4 Channel Audio on the Sony FX3 / FX30 - Full Setup Guide

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How to set up 4 channel audio recording on the Sony FX3. I show each setting on the Sony FX3 Audio Handle for using 4 channel audio recording as well as which menu settings need to be changed.
I also show how to select each channel inside Final Cut Pro X along with some additional settings for audio monitoring and HDMI recording. The shot to camera was filmed using 4 channel audio recording on the Sony FX3 with my Sony 50mm f/1.2 GM lens.
Please note that the Splitter Cable shown in the video is not the correct cable to use for splitting mics, it needs to be a stereo to 2 x mono. I have linked to the correct type of cable below.
Links mentioned in the video
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3.5mm Splitter Cable - geni.us/vd2JIm
Rode Wireless Go II - geni.us/18JAle
How to use the Sony FX3 Audio Handle - • How To Use The Sony FX...
Kit used making the video...
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Sony FX3 - geni.us/Mc4njM
Sony 50mm f/1.2 GM - geni.us/NRL7d
Sony 35mm f/1.8 - geni.us/4q4LaB
Sennheiser MKH416 mic - geni.us/WeoR8
Rode NTG3 - geni.us/rYH3
Sony UWP-D21 - geni.us/qrD2HuM
Tiffen Black Promist Filter 1/8 - geni.us/0yLR5
My FX3 Rig
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Sony FX3 - geni.us/Mc4njM
SmallRig half cage - geni.us/No7EPwh
SmallRig handle extension - geni.us/uenOVz
SmallRig 6" carbon rods - geni.us/EheyP
SmallRig 4" carbon rods - geni.us/tnQgRS2
SmallRig rod clamp - geni.us/iNBIW
Nitze monitor mount - geni.us/VIGVG9
Atomos Shinobi monitor - geni.us/AllxdBw
Table of Contents:
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00:00 - Intro
00:35 - Previous Video
00:56 - Setting 4ch Recording
01:25 - Setting Audio Monitoring
02:01 - Setup for 1 XLR Mic and a 3.5mm Input
03:54 - Setup for 2 XLR Mics and a 3.5mm Input
05:30 - Selecting Channels in FCPX
06:15 - Using an External Recorder
06:39 - HDMI Output Settings
Links
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Supporting Blog Post - www.pauljoy.com/2021/11/4-cha...
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#FX3

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@PaulJoy 2 года назад

The 3.5mm splitter cable shown in the video isn't the right type, it needs to be stereo male to dual mono female and the one shown is stereo to dual stereo! I have updated the links in the description to the correct type of cable. geni.us/vd2JIm

@Superjeanmarc Год назад

Paul, doesn't it need to be the opposite? Meaning Stereo FEMALE to dual mono MALE? That would allow to connect the cable coming out of the dual receiver, into a female plug and split it into to male mono jacks that then connect to the 3,5mm to XLR adapters that fits into the FX3?

@JeremiahCox 11 месяцев назад

@@Superjeanmarc Any update on this? Just want to be sure I'm grabbing the correct splitter! :)

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

Hi there, sorry I missed your last message. You only have one stereo input on the handle so if you want to connect two audio devices via that single input you need the male to be a single stereo plug and the females to be 2 x mono inputs.

@zhiyangtsai972 2 года назад

Hey Paul really appreciate your videos that's just clear and simple without much of commercial inserts. Keep it up!!

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Thanks loads for letting me know.

@seancloutier2577 Год назад

Merry Christmas bro, these videos are excellent!

@PaulJoy Год назад

And to you Sean, have a great one.

@Bobbylopezcreative 2 года назад

Brilliant. Exactly what I needed when I needed it.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Thanks for letting me know, glad it helped.

@quasiguy 2 года назад

This was an absolutely brilliant video and well timed. I just got my FX3 today and I was stymied about how to get all four channels to record. I was missing the all-important MI Shoe Audio Set. Success! The explanations on this video are crystal clear and your close ups make it even easier to follow. Now I'm going to watch your "How to use the Sony FX3 XLR Audio Handle" to see if I missed anything else. Thank you for doing this. More people need to see your work!

