillars and rocks while Azhdaha's are more natural??

Also Nahida is dendro, so like "nature" element. You'd think she'll get more plantbased with her design. But instead she's all "tech" coded. Even the branch she gives us is not looking like normal branch should look, instead it's more like futuristic hologram of a branch. But Traveler... Leaves and shrooms. Nothing like the Dendro Archon.

IM TOTALLY WITH YOU IN THIS FEELINGS

I love her and these videos so much, but by the end of each video, if you asked me what she was talking about five minutes earlier, I couldn't answer...

same, I don't even play it anymore, but the lore is amazing

Also the fact that Venti says that the Tsaritsa has given the harbingers god like authority

@@Error_Redactedmaybe she split her gnosis power between the harbingers?

Oh shit that's what he truly meant

oh my gosh that makes so much more sense now after watching this video

​@@kawansiesquad6659 Which would be interesting because dissecting a gnosis like that, is something not even Ei could do.

he actually breathes it out, basically in place of flame for classical dragons

but he isn't the anemo sovereign from what we have learned. all the other dragons have perished or left the world other than the dendro dragon whereas neuvillette is the descendant of the original hydro sovereign.

@@shantanu7660maybe as an anemo elemental dragon his powers sort of resembles the powers of the anemo sovereign? That’s the only reason I can think of, this would also apply to azdaha in that as a geo elemental dragon his powers would also closely resemble the geo sovereign. Cause the bathysmal vishaps in enkanomiya have a breath attack that sort of resembles neuvillettes charged attack just purple and white for cryo and electro instead of blue for hydro

@@shantanu7660 where is this said?

@shantanu7660 it hasn't been mentioned anywhere that Dvalin isn't the Anemo sovereign. Stop spreading misinformation. Infact Dvalin is called the Ernstwhile King of the Skies which very much points that he indeed is the Anemo Sovereign/anemo sovereign reincarnated. Neuvillette himself says this that we have met many of the sovereigns already.

Yep, they’re basically taking control of what makes Teyvat itself work the way it does…

I'd like to believe that Pierro is the Cryo Dragon ❄️

​@@SavedSheepStudioshe is already mentioned by Scara to be a mage from Khaenriah. So, definitely not the cryo dragon

maybe they have the same vision as khaenriah? to bring back the dragons idk, the tsaritsa has had enough after the calamity and wants to return the world into the original world

Maybe the Tsaritsa wants to finish what Deshret started?

It should ALSO be noted that the traveler does not have an innate adaptability to worlds they visit. It is paimon that first brought them to an anemo statue and taught them how to use anemo powers. All their descriptions have "Paimon and traveler observed __ and learned __", not to mention the vague draconic shape paimon's crown has. It really makes it seem like the traveler fished out the king of dragons loll

People say traveler kit is lesser version of archon,but it resembles dragon kit more.see neuvilitle kit and traveller kit

@@universal-1903 that’s what I was saying… the reason why their kit resembles a dragon sovereign is because they learned their power from observing the world. We know that the original rulers of the world are the dragon sovereigns so it makes sense that that’s where the similarities come from

​@@gingerroot420 the traveller's ability to mimic the dragon sovereign's element authority, but a weaker version is akin to a divine key, key of Blankness. The key of Blankness is a battlesuit that can mimic the herrscher authority, but weaker version based on the herrscher core inserted.

That’s a common thing however. I saw it in a book as well where the protagonist’s dead dad told her that as well

@@emiliereal1520 is it Esperanza rising?

@@sindhu7582 yup.

Remember how at the end of fighting Dvalin he catches everyone? Venti and Dvalin have a small chat before he drops everyone bat at Mondstadt. Venti, poses similar to his "Statue of the Seven" pose with both of his palms upward at the base of his chest. In his palms forms an orb (pearl?) of pure Anemo energy that is then absorbed by Dvalin. "Is this the power of the God of Anemo?" -Dvalin It makes me wonder if in that moment Venti extracted some/all of the gnosis power. Why? Soon after Signora attacks Venti and steals the Gnosis quite easily and seems very unimpressed with its (the gnosis) power. And seeing as Venti seems to have had the gnosis for nearly as long as he's been a god it makes sense why he seems so very weak now.

@@user-biscut exactly, that solves the mystery why Venti never glows!

