I love my CDJ3000 from the day one. I can honestly see why Pioneer is the number one choice for so many DJ's around the world. Pricewise its another story but then again let's face it; this is the product which is aimed at big venues, festivals etc. it's not really meant to be used in the bedroom... Personally as long as I can afford it this will always be my number one choice.
Yes your on point with this bro.. CDJs are not designed to be software controllers.. People need to understand that CDJs are real stand alone media Players designed for professional venue use by professional DJs without need for computers or software. The extra processing is for the higher sound quality on big Festival like sound systems, which a regular tiny controller with large cue buttons is not designed for. And most paid DJs need amazing sounding equipment to meet obligations of high paying customers. Pri yon Joni has an excellent explanation of the intent, use, and design of the CDJ3000... Controllers rely on the computer to operate, although they do the job quite well, they will never have the sound quality of a professional stand-alone DJ system from a pricing standpoint.
The people want Pioneer to update features and be in front of every one. Since they don't and also their price point is huge every one seems to be gravitating to Denon.
Tbh Pioneer doesn't have a lot of headroom to experiment in their flagship line up . The majority of people want familiarity shifting from some home controller to a club cdj setup and not get overwhelmed with features . I would atleast need some time to get used to denon's deck and software before i can start which is not the case with denon. If you belong to the bunch of guys who only wants features then denon's are the way to go . But if you want something more reliable and familiar pioneer is the only option . I definitely won't feel as confident with denon's at the club .
@@arkaprabhabanerjee1639 I switched from Pioneer to Denon a few months ago. Kinda like yourself I thought it would take some time to get the grips with the Denon so decided to make the change during Covid. I reckon after only a few hours I was playing on them like I was using them years. Came really quickly, so for anyone thinking of changing I wouldn't let that stand in your way. If you have been playing on Pioneers for a few years you will have no problems. By the end of day one you will know 90-95% of it's functions and will be mixing to the same level you would on pioneers. As for the software it wasn't great when I started using it but after a few updates it's much better and with the new beta versions we finally got elastic beat grids. My only real gripe with the SC5000 is the tension on the platters. That did take some getting used to. I have had to change the way I do my spin-backs because I can't get a light enough tension. Having said that I have got used to it now so it's not the issue it was in the beginning.
Nothing the matter with a CDJ1000 mk3’s Pick em up for peanuts and they have the added benefit that they predate sync. Get this. You....yes you. Can actually do the beatmatching bit. The actual DJ’ing bit Yes you. Crazy I know. And check this out also. #looks left looks right shadily# You Yes you.....can create a loop. You have to be on point but you can create the loop. This is no time to be hitting the sync button and pulling love heart hand signs young pups.......pick yourselves up a bargain Disclaimer.....please be aware you will be required to be able to beatmatch using only your ears and your skills..... Pioneer holds no responsibility if you sound like a horse falling down a flight of stairs.
Well keep dreaming haha but there is some truth about it. I just don't get why it is more expensive than the nexus 2 while not having a CD player!! I actually know a lot of djs who enjoy playing with cds
@Star Lord But they really seem to try and get the heat. I can see why they removed CDs and not gone radical with two decks and WiFi, but two ports total and the lower amperage on the charging port are something that would've been so cheap to do and yet they didn't go for it. It doesn't even support SD cards over 32GB! It feels like they wanted to make this a sidegrade. And with clubs going extinct or at least very much lacking money at the moment, this only leaves streaming festivals and rich-ish pro DJs as the potential buyer base. Pushing such a lackluster product under these conditions doesn't seem like the right call to me.
I love the intro "let's face it.....you're not gonna buy this!", TRUE :))) I started my career using Denon gear and I don't regret any second, I refuse to play on the ancient CDJs at any festival, club etc. and I will continue refusing the "new ones" because they are already old, even my Denon Prime GO can do more than the CDJ's When the technical stuff of events will say that they can't provide Denon players I will say simply provide me with a XLR or RCA connection to the main mixer and an empty desk to install my Denon Prime 4.