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Really pleased it helped, thanks for leaving such a fab comment.

5 месяцев назад

Very helpful video, Paul! Must watch for anyone with a FX3

@PaulJoy 5 месяцев назад

Thanks loads, glad it helped.

@GeraldBertramPhotography 2 года назад

Fantastic video, Paul, and very timely. I have a shoot in a couple days where I plan to play with some 4 channel audio with my FX3.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Thanks again for the feedback Gerald. Good luck with the shoot, let me know how it works out for you.

@Lexplorer Год назад

Great equipment that i miss to buy with my fx30 Now i have to buy it now cuz it make me record a spare of audio to make a good video Thx so much

@stephenahearn2919 Год назад

Excellent clear and concise video - thank you! Subscribed

@PaulJoy Год назад

Thanks for the sub, really pleased you liked the video.

@adventureStaley 2 года назад

This was super helpful

@JardeP Год назад

just what i needed to see! thank you!!

@PaulJoy Год назад

Really pleased it helped, thanks for letting me know.

@KenSambury 2 года назад

Appreciate this Paul. Also inspired me to make my own videos when I figure things out.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

That’s great Ken, have fun with the videos.

@LiamStevens 2 года назад

Thanks for the help Paul!

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

My pleasure Liam, thanks for the comment :)

@florent-thomas Год назад

Great video, thanks again for this!

@PaulJoy Год назад

You’re very welcome, glad it was helpful.

@PonteRyuurui Год назад

very helpful vid, thank you

@PaulJoy Год назад

Thanks for letting me know, much appreciated.

@fluff1991 Месяц назад

this is perfect and explains a lot thank you.

@PaulJoy Месяц назад

You're very welcome!

@studioapiemychwile6548 Год назад

Dziękuje za porady

@PaulJoy Год назад

You’re welcome.

@AJBlockVideo 2 года назад

Thank you friend, you just saved me on a shoot!

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Pleased to help, thanks for letting me know.

@TheRaph167 Год назад

nice video!

@PaulJoy Год назад

Thanks!

@user-uk5tq8uq6b Месяц назад

Very useful and concise. Subscription.

@PaulJoy Месяц назад

Thanks loads, glad it helped.

@HopeProphecy Год назад

Great info! Do you know if the ZV-E1 has 16bit or 24 bit audio? What is the best XLR adaptor to add to it? Thanks!

@PaulJoy Год назад

Sorry I know nothing about that camera.

@aevoss 9 месяцев назад

Thank u 🙏🏼

@PaulJoy 9 месяцев назад

You’re welcome 😊

@SergioPellico 2 года назад

Just to contribute something else ... 2 things. The wireless Go 2 mounted on the Mic Shoe of the camera without the handle ... it puts noise in recording and is also heard in the headphones (at least in my FX3) ... as soon as you separate it from there it disappears ... And another thing, the audio inputs have limiters up to a certain level. At a wedding party, I record one channel (with a condenser mic) with automatic gain and in the other the same signal from the same mic but with the gain in manual at a low level in case it distorts ... good video !!! Thanks!

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Hi Sergio. Thanks that's useful to know, I wonder what could cause that as it seems to work fine with my Sony UWP system. I haven't tried the Wireless Go II but I did own the first version for a while, I ended up returning it when I found out it didn't work with my Sony ECM-77 lav mics.

@boontingbanna4499 Год назад

Thk.❤️

@PaulJoy Год назад

You’re welcome.

@rosto99 2 года назад

Really enjoying your Fx3 series! Only, I was wondering what version of FCPX and OS you are using? For some strange reason, I am not seeing my footage in the Media Import Window with FCP 10.6.1 and Monterey 12.0.1. The only way I can import the footage is by sliding the media from the SD card onto the timeline.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Hi there. I'm using FCPX 10.6.1 and I'm on OS 11.6.1 as my 2014 Retina iMac is now too old to have the latest OS!

@seanhdr4k629 2 года назад

The content is excellent. The image quality is also superb. Just wondering, was it internal recording or were you using an external recorder for this video?