I truly feel like Mondstadt and Venti are gonna have a huge impact on the story at the end…from his statue saying Gates to Celestia, to how mysterious Venti truly is…I just know he’s gonna play a huge part in the end

Xbalanque moment

I hope they are the Pyro Sovereign, if not I hope we get to see the Pyro Sovereign atleast

where is this quote from?

@@ajilpappachan In Neuvillette's introduction on Genshin media.

@@Jubiliana ohhh thank you

The first International man before Childe 🤣🤣

@@qanitamahrani9139the first Mr. WorldWide

Scarlet King 🫶

​@@qanitamahrani9139 the og mr worldwide 😂

The Guardian of Apep's Oasis also.

and the double-helix is literally DNA. so Visions are living beings?!

also, this description involves Celestia, there's one helix shaped ladder going down in the Abyss, and one going up in Celestia (or vice versa because even though we're supposed to go down in the Abyss, the floors somehow go up from 1-12, and the ladders inside also go up...) if you combine them, you get a double helix which is already said to be the DNA pattern that is seen in Apep's splash art and Neuvillette's skill, so it's somehow connected with dragons how? and why? no idea

@@AnnieBunnySan Not living beings, but akin to "external organs" as the video described. They are part of the individual and not just stolen power like the Gnoses

​@@AnnieBunnySan are visions actually external dna??

who is k k?

@@zerosugarsnappletea based on other games and scrapped early game designs, a Kaslana (Kiana/Kate/Kevin perhaps)

This dragon is never beating the otter allegations

Itto also gave his Vision up willingly, after losing a fight against Kujou Sara, if I remember correctly.

Yeah... and also, a mistery thing is sealed in Inazuma. This is said in the mission with Kuki's sister

​​@@clover.8147wait what mission? Kuki have a sister?, anyway its always confuses me tho how inazuma doesnt even have a little hint about electro dragon

​@@sunglassfrog89Yeah, Shinobu does have a sister who's called Miyuki who at present is currently a shrine maiden

​@@clover.8147i forgot about this mission, can you tell me more?

I don't know any of this either, got any lore? @@clover.8147

It is possible he is archon he his voice lines about other archons he need juge theme all like trailer say god of justice seeks to juge all other gods.😂😂

@@F80armitgod369 I feel like if they don't end up making focalors grow into a good archon it may be leading to making Neuvi the new archon.

​​@@F80armitgod369whats up with the delulu , furina leaks have fontaine in her burst, can walk on water , her profile have Gnosis Hydro, her constellation is herself , what more u ask to believe that shes the archon , probably Egeria had all this oratrice, furina plan to save Fontaine , Neuvillette was born when then died , she told him what to do and he is doing it , hes listening to the orders of the old Archon

@@F80armitgod369 he says he’s going to judge them because celestia + the archons stole the power of the vishaps/dragons and Neuvillette is the hydro dragon sovereign

@@AbzuLifeweaver you do realize that in our car needs to be a God plus him being a archon is pretty much an insult to him, and what he believes he is a dragon after all

NOW THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

Yes, but Zhongli's is square. Not sure exactly what that could mean

@@kaitlyncall5995Also Zongli is part dragon

I thinks its the gnosis. Because Phanes made the Archons war a little time after his victory over the Seven dragon and the second who came. seven gnoses = seven dragons. And basically each archons/ Gods don't need them to use elemental powers so...

Venti gave Anemo orb to Dvalin, did he give the power that belongs to the previous Anemo Dragon back to Dvalin? Is that why his hair never glow in Story Quest?

W/ a cane

That doesn't mean he will lose his hydro sovereignty. Eventually all sovereigns are destined to be reborn someday.

​@@user-biscutWelt Yang moment

​@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Neuvillette is similar to Danheng to some extent, as both are dragon species which reincarnate under the same essence, but different individuals and experiences. Their latest rebirths are tempted by outside factors, resulting in not being the same as their original selves.

Furina got a lot to live up to considering they did that to Neuvi 😂😂😂

@@nhaan4178 oh just you wait! She’s actually pretty good! Also don’t talk down about the Queen...Furina

@@nhaan4178also this comment is unnecessary! You don’t want me to spoil stuff for you right cause I follow the leaks

Hai. "the map is not the territory, the file is not the man" and the chess piece is not their power.