If you really think Pioneer dj gear is ancient because it doesn't do what your beloved Denon Prime GO does then you need your head checked, I use both, Denon and Pioneer DJ, I prefer Pioneer DJ due to how good their jogwheels are and how awesome rekordbox is. If I'm out djing I play on both depending on what's available, you sound like a bit of a diva to me tbh.
@@echno4727 I am using my functions and my ears in a mix not my beauty, if you have this topless diva stereotype in mind please don't include me in it and learn to be respectful! Beside of jogs which are obviously bigger, better for DJs that like to scratch and that you have eight cue points (atention only cue points!) in the same uncomfortable position please tell me what i can do better on a Pioneer cdj 3000 than my beloved Denon Prime GO ? I have WIFI (Pioneer NO) I have online streaming (Pioneer NO) and here with the last updates i don't even need my usb drive because i can use my DropBox to play music, or Tidal, or Beatport, or Soundcloud I have pads with functions not just cue points, yes only 4/4 switchable because of the dimensions but I can use them for Hot Cues, Loops, Roll etc. (Pioneer NO) I have a battery (Pioneer NO) and I can play anywhere at any time, also with the new technology for WIFI sound without latency I can play from the croud if I want I have a multi touch screen display (Pioneer NO) I can analize tracks on it (Pioneer NO) I can create playlist on my USB drive or directly on my streaming services i don't need a computer for that (Pioneer NO) I can create creates I can edit my playlists online (Pioneer NO) What the hell I have also a mixer and effects and a EQ, faders. The list goes on, and all that in a tiny beloved Denon Prime Go
@@echno4727 do you hear yourself in a echo? You own both? you are out DJing where? in covid times? with the new CDJ3000 already? Man AYA sounds like a professional DJ talking about the future in the first comment and with strong arguments in the second one, you sound like a immature liar and a Pioneer fanatic
@@djaya.official Diva does not imply you're beautiful, nor does it imply you cant dj, I'm just saying that a more versatile dj wouldnt mind playing on Pioneer or Denon. A guy can be a diva, so it's not sexist either, I'm pretty sure you're a decent dj. You assumed that my comment was aimed at you because you're a girl, honestly though some of the best djs in the world are women, I've been djing for over 20 years and I've no hesitation using whatever dj gear is put in front of me, whether its 1210s, Cdjs, etc etc. Literally makes absolutely no difference to me. If there is a small learning curve it's more rewarding. Just my opinion. Most of the features you mentioned in your comment you don't use and realistically at a gig u never will.
@@mr2sw208 Did I say I owned the 3000s? or did you assume? I obviously meant the brand not the model. Ofc I'm not djing through covid, again you're assuming. I was replying to the fact that AYA wrote she wouldn't touch the ancient tech, ie, (pioneer dj) Pioneers equipment is far from ancient, and tbh any dj worth their salt would play on whatever's available. I've been djing for 20 years, through the era of Technic 1210s right through till today, I own 2 1210s, a sl 1200, Denon prime sc6000 x2 and a ddj1000, also an old djm 800 and 600, I know my equipment, and I enjoy each of them for different reasons, so before you assume next time, ask me why I wrote what I wrote first.
If you're using a $2300 CDJ as a controller, it's definitely overpriced. If you want to use it as a stand-alone player, it's worth the price, but if you want an inexpensive controller, the market is full of them.
@@ccricers yup there's no justification for the price. Even if the price was for 2 of them. Lol They didn't even consider the pandemic and denon's offerings...Very arrogant of them. SMH.
-no dual layer functionality -no performance pads -no internal track analysis -no cross-platform support -no inbuilt HD/SSD option -no internal WiFi -no loop encoder -no multitouch touch screen -no reserve power (power failure) -small hot cues buttons located in horrible position -only one USB port and it got downgraded to 1.0A -no SDXC support (
Tbh Pioneer doesn't have a lot of headroom to experiment in their flagship line up . The majority of people want familiarity shifting from some home controller to a club cdj setup and not get overwhelmed with features . I would atleast need some time to get used to denon's deck and software before i can start which is not the case with pioneer. If you belong to the bunch of guys who only wants features then denon's are the way to go . But if you want something more reliable and familiar pioneer is the only option . I definitely won't feel as confident with denon's at the club .
