4 Cable Method Using a Real Amp and Helix Preamps

Подписаться 13 тыс.

Просмотров 9 тыс.

50% 1

Viewer question about how to use Helix preamps with a real amp in 4 cable method...not as difficult as you think. There is a catch though!
If you want to try this patch yourself grab it here: tinyurl.com/4tn3t2da
Please LIKE & SUBSCRIBE
Thanks for watching
-You Can Follow Me Here-
Website - www.benhartwellguitar.co.uk
Facebook - / benhartwellguitar
Twitter - / bhartwellguitar
Instagram - / benhartwellguitar
TikTok - / benhartwellguitar
Line 6 Marketplace - shop.line6.com/marketplace/?a...
-Gear I Use-
Camera: amzn.to/3eJHAB8
Lens: amzn.to/3eMED2G
Microphones: amzn.to/2IQIBZ6 & amzn.to/2rPH0rY & amzn.to/3ykuLFt
UAD interface: amzn.to/3gK8Izs
Guitar FX: amzn.to/2wOEmIG
Impulse Responses: www.3sigmaaudio.com
Speakers: amzn.to/2kFrnAc
Headphones: amzn.to/3krtLrw
Computer: amzn.to/35A3SzJ
Lights: amzn.to/3r0JQs7
Desk lights: amzn.to/3oEck9Q
Guitar Rack: amzn.to/34uDAPM
Humanscale chair: amzn.to/34vs0Ej
Sound treatment: amzn.to/31K74Yu
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - 4CM setup
4:18 - Noise!
4:53 - Preamp setup
10:34 - Final thoughts
4 Cable Method Using a Real Amp and Helix Preamps
#4cablemethod #Helix #preamp

Видеоклипы

Опубликовано:

23 июл 2024

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 20

@isaacwilliams153 Месяц назад

Man, nice explaination! Very clear and easy to follow!

@mathieuchauvette6391 Год назад

Dude... thanks for taking the time!!! Appreciated - From the random guy on facebook who needed help :)

@linoleum1979 Год назад

NICE!!! I had been asking as well! Nice to see a video finally! Thanks BEN!

@ryancox8282 Год назад

What’s the advantage of setting it up this way versus just running the preamp through a send/return block? Wouldn’t doing it that way just give you a send/return block that is your victory preamp? Then you could run whatever you want ahead of that preamp. Your switching between the two could then be simplified by having a foot switch assigned to turn off that block and switch on a helix preamp…

@davidwharton5912 Год назад

I think the idea of panning L/R for the split channels, was to make the set up simpler without needing to use the Send/Return blocks. However if you want to do a similar set-up in HX Stomp (XL), then you do need to use the send/return blocks as you only have the one line in/out (L/R). I'm here looking to see how to use helix amps mixed in with the various Catalyst per-amps on FX Loops.... I think my next stop is the MIDI section .... deep dive.... send help 🤪

@therealdealblues Год назад

Thanks for the video. New to the Helix and have never seen this particular idea for switching between amp and preamp sim. Regarding the noise, I eliminated it by using a passive Lehle ISO unit between the Helix and the cable running to the front input of the amp if that’s of any help. As you noted unplugging that cable eliminates the noise, an isolation transformer on that cable makes things perfectly quiet.

@blueeyephil 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for your video. I like your idea of top and bottom lines. And using the EQ blocks to switch between the real amp and Helix amps in order to keep the pedals in front of the amps the same. As far as the noise I've seen a number of posts on FB complaining abought that. One thing I wonder if there is an issue with line vs instrament when going from Helix to the amp that might be causing it.

@oscarmejia6408 Год назад

I strongly believe you’re getting noise because you’re ultimately sending an entire 1/4” signal but panned…. It works but hélix is still trying to send a line/instrument signal (other important settings you need to check on your helix) but the signal is panned making it strange for your rig. That is why the FX send/return blocks within the Helix work so much better no matter what configuration you try.

@linoleum1979 Год назад

YES!!!!

@pdx666 4 месяца назад

Hey there great video do you know if I could achieve this with a HX Stomp XL. Any help would be greatly appreciated

@IZE83L 9 месяцев назад

I think if you change the LIne output going to front of amp from LINE signal to INSTRUMENT signal it will eliminate that hum...

@killtheauthorguitarguy9601 Год назад

Noise suppressor in the loop between helix and fx send would do it no???

@blakeyuk1981 Год назад

So can a JVM and Helix be used in a 4CM as normal to get the benefit of the Amp tone. Then connect the Helix to the power amp in/out on the JVM. Is that how to use the JVM as a powered speaker?

@IbanezShreds Год назад

Could you please explain more where the middle line with the Helix preamp is being sent to? I don't think it was explained in this or the 4CM video. I could have just missed it. Edit: I switched it to "Output Path 2A" wish me luck. Also thank you for the video by the way, very intimidated by my new Helix.

@BenHartwellGuitar Год назад

Yeah that's right. The middle line, so line 1B goes to 2A so that it feeds the audio into the front of the preamp. The Helix patch is available to download in the description if you want the exact patch I build. Don't worry the Helix is awesome, you will love it.

@crsantin 11 месяцев назад

Can someone provide any insight into the tone suck issue with Helix and the 4cm. I’ve tried everything and watched every video out there. Helix in 4cm ruins my tone and feel. I’ve tried numerous amps. Helix takes something away from my amps. Any ideas out there?