Haha guys I just went through this case 430 spun rod. Just saw “thats future Kevin’s problem” with the pump timing. That pump is an absolute disaster to time I fought it for a month, I have some information if you need it, apparently it is well kept secrets it was hell for me.
Hi Rich.....and Kevin. It's always a treat to see Kevin, not to mention the stereo Rich-Kevin laughter. Great looking floor! A three sinks with hot, running water, no waiting!
Don’t trust the plastic timing pin. When you’re reassembling the block, Measure #1 protrusion and then set the pin. The injection pump has no timing reference marks whatsoever. But a pump shop can reset that easily enough. When the 430 first came out, most had to be lifted off the trailer due to incorrect pump timing. We had to reset all the pins and re time all the pumps.
Just a suggestion from someone that fixes diesel injection pumps and injectors. Have the pump and injectors looked at by a shop to make sure everything is good to go when you reassemble the engine.
Kevin cleans equipment, the way I was taught back in '75.👍👍 Wish more people would, makes their life a whole lot easier, but they seem to have lost that memo. Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.
You can use the piston pin, two rods and a feeler gauge to check the rods. Normally they twist also when they bend, so you stick them both on one pin and check the big end for equal gaps.. by turning them 180° and comparing different ones to each other you can get an idea which one is bad if there is one... Just wondering, being the outer one, away from the timing, it can also be a twisted crank... Unlikely, but if they already saved on cam bearings you never know, maybe it's made of old coke cans 😂
@@SegoManit also sucks for quality work when it’s a dimly lit shop. I found that out then I got a wheel refinished and you couldn’t see the imperfections until it was in the sun or with a bright light… 2hours of driving wasted for that.
We've got one apart in our shop right now that the crank snapped in half. It was still running good but the oscillation of the end of the crank caused snapped pump shafts which is how the issue was found. Cranks are somewhat hard to come by for those motors.
If that engine was in a case 450 with side by side pumps, driven by a splitter box thats the cause of the crank failure. Case updated the pump to an inline style and sold a kit to convert them. Did a few during my dealer days.
Nice to see part 2 materialise, nice to see Rich doing his best keep Kevin's new floor clean and tidy ! 😀 Content like this entertaining and educational ...
From one farmer who was a farm equipment tech in a previous life just put an engine oil pump in it. No point in spending the money on a rebuild and not changing the oil pump and having the oil oil pump fail causing the new engine to grenade
Clicking thumbs up even before video starts!!! :D This is a perrfect mix of mechanics and humour, the perfect watch for the evening! Kudos, guys, you rule! :)
Wild. I recently requested this engine. Not because I want one but because that's what's in the 400 series Case skids. This should be the non turbo Iveco 445 in a 430. I'm curious about longevity with proper maintenance. I did recently see one with a hole in the block, but it had 9700 hours. So with the timing cover combo on this engine. A 4B conversion is an unlikely backup plan.
15/17/19mm are for M8/M10/M12 nuts/bolt heads so I think that's why they skip them in most sets. As for the assembler putting the hose clamp on they are probably doing what they are told by the engineer who designed it in CAD and has no concept of what a spanner is or how to use one.
I've got a 430 that needs engine work too, is it still more economical for you to rebuild the engine vs getting a reman? I assume if the block is touched then reman would be the way to go. I think ours will need bored and oversized pistons. It was ran without coolant for an hour or so. Like your videos, thanks for showing your work.
Reman short block is $8005, full reman engine is $13505. The big sell on reman is you get a 24-month warranty on the parts if you install it or parts and labor if the dealer installs it. Really depends on what way you want to go
I built a dozen engines and never had a crank or rods checked by machine shop except one time with brand new rods that bent later that year. Checking myself I got 20k miles on my motor in under 1 year.
Are you 100% sure the gasket between 1 and 2 isn't gone? That would make sense, spun bearing on 1 blowing out the gasket to 2 dropping the compression on 2?
The one that is taller probably has a spun bearing... If the bearings overlap it can raise your piston. If it was knocking, hopefully it didn't bend the rod... But when you pull that bottom end, I bet there's a spun bearing on the tall piston.
29:08 This is why a compression test is only half the diag. Cylinder leakage test before disassembling the engine would have told you where the compression was going.
Thats what you get from an italian engine :) Nah jokes aside, these run in so many applications here in europe but I guess theres no truck/ bus/ van thing with the same engine in North America, makes spare engines and parts hard to some by...
Could be a bent rod but most likely it’s because the heat from the bearing is heating up the bearings in number one, allowing number one to reach compression, and the heat from number one has over heated the rings on number two. Over burning the number two rings. IMO
I guarantee that an engineer specified that the assembler to put that hose clamp in that way and didn't even think about it being repaired. As far as the company's concerned, you are supposed to scrap it when it stops working and buy a whole new machine every single time, so they don't care, at least at the CEO and marketing level, so they don't give the engineers or assemblers time or energy time to consider such things as repairs or rebuilds. The CEO and marketing really doesn't understand their customer base will keep a piece of equipment running for 150 years until the parts for it stop being made as long as it does the job fast enough and cost them a low enough price to run. Run it till it can't be repaired or rebuilt is what farmers and small construction contractors do with a lot of their equipment unless they are running factory sized farms and then it is still a cost/benefit calculation for every major repair/replacement event.
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