Awesome to see your review Carlo! Just a response about the cue point placement. There was extensive research done with 200 artists about the hot cue location. It was found that being away from where they rest their hand, and being closer to where they used to be located from the upper left was preferred. Being above the jog wheel prevents from accidental trigger, and it serves as an extension to the touch display. You have to think, these CDJs will be used side by side in groups of 4 to 6. Unlike a 2 deck controller, the wider you go, the more likely your hand covers over the the lower part of the jog wheel. The reason for Hot Cues instead of performance pads is for a related reason. Once again, they will be using sets of 4 to 6 decks. It is very easy to lose track of what pad mode you are in. On a 2 deck controller or 2 channel mixer, not so much. But 4-6, you run the risk of making a mistake. At a high profile event on stage at a festival with a big artist, it's not exactly something you want to happen. 1 set of hot cues for 1 function keeps you from making these mistakes. For the users who will be using these, hot cues is all they want and need. I don't see an Ultra headliner switching over to hit the slicer.
Nice Response Bro!! Teach them how its done!! lol!!! Besides I like cue points at the top where I can see them clearly instead of at the bottom or similar to how the S11/REV7 mixer is setup (cue points on top of fader and visible)
Made a joke reply to your reply on the Pioneer Channel, but lets put tech aside. As long as you can DJ, and learn the basics, what does new products even matter.. Rock what you got!
Daaaaaammn Carlito. I thought Pioneer paid your bills. Lol. You need to just come to the dark side with us at Denon and promote more of the Prime Units. Keep it 💯
Enis Boniakos I own the XDJ RX2 and have used CDJ NXS2s extensively. The CDJS have a faster loading time for each track. Not by too much though and I certainly wouldn’t say the tracks take “forever” to load. It’s certainly never messed me up and I like to mix quick.
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Club owner product. That's what CDJs are. In this times of Covid the sales on this are going to be abysmal. From a DJ perspective no reason to have this at home unless you want to have the exact same gear as the club... And in this case your club will most likely not have it so don't get too excited with the cue points and fast load. Once you're there, it will be gone.
Plus most clubs _already_ have a working CDJ2000NX2 set-up which every professional DJ is familiar with, so they have no reason to upgrade. I get the need for a club standard because it makes everyone's life easier, but these aren't worth the asking price.
@@SilasTorres9 a CDJ is a standalone audio player, no need for a laptop. A controller 'controls' DJ software on a laptop via MIDI. There's more differences of course but I think this is the biggest.
@@SilasTorres9 I wouldn't consider them controllers per se, but yeah they exist. Those basically have two CDJs built in, albeit with a limited feature-set compared to the real deal (FLAC support is the first thing that comes to mind).
Imo keye furures for my liking 1. Updated sound procesing. This is a very nice future for DJs who use wav/flac/aiff playing at huge venues with top of the line audio set up. The clubbing experience will get even better for the audience. High end D/A converters can cost more than one 3000 player alone, so its nice to see pioneer pay attention to the most important thing, making uncompressed sound better. Remember, the soundprocesing part alone can justife its price point compared to Denons flagship modle.. just saying 2. Changing keye: this is HUGE imo and it was about friggin time. That it took pioneer until 2020 to implement a future theyve already technicly mastered (key changing along with the tempo fader) is beyond me. This needs to be a feature on entry level products as well imo.
Also, its a nice thing thats it expensive as long as the price reflects quality components and durability.. this thing should be able to handle use 50 hrs a week, 365 days a year, for many years + transport. If it turns out to be a durable product $2200 is a very good price imo.
I’m honestly disappointed in this release. I really thought pioneer would attempt to design a motorized platter. Also not vibing have to reach over platter to use cue points. Odd design choice. Who in their right mind would pick the new cdj over Denon SC6000M ?
Club owners and PA companies will pick them over Denon, it's the whole industry standard reliability thing. And as much as I like the Denon, it'll be the Pioneer that you'll be walking up to on festival and club stages. I mean, it's pro gear not bedroom stuff.
