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Iron Guardsman: We are the most disciplined of all regiments. We beat our own citizens back on Mordia. Death Korps Guardsman: Beat them? We nuked our own home planet when they tried to rebel. Cadia stands, Mordia obeys, Krieg remembers.
*Wall of Iron Guardsman promptly BLAMs you for misspelling Mordian* Jokes aside, that's a pretty good way of putting it. Wonder what could be used for other regiments. Armageddon endures. Attila rides. Vostroya marches.
I'd watch a sitcom taking place inside of a bunker in the middle of an Ork, Tyranid or Chaos infested planet with the main characters being a Maccabian Janissary, a Death Korps Kriegsman and a Mordian Iron Guardsman.
The Death Korps Guardsman would bayonet charge out of the bunker (actual lore for why they have Comissars), because they rely of Comissars to keep them all from bayonet charging into tanks and titans.
I remember reading somewhere that commissars assigned to the iron guard have a tenancy to get written up for insufficient attention to dress and deportment, with the complaint then filed with the regiment's morale officer... AKA the Commissar.
"Sir Commissar, I have a complain to hand in." "What is is, Guardsman?" "Sir Commissar, I have to report that you, Sir Commissar, are not wearing your hat straight and your bolt-pistol is insufficently cleaned, still showing scorchmarks from the target practice yesterday."
@@dasirrlicht5415 "Very good guardsman, that reminds me, I was to inform you that todays target practice has been rescheduled" *BLAM* "Anything else?" "Sir Commissar, I have to report that you, Sir Commissar, are wearing a bloodstained uniform"
that brings to question why they have a commissar in the pick. the lore discribes them as totally not needed it and since commissars are not techinically in the chain of command would they take orders
I would hazzard a guess and say that if their Command has ordered the Commissar attached to them, then they will obey them as a Superior Officer. Especially if they're being used as a Police Force.
while the Mordian Iron Guard and maccabian janissaries are busy fighting each other, the Death Korps roll up, pacify the planet and then execute both regiments for incompetence
Best recipe for defending a fortress: Mordian Iron Guard, Maccabian Janissaries, Sororitas, Kriegers, and Imperial Fists. That wall ain't ever gonna break.
Those Janissaries will probably go on their own crusade against the sororitias purely because they are women. Then they will look at the mordians and everyone else as below them...... That wall would get torn the fuck down from the inside out
Essentially only reason why i'm interested to hear about 40k. Dont get me wrong 40k sounds interesting, but its the combination of 40k+arch that makes it worth while time investment.. heck GW should hire arch to clean up the story line and start writing it! He might know more than about the lore than anyone in GW actually does and bloody hell that would be awesome story telling!
So I'm guessing that Rogal Dorn, the most uptight bastard in the most uptight chapter didn't had a simply stick up his arse. No a stick would be too flexible. Instead he probably took a Mordian Iron Guard, with its standard issue adamantium ass-rod, and used it in the place of the stick. Yep, that sounds legit to me.
The Mordian has a psychotic breakdown after spending hours out of a line, the Maccabian sits and prays, and the Death Korps Guardsman bayonet charging a titan.
@Prefect Oxus she shot her much older half brother in the balls, with her toy bow for. He was yelling kill space Marines and Orks are the best (the only Warhammer 40k he's ever come across is an old PS3 games his daddy played) Death to the Xeno lover
Better way to put it is that they have actually executed their own commissars for lack of discipline or cowardice or failure to lead by example, but if it is a lesser offensive the commissar will just face some form of disciplinary action. Yes, they are that extreme which is why the soldiers of the Imperium are thanking the Emperor that they got commissars instead of Mordians. Overall the Mordians, like the Death Korps, are one of those groups that don't need a commissar for the usual reason but instead to keep their quirks in check and prevent them from fighting other regiments. For the former point the Commissar is supposed to prevent the Death Korps from charging at inopportune times and they stick to the battle plan, for the Mordians it is they follow a changing battle plan and move positions when it will be most opprotune. For the regiment fighting well picture these stuck up folks in the same room as the Catachans. Yeah, won't be pretty.
They'd make poor Commisars do to their lack of flexible tactics or Command experience. Imagine it this way, think how effect would Blood Angels be if their only object after orbital strike via drop pod was to defend the heavy bolter servitor on the drop pod? Not very. That would be an Iron Guard Commisar in charge of a Stormtrooper regiment, like the Elysians or the Cadians. You need to taylor your tactics to the battlefield scenario to be an effective officer in the Astra Militarum.
Elysian Kentarchy except for a collision course like that you would need an Adeptus Custodes to keep the Catachan and the Mordians from killing each other, as both regiments are notorious for eliminating Commissars.