If it were no big deal, then why do the harbingers want them? And also, why can’t Morax make mora without his gnosis?

@@maiafay I thought they wanted them to do something with celestia. I don't know. 😐 I also didn't know morax couldn't make mora without his gnosis. I just assumed he sucked with money.

That's suppose to be their seat in Cerlestia but somehow they don't need it xD

​@@maiafayI don't think it is ever stated that Morax can't make Mora anymore? Zhongli only said that he stopped making mora, because he wants to abide by humam rules, and you know how serious he is regarding rules and order. You might argue about that he says creating Mora requires the "power of the Geo archon." Yes, he did say that, but he is not the Geo archon anymore, so why should he create Mora? Rules are rules, and they are absolute, to him anyway.

and it didn't do that for Zhongli, so it must have been Dvalin

Kaenri'ah isn't in Abyss. And humans were created by Phanes so he created Kaenri'an. Those who resist the curse where those who stayed into Kaenri'ah when the curse occured. In a world quest, some Kaenti'an tried to flee the nation but turned into hillichurls immediatly they put a foot outside Kaenri'ah. Also another thing happened and Sorush (or another paris) said that Dainsleif said to them that what happened during the Cataclysm is freezing his transformation into hillichurl.

Vishap people have slanted pupils, Khaenri'ah people have star-shaped pupils...

If that's her plan, it's a pretty bad one, considering the dragons failed twice (counting when they tried with the forbidden knowledge) when they did have it. Want them to back for round three? 😂 No, but rly. Giving the authority back won't stop Celestia. Combing them however... that might work.

That would assume that the fatui also doesnt know about neuvilette being the hydro dragon, otherwise, they would try to communicate with him and make him join them in their quest. But they arent trying that, therefore a they dont know about neuvilette identity, which would make them stupid, since the traveler figured it out within like 10 interactions with him. Or b, thats not the plan

@@lahie16unless her favorite saying is third times the charm and takes it literally in this case

Also, uh, there's a chance most of the current Dragons aren't really that fond of humans- Apep and Azhdaha certainly aren't, and we don't really know about the rest but there's a chance they also might not like humans, so in the chance that they do succeed, then you kinda just replace one tyranical group of gods with another tyranical group of gods-

​@radiantbunny Apep did show it, but Azhdaha had no animosity towards humans. In fact, Azhdaha loved humans and wished to live in harmony with them, for why would he hate the beings his friend dearly loves? It was only after eroding and losing his memories that Azhdaha developed animosity toward humans because humans were the reason behind his erosion.

I think that the dragons and human search for abyssal energy ended up picking the atention from something from outside of Teyvat, this time, a true alien. Maybe that's why the sky is breaking slowly.

Can't wait to see how it all converge at the end of the AQ and what the Interlude would bring

Yeah.... is the electro dragon okay?

@@clover.8147 didnt raiden/ei kill it?

​@@rubellite4480no that was orobus or whatever his name was, he was a serpent not a dragon

Imagine ei is actually the electro dragon under Celestia influence 🤣

@@glitch-moonstone13 orobashi, ouroboros is different

Every time you return to the Ordo with Ann/Seymour/Caterpillar, the camera pans up to the clock and the minute hand moves, so yes.

This is what I figured, too. I thought the gnosis was just some container Celestia created to house the extracted dragon authority they stole. I guess we'll know for sure when we see Neuvillette regain his powers. Even so, I really like this theory. It does tie together a lot of mysterious things like what happened with Venessa (I always thought it was strange she never made an appearance after ascending. But then again, Venti didn't seem all that distraught about her going even though we know he doesn't like it there). But the stuff about the dragons and the peals is really fun idea. Really curious to see how things will go is 4.2

A good day for us... as Ashikai collapses in mental fatigue. Lets send her more coffee.