I will answer you once and for or all. Pioneer will, never, ever, ever, do motorised patter. I repeat - never ever, ever. Just forget about it. They will never do it.
@@billB101 that WAS the case but is rapidly changing, laid back luke and such...plus even Ministry in England has now made room for controllers and the like. That old attitude of pioneer is the standard is quickly falling away as history. Much in the way that dj's must change to stay current and competitive, so must the companies that make our tools. The old adage about the industry standard isn't going to age well for much longer.
@@wylatron I'm a live sound engineer covering a lot of clubs and festivals in the UK and Europe ( I also DJ on the oldskool scene ) Stages and booths have always been able to accommodate controllers, Serato setups etc but Pioneers are still by far the most requested DJ set-up and installed gear in venues and festivals, I don't see that changing any time soon to be honest.
I finally got to see a cdj3000 in person, it’s pretty amazing in my opinion. I start a DJ residency this week coming up on Thursdays and they have the 2000’s but I have to get in and practice on them. Thank you Carlo for the video!
Hermano! Hace mucho tiempo desde que! The 3000s are quite a beast in person, but I'm still so worried that if I get too far in the zone, I'll end up doing something very wrong with those hot cues haha. Practice is always a good thing!
@@djcarlo siiii it’s been a while, I’ve been busy working on music and spinning at events. Yeah those cue buttons are in a tricky spot hahaha…love all of your content and always seem to find a new video of yours even if it’s one from 2yrs ago! Bendiciones!
I am a huge fan of your channel and I just bought my Numark Mixtrack last day. Hope to learn from your channel and connect with you someday! You're the best
I honestly never really understood why you would buy expensive CDJs as a DJ? I don't think DJs are the target audience for the CDJ 3000, clubs are. You can perfectly prepare your set and practice with a 300 dollar Pioneer DJ controller.
Welcome from Hungary! 🙂 It was a good review and opinion from the new "CDJ". Did you know to the CDJ 500 tutorial video what you put on your video is subtitled in hungarian? 😄
As someone who comes from turntables, the idea that moving platters are a step too far for a lot of DJs seems weird. Im ot one of those vinyl purists, I just bought some SC6000Ms, and DJing on static platters is a skill too. Its just weird that a moving platter is seen as something too radical
I went for the SC5000 and still don't regret it to a tiny bit. You get them for around 1000$, buy two of them (getting 4 layers) and it's still less than ONE single, technologically inferior CDJ-3000. Former Pioneer users, but done with their "club standard" bs. They became lazy and greedy. I opted for progress and innovation. Also the forum and community is muuuch better.
Lol. Of the hundreds of riders of the top DJs in the world that I have to read through at my job as a backline technician for major electronic music festivals, I’ve only ever seen 2. Most of the few (literally under 10 people I bet) touring guys that request denon at this point are being paid sponsorship by denon. They aren’t voluntarily switching from pioneer.
CDJ means Compact DJ. And nowdays, very few people use CDs, so It's understandable that they have not put the CD lector... But nice video anyway... Hope some day I can afford to buy it XD
Stretch Entertainment Man, I been there, and done exactly that... I am coming from Reel to Real, Cassette, 8-Track, DAT and the first Technics Cd players which died a sudden death when Pioneer and Denon cornered the market. Mp3 will kill my Technic 1200s and leave my vinyl collection gathering dust. If you were not around when it started, it is hard to feel what we feel I Don’t feel what you feel, but share your thoughts.
KEREM SAYIN Never said it was “ the enemy” but good you see sense in smelling the vinyl. It is the foundation of the creative deejay. For me, all too easy to be creative with the digital machinery. Having two decks, or three (!) and a mixer, you need to come up with something much more than your average deejay! With respect!