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Talking head shots are done with the FX3 internal recording, 10bit 4:2:2, shots of the fx3 are with the FS5 8bit 4:2:0

@seanhdr4k629 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.

@seanhdr4k629 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy If you can make videos how to create a superb video with FX3 as yours, that will be awesome :) Picture Profile, XAVC-i, Catalyst, HDR Gamut (Library), 264 (Project), Final Cut Pro Exporting Option For RU-vid etc. I have already subscribed to your channel.

@JanSimanek 6 месяцев назад

❤

@sam78882 Год назад

Mr Paul I’ve been trying all day to set up my audio on my fx30 and the ninja v+ tested as I saw that I was getting a signal but when I played my Sony card from my Ninja no sound at all . I’ve never had such a problem in the past but after such a long time being sick I did not touch my equipment for a year . Now I have to learn again . Plus I sold my fx3 bought a7IV and the fx30 and kind of feeling down with the fx30 unless I learn more on how to set it up tomorrow I am going up to Lake Mead at the border of Nevada and Arizona and will give it a test drive hope it works . Cheers

@PaulJoy Год назад

Hey Sam. I'm not sure what you mean by "played my Sony card from my Ninja". If you can give me a little more detail I'll gladly try to help. I hope the trip is going well.

@sam78882 Год назад

@@PaulJoy what I meant is the SSD card of the ninja that I am using on my ninja

@QuinnAden Год назад

Thanks man. It's a bummer that they don't have an option to do stereo recording with 1/2 with the option to reduce the gain for a safety channel. I wonder if they could include this with a firmware update?

@PaulJoy Год назад

The camera can do that with inputs 1 and 2, but theres no way to do it with inputs 3 & 4 in camera. Look at the Rode VideoMic NTG as that uses the 3.5mm input and does the safety channel in mic.

@AM2PMReviews 2 года назад

do you think it is better to do a convert my Rode wireless Go 2 into the XLR or just keep it on the 3.5. I think you said the XLR inputs are better so maybe is should just adapt it.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Rally not sure about that one, my guess is it will likely give you a cleaner sound but not 100% sure. If you try it let me know how it goes.

@EduardoMontesBradley Год назад

Hello Paul, Thank you for these great videos. Everything on my end works fine, except that I can't use the NTG3 because after about 5 minutes of recording, I get a loud interference or feedback sound that makes it impossible to continue my recording. I tried everything in the book and still can't figure it out. I decided to replace the NTG 3 with a battery-operated Shenhizer buy; as you know, the quality is not the same.

@PaulJoy Год назад

That’s very strange, was it a dodgy mic in the end?

@thaisdespont Год назад

Thank you Paul for your videos on this subject. I am confused though because, when interviewing, I am always using a shotgun XLR mic (in Channel 1) + a Lavalier mic through the Wireless Go (in Channel 3). That way, I have a back up if the Lavalier has parasite noises. But it seems I have no option to listen to CH1 in my left ear and CH3 in my right ear ? Neither do I have the choice to send CH1 and CH3 to my external recorder ? How come ? (it seems like my set up is pretty basic)

@PaulJoy Год назад

That's correct, you can't have IN1/2 and IN3 in channels 1 and 2 or 3 & 4. The best solution to your problem would be to get a 3.5mm to XLR adapter and run that in to the second XLR input. That will give you both mics on channel 1 & 2 for headphone monitoring and HDMI output.

@nikolaevfilm1975 2 года назад

Thank you for the video! was very helpful. Can I ask you, how did you adjust balance in FCPX. Because when I record all 4 channels, my channel 1 is in my "left" channel. How do you center it? thank you

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Hi there. If you go in to the audio configuration for the clip you can change it from Stereo to Dual Mono.

@nikolaevfilm1975 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy thank you very much! keep up the good work.

@tutomedia5715 2 года назад

Awesome!! best on youtube on this topic!!

@patamuslo69 11 месяцев назад

thanks for this video! now.... what are the micro USB port for?

