4090 + 5800X3D...Is There a Bottleneck at 1440p? 

You see...while indeed you can say it's designed for 4K, I disagree. I do not think the resolution is the fault here, I think CPU's being too slow is the problem. A 1440p 360hz monitor is 1100 usd, which is more then a lot of 4k monitors, and 1440p 360hz is insanely hard to achieve, and only a 4090 amd 7900xtx can do that in call of duty multiplayer as an example. So yes, while 4k high refresg is finally possible thanks to the 4090, so is 1440p 360hz🙌

@@Beefy-Tech I mean...most people would not need a 1440p 360hz monitor....they can just get 1440p 240hz instead at a much lower price and you don't have to buy a 4090 for it...a 4080 is a more sensible card for people who crave high frame rates at 1440p at 360fps.

@@CasualG-mer yup. 4090 is overkill, and 240hz is even above what most people need. 360hz 1440p is for the 2% interested in the best of the best also.. But the 4090 can also do 240hz 4k, which is nuts. You pay a lot for it, but you definitely get crazy performance for the money👍

@@Beefy-Tech 4k 240hz...yup, that is the 4090's job.

@@Beefy-Tech have you done the benchmark within modern warfare 2 to see how’s the bottleneck there I have a 4090 and i9-13900k and I’m at 4% cpu and 96% GPU average 261 fps and lows 195fps @1440p

Thanks fam. Trying to up the quality of the videos as we are speaking👍updated the overlay of MSI afterburner with individual labels, added the cpu usage (it was broken lol), and trying to get a streamlined set of games to test so it's not as random as it's been up until now for the tested games.

I mean the title could use some work, since it says “is there a bottleneck”. There will always be a bottleneck, so for me the title bothers the hell out of me :,)

getting the 7950x3d on release specifically to test 4090, 6950xt, and in the future the 7900xtx (i need to sell some stuff cause this is getting expensive lmao). I will be posting a 4K resolution warzone 2 video as I believe some people want to see how 4k + competitive settings will do with this combination of hardware.

@@Beefy-Tech do you think the 7800x3d will pair good with 7900XTX for MW2 for 240hz 1440p?

I put out a 4K resolution video on the 4090 if you are interested, and tomorrow I'm doing an 8K video too👍

@@Beefy-Tech Thanks!

@@stevejohnson6248 is there bottleneck?

@@f.f.2260 There is always a bottleneck of some sort, at 4k it's gpu bound. With DLSS I'm getting over 100fps on Cyberpunk with max RT on.

Me too

I want to do a separate video on how that hurts cpu usage, but I decided to wait and get the 7950x3d because at 5800x3d level, losing 10% cpu usage in cod warzone 2 makes 4000hz unusable. 1000hz is more like 3% less usage when moving in warzone 2. In rainbow 6 siege, valorant, and ca go, 4000hz is perfectly reasonable to use though.

@@Beefy-Tech I use 16,000 corsair nightsword what is the effect would you think ?

Only about a 10FPS increase best case scenerio I'd say, but it's an increase none the less

I actually do want to do a test where I try DDR4 3200/3600 and my tuned 3800mhz kit with a 5800x3d in warzone 1 and 2. I have all the parts, but the 3600mhz kit is in my gf pc so I need a day where I can take her ram for testing😂😂😂

As for that resolution, I would only be able to test it with ingame selection of said resolution, meaning it wouldn't be native. I mean the overall assumption is it would be a middle ground between 2k and 4k.

@@Beefy-Tech the key takeaway from your video for me was that the gameplay was smooth and enjoyable. My plan is to buy a 4090FE and sell my 3090FE while it is still worth something this year. Then do a complete platform upgrade when the 8800x3d is released. That way I’m not having an expensive gpu upgrade in the same year. I mainly play warzone 2, but I do like to play games like Cyberpunk with all the eye candy turned on. I’m really looking forward to playing Hogwarts Legacy and Starfield soon. Have you got a video on tuning your ram? I’ll have a search. I have Corsair Dominator 3600/c18 currently but I’m sure I’ll be able to tune it. Not really had a need to so far, as the 5800x3d doesn’t have a problem with the 3090.