I completely agree… cdj3k gets a ton of pros rooting for em but when one spends some decent time with it, it flaws comes pouring out in no time as I personally learnt too the hard way. Curious what’s your goto controller if not this then 🤔 I’m guessing an analogue kit
Oh man! What happened with your CDJ 3000 experience? And for controllers, well, it depends. The PLX1000s are still amazing, along with the S9. But for a controller, it depends, but the FLX10 or FLX4 are up there
I am a Pioneer guy, through and through. I've had them all. From the 500's to the 2000's, including controllers. That being said, if I had the choice, I would get the Denon SC6000 instead. WAY more for your buck.
To be honest I thought the CDJ sucks because of the cable management, electrical use and the fact that if you want to download new songs to play you need one extra step.
Did you know that Denon DJ's Prime SC6000 has way more options, a better stability, a more sturdy casing, better aftersales, better warranty and a waaahaahaaahaahaaaayyyyyy better jogwheel (especially the SC6000M one, which is motorized) ? And that against a price that's 800 dollar cheaper. I wonder why Pioneer set the retail price so high. As you mentioned, very few DJ's are going to buy it. To be honest, I like the DDJ-SB2's jogwheel better than the CDJ2000. I can't say much about the CDJ2000NXS/2, since I haven't used it in a long time, but the little controller's jogwheels are quite astonishing. I've always liked Denon DJ over Pioneer DJ, not just because of the price, but mainly because of the used elements in their DJ gear. And still lots of people are bashing Denon DJ, being a premium Numark device. Which is not true, since InMusic owns both companies and both still have their véry own production line. Most people bashing Denon DJ have probably never worked with the premium devices anyway. I've got some top notch DJ's in my family (reallife family that is) and they absolutely LOVE Denon DJ's Prime equipment. Some of 'm even got rid of Pioneer DJ's gear, just because Denon DJ handles better in their genres (techno/dutch hardcore).
Denon is cool and price is great but you get what you pay for. The products are buggy and that is why they aren't industry club standard. With pioneer, you also get what you pay for and it is extremely reliable. As far as hot cue button placement, I can agree that they are dangerous, but the reason they are at the top and not the bottom is because many djs like to rest there palm on the bottom when pushing and pulling the track using the side of the platter. I think having them on the side somewhere would have been optimal, but there isn't much room there. Maybe they get rid of some things they don't need anymore, like the loop in and out buttons to make room while making the hot cue buttons smaller so they can fit, but that is tricky. I think for a lot of djs, the placement is ok. Most djs that want to do crazy stuff with the hot cue buttons will have a different piece of hardware for that. but that's just my 2 cents.
OK I might not agree with you on that one. A company I work for brought 4 CDJs 2000 Nexus 2s. After one month they were showing problems. Link cable input was shit and would cut out if slightly moved. Cue button was the second thing to go. And the worst thing. New Years just gone. The fucking thing stopped playing in the middle of the gig. Disaster. 2 players had issues early on. That's bullshit. The quality control is trash with Pioneer
One of my Nexus’s track search buttons died on me, after extremely low mileage - I now own 2 Denons and they’re built like tanks - flawless! Any and all bugs are long gone with software updates.
I think that people need to really understand Denon is way ahead of pioneer and pioneer just gives you alittle at a time but raises the price by 1000!!!
ABOUT HOT CUES: You say they can only be used as cues, but if u go to the end of your track and then activate slip, the cues will only play while being held down.
I give pioneer props no question but tbh I think this officially makes me a denon dj now, there not perfect but for the effort and price they put into their new gear really shows and I mean if my prime 4 feels “prime” I can only imagine how the sc6000s feel and plus the don’t cost 2300 dollars for one deck
At 4:04, it's a Hungarian subtitled tutorial video! What a surprise, that is my mother language! :o Where could you find it? Translation: -With the JOG DIAL, you can find the rythm of the song (surely, it's a bit weird).
Hey whats uppp Carlos great video now I always see you testing and using the latest equipment but I want to know what do you use the most turntables or controllers
Depends really! I'm heavy on the CDJs in clubs and gigs. Controllers are mostly for the channel, and some gigs. Turntables I tend to use for competitions only; even with Phase, I like saving my needles, and the set up takes a bit more time.