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

You're very welcome. It's for plugging in very small USB things :)

@JAMESBOCCO 9 месяцев назад

Hi Paul, great video, thanks. Can I just check if I plug 2 single V1 Rode Wireless Gos using 3.5mm to XLR connectors individually into input 1and 2, will it play back in Premiere Pro as a mixed audio track? It's not going to pan input 1 to the left channel and input 2 to the right channel, is it? Thanks!

@PaulJoy 8 месяцев назад

If the Go’s are sending a single mono output to each of the channels then they will be two mono tracks in Premiere I would imagine. I’ve not used Premiere for a long time though so not 100%!

@tigerwittman 2 года назад

How do you go about balancing the audio control with the gain on the handle and the gain in the camera?

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Hi, the audio gain in camera is disabled when using the handle.

@rockafellerstent Год назад

G Unit

@akcine 2 года назад

If I have two mics connected to the FX3 handle. Is it possible to record the audio of one mic into the left channel and the audio of the second mic into the right channel? This way I could edit the audio of each mic separately.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Each XLR input does record to an individual channel and you can normally choose in the application you use to edit how to handle those channels.

@vladislav8416 Год назад

Hello! Can I record sound directly to the built-in microphone FX3 and ECM-B1M hotshoe mic?

@PaulJoy Год назад

Nope, one or the other unfortunately.

@user-be7tk6rv3g 8 месяцев назад

Very helpful thank you!. But I wanna know how much impedance can Fx3 power. I am planning to buy a headphone to connect directly to my camera(FX3) and I have no idea if it can power 250ohm or not. I am planning to buy among 80ohm or 250ohm. How much impedance can it power?

@PaulJoy 8 месяцев назад

I use Sennheiser HD25's which have a nominal impedance of 70 ohm and they give plenty of volume, I normally have my output set around halfway. I'm not sure what Sony's specs are.

@JakobEvers 6 месяцев назад

Hi... Have you tried without the audio handle, and connecting a dual microport with MI shoe and connecting ch3+4 via mini jack on the side of the FX3?

@PaulJoy 6 месяцев назад

Hi there. That won't work as you can't use the mini jack at the same time as the MI shoe unfortunately.

@amyhill710 2 года назад

Hi Paul, I use 4-channel audio recording and yesterday I filmed an interview with a Rode Wireless Go in input 3 and a backup NTG5 in input 1. When it came to editing my video, there was no audio available. It played fine through the camera but when it came to playing within editing software there was silence or through VLC player it said "VLC could not decode the format "IPCM"'. Do you why the codec might have happened?

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Hi Amy. LPCM is the correct codec so my guess is it must be an issue with playback machine. Do you have the latest VLC? My FX3 4ch clips play back fine in VLC.

@amyhill710 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy Hi Paul thanks for your reply, yeah it was latest VLC player and when my client imported it into Final Cut Pro it didn’t work. I have imported it into Premiere however and it works fine! Very strange!

@familyjunk3989 Год назад

50 mil looks great, I'm jealous :)

@PaulJoy Год назад

My fave lens for interviews now, use it all the time.

@Mrthenitoman 2 года назад

Can you use the 3.5 mm jack from the handle and the 3.5mm jack input from the camera at the same time???

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

No, when you connect a mic to the 3.5mm input in the camera body it disables the audio handle and changes the camera from 4ch to 2ch.

@klotsinga9774 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy Just so I understand your last remark right -- If I connect a mic to the 3.5mm input in the camera body, any audio devices connected to the fx3 via the hot shoe on top of the camera won't work???

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

@@klotsinga9774 Yes I think thats the case. It was a while ago I tested it but you certainly cant use both at the same time.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

@@JustKarthiK Hi there. I’ve not used a 3.5mm time code generator but in theory it will add audio signals in the same way as a mic.. Try following the setup for using 4 channel audio but with xlr mics going to channel 1&2 plus the 3.5mm input from the TC generator in channel 3.

@mreddieau 2 года назад

It's a shame the FX3 doesn't give you independent audio input control for the basic mic jack. Through a Deity shotgun mic I can actually send another input source in via the jack which is great. However the input level is locked to both channel 1 and 2 together, no seperate control.