Dvalin isn't a sovereign because he's to young for that. Just Like Azdaha they aren't dragons sovereigns but mere elemental beings

@@mabilleaudrey2154 I said "reincarnation of a sovereign", the theory most people have is that Dvalin is the reincarnation of the anemo dragon sovereign, just like Neuvalette is the reincarnation of the hydro dragon sovereign but my theory is that Dvalin isn't the reincarnation of a sovereign but an ordinary person who achieved dragonhood

Another thing about Dvalin is that Venti gives him some kind of power/authority at the end of the mondstadt quest. Venti being sus as usual ig

@@dhyan73 at the end you mean after we defeated Dvalin or after La Signora took the gnosis? Because he can’t give authority to anyone if the gnosis is already gone 😂

@@mabilleaudrey2154 I mean right after we defeat dvalin, and our whole crew is rescued by dvalin. Venti says something about freedom and then gives dvalin some kind of power. We see it in the form of an anemo or entering dvalin's body

Would also explain them being considered Prince/Princess

my currenty theory is that Gold either created the twins or somehow summoned them into this world. Afterwards they got talked into the idea that they where world traveler and cohersted in helping Kheanria.

Perhaps that's why Dottore decided to not f--k around and find out, a Dragon Sovereign coming back to power would probably pose a bigger problem to the Fatui's plans than losing out on all his body doubles in the long term.

​​@@brandonpierce2539it would be potential world -ending scenario. Apep would then go on rampage, slaughtering all the gods, hence returning elemental authorities... And Celestia seems "asleep" 😅😂 yeah, if Fatui know that, it makes perfect sense why Dottore was -ah, okay, sure' 😂😂

Thats probs why it might awaken the heavenly principles, the dragon bekng back with full power could make em go "oh shit"

@@thatminer7174 yeah, especially now that primordial one seems to be dead or as good as dead. Probably both he snd second who came killed each other, and only shades remained.. but, just my theory's xd

I have to wonder then. If Neuvillette gets his power back from Furina, or whoever is the real Hydro Archon, would that not alert the heavenly principles in the same way? Neuvillette is the reincarnation of the Hydro Dragon, so if destroying the Dendro Gnosis gives Apep would have gotten her power back, and thus awakens Celestia, it stands to reason that giving a reincarnation of the hydro sovereign their power back would also alert the Heavenly principles. On the other hand, from what we know, Celestia didn't pitch a fit when Ei put the Gnosis in Scaramouche. So either it's because Scara wasn't a Sovereign or a reincarnation of one, the Gnosis wasn't destroyed, or the fact that it wasn't within Scara himself for long, before Ei took it out. Even in the case of his time as Shouki No Kami, the Gnosis wasn't within Scaramouche, but inside of the mech that he was connected to, but for one reason or another, Celestia seemed okay with Scara possessing the Gnosis. So it sounds to me like Celestia doesn't care so much about whether or not the Gnoses get moved around from one owner to another, as long as they remain intact. If, when Neuvillette regains his power or "Authority", as he says will happen soon, Celestia suddenly stops that from happening, then that would tell me that Celestia views destroying a Gnosis and physically returning it (or it's contents) to the sovereign/the sovereign's current form or incarnation as the same thing. The only other issue I have isn't even as much related to Neuvillette. When Nahida suggested destroying the Gnosis and reawakening the Heavenly principles, which one was she referring to? She was at the time in possession of both Dendro and Electro iirc, so was she threatening to destroy the Dendro Gnosis with the Electro Gnosis, and thus possibly return Apep's power to her, or the other way around? OR, was she threatening to destroy both at the same time? Perhaps the Gnoses function similar to matter and anti matter. On their own, they're stable, but try to combine them or even bring them into contact, and they annihilate each other. If combining the Dendro and Electro Gnoses would have destroyed both, who would the power within the electro Gnosis have gone back to, since Apep would've gotten her Dendro power back, but right now, we don't have any concrete knowledge on where the Electro Dragon is, regardless of whether or not it's the original one, or a reincarnation like Neuvillette.

But it's clearly said in before sun and moon that PO created humanity, they were not born of dragons,

@@mitab1 That's most likely not true, some things were exaggerated like how the PO had an egg and shaped the world and the universe. Humans most likely existed before the PO came

After the latest AQ, the theory that what Signora took was a fake Gnosis holds a lot more water. In the cutscene before that, we see Venti giving power to Dvalin and Dvalin asking: "Is this the power of the Anemo Archon?", which can now be interpreted as "Is this Archon's Authority?" Dvalin even resonated with it and started glowing, like it was always his power, which if this is true, has always been the case. While it is not explicitly confirmed that Dvalin is the Dragon Sovereign, Neuvillette told us that we've already met some of the other Dragon Sovereigns - Considering Apep and Azdaha encounters were kind of a secret that the Traveler shares with other Archons, us beating Dvalin is what made us (the travele) renowned across Teyvat, which makes Dvalin 99% the Sovereign that Neuvi was referencing. This would also make for a good plot device that would prevent Tsaritsa from achieving whatever her goal id before we arrive to Snezhnaya (assuming she aquires both the Hydro and Pyro Gnoses by the end of the Natlan's chapter), and it would allow for Venti's 2nd story quest to happen.