Hey Carlo Atendido, first of all nice video, very complete love your work ! I wanted to know if you could do a Q&A videos where we can ask you questions in comments or where do you prefere because i have a tons of questions ! I also wanted to know if nowadays you can still run giggs with controller or if you are forced to have CDJ's and if you can, which controller do you advice and if you can't, which CDj's do you advice ? Personnally, what do you use in nightclubs ? Thank you for your contents keep it up !
My thought too... its funny how offended some people are because the CDJ doesnt mean what they think it should, and I can imagine theyve never owned a CDJ or even be serious about purchasing one.. besides, think of all the money and time saved burning CDs...
@They Caged Non What I mean is that the "cd" in this case is not compact disk. People think that CDJs should play CD's just because they have "CD" written in their names. Pioneer themselves give this answer to everyone.
@@andowalsh I agree, some people get mad just because they were wrong in something that's not even important. The fact that you don't need to burn CD's every week to update your music library is a lifetime game changer tho!
Just to add, the bottom line is Pioneer can call them whatever they want to, if this issue is a deal breaker then people need to have a serious word with themselves.. The same people who would vehemently dislike the colour or name of a supercar they couldn't ever afford..
Since I'm Hungarian I instantly noticed the hungarian text scroll on the cdj500 demo/tutorial video. No idea where you picked it up :D Greetings from Hungary.
The CUE buttons are on top, because DJs usually rest their hand on the bottom of the unit while beatmaching or just using the jog wheel. And I think it's a very good design decision!
I for one was disappointed for the main reason of NO SERATO software. Many have waited and now many will continue to wait for this. Who knows when the clubs will upgrade to these monsters but... if nightclubs want to upgrade, I say don't upgrade from the CDJs 2000s and stay with those.
List of reason why I will not buy this. IT CANNOT PLAY CDS! $2,300 price tag PER UNIT! Hate the pads! I strongly believe we need to fix the quality of music we are getting from the DJ pools. Quality mp3s first. Then quality players, then quality speakers.
i think ill stick with the sz and the rzx for now, better pads options and position, better search, more mobile, and half the price down. they called it cdj and it's without a cd slot wait whaaaaaat . in the end its a ddj-rzx with a bigger screen and double the price. looool pioneer. Denon just killed ya
Hell yes, i buy it. Why? You know what you get, a product that has Stability, reliable and works all the time. Dual layer you will never see it on a flagship from Pioneerdj.
Most people complaining about the CDJ-3000 haven't used one. People who actually work with club gear like Mojax have a different opinion. Every other deck looks outdated next to a CDJ-3000 because of the stacked waveform and better screen with a super-smooth refresh rate. It's built even more solid than the CDJ-2000NXS2, it loads tracks MUCH faster (even without gigabit ethernet, but it also has gigabit ethernet), it has improved hot cues and key sync, it can use channel 5/6 on a DJM-V10, and it sounds better with MP3s. The jog wheel of a CDJ-2000NXS2 feels a little squishy compared to CDJ-3000, and that's kinda crazy because the CDJ-2000NXS2 had the best jog wheel. Nobody needs the stacked waveform - learning that way might make you a worse DJ (like learning on a controller) because it's hard to make yourself mix with your ears instead of just looking at the waveform. But it's a VERY visible upgrade. If you have linked CDJ-3000s the waveform looks modern, and no other CDJ (Pioneer or Denon) has a modern UI. Trolls are always going to say Denon is better. They look like toys, and no club owner would ever buy them. They're not flimsy, but they don't have the build quality of Pioneer's flagship stuff. And it's an awful workflow if you need to burn a thumb drive to play on Pioneer gear because Prime can't export a Rekordbox thumb drive. Denon is cheaper so maybe that makes them better for some people. I saw Maceo Plex bring in Denons to a club and he might actually prefer them. But I've never seen an actual professional say Denon was good - except Laidback Luke, and that's because he's their "brand ambassador" and Denon paid for his house. It's funny that people like to complain about the hot cues. The hot cues are directly under the screen, and the bottom of the screen is where you can see the cues on the track waveform, and it's where you tap the screen to needle search. It's nice having the hot cue buttons next to the place where you see the hot cues. It makes a lot better sense than having them somewhere else. Controller DJs want the buttons along the bottom, but DJs who are used to club gear don't want that.