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Hi Steve. Yes if using 4 channel audio you’re stuck with the single level control for the 3.5mm input. One option you do have if only using two channels though is to split the 3.5mm stereo signal and send one channel to one of the XLR inputs via an adapter. As you say though, adding left / right channel levels on the handle would have been a lot more flexible.

@johnnythunder8382 8 месяцев назад

This video should be goated. I only thought you can use only 2 inputs on the top handle. Thanks

@PaulJoy 8 месяцев назад

Glad I could help

@MANGO-FILM Год назад

Hi Paul, my audio level is not displayed. Instead the shoe audio set is displayed on my screen. So it shows what I selected in the shoe audio set. And under Audio Recording I don´t have the "Audio Level Display". I did everything according to the Sony help. I did not mark "No Disp. Info" under DISP (Screen Disp) Set . Maybe someone can help

@PaulJoy Год назад

They removed some options in the recent software updates and changed the location of the level meters.

@paulagillan7133 2 года назад

When I set this up it effected the use of in camera proxy recording in premiere pro. As in it seems Premiere was not able to link to them. But when I set the recording back to 2 channel it could. Would you have a solution to recording audio on 4 channels and still be able to use in camera recorded proxies?

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Sorry I don't use Premiere so I'm not sure with that one. Do the proxy files contain all four channels of audio?

@paulagillan7133 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy It seems that not matter how many channel are set up for recording on the FX3 it will only record proxies in stereo left and right. So when recording 4 channels premiere does not recognise the in camera proxy recording as a proxy. If I only record 2 channels premiere will recognise the in camera recording. Are you aware of any work around that would allow for in camera proxy use when recording more than two channels?

@AJBlockVideo 2 года назад

How do I set the fx3 so i can adjust headphone volume while recording?

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

I don't think you can unfortunately. The headphone volume is only accessible via the main menu and that cant be used while recording.

@KoW 11 месяцев назад

Can I use 2 mini-jack connection without additional "XLR" mount?

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

I’ve not tried that but I don’t see why not, the 3.5mm input on the body is also stereo.

@KoW 11 месяцев назад

@@PaulJoy Can I connect 1 microphone by hot shoe and second by mini-jack? Splitter won't work because microphones are stereo and I want record 4 channels on Sony FX30 is it possible?

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

@@KoW Ah right, no you can’t do 4 channel recording with the the in camera mic input, just two, you’ll need to use the handle for that and use one stereo jack to the XLR inputs with an adapter cable and on stereo jack to the 3.5mm input on the handle.

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

@@KoW Actually you could record 4 channels without the handle but only by mixing down the channels first. Some wireless mics will let you mix down a dual input to a single audio track. Of course you then won’t be able to adjust the levels separately.

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

@@KoW No, when you connect something to the mic input on the camera the MI shoe / handle is disabled.

@solangeaurelio6131 Год назад

Hi, I am having a tech issue hopefully you can help me, I am trying to connect my rode wireless go ii to my fx3 sound bar (just got this camera). I can’t seem to hear anything out of the headphone’s when trying to monitor the sound. I have it connected to input 1 via the sound bar and the headphone into the 3.5 Jack, but no sound is coming out of the headphones. It shows that it is picking up sounds, but i can’t hear anything. I tried it on my a7siii and it works fine, so I don’t think it’s the rode, can you tell me what I am missing? Thanks!

@PaulJoy Год назад

If the camera is showing an audio signal then it’s likely either headphone level is set low or they are not connected to the right 3.5mm which is easily done.

@giofreerun Год назад

Can you record audio with the hot shoe and the internal mic of the FX3 at the same time?

@PaulJoy Год назад

Unfortunately not, as soon as you connect a device to the MI shoe the internal mic and 3.5mm input on the camera are disabled.

@giofreerun Год назад

@@PaulJoy Thank you for your answer! Found out two days ago the hard way, but managed to solve it quickly with an extra mic.

@siskoDE Год назад

is the fx30 xlr handle the exact same to the fx3 handle?

@PaulJoy Год назад

I've not seen the stand alone one but yes I believe it is.