@@curtismariani6303 the thing is you will still get to enjoy a massive upgrade from 3090 to 4090 even without upgrading anything else. 5800x3d can draw 360fps+ in multiplayer mw2 and mw1. The throughput of it is strong enough where you won't ever really have a complaint with FPS you are getting. If you haven't already, I recommend trying PBO2 tuner with 5800x3d. An undervolt actually renders extra performance from 5800x3d, and I am going to do a video on it very soon as I think it's very much worth doing.

@@Beefy-Tech I’ve subscribed so will keep an eye out for that.

Warzone is cruel to CPU's 10700k os a great cpu, but warzone's cpu throughput consistency is shit, so ull experience big differences in FPS based on parts of the map.

how about 1080 gaming?

@@aqwandrew6330 you will be flying most of the ppl say these cards and cpus are for 2k and up im going for this cpu and 7900xtx ppl say that gpu is great for 4k but i play on 1080p and ppl say its overkill nah better have good gpy for the future if i plan to buy 2k monitor

@@ItzDnZ this is the way. But i never will buy 2k monitor because i hate 27 inch, its too big

@@aqwandrew6330 yeah gotcha

Ong dude

Ah, such a dedicated player. I'll take that extra 5800x off your hands for some 1080P gamp play. 😇

I had to "upgrade" my 5800x to a 13700k because it was such a stupidly hot CPU for the amount of power it's drawing. That and it was having weird USB/storage issues that I couldn't figure out

@@SlimedogNumbaSixty9 damn PC nerds. They will spend 1800 bucks on a gpu but wont fork over 100 to get a cpu cooler. pffft

That 7000x3d will be great for pushing the 360hz refresh rate! And yes, 4000hz polling rate is great, I threw it in there as a bonus test as I just got it then xD I'm making a full video on polling rate once I too have a 360hz monitor to test on.

Also in rust too

@@frxxdqm8980yup. cpu intensive games that’s why.

But the 4090 can last for 4+ years on 1440p

The 7900xtx matches the 4080 and is around 300 bucks cheaper its a no brainer

@@goldminer8732 Unless You like VR games or 4K RT Single player games due to frame gen. Which is my usecase :)

@@stormrider01so can a 4080…

@@stormrider01 Stop the cap. in 4 years the 4090 will be getting low end performance like say a XX50 or XX60 series card performance

I've updated that in the latest videos!

Hello, it's good you have a clear goal in mind, and taking into account your CPU, the 4080 would more then suffice for what you play and the refresh rate you are looking for. The advantage the 4090 would have us how future proof it is. If you were to buy a 4090 for your current rig it'd be significantly overkill, and even at 50% power target ud have 90% of the 4090s performance. But if you do a full system update including monitor, let's say to a future 8800X3D cpu, and a 4K 240hz monitor (which already exists and will become common in a couple years) the 4090 is currently capable of doing 4K 240fps in Warzone 1, Warzone 2, and other multiplayer games. And it's capable of 4k 120+Fps in single player Ultra preset games (with a couple exceptions ofc). 4080 is about 30-35% slower overall,but would be more then enough for years to come.

@@Beefy-Tech Thank you for your quick answer :D I guess I will buy a 4090 based on your explaination because 400€ more or less for 30-35% more performance plus the possibility to simply upgrade the CPU in the future and gain even more FPS is tempting enough for me. Just one more question: would you say it's sufficient enough to just buy one of the cheapest models of the 4090? Or would you rather go for a premium model like the cards from Asus, MSI, or Gigabyte due to their overclocking potential? I'm not really convinced that buying a Strix card with a high power limit makes any sense, because it seems like there's minimal to zero performance gains by increasing the stock power limit from 450w to 600w... what's your take on that topic?

@@normaldude5960 I have a generic "Low end" 4090 with a 450watt limit Inno 3D ichill and it makes absolutely no difference in 9/10 situations, except fan noise, and looks. Warzone 2 it uses 300 watts while Paired with a 7950x3d. meaning in multiplayer games youll never be at power limit. Worst cases that ive seen are Dying Light 2 4K Ultra Ray tracing, which uses 430watts while overclocked...but even then it didn't hit power limit. And at 8K res In Need For Speed Unbound it hit power limit of 450watts, but that's 8K Resolution, so it's expected. I'd say buy what looks best, because all of them will do pretty much the same thing, but just for your knowledge the Coil Whine on some models is worse then other models, I just don't know exactly which have more or less coil whine, so ull have to research.