@@vukkicos5688 I also waiting for his 2nd story quest

​@@vukkicos5688Tsaritsa's goal is to overthrow Celestia.

Because he didn't wanted to be archon but because he was the last one alive in Teyvat he was obliged to take it. If you notice every archons didn't mind to gave them away

Davlin and Azdaha aren't dragons sovereigns. They are too young to be among them. (and weaker)@@vukkicos5688​

I agree, also it is Paimon that allows the traveler to GET those elemental powers in the first place. Either Paimon IS the dragon king [her "crown" does have the shape of a dragon"] or we are missing HUGE chunks of the puzzle.

@@Astrophel24 This has not been confirmed, it is just one of the theories that Albedo had during his study on the Traveler.

@@Truck-kun11 Paimon led the traveler to the anemo statue and instructed them. Take a look at the skill descriptions of the traveler, it always mentions traveler AND paimon. Not to mention a melusine describing Paimon as a rainbow balloon.

@@Astrophel24 Yes, it's a strong theory and one that I can see being true, but until it's confirmed we can't be sure.

The way I interpreted Ashikai's theory is that Allogenes are like Neuvillette (spirits of young dragons reborn), but not actual soveigns. So it's not that dragons are giving human powers, but it's that these humans are also originally dragons and their visions are their pearls from their past lives as dragons that have returned to them. It's almost like the little tokens that Melusines are born with.

my crack theory goes the other way: visions are given to people with a strong will either to keep them from growing to powerful, or to keep the 'radiation' of their will from harming others.

@@annaairahala9462 There's also Keqing's lore where she didn't want her Vision and kept trying to dispose of it without any success. Her ambition and drive to succeed on her own was so strong that she saw the Vision as unnecessary, but she couldn't get rid of it and eventually gave up. Seems odd that she'd be FORCED to accept having something she doesn't even want.

@@Uryvichkyeah a LOT of the playable genshin characters who have visions seemed to not care about them and even tried to dispose them.. the visions really have a supressing effect dont they

@@annaairahala9462 I wouldn't put too much stock into that. Narzissenkreuz themself was on a project that was leading to bastardizing humanity from how I seen it. That whole project from the excerpts showed that they wanted actively remove the Will of all, and in turn, let their souls be a gathering for virtually whatever design they felt like. It feels like a big red flag to me. Kinda like how with the AQ in Fontaine where we discovered a mass of Fontantians wound up becoming a hive mind. How they can 'hear' a particular person but they're all just an amalgamation. To how God-King Remus's plan of letting humanity 'transcend' via their Golden Ichor/Primordial sea creation, which inevitably just wound up their trapping their souls to amalgamated damnation. (Check the Sacred Dewdrop weapon mats on that.) Visions from what we've seen tempers the individuality and their grasp on their inner divinity. Innate resistance against many maladies from taking you over like the Withering as one example. (Mainly seen in gameplay.) To how through the power of human will that managed to reach their innate divine level, they actually shattered Ei's 'Vision Hunt' control during her boss battle in the Inazuma AQ. (That restricted elemental power sans the Traveler). They succeeded in aligning in a way where there's no overmind in control, but aligned wills from of people set to tackle that XYZ cause. I've always seen Visions as a symbol of human will that in Teyvat's case, come with some unique benefits so external forces can't easily corrupt/assimilate the individual.

well sybilla was a she in the original roman myth, she was the author of the sibylline books of prophecy that the romans consulted in times of danger. seeing that in genshin remus survived instead of romulus to form the remurian empire rather than the roman, its just the same roman myth but its remus in place of romulus. so sybilla HAS to be a she, as per roman myth.

