+ Most Humane legion, they even talk to fellow citizens! + Making own artifact weaponry instead of rely on forge world too hard + Knowing good support is key to win, you know that when you play mmo pub. + Known to favor heavy weaponry & equipment, terminator FTW + If you like charcoal black skin red eye glowing space marine with dragon theme green armors. - Numbers get wrecked, only enough to provide support. - Your primarch was last known to be inside of a big bang of waaagh! energy. pray hard. - The lore/story of salamander army is little. Probably had to wait for Vulkan returns. - No good rules yet for August 2017. Please steal Ultramarines one, since Salamanders do follow the "rule book". And notify your opponent before hand.
I listen to these more than once great quality and great content as allways. I don't play warhammer used to play necromunda in the 90s but read the black library books still. these chapter lore videos are one of my most watched videos on youtube. really wanted to say thank you for the hours of enjoyment
This is just speculation but I believe that Vulkan and his Salamander were good friends with Magnus and his Thousand Sons due to Vulkan seemingly acceptance of Psychers and Magnus helping the Salamander return to Nocturne. Plus the combat doctrines of the two legions do work well together in a sense. What's your take on this? :o
I know I'm not Micheal, but my take is that Vulkan wouldn't have been 100% loyal or chummy with Magnus as he was still overtly loyal to his father, but I do believe he wouldn't take action against Magnus, due to loving him as a brother.
Pyroskies tactically the sons and the salamanders would be a devastating combo. Walls of promethium followed by ceramite crunching close quarters combat oriented salamanders supported by pure psychic domination and prescience?
If Guilliman ever wishes to do another Imperium Secundus, I personally would love to see Vulkan be the New Emperor. That or if it is to be more like a Triumvirate, add in Lion El'jonson. The three would make for what I see a very balanced governance. I've always admired the Salamanders from a cultural and practical standpoint.
True, that is where Guilliman and his knowledge in State Craft comes in. That is why I'd like to see an Imperial Triumvirate with Guilliman and Vulkan on it together, they would balance each other out quite well, as would the Lion with them too. Just saying though, it more than unlikely though.
My favorite chapter! I also like the symbolism of the salamander meaning someone or something that has passed through the fires of conflict unharmed and to become stronger then before, knowing that the actual lizard-like salamander can survive a fire briefly.
Great Video Micheal really well done i play the Salamanders in both 30K and 40K and its just for the lore you can beat them as hard as you like but you have to kill every last one of them to beat them and they just keep surviving much like their Primarch. I also love how they care more for the people of the Imperium rather then them selfs.
Also Micheal an interesting Character from the Heresy era is Nemetor Commanding the 15th Reconnaissance Company he was Vulkans friend and died in the Primarchs arms during the Drop Site Massacre.
josh thomas-moore Nemetor is interesting, but unfortunately we know very little about him besides what happened on Istvaan. If there was more to his story I'd have covered him, but as I didn't want to do a double miscellaneous I had to prioritise I'm afraid
I've listened to all your Legion stories and I can say with honestly that after learning about all of the Legions, The Salamanders are my favourite along with Vulkan being my favourite Primarch. Fierce and hardy warriors with magnificent and brutal weapons and armour.
Thehairysoap (lord eriner of the word bearers appears) *the glorious fruition of a plan almost ten thousand years in the making...two of the most powerful chaos lords together at last,soon we shall sally forth from the eye and retake our lost glory!*
Nahhh. Papa Vulcano wont come around for something as simple as the Cadian gate falling and unleashing literal hell across the galaxy. "Cadia Gate has been destroyed." *I Sleep* "Civilian Hab-Blocks on Terra destroyed" *REAL SHIT?*
"Selected for their fiery personalities..." Fiery Personalities isn't one of the things that pops in my mind when I think about The Salamanders lol, that said I'm sure they show their true selves when they're only in the presence of their brothers. I know The Salamanders give the warmest hugs of any of the Loyalist Legions/Chapters and unless they're lighting their victims before crushing them in a bear-hug I assume the same can be said for the Traitor Legions too.
Vulkan is kind of an asshole. "here my sons, once you find all my relics, I will return. However, I'm not gonna tell you where they are. Some of them might be beyond the light of the astronomican. Better hope none of them were on Cadia. Good luck nerds."