@@Beefy-Tech Thank you, that helps a lot. :D Yeah, I think i will watch some reviews, in my country the Palit Gamerock is currently the cheapest model, so yeah... I don't really care about RGB or the optics in general, i just want silent fans, minimal coil whine and a good power-to-performance-ratio. Anyway, thank you for your time and opinion on that, have a great weekend. :D

I turn to 1000hz on warzone and switch to 4000hz in games that surpass my monitor refresh (240hz) such as siege and mw2 multiplayer. Unfortunately warzone 2 just won't be able to take advantage of it anytime soon, but Multiplayer still manages quiet well👍

Exactly what I was going to say. When i did a lot of testing when I used to play a lot of call of duty I found the game felt better with the lower polling rates. The higher I went the more it effected the game and my scores in a negative way.

Yup, I did a video on the 3070 recently and found it to easily average 150fps at 1440p!

got 3080 and want to add 5800x3d to that (currently on r5 3600) ... I think it will be good combo.

I ran the 5800x3d + 3080 for 8 months and I can say it's a beatiful combination! 5800x3d runs 3080 to its max with 0 problems. The 5800x3d can drive up to a 3090ti/6950xt in warzone 2, so anything up to that will always be full GPU usage or nearly full.

@Beefy Tech thats good news, thanks for the response homie have a good one

Yup. I pushed 5800x3d to its max after this video and got about 15-20more fps with a -30 undervolt., but no cigar. Hoping 7950x3d improves the gpu usage in wz2

@@Beefy-Tech Yeah I'm waiting patiently for those to pop out instead of just slapping a 13900k in my main rig. Hopefully they're as good as the 5800x3D is!

Hello! In MSI afterburner you have to enter the general settings and enable Voltage control, and enabled force constant voltage

@@Beefy-Tech Thanks!

5800x3d will drive up to a 3090ti/6950xt in warzone 2. Remember, warzone 2 is one of the most cpu bottlenecked games out there, so if it runs wz2 ir runs anything. If you plan to move to 40 series or 50 series without needing a upgrade, I recommend going straight to AM5 with the 7800x3d (which comes out april) or any other 7000x3d cpu, and a kit of ddr5 6000-6200mhz ram. If u wanna do the easiest upgrade for up to a 3090ti/6950xt 5800x3d is perfect and much cheaper.

@@Beefy-Tech TYSM dude! I appreciate the help! Is the faster ram going to be more important when running the 7800x3D?

@@AshtonsPTW I do not know yet, but I will test it day 1. I bought a ddr5 kit that can do 6800mhz cl34, but also 6200mhz cl28, meaning I should be able to test what affect ram has once I receive the 7000x3d cpu.

@@AshtonsPTW 5800X3D wasn't that picky about memory speeds because of the large cache. You could do with cheaper 3200MHZ CL16. It will be interesting to see if the same thing applies to 7800X3D. Generally about 6000MHz is the sweet spot for AMD 70 series.

@@Beefy-Tech good info again! Subscribed

I have the 4080 and have no problems doing 2k at 165hz. 4090 at 2k even ultrawide, the 4090 is overkill. You should get a 13900k/7800x3d and a 4k monitor or swap for a 4080 and some cash your way

@@GregoryShtevenshwhat about 4070 ti super

@genlongtsang1093 they're excellent cards from what I hear. Again really all you'd need for 1440p

@@GregoryShtevensh i play at 4k can 4070 ti super play at 4k with 5800x3d?

It'd work perfectly together! Around that 3090/4070ti/3090ti mark you will find the 5800x3d to be the perfect pair

@@Beefy-Tech can i take for this ryzen 7 5800x RTX 4080 ?

@@kd-fv1jq 5800x would be too slow, 5800x3d would be perfect

@@Beefy-Tech yes i mean 5800x3d perfect :)

@@Beefy-Techwhat about 5800x3d 4070 ti super at 4k?

That I'm not sure, settings and how everything is set up makes the whole difference🤔

Thats very impressive for a 7 year old cpu !

Best thing you can do is switch to 7900x3d/7950x3d, ull see the best results for least amount of effort that way.

1000hz is fine, no need to go lower. I used a 4000hz polling rate mouse (razer viper pro v2) and just showed its not Worth using in warzone. I use the 4000hz polling rate in gpu bound games.