Have you ever tried the denons? The new SC6000s bring a lot more innovation than the CDJ 3000 and the load times are quite similar. Here in Germany most of the big clubs have the denons and about 40% of the smaller clubs. They are a lot more intuitive and their built quality isn’t bad. Also you can plug rekordbox sticks into them and have all your hot cues and loops with the track information. Serato also can’t export into Rekordbox but engine prime can import a lot of dj softwares like Serato, rekordbox, Traktor etc. I know a lot of people who love them and I prefer them over pioneer. The only people I saw preferring pioneer were some guys who are playing pioneers since the Cdj 500 and even some of those still changed to denon.
@@cosmologicdj3994 I haven't tried the newer Denon stuff. I'm not even saying Denon is bad. It's just ridiculous to see so many people act like the CDJ-3000 has no new features and go on crazy rants about how much better Denon is when that's just not true. I said "it's an awful workflow if you need to burn a thumb drive to play on Pioneer gear." I know Denons can import a Rekordbox drive, but ... it seems a bit ridiculous to get Denon gear and use Rekordbox instead of Engine Prime. But that's what you have to do if you want to play on Pioneer gear, Prime can't export to a Pioneer-compatible drive. I'm not saying it's fair. You can blame Pioneer for not importing Denon USB drives. But you have to deal with reality if you want to play at clubs. That seems odd to say Denon is more intuitive. It's 99% the same as any CDJ. Even the phase meter looks exactly like a CDJ. And the parts where it's different from a CDJ are going to be unintuitive to anybody with experience on CDJs. Maybe things are totally different in Germany, but ... I don't believe you when you say the only people who prefer Pioneer are some guys who used CDJ-500s. DJs can use whatever gear they want, and most of the big ones have tour managers dealing with all that for them. But I've seen over 100 touring DJs in person in the past two years, and Maceo Plex is the only one who used Denon. Everybody uses Pioneer. Maybe they use Traktor/Ableton, too. Maybe they use an Allen & Heath mixer. But they rarely use Denon.
@@RaquelFoster I think when people say denon is better than pioneer in relation on their newest high end gear they mean that denon improved their players and put new features in them while pioneer took four years to make a new player and did not bring that much features you would expect for this time. I heard a lot people are calling pioneer lazy. Well to burn a thumb drive for playing on pioneers when you have the denons in your studio is stupid but you have the same export process with Serato or other dj softwares so I wouldn’t blame it on denon but on pioneer to not implement a import feature into rekordbox. Engine Prime by denon would have this feature. Of course the most touring DJs are on pioneer but that doesn’t make denon bad. Denon is used by big DJs like laidback Luke and Oliver heldens. I never had a problem with denon gear at a club. Everywhere I got booked they had denons or were ok with renting some for a night or I’m ok with even bringing them there if it’s not to far away. You don’t have to believe me that the only people preferring pioneer over denon are pioneer users since the first CDJs. I know some guys who were always turntablists and now got a SC6000 M and love it. Of course I get it when you were having a CDJs from the CDJ 500 to the CDJ 2000 NXS2 and you Switch everything feels a bit odd at first. But they are worth a try. The biggest difference I’ve heard people see between the players are the jogwheels and the pitch faders. The jogwheels feel different to me but I don’t have a favorite. The pitch fader on the other side feels kinda better on the denons to me. Get in the mix made a good Point on that in their comparison Video
Only people who dun receive cdj3000 will be honest about it. Watching other people saying how good it was because they got a pair from Pinoeer, now I know the truth.
If you run a stage at a festival, if you run a club, if you have a serious venue. But you know what? Even at 1-3 of my above, I still wouldn’t, even without covid, but these. They don’t offer up enough to make me want to change from the nexus and further: lots of people are turning up with controllers. Beyond that... I think I’d rather change up next time and buy denons, you know, go with someone who DOES want to be on the cutting edge