@@mr.badguy8500 look at the kinds of jobs Catachan Devils do, Commissars aren't built or needed for that. as for the Mordians, we've already established that they make the most staunch of Commissars go ".....fucking prudes, will you lighten up?!" it would be counterproductive to even bother with commissariat details in regiments already known to be THIS loyal and effective.
@@bladestormviking the only reason you'd have a Commissar present is so the unit doesn't begin fighting with other units. If you had a regiment of Catachans and Death Korps Troopers in the same camp as a bunch of Mordians, it would get very bloody very quickly.
A Random Crusader - Deus Vult fellow crusader it has been some time since but were you not leading the fleadlings during the siege of vraak you really turned those weaklings into real soldiers
All hail the blessed Death Korps of Krieg, may the emperor shine brightly on these the bravest of Guardsmen the Imperium has to offer and most loyal too.
I'd love to read a book from the perspective of a Cadian commissar who has been put in command of a unit made of Iron Guardsmen, Cadian Shock Troopers, Death Korps of Krieg Infantrymen, Catachans and Maccabian Janisaries.
Arch you are the Best. Hands down, on delivery, voice and accuracy. I could listen to you all day. I wish you could do a Masterpiece Theater once a week and read us a chapter from any book on the Skaven, your voices would beat any voice acters! Vote Up if you want this!!
Putting an Ultramarine at the head of a regiment of Mordian Iron Guard might be interesting. The Ultrasmurf does everything by the Book and Mordians obey every command. I know it's basically heresy, but it kind of might just work?
I honestly agree. Guilliman could pull that off easily given that he can think as a lesser man can in order to understand their limits and capabilities. He would know when the Iron Guard would break before they did and could utilize them to their full potential.
It's kind of strange that their cities are prone to heat problems... On the dark side of a planet that doesn't rotate properly. You'd think it would be the exact opposite with FREEZING being the issue, not heat.
Even for a fun re-watch during the quarantine, I still nearly choked to death on that specific part of *_"Infantrymen's Uplifting toilet papers"._* Dammit, Arch.
okay, something bothering me for decades now : since Mordian witnessed a Chaos invasion, under strict Inquisition rule it should have been under Exterminatus order. But the 5th IG codex does as if Mordian Iron Guard went on unaffected ... - is the Exterminatus order something "of the past" in the 40th millenium, as higher ups in the Imperium realized it was highly ineffective ? - was Mordian in fact wiped out ? - did the inquisition "save" the IG and brainwash it for further use ? ( I remember somewhere that only valuable Astartes can be brainwashed instead of being terminated after having fought the Chaos - but this was so stupid I couldn't believe it) - or is it simply because Matt Ward ?
@@NetMoverSitan but even then the space worlds prevented the inquisition from doing that the first time and the people saved by the space wolves lived to tell the tale about and know the nature of chaos.
@@NetMoverSitan They’re not gonna start that shit up again last time they had to deal with the space wolves now they have an active Primark who would more than likely tear their heads off and shit down their throats while hiring a dark Elder to keep them alive and make them into living meat toilets
An Exterminatus is the last option - and Mordia was practically worthless economically at that point and strategically useless as a staging area for another advance because of its particular climate on the planet. Death planets make bad places to gather large forces, as half are dead before the last squad can even land. Accordingly, I assume that the Exterminatus bombs, their transport to Mordia with the corresponding fleet and the battle in orbit to be able to drop them would have cost the Inquisition more than Mordia and the interruption of chaos would have been worth at that point. Perhaps there were simply no suitably equipped ships in the vicinity and they had to be requisitioned first - although in the meantime the Iron Guard had already solved the problem.
they will need the commissar especially when dealing with eldar etc who can make a battle fluid etc thus throwing the mordian iron guard off balance. they will need the commissars and others to allow the iniciative and indavigual moves to keep the mordians on track.
What Venneroth said + some planets were once quite pleasant but the Age of Strife and/or Horus Heresy wrecked them for example Necromunda (Arch got that wrong as he often does, after the demons it was pretty much a hellhole, then got worse. No pleasant phase between.) and Talarn for example.)
My favourite example of that is a lost siege, where the defenders put on their best clothes, stuffed their pockets with money and charged after setting fire to the castle.
Ha ha, yes, I'm excited for regimental doctrines and how insane Russes are going to be... although the guard seems to be in the cheese limelight, the Ta'u/Eldar of 8e, but nevertheless I'm going to have so much fun blasting away people with good old fashioned ballistics and flashlights.
Can't say how many times I've watched this video. Keep coming back to it years later. My favorite kind of guardsmen combined with Archs unique style are an absolute win.