Hey, I think ull definitely benefit from the upgrade, especially since you already have bdie ram. In alazrah the 5800x3d is 180-220fps capable, so it'd fit the 3090ti perfectly.

@@Beefy-Tech I installed a 5800x3d yesterday and noticed I’m totally GPU bound in Warzone Caldera right now. I’d have to say my lows are definitely higher and frames are more consistent. Need more time to test though.

Definitely. I think both 7900xt and xtx are great aslong as you get a good deal on them👍

😂hahaha

@@nigeldekker1074 Only games that don't die from it are, Valorant, CSGO and Overwatch "2" all 3 games that I don't play anymore

I did do a short 4K test with forza at extreme and dying light 2 on high, its one of my newer videos. At 4k very few games will make a 4090 hit below 60fps, only ones I know off are cyberpunk and hogwarts legacy atm.

@@Beefy-Tech yeah would still be a nice video buddy. btw there are more 60fps 4090 games like dead space remake and some more. btw check out the video "force-enabling resizable bar on nvidia gpus | rebar on vs off". some games don't use rebar unless forced and that gives a good fps boost. you can work this knowledge into your videos.

@@roflcopter3625 good to know, I'll check it out and make sure to use forced from now on👍

I believe every resolution has its purpose at the moment 1080p has been that Esports crazy high fps+ crazy high monitor Refresh rates...but I believe the 4090 makes 1440p become the new Esports resolution, and makes 4K the new "sweet spot" rather than 1080p being for Esports and 1440p being the sweet spot! Ofc, this only applies to 4090 as it's overkill in every aspect. Bit imagine e in 2 years from now how a 5070 will be able to match a 4090, at half the price, it'll be the new normal soon!

@@Beefy-Tech I cant wait for 35C summer to enjoy fruits of overbuilt GPU cooler in proper case. I buy HW for the goals and 4090 is going to run strong at 1440p for few generations even with UE5 games with nanite and other performance sucking tech. Later on I am going to reduce details and rely more on DLSS to keep good framerate. I dont upgrade till I get at least double in-game performance to justify the cost.

I don't think you will have any issues because cpu bottleneck is to do with cpu throughput. Unless you run sim racing and use all 4k monitors simultaneously in said game, I think the bottleneck will be 4090. Easiest way to tell if u have a cpu bottleneck is to check out your gpu usage while playing a game you know to be gpu demanding... let's say you are playing fh5 and are seeing 85% gpu usage, then it's likely your cpu can't throughput enough fps to satisfy the 4090 (but very unlikely on your setup).

@@Beefy-Tech Yes you are right. I did some checkup using MSI After Burner to monitor the GPU usage. While running 12288 x 2160, it did hit 99% mark most of the time, occasionally it drops to 85% for 1 second. Well explain and great channel. subscribed

now im with 5800x3d and 6900xt what polling rate i must use?now i have 1000.do you think i must chance to 500?

game optimization

5800x3d will always have greater performance for games than 5950x

@@quizconhecimentosgerais-qu3164i need to get 5800x3d

5950x is the problem unfortunately. The 4090 is significantly too strong for a 5950x. Infact even a 7950x3d running perfectly often doesn't max out a 4090 at 1440p. The best thing you can do is unfortunately upgrade. Easiest upgrade would be to the upcoming 7800x3d👍

​@Beefy Tech 5700x and 4090 getting low gpu usage at 4k what cpu should I go for ? Will 5900x or 5800x3d make a difference? Is 7700x worth it either?

I think with a 4080 the 5800x3d at 1440p will only very occasionally have a slight bottleneck. The only culprit you should worry about is warzone 2 as even on 6950xt I'd see the gpu usage occasionally drop in certain parts of the map. But if you want a simple plug and play upgrade that'll net insane gains, 5800x3d is your best option no questions asked. If you get a 5800x3d, run PBO2 tuner with like -25 offset all cores (which actually helps performance a lot) and the 4080 would be at near 100% usage in 95% of games out there.

@@Beefy-Tech I agree, I will buy the 5800x3d thanks for the tip about PBO2. One more question about how the RAM affects it, is it better to go fast, say 4000cl16, or hunt for a lower latency 3800cl15 or even cl14 with 4 RAM stick i think its easier to go for latency IMC maybe cant handle 4x8@4000mhz. It is possible that Nvidia has problems with driver overhead in dx12 titles, the CPU suffers a lot because of it, there has already been a lot of talk about it, I hope they will solve it soon. Anyway, thank you very much for the advice.