@jezreelfilms 8 месяцев назад

Question: Is it normal to have hissing sound from the input 1 and 2 event it has no mics plug in?

@PaulJoy 8 месяцев назад

Yes that can happen if the gains are turned up. It shouldn’t be that noticeable though! If it is then it me be external interference plating a part.

@jezreelfilms 8 месяцев назад

Thank you! @@PaulJoy

@CGIIII 2 года назад

I’m sure you can record 4 channels of audio to the ninja v. I have inadvertently done this before and had to delete them in post as I was only using 1 mic. Might be worth looking into..

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

Thats interesting, I don't own a Ninja V yet but I'll definitely check that out when I get chance. Thanks for the heads up.

@KenSambury 2 года назад

Yeah when u figure it out let us know

@PaulJoy 2 года назад

@@KenSambury Just looking at the Ninja V now and as far as I can see it only receives 2 channels from the FX3. You can also connect a mic directly to the ninja to do 4 channel audio though.

@KenSambury 2 года назад

@@PaulJoy ok thanks

@WeiselFalso 2 месяца назад

Just got the FX30 and was thinking of going for a 4 channel solution but a little bit different. I was thinking of using a Zoom F3 for 2 booms into the line input of the camera and a 2 TX x 1 RX Lav system into de MI Hotshoe, is this possible??? I would test it myself but I dont have a MI Lav system :(

@PaulJoy 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately if you can’t use the MI shoe and 3.5mm mic input at the same time. You would need to use the audio handle and 4 channel audio to utilise the 3.5mm input on the handle and the XLR inputs.

@WeiselFalso 2 месяца назад

@@PaulJoy Wow that sucks thanks for answering tho!

@wynnmediaasheville 5 месяцев назад

Hello! This might sound dumb.. but I can not get my audio levels to display in bottom left corner as you have it! I’ve tried searching a couple of things that say there should be a “audio level display” somewhere but I just can not find it! :(

@PaulJoy 5 месяцев назад

Bear in mind this was with older firmware, Sony changed the audio meters for V2 to put them top left and make them very small.

@adrenalinefl4289 Год назад

What would a good mic for the fx3 be

@PaulJoy Год назад

What are you planning to use it for?

@cinemainthestreet Год назад

🎬🎬🥂❤👍

@CinematographyLischka Год назад

with a quick test it didnt work, ill take a sunday morning to test this in all detail.

@PaulJoy Год назад

Good luck, some of the menu’s have changed since the update but the same steps should get you there.

@TooMuch_TV 11 месяцев назад

No matter what I do the ride go doesn’t record anything into the camera. Frustrated. Smh.

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

A couple of things to check, is the audio handle switched on? (Power switch on the left side of the handle). Also have you go the input set to in3?

@TooMuch_TV 11 месяцев назад

@@PaulJoy handle set to on. Yes. Input was set to 1 trying to use the features of the handle connected the wire to xlr input. I’ll try it on 3 this evening and see. I need to be able to record 2 ppl kind of simultaneously but on individual channels so I figured this was a slam dunk. No luck yet 🤣. I’ll figure it out and a lot more now that I found your page!!! Will update later this evening

@PaulJoy 11 месяцев назад

@@TooMuch_TV So if you're just using the Rode with two transmitters feeding input 3 then you need that switch set to IN 3 and you don't need 4 channel recording. If you're trying to use the rode at the same time as an XLR input (1 or 2) then you need to use 4 channel recording with the switch set to IN 1. See 2:00 in the video.

@TooMuch_TV 10 месяцев назад

@@PaulJoydid exactly as video shows. Only shotgun records. Rode just humming sound. I see all 4 channels on camera but no audio from rode. Starting to think these are defective.

@TooMuch_TV 10 месяцев назад

@@PaulJoyok. So I figured out the problem it’s the RODE ITSELF. I just plugged in my saromonic blink. Flawless instantly works. Damn. I’ll send the roses back!!!! Smh. Well good thing is I can get the newer pro version now. Instead of the go2 🤷🏽‍♂️