@@phantom8473 yup, exactly

@@phantom8473 OH THATS WHY I THOUGHT I'VE HEARD OF THIS NAME. It was from a book "The Last Man" and it was in the early pages describing about Sybil and her prophecies

I wouldn’t say the running theme is gendered as we see different combinations of it across all important historical moments in Teyvat, is just that the female deities tend to be more on the rational and compassionate side while their male colleagues are like… well, picture young Zhongli.

I saw a theory saying that the golden bee was in fact B from the Hexenzirkel, aka Mona's master Barbeloth. I think it makes a lot of sense - the history of the decline and fall of Remuria mentions that Remus' power was music-related and could be what formed the basis of many modern magical techniques such as Mona and B's hydromancy. There are also symbols on Rene's apparatus that match those on Mona's astrolabe in her idle. (source: ShadowX5452 Gaming's recent 4.1 theory video)

All Gods were able to have a gnosis, but for that they must be the only one who remain in this region. Venti was the last one God elligible to have the anemo gnosis. Morax killed all the others Liyue Gods. Ei received it from her dying sister. And the God of flower decided with King Deshret that it will be Rhukkadevata who will be the dendro archon :)

While they might accept their power back, none of them other than Neuvillette appear to have any affection for humanity and would probably seek to destroy them after overthrowing Celestia. Apep can barely stand to be civil with Nahida for more than a couple seconds. Neuvillette has needed centuries to grow close to the people and his story quest shows that it was hard for him early on. I think that was the plan to begin with based on past(?) Furina's line at the end of the quest: She granted him power over Fontaine so that he would learn to understand humanity and care for them, and then he would be "placed in judgment over all" with the return of his authority, except he wouldn't immediately use it to purge Fontaine of humans because he would like them now. Now it's possible the Tsaritsa has just gone beyond the point of caring and is fine with everybody dying if Celestia is destroyed, but I feel like Pierro probably has a more complicated plan than that. Possibly they want to BARGAIN with the sovereigns, which is why the Tsaritsa didn't order the Harbingers to just crack the gnoses the instant they got them (as they can be stolen and put to other uses, like the Electro one was for the Sumeru arc); if she holds their authority and is willing to yield it in exchange for sparing her people, then maybe. But I don't think the sovereigns other than Neuvillette have any reason to keep their promises; once Neuv gets his authority back, the only thing sparing the people of Fontaine is his sense of affection for and responsibility toward them. Apep might be willing to agree to the Fatui's demands in order to get her authority back, but what's guaranteeing she'll actually keep her promise once she has her power restored?

@Uryvichk What I was thinking is that she's already accepted the fact that the Sovereigns will kill everyone except for the people of Khaenri'ah, because she feels guilty, assuming that she(The Tsaritsa) found out that they are aliens who took over everything

Ei started isolating itself way before she started isolating inazuma

​@@idk-sy3iuYes, but it was only when the idea that Visions were a bad thing was put into her head that Electro Visions stopped appearing.

what if the change in the affairs of Inazuma actually shifted something in the distribution of Electro energy? We know Ei was a red herring... what if the Electro dragon had begun incarnating at the time of the vision hunt decree? I think it lines up with the one time we know a Vision stopped functioning: Childe in Fontaine. Whatever it is, its probably related with dragons because we know nothing funky was up with the Electro Gnosis at the time.

@@pseud0ku630 It would be quite a coincidence, but it is possible. What made me doubt this is that we had zero mention of Dragons in Inazuma, and I feel like we would have at least one reference to them if they were involved at all.

@@Truck-kun11 See I know that, but this is Hoyo, they like to drip-feed. They wanted us to focus on the nature of visions as the crystallization of ambition during the Inazuma chapter. We barely knew anything about the sovereigns, I'm pretty sure we first knew of them when Enkanomiya dropped My thinking is process of elimination: If it isnt up to Celestia to distribute visions because they don't even like allogenes, and it wasn't up to Ei because she had no idea what was happening, it could only have been the Gnosis or the Sovereign.