@@sjuric2435 best option. For ram is a 2x16 kit at 4000mhz cl16 or cl17 or cl18 To be SURE it's B-die, try go for kits that have the secondary timings equal to the CL timing. Such as 16-16-16 / 17-17-17 / 18-18-18.

@@sjuric2435 also I meant to buy 4000mhz and if it's not stable at 1:1 just take it lower to 3900 or 3800 and tune timings

@@Beefy-Tech I already have Gskill FlareX 4x8 3200mhz cl14 b-die kit now they are overclocked to 3800 cl16 at very low voltage of 1.38v together with r5 3600. As you say performance wise dual rank is better 2x16 dual rank kit or 4x8 single rank that work in dual rank if you have 4 single rank sticks and all ram slot pouplated. I will push them harder when I buy the 5800x3d, my RAM has more room but my r5 3600 cant handle more I think Zen3 has better IMC. Thank you for your reply.

I plan to play both 4k 240hz and 1440p 360hz myself, but indeed I'm also waiting for the 7950x3d before making the upgrade to either monitor. Good choice of cpu 👍

Me2

Rough to tell to be honest. I am uncertain of what would be enabled on your end. Here's the thing, I own a 5600x, 5800x3d and 13700k. With 13700k and a ddr5 6800mhz kit and a 5.6ghz oc, 13700k is 5-10FPS faster then 5800x3d (even when 5800x3d has the UV applied). Meaning that setting for setting, a 13700k winning by a bit in warzone would make sense. As for a 5950x being significantly faster, I am not sure. I used to own a 5900x prior to 5800x3d and the 5800x3d is definitely faster then that one, but I guess it comes down to if you are using AMD FSR or DLSS, how late in the match you record the data, and what part of the map you are on. As an example, by police station near al mazraah city, I see 240-260FPS, and by Sawah village it's more like 200-220. The later in a match the data is recordered, the higher the FPS as there's less people on the map, and on warzone BR, the gas covers the map over time also increasing fps. But if you are getting 250+fps no problem, don't change your settings, cause you are clearly doing something right 🤣👍👍👍

I too am extremely curious of how well the 7950x3d will work. I unfortunately am in a situation where I can't wait for 7800x3d and have to get the 7950x3d on release, so I hope it'll work exactly as intended and run crazy good.

MSI x570s Ace Meg with wifi

By the look of it even a 13900KS with a ddr5 8200mhz ram kit bottlenecks a 4090 to 80-90% usage. Currently, no cpu can run a 4090 unbottlenecked in warzone 2.

@@Beefy-Tech I saw a video of someone playing warzone 2 in 4k with the 4090 and 12900k and his gpu usage stayed in the high 90%.

@@yazannajjar1719 I just noticed he said at 4k. My bad, but yes it depends on CPU, at 4k you can mostly have a full gpu bottleneck depending on ingame settings, but as you have mentioned, a 12900k is bare minimum...as ull see even that cpu often struggle to be a consistent 100% gpu usage. Probably a 13900k will do 100% at 4k when cpu is stock.

@@Beefy-Tech So would you think its not worth an upgrade to the 13900K in that case? In the test I saw a lot of 99% gpu usage which I thought was pretty good and here and there would drop into the lower 90s for a few seconds and head right back up. I am sorry for bombarding you with questions, I just want to make sure I am getting the most out of my 4090, bottlenecking sucks

@@yazannajjar1719 I think if it's a simple change the cpu upgrade for you, it could be worth considering, it just depends what usage you are currently seeing. If at 4k the 4090 gets 99% usage on a 13900k, I'd say it's worthwhile. You should wait for Ryzen 7000x3d though, maybe those end up being faster after all, but it remains to be seen.

U are wrong, imagine wine bottle if we are talking about cpu being its bottle neck it means it limits the flow so to cpu is the weak one.

4080 and 7800x3d. This way, ull be able to keep your platform and only swap out 1 part rather than require a whole system upgrade.

@@Beefy-Tech thanks and keep the great content

What is dsr?

@@daystarcreations Dynamic Super Resolution.

I'm doing a video just on this soon! What's funny is that the cooler the 5800x3d runs, the more stable and good the boost frequency is, meaning with an undervolt it actually performs better!