Honestly I always figured the planned role for the Salamanders was "Rapid Response Force", in terms of Internal Security. Small legion for example, their self reliance leading to superior technology giving the small force an even greater advantage in small engagements than a typical Legio Astartes unit would have. Combined with their own defensive doctrine and where they were fielded. They seem (From what I've seen) to have done a lot more "Anti-Piracy" actions than other legions during the great crusade. Instead of kicking the crap out of orks, fallen humans, minor xenos empires, etc, they were holding the interior of the Imperium, running around smacking down Dark Eldar Pirates, Eldar Corsairs, and Ork Freebootas more or less. Their high discipline combined with Smash Mouth up close and brutal style also fits with these sorts of "Counter Insurgency/Commando Raids" tactics. We also know in terms of Friends, Vulkan had personally crafted one of the greatest melee weapons personally for Horus Lupercal, so I'm sure he had some fondness for the Favored Son if nothing else. I've also seen references that Vulkan was on good terms with Jaghati Khan, though it's very rarely mentioned. Anyway, nice to see some Salamanders getting some love. :) In terms of the "He inherited Perpetualness from the Emperor" thing? Well... the funny thing is I never questioned that the Emperor is a Perpetual. He was kind of defined as one before the word "Perpetual" ever entered the lexicon of 40k lore. The Shamans were described as beings who revived everytime they died. And the Emperor of course made up of all the Shamans, their powers, and their knowledge. So the idea that he somehow wouldn't have this ability never really entered my mind. I mean I know back in the day it was one of the "The Emperor Revives" theories/plans in lore. If he dies, he comes back. Or if the Sensei are sacrificed, he revives. Or if he's sacrificed at the right point the Star-Child in the warp awakens as the God Emperor, etc. All things that since they've tried to nope away because... well... it takes away dramatic tension from the series if we know the answers to key questions/the future after all. But reintroducing Perpetuals in 30k just kind of spat in the face of erasing all the other theories they put out before like Sensei and the Star Child to the point where I think it was intentional and what they wanted to go with. ... then again I think the whole reason they made Ollie Pius a Perpetual in 30k is just so when he shows up in front of Horus, Horus can kill him and prove "I can kill perpetuals!!!" so that it seems like he could kill the Emperor.
That's how the theory goes, but we've never had canon evidence of it. I personally believe they probably are, but as they never showed evidence of it to our knowledge I can't say that they are for sure.
Salamanders are the greatest I believe the teleporter was supposed to take him to the Emperor but the ruin storm and that weird device that gave ultramar a psuedo astronomicon. so he was teleported there. that's my guess.
More than willing to die, retreating not an option, taking on overwhelming odds? I feel like the Kreig and the Catachans must have been inspired by those guys. The more i hear about the Salamanders, the more they become my favorite legion.
Really love your channel! What is your personal opinion of Vulcan if I might ask? Do you like how his legion is kinda humanists? I love the Salamanders.
Great rundown. Virtually all other videos I've seen on the Salamanders make glaring mistakes about their lore and use terrible artwork. Neither was done in this video. Again, good work!. Where can I find the pictures at 10:38 and 7:20 to download?
All the artwork that I could reference is linked in the description - hopefully the short descriptions I left were enough to help you navigate! Glad you enjoyed the video.
TophatPenguins from what I remember, that paint scheme was "old fluff", and then later adapted to represent the camo scheme they used during the raid on terra before the great crusade.
i bow mt head to Vulkan...one of my favourite black dudes of all time. could the reason the emperor kept them secret be because he knew about Vulkan being more or less immortal?
were the pyroclast really a terminator force? as the forgeworld models are in power armor. Also Skatar'var didn't die on Traoris, he died on Isstvan V ( source black library noval Vulkan lives)
firedrakes were the terminators and pyroclasts the power armoured ones, at least from the miniature lines that is...similar named units so easy mistake to make.
W8 what i dont get it there is an ongoing event like real time events of when shits are about to happen? Is there like a book series i have to follow or what? Sorry i'm just like new to this
There is no set series; I drew my information from all sorts of sources and books. As for what I'm doing and the running order of the videos, that's just me playing a character and contextualising my upload schedule - nothing to worry about!
Hmm, I was thinking about the last six Legions to go - Dark Angels, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Alpha Legion and Death Guard, right? I must be forgetting something, I didn't think any of those planets were nuked until the Heresy/post-heresy. Using the description fatalistic just screams Death Guard at me.
What I like about the vast WH40K legions is that each legion can customize there battalions colors & design symbols to the basic 40K space marine tech armour that do make each legion unit very distinctive amongst the vast legions there, just like the mid evil earth era Roman Legion times, but this time in the 40K universe there utilizing hi pwr'd bolter/laze cannon KILLER HI TECH weaponry that's thrown in with there pwr swords, pwr clubs, huge pwr meat cleavers, pwr hammers & shields, & Damm there Hella brutal there, he'll no sissys allowed in the 40K in any warrior class of any stripe.
Not much. Most of the knowledge I already knew. You didn't touch apon the conquest 1-5-4-4 one of the most notable conquest of my chapter. You didn't explore the kinship Vulkan had with Ferrus Manus. On istvaan 5 my forbearers primarily fought the Death guard and Iron Warriors. Captain Xa'ven a semi notable Salamander who helped discovered a map of the traitor fleets and some attack plans. To be honest some of my complaints can be classified as nitpicking but you didn't make a bad vid on your part your quality was as per usual good. I just think I knew to much of my chapter to fully enjoy the vid. Unlike some of the other legion broadcast you've done.
The Eternal Chronicler I admit, 1-5-4-4 is something I wish I'd covered, but this was already the longest Legion video pretty much. I'm glad the video met my usual standard, but I'm sorry you didn't learn much (even if you knew a lot already and consider it nitpicking, that's no excuse for me).