I have not seen it discussed much but I am also confused by all the magic beings and animal people bloodlines and whether they may each also be a recent thing (after the second who came), not part of the original primordial civilization. Enkanomiya had Orobashi's familiars that are clearly created from him as a god from the outside but is that about the extent of magical beings in Enkanomiya? And what is really the origin of all these magical beings and gods? Ei and Makoto are Yokai themselves and did not create the yokai. Tighnarians are a thing that existed when the godeess of flowers arived. And why are these beings so regionally different? Could the gods and magical beings emergence unique to the 7 original dragon nations all be some kind of sign of the Primordial one's world unifying properties dwindling? Or are they all 'substitute seelies' when the divine authority was mostly used up by nail-hurling and the Seelie race extinction? Or what you describe: a new ruler had new ideas?

Furina would kinda need to die for that to happen, since Neuvillette mentioned 'The Archon would need to vanish', plus such a thing would likely awaken Celestia, which uh, nobody wants yet. So, I think it's fair to say that, at least in resolution of the Fontaine's Archon quest, Neuvillette won't be receiving his authority back. (Ascension lines should honestly be treated as sub-cannon anyway, since a lot them really don't make sense in the context of greater world building.)

Uh don't forget Fatuis harbingers are always here to stole or take the gnosis so Neuvi won't recover his full powers at the of the archon quest dear

Archons don't need to die to give their gnosis.@@radiantbunny

@@mabilleaudrey2154 Exactly, but the Hydro Archon needs to 'vanish' for the power to be returned. (Check the wiki if you don't believe me on that). I think the community might've jumped a line when they immediately assumed the 'Usurper power = Gnosis' thing. Lots of other things really don't line up either.

Except if Furina isn't a God she can't vanish after giving the gnosis away. Or she IS the gnosis but Arleccino confirmed Furina wasn't or don't have any gnosis on her.@@radiantbunny

Another thing: Since the subject of world rules was touched on in this video, Honkai Impact 3rd recently released a series of chapters that also explored this. In this particular case, two bubble worlds were being anchored together by a rule, and in order to change or bypass the rule, you needed to obtain the *authority* to do so.

@@GeneSysFNLT Yeah all of this kind of points to Teyvat being a bubble universe that's fallen into the sea of quanta, abyssal energy being the sea of quanta possibly? It would make sense why there's so many insane laws to keep teyvat alive but that doesn't explain what dragons are doing in the sea of quanta and how was Nibelung able to leave it and just go somewhere else? ughh this is all so confusing

@@vlorggy Yeah, I think that finding out more about what the connection between dragons and Quanta/Abyss is, is going to take some patience as the patch updates reveal more lore. The interesting thing is that HSR, being the game closer to HI3rd than it is to Genshin, has introduced to us world/species-creating dragons. It seems to me that HYV is taking inspiration from Hugh Everett's "Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics" thesis, and this is how they're tying their games together.

And a Dainsleif interlude again!

Dvalin and Azdaha are too young elemental being to be sovereigns. And you seems to forgot that Fatuis are always here to take the gnosis at the end so don't dream to much of Neuvi regaining his full authority :)

@@mabilleaudrey2154 No I meant it like Gnosis and Authority are 2 different things. It was just a theory I came up with to explain the lack of glow in Venti, Zhongli and now Furina's eyes. Nahida and Raiden don't have gnosis either but still their eyes glow.

I think she knows that but the idea is supposed be the element dragons have similar abilities to eachother or a lesson version of their sovereigns abilities

i think she knows and its just a speculation bcs we have no other anemo dragon candidate besides dvalin. it is never confirmed but never denied either. and since sovereigns have a reincarnation process, just like neuvi, dvalin can be a reincarnation of the og anemo sovereign so imo age doesnt rly matter here

Fatuis plan is to restore the ancient Gods powers according to Pierro so yes it will be that

In honkai impact there's an energy source called honkai energy which is now confirmed to be imaginary energy and it carries the same symbol and color of light energy in genshin so we can pretty much say it's the same thing. But this imaginary energy(light) can manifest into anything the wielder so chooses, really powerful beings that can hold a bunch of imaginary energy(light) can do things that are extremely god like, we can see some of it in star rail with Aeons holding their own authority and paths and doing really godlike shit with their powers(imaginary energy/light). But the PO apparently shaped the world and made it into three, I don't believe that, I believe the PO only made the Light realm which is just a pocket dimension that's full of light energy(imaginary energy) and it would make sense, the sky being fake, the host of consciousness, irminsul etc.