Just put out a video on 5800x3d undervolting👍

I'd doubt that to be honest. It's quake a game engine from the 90s. Be lucky to be pushing 1 core/ 2 threads above 10% usage. And the 4090 would be doing a lot of the math side so even less CPU usage. Most games even modern, will struggle to push more than 3 cores/ 6 threads. Hell getting more than 30% cpu usage would be really pushing the cpu these days lol. Just the way it is these days.

And on 4090 benchmarks for quake the fps is around 980 fps at 1440 resolution. But the problem is the monitor the fastest 1440hrz monitor is 550 fos so the utter max fps you'll ever get 550 fps any higher and the monitor simply dumps them, you'll never see any of those frames. Using lower end monitors is less fps.

Is it difficult to undervolt the 5800X3D? Could it potentially hurt the CPU?

I think you are fine, I wouldn't upgrade ram on 5800x3d because while you can gain like 10fps, it's a lot of money for 10 fps lol. I would just use PBO2 tuner and undervolt accordingly. You can find guides from Github on how to set up pbo2 tuner 👍

@@Beefy-Tech ok thanks bro, next upgrade x570 rog crosshair VIII hero or b550 rog xe, with nvme gen 4, not graphic card because is very expensive. Now my 2060 for fullhd high refresh rate is good..

5800x3d is the CPU which has the smallest correlation between RAM speed and CPU speed. Its because of the 3d cache. It eases up the strain to the RAM. Its apparent from all benchmarks Ive ever seen, so I take it for a fact. It surprised me as well.

Unfortunately yes, even with max overclocked 13900ks + ddr5 8200mhz you will still only run 4090 at 80-90% usage in warzone at 1440p. Framechasers on youtube has that exact setup and it's about 35 FPS faster then a 5800x3d.

Does the 7950x bottleneck as well with the 4090? How about the 7900xtx?

@@ceuser3555 7950x does seem to also bottleneck 4090 from what I have seen. The 7950x + 7900xtx combo I'm not entirely sure of as i don't have those parts available.

@@Beefy-Tech thanks.

@@Beefy-Tech The 7900XTX actually outperforms the 4090 in WZ2 even at 4k. There is something about that game that loves AMD GPUs.

Beautiful setup! That TV must be a dream to play on! Try Phasmophobia on that rig, you will feel very immersed xD

@@Beefy-Tech I will. Steam?

@@Beefy-Tech ahhh… nice! Not bragging but I have a 7.1.4 Home Theater so horror games are a huge hit with me. Callisto Protocol and Dead Space remake have the best sound I’ve heard. I’ve been doing Home Theater for a long time

@@m4nc1n1 the 4k 85 inch TV + home theater surround setup is as good as it gets for those type of games. If you like dead space definitely try Alien Isolation, although you probably have already xD

Haven't actually tested it. I tried to not do games I don't actually play, but I'll get more games and familiarize myself with them to be able to do accurate tests in them👍

7800X3D/7950X3D OR 13900K + DDR5 7600mhz + Z790 Apex/Tachyon Motherboards.

@@Beefy-Techare these cpus still bottlenecking it, even if it may be slightly less?

I’m an nvidia guy but play cod/wz. It’s crazy how the Radeon cards perform in that title. I reckon the 6800xt would be on par with the 4090.

@@qubes8728 no it does not all CPUs in market are weak af that,s why fool areas buying 4090 for 1440p and complaining about bottleneck lol (づ￣ 3￣)づ you need i9 13900ks at 6ghz all core then 4090 can stretch it,s legs at 1440p

@@djsahilking3807 regardless of cpu the amd cards own this title. 3070ti owner.

