400HP for $40K! -- Is the BASE 2023 Nissan Z Sport the one to BUY?? 

Happy 4th eat too much cake lol

Did you say that it has the shift indicator on when to shift ?

Got it, check all base models for front end/rear end damage in 12 years when I can afford one that's been destroyed by an NFT bro! *the more you know*

@@Brentastrophe L

Yep... this is why I chose not to buy one. The sport model is about 15k out of my price range so I settled for a different car

Or just do what some of us do. Buy an aftermarket diff and take it to an A+ shop and have it swapped.

I disagree, people who will buy the base model will buy aftermarket parts whether its upfront or over time.

but this idiot didn't state it has a OPEN DIFF, the literal WORST part about the base model that makes it a PASS.

Nissan would obviously rather not sell many of the "cheap" Sport trim.

It should come with a limited slip diff. I have a base model s550 ecoboost mustang and even mine came with a limited slip diff and my car is 10k cheaper. Sure there's going to be aftermarket but the diff alone is like 1000+ and professional installation.

@@andyrodriguez1326 agreed.

You also forgot that your not going to be paying 40k for this car with dealership markups it’s more like 50-55k so yea 50k and no LSD they can keep that might as well just wait for the new Honda Civic Type R

Yeah...the lack of a LSD on a performance car has to be the most substantial difference. Everything else you can more or less "live with" (e.g. cloth seats) or upgrade without affecting warranty (e.g. tires) and/or factory engineered/designed driving dynamics.

It looks more like the original datsun 240Z without the spoiler.

I agree, it gives the shape a clean flow

Dealership $60k

@@rumble8014 please please don't say that. I talked to the sales woman that sold me my 370z and she said they aren't going to mark up the car. She said Nissan told them if they did they would lose their allocation of cars.

@@davidgaddy4328 Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior. Nissan is pulling a load of bullshit for the fans clearly, trying so hard to upsell you to the bad 50k version, don't be a shill, oh and they WILL mark it up, it's a Nissan dealer.. I will respond in a few months when I show you loads of marked up Z's

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Thr big brakes do look good though 👀

Thanks!

Happy 4th to you also!

And the 300zx looks better than all of them.

The 370Z is pretty much the same car it was in 2003. It's about time Nissan changed the body style. 😂

It does in the right color for sure.

For sure especially with the same performance you can definitely save some money for aftermarket parts, mods and tunes definitely considering getting

You shouldn’t do business with any dealer that does markups. Plenty of dealers will take your business at sticker price if you’re willing to travel c

not after the car buuble blows up. they will beg you to buy for invoice because interest rates will be astronomical. lol

Dealer markup isn't a thing here in Australia but even still, the driveaway price for the base model is $80k AUD, about $55k USD. I ordered an MY23 BRZ for just over half of that anyway, so I'm content for now.

Several of my local dealers have stopped markups because they have gotten in trouble 😂

Not if they meet my mama!

Many people will do after market rims , exhaust and spoilers etc. on these.....the base is perfect for this.

@@layne4376 this is exactly a sports car

@@layne4376 and NO LSD.

Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior.

@@ant208 it needs a diff silly, that costs a shit ton to buy and install(99% of car guys do not have the expertise to remove and install a diff, which is extremely hard and technical), this is what happens when nissan sells a 400HP RWD sports car with a OPEN DIFF, no other competitor has, horrific for handling and traction, tuning it would overwhelm the tires. no proper burnouts due to open diff too, hyindais, gti's, civic si all standard with LSD and those are 200HP to 260HP cars.

No lsd means a lot. This is not the model to go for.

@@2010ngojo a two way clutch replacement is much better and cheaper than nissans vlsd (which are known to be terrible on track)

Happy 4th to you as well!

Yes sir!!! A 2024 version is a must for me or how about T-tops...

@@Robbover yeah, a T top like an old Pontiac Firebird would look awesome too

My 240sx has 462 whp & 411 wtq and ran that on open diff ..... it was a one wheel wonder even with MT drag radials. It was horrible. So imagine 350 tq at 1600 rpm to 1 wheel ... Maybe if your not getting on it or driving like Miss Daisy, then its ok. But most who buy this car WILL step on it and its going to spin one tire and not go anywhere. I will easily get the performance model because it has the lsd with big brakes and the 19x10's in the rear so i can put on some sticky 305's .... and it has the better suspension because i dont plan to lower it at all ...

You only like the rim of the wheel? What's wrong with the rest of it?

Francisco, even base model Corvettes have had superior headlights ever since 2005. To be honest, even a base model Z06 from 2001 would be a better track car than this stripped down Nissan. This doesn't even have LSD. Lol

@@The_Hulkster most people don’t need an LSD. LSDs don’t really matter until you are at 7/10s and most people can’t drive that good anyways. The base Miata doesn’t have an lsd and it is still fun to drive.

@@postalpancho Wow. I kibdly disagree. You and I have gotten along fine in previous videos and I don't know why this is happening now. I know you're a better gentleman than this, sir.

the acura interior completely annihilates the Z's in features & looks..the Z has a better engine but that's about it

@@dizzybone2000 Sure that is until Acura decides that the 2024 model will come with a TypeR engine option!

@@dizzybone2000 the Integra does not beat this car in looks. not even close

Right? Integra is priced horribly. I was disgusted by the price.