Der amerikanische Judenjäger I know. I mostly just give Krieg shit because of the annoying amount of fan-wank that goes on for them XD I get the appeal of them, though, especially in a universe like 40k. I just kind of laugh because it almost seems like Krieg wastes lives for its own sake at times. Imagine what those stone-cold motherfuckers could do if they weren't so damn grimderp. Granted, wasting human life is pretty much the national pastime of the Imperium as a whole, but the Kriegers take it to a level that is rather silly, even by Imperial standards.
Kriegs way of negotiations: We do not have time to deal with your rebelion. Orcs will invade any day now. So you have one hour to discuss your unconditional surrender and then we will gas everything from here to mountains.
That ferret bit was hilarious and I was barely able to hold in my laughs. Also with all of the Regiments not getting along, I can imagine most of them beating the crap out of each other, whilst maybe the Karskin, Steel Legionaire, and Jungle Fighter are sitting nearby watching this unfold.
The Napoleonic armies of the 40th millennium, quite literally and figuratively! :D Catachan Jungle Fighters, Armaggedons Steel Legion & Death Guard of Krieg for life,
Cadia..yah..space hobos now...wait...that means...HOLY FUCKIG TERRA....Cadia is only a short couple of light years Warp jumps, like 4 months from the Albion System in the Ultima Segmentum, that is my home terf, oh shit was getting more refugees, just what the sector needs, more people! For some reason, that side of the galaxy has a very strong connection with the light of the Astronomican
And defending is the Guards. better equipment, better armour and hold the title Elite. while i do agree Krieg are good not everyone of there soldiers holds the title Elites. while the Mordians soldier do, the side would heavily favour the Mordians on all the tables. except numbers, Krieg at least has that going for them.
You know what would be even more dangerous than Mordian Iron Guard? Mordian civilians. Hungry, dirty, ragged, they still have balls to rise from time to time. And against whom? Against forementioned Iron Guard! Recruit those civvies into Guard by promising them 2 meals a day and you have yourself an army.
Just Wanted to say that your videos are what finally got me to take the dive into the huge library of 40k games! I may not always agree with some of the more real life political opinions in videos you've posted in the past, but damned if I'm not excited every time I see a new video pop up in my notifications!
I know just the place that could use a company of Morian Iron Guard. Gotham city. Within a couple weeks of them stationed there Batman would either be jobless or dead. Probably both.
that until the crooks find out the morian weakness and go for there officers first etc make it fluid on them and then pick them off one by one. though a better place that can use them is the southern border and the sanctuary cities run by the regressive democrats and the left let them lose on those places and in weeks they will make those cities counties and states red in every way including political and the southern border for a long while safe and secured though at the price of the UN and international outrage and America's enemies using this for there propaganda campagins. unless you sick the morians on them to shut them up that is.
and food and electricity? well you get up like at 4 or so in the morning all days also internet its cheap because its own by the government its the worst also acquiring basic necessity goods its the problem since they are so expensive all of your money goes to those expenses an you have no more u can not save for any thing else and if u have its an o shit button also if u have money in the bank the government can take it "for the good of the people"
Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but one other fun thing is that the Commissars find an assignment to a Mordian Iron Guard regiment to be a boring assignment, and occasionally harrowing, in the style of a Yakov Smirnoff joke. "In regular Imperial Guard, Commissar shoots you for cowardice. In Mordian Iron Guard, YOU shoot COMMISSAR for cowardice!"
Mordian is a key point why WH40K makes so little sense. Let';s ignore the fact the galaxy is literally going to hell, Mordian is a planet that no one would set down roots on unless they had an exit strategy. More I'm guessing there is more than ONE planet in the system they could exploit for resources. So they would not be so impoverished and could take care of themselves. Planets like Macragge would be a general rule not an weird "Mary Sue-ish" exception as a world that can make ends meet on its own.
Roboute Guilliman, You build, maintain and defend a Vast Galaxy spanning Civilization and you really don't know how that works? You have a Million planets, in a galaxy of 400B stars each star having at least one planet) each with at least million people. That is one trillion right there. Keep in mind most of these planets have 100s of millions even billions of people. You are looking at Guadrillions of citizens almost entirely by default. In the IoM Life is cheap because there is just so much of it.
Sorry I was thinking of something else. You have a hive city that covers roughly half the planet, you can easily have trillion people. A population study done showing every human alive today on Earth, about 7.5B people, could be packed into a single city, as dense as New York City, about the size of Texas. NYC is pretty built up and not a HIVE city. You could easily have a city the size of North America as dense a London or Tokyo and still not reach one Trillion people. The biggest problem ins that a LOT of the IoM is just really poorly managed. You either have palatial worlds like the Realm of Ultramar, or slum worlds like Mordia or basically any other world that has Hive cities or is itself a Hive world. Holy Terra seems to skirt this but the planetary population is pretty well managed.
You got to remember that alot of these planets where settled during the golden age of technology. When it would have been easy to supply it and it may have even had an actual purpose.