I just uploaded a video on this Exact setup! No joke, using the same cl32 6400mhz ram kit even xD, but I overclocked it to 6800mhz cl34. I think ull enjoy the video, overall insane results from a pc that costs as much as a 4090😂😂😂

@@djsahilking3807 no complaints on 4090 myself, my cpu's are too slow to run it fully, but getting 7950x3d in hopes to at least match a 13900ks at full overclock, but we will see

Unfortunately those gpu's can't actually run games such as warzone at 240hz 1440p as of season 2. The bare minimum gou for 1440p 240hz consistenly is either a 7900xt or 4080. To be fair, this does only apply to warzone, but being the main game I play I thought I'd mention that

13900k is easily superior, but what ram and overclock you have on it makes all the difference...I pushed my 13700k to 5.6ghz p cores, and because I only had ddr5 6000 ram, it was still 10 fps slower then 5800x3d. I bought a kit of 6400mhz, tuned to 6800mhz cl34, and now 13700k is 10fps faster then 5800x3d in warzone 2 (don't know how this scales in other games, only tested in warzone)

@@Beefy-Tech My 13900k couldnt reach 5.6 ghz lol. meanwhile my old 13700k can do 5.7 and 5.8 with reasonable temps (6.0 with TVB was possible). Even at 5.8 the 13700k was slower than 5.5ghz 13900k by around 10-15% in mw2 and warzone 2.

Man to get 13700k to 5.6 on p cores I had to do like 1.46 volts and a lot of googling lmao.

@@Beefy-Tech I thought my 13900k was a dud with need 1.38V for 5.6. My 13700k was able to do 5.8 at 1.4V LLC6 (droops to 1.359V under R23).

Hello, that's a great cpu but unfortunately not enough for a 4090. I think your best option is the new 7000x3d cpu's. I am personally waiting for them too in hopes it's enough to drive call of duty warzo e 2 to at least 80-90% usage on the 4090, but I'm pretty sure it still won't be enough to use the 4090 at 99% when at 1440p competitive settings in warzone 2,but it will be very close. I myself will get and test them specifically on warzone after they release, but until official reviews are out and independent testing is done on warzone 2, it's hard to tell. Om multiplayer mw2, 5800x3d with 1000hz polling rate mouse stays at 90%ish average usage, so a 7800x3d will be using 4090 100% in multiplayer for sure.

@@Beefy-Tech true I do play on a 2k Monitor 240hz and it’s so annoying that I get like 190 fps everything low

@@Haloreach66850 a 7800x3d or 7950x3d would definitely put you above 240fps, maybe even higher, but we will have to see.

@@Beefy-Tech Do you think the 5800x3d is still better for highest fps than the 5900x and 5950x even at 4k?

@@exoticspeedefy7916 I think so. If you game it'll just always be the better choice over the other 2 options. I had a 5900x prior to the 5800x3d and the FPS difference that 3D cache offers is absolutely nuts.

I have updated msi afterburner since this video to reflect absolutely everything regarding necessary data. To clarify for this benchmark, cpu sits at 30-40% most of the time, never spikes above or below. The bottleneck comes directly from the cpu throughput (Maximum fps it can achieve) being much lower then a 4090s within warzone 2, and it wasn't linked to the CPU usage here, but I do realize now I shouldof included it to begin with, I just forgot, and fixed it in later video👍

This testing was done with cod on a 7000/5000mb WD black ssd with included heatsink, and the recording was saved on secondary nvme which is a gen 3 2500/2000 ssd.

@@Beefy-Tech wd black is dram less though isn't it. KC3000/Fury renegade might give better results.

You are good, no bottlenecks there, u can drive up to a 3070 or 3060 no issue👍

Pretty sure in warzone 2 it will bottleneck a 4090👍

I haven't actually, they destroyed the performance in Season 4.5 so all previous testing wouldn't even be compatible :(

I meant to say GPU usage, my bad, and also during this video my overlay was bugged out and showed cp usage to be 1-4% so i excluded it I fixed it all in later videos and added all propper information labeled correctly.

Sadly not one of those cpu's is enough. I can really only recommend a 7800x3d or a 13900k with ddr5 7600mhz, anything else is too little for the 4090.

@@Beefy-Tech Yeah, I can see that, the 13900K is way too hot and expensive tbh, I might get a 7800X3D or a 7900X3D instead.

@@MrVicho13 that's a good choice. Yeah I have a 13700k that when overclocked draws 230 watts... the 7950x3d which destroys it in performance, does so at 90 watts😂

Not at all. 1440p is the perfect match for the 4090. Most games max out a 4090 at 1440p like its absolutely nothing!

@@Beefy-Tech which rtx 4090 brand you recommend?

@@jomariquizon7886 not one in specific tbh, aslong as you like it it'll be fine! But if I was to be looking for brands I personally like...probably Gigabyte Auros Master 4090 or Asus STRIX white edition 4090.

@@Beefy-Tech thanks