@@chickenmuffin Yeah it’s priced too high for such little performance you get. I’d rather get a 6speed 2.0T accord over the integra.

Yep... Take the new Bronco for example. Many people don't know you can order a stripped down Base model with steelies for around $29,000. It still has the ecoboost, alot of off-road goodies, It comes stock with an auto but you can specially order it with the 6 speed manual with a crawl gear for the same price.

Actually if you look in the used car market, you can actually find some solid priced GTRs. Of course very few are priced close to 40k.

Anyways, the base model for 41k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior.

you going to need a limited slip diff, because base z comes with an open diff and won't hook up for shit. plus, plenty of mods for these engines already.

No LSD. No tires and bolt ons will make up for that.

I mean clearly nissain fucked up in this one. And my man is the prime example of not reading the brochure. You need LSD to do any sport related driving. Or you won't have any grip.

Bolt ons already available. It's a vr30.

Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior. You clearly do not know what the base model leae out

We would have loved to but we only had 15 minutes with this car since it was not part of the main media drive

@@CarConfections Oh wow that’s not a lot of time at all 🤯

He didn’t drive the manual.

We only had 15 minutes to check out this specific model so we had to just cut to the automatic model we drove earlier in the day for some context

@@CarConfections I understand, thank you!

This car's price point is pure shit. There are so many better options in both of it's price brackets.

@@ToneysReviews What would you get in this price bracket? I'd probably get a golf R but I value the practicality it offers.

@@rambow70 all MOPARs are cheaper, faster, have backseats, and come with better features. When you go for the fully loaded one at 54k, you are now in the RS3, 240i, Supra, and etc. territory. The Z performance is slower than a Mustang GT. This car is a 370z with a new (weaker) engine. Everything in this car is identical to the car before it outside of the infotainment and the LCD display gauge screen.

@@ToneysReviews Right but there is probably some decent tuning potential in the new Z. I bet you can get 450whp with a tune in a 3,500 lb car versus 485hp in a scat pack that weighs 4,200 lbs. Also those mopar cars get terrible gas mileage. I think it's closest competitors are the mustang GT, 240i, and supra. RS3 and S4 being AWD might attract a different audience.

@@rambow70 Have you seen this MPG for this car? It's only 19.7 (man)/22(auto) combine, lol. This car fails in every cat. And you can not compare a "tuned car" to a "non-tuned" car. That not even a fair comparison because you can also tune the MOPARs. You are free to do what you want with your money, but at the end of the day this car is over priced. Let me ask you this, why spend 54k or 40k, when you could spend 49k or 57k on a BMW 240i and destroy the Z in every way?

I definitely prefer the base model now that I see this. If I want a black roof, I can always wrap the roof panels.

Love the look of this base model SOOOOOO much more than the performance versions.

@@ToddDolce but it's ass, bad brakes and OPEN diff which is insane, Nissan is forcing peeps to get the shit 50k version that has the performance pack but gets clapped by 50k supra

@@ForzaMonkey Anyways, the base model for 40k is ass, you get bad brakes, and most importantly an OPEN diff, all competitors have lsd's, it means traction is horrid and handling takes a nosedive, even the civic si and gti have lsd's. you're forced to get the 49k Z to get the LSD, good brakes, rays wheels, spoiler, better exhaust, and decent interior(base interior is SAD as you can see), problem is at 49k you['re at Toyota supra pricing, which easily beats this car with a better engine, platform, and interior.

@@roboticvenom1935 Big Bummer. Yeah I figured there had to be a catch. Oh well a hard pass for me then. Friggn Nissan.

Your sti has a differential. This one doesn't, which means it's a 400bhp grocery getter.

@@VinRZ dont all cars have a differential?

A BMW more reliable than the Nissan?...dont think so

@@signkutter9218 I can tell you’ve never owned a luxury product. I’m not going to educate you. Just know that you’re missing out because of your ignorance.

Hell you can get an EN for 35kOTD. I got a VN 21 DCT for 35K OTD

@@xxtoptankxx6873 yeah but you’re in an ugly car. Sorry but Hyundai has the ugliest cars on the road. The N cars are quick for the money but they come with having to deal with the Hyundai dealership network, Hyundai reliability, Hyundai resale value. I’m glad they have been stepping up as a company but they still got a little ways to go.

@@postalpancho well looks are subjective and I’d say the Veloster is the best looking out of the 3 available. If all you have is “they are ugly” then you don’t got much. My VN has a 10 power train warranty that is a manufacturer warranty. With 7 year body. After 2 years of pwndership I haven’t had a problem other than hitting a road gator. So reliability isn’t a concern for me now.

Agreed 100%.... Now, design me one with a Targa or T-top for 2024. Then it's a wrap!

Happy 4th to you also!

@@CarConfections thanks

My dad has the same color too black cherry. And red interior

55k

$46,498 msrp

That's crazy that a 1991 Nissan Z cost over 40 thousand dollars! Adjust for inflation and that means the 1991 Nissan Z costs 70 thousand dollars in today's money!

@@braetonwilson4296 that was the biggest issue with that car. Their final year production was 1996 and they were over $50. The competition in the early 90’s was the RX7 turbo, Supra turbo, Stealth and Corvette.

You should see them next week

I used to have an 87, it's in my pic. What a special car, but awful to work on