40K - The Importance of Lore & How People Don't Understand Warhammer 40,000 

I am sure many people will start screaming at me for this video. Also no Pios were mistreated during the realization of this video. Not too much at least. Also I almost had an heat stroke because of the heat in the room I was recording from, because I needed to turn off everything to do my voice lines.

Finally some one calling out MajorKill and Bricky on their inaccuracies.

As a writer, I have mountains of notes just for one story. You have to build a world carefully.

"An open mind is like a fortress, it's gates open and unbarred." - The Imperium

This is so Italian, that my Blood Angels are painting themselves🤌

The argument that "this is fantasy, therefore we can change what I want" is rarely a good faith argument. It is usually a debate trick or gotcha to get you to shut up.

I think the reason why lore is so important it's because it gives people more reasons to care about the game and the setting sure Warhammer would probably still sell if it was just a tabletop war game but the Lore definitely increases the value of 40k as intellectual property in general because it's not just stuck being a tabletop war game.

One thing I would add Danny: "The Blood Games were an incredible test of a warrior’s skill and those who could participate in them deserved their accolades. Each game took place on Terra, a live exercise designed to test the defences of the Imperial Palace against assassins. The Custodian Guard used them to constantly assess their skills and seek out weak points in the Emperor’s aegis" - HH Book 42 Garo Another reason the femstodes blood game was crap and lore breaking is that it simply didn't make any sense. The whole point of the Blood Games is to test the defenses of the Imperial Palace. To see how an assassin could manage to gain access. And these tests were done by the Custodes personally. They used their own set of skills to try to infiltrate the Palace. Heck Amon Tauromachian took drugs to stop his heart so he could enter the Palace without the scans sensing him. That's what the Custodes do. They stay on Terra and use their own power to complete the Blood Game. They don't take the easy road by magically trying to teleport a freaking bomb and assassinate the Emperor. They don't go into orbit of Terra and try to force a plan by using other people. Now that I think about it.. it's an Ork plan. This is something only an Ork would think about. There have always been Ork Custodes.

What a lot of people don't understand about 40k ( or Warhammer in general), especially newer fans, is that it is a setting not a narrative. It is a framework from with individual stories can be couched in. The problem with making 40k a narrative (like GW is want to do now) is that "progressing" such a story inevitably means disregarding, dismantling, or outright destroying the framework which initially facilitated it (i.e. resurrecting the Primarchs, inventing the Primaris, waking up all the Necrons, splitting the galaxy in two, etc etc). Honestly, at this rate, I feel like 40k is headed towards it own version of Fantasy's downright disrespectful End Times. Give it 5-10 years, and I think we'll see 40k have its own AoS-type "successor".

GATEKEEP THE LORE! No Fem-Custodes, no Female space marine

Ahhh yes, I was waiting for my monthly Italian gatekeeping video

I have a fun retcon, its the final battle for Vraks, Lord Hector Rex is locked in combat with the demon champion of Korner when suddenly the from tears a hole in reality. The Looney Tunes jump out and tear the entire imperial army apart and then leave. Why the heck not at this point? Great Video!

Unfortunately, the issue isn’t limited to 40K. This is pervasive in many fandoms. *cough* fat Jedi *cough* Edit: and he brought The Acolyte up as an example. How ‘bout that?

Geneseed is stored in the balls

After GW did their little female Custodes stunt. I lost all faith in them. After watching what happened to Star Wars, Doctor Who, MARVEL, Disney, Indiana Jones etc etc I have ZERO tolerance for any of this nonsense. Ive seen what happens when people insert certain characters in the story, not because they genuinely believe it will improve the story, but because they want to fill a check list. Ive seen them ruin every fictional media that I love and cherish. Just like making a home brew chapter I'm drafting my own personal fan fic version of 30k 40k and 50k lore For my joy, amusement and my eyes only. It's 90% just regular 40k. The 10% are some pretty good changes like No Female Custodes. More love to the Sisters of Silance and Sisters of Battle.

The "citing sources" is the best bit on this channel; great work. I was actually just thinking about that yesterday. Edit: Needing to understand the lore and how changing it would impact the setting instead of just making the change because you want to? I dub this concept... Chesterton's Gatekeeping lol

Thank you for keeping the gate. Hold until the end!

As a former Star Wars fan who fled to 40K I feel this. I’m still learning but know where now to go for good lore. I look forward to every video that is put out. I love 40K but I don’t want to be a tourist.

The problem I have with Primaris is that it - correct me if I'm wrong - eliminates all gene seed flaws. That means Blood Angels don't have the Red Thirst, Space Wolves don't have Wulfen, and so on. They can't fall to Chaos. It just makes them different colors of army soldiers without any unique characteristics other than the things they carry.

Majorkill is basically patient zero for dogshit 40k lore. Adeptus Rediculus just added a thousand gallons of fuel to the fire.

Surprised you didn't bring up Bruva Alfabusa. TTS may be entertaining, but I'd say it has also done a bit of damage. Hell, if I'm not mistaken, Bruva Alfabusa actually backed Templin during his whole "Fem Astartes are possible if you ignore the lore" shtick. Either way, great vid, and definitely a vid that had to be made. May the Gate be kept until it no longer has to be.

NO PITY! NO REMORSE! NO FEAR!

There are many "rules of writing", and there are also writers who are skilled enough to subvert those unofficial rules. But the one rule that remains ironclad, despite rarely being mentioned, and the one rule that remains consistent across all forms of media and genres is thus: "NEVER WASTE YOUR AUDIENCE'S TIME!" Thus, if you write a story, fictional or otherwise, serious or satire, tragedy or comedy, book or movie, the one thing you must never do is make your audience believe that engaging with your story was a waste of time. This is why remaining consistent with the lore is so important, because when people are invested in your story, they'll expect their investment to pay off in the end. If you disregard the lore, and simply do whatever you wish with the story on a whim, then the audience will realize that all of their prior investment was for naught, and you have thus wasted their time. This is why lore matters, and why people who say it doesn't are not to be trusted.

Since your talking about lore tubers whats your opinion on Arch? He is usually considered either the number 2 or 3 when it comes to lore channels.

Not what I expected Heresy posting Chapter Master to sound like

Emperor be praised, this was enjoyable

I find it funny how Majorkill said that Arch's videos where full of lore inaccuracy's and head canon yet Majorkills lore videos have way more inaccurate then Arch's

So agressively Iralian. Love it. Gatekeep what you love or lose it to the corruption of chaos.

Ama question: have you heard/watched anything by Pilgrim Pass? I know he doesn't exactly cover 40k in great depth, but he's still put out a few videos on them. Slightly off topic from that is that I got into 40k because of one of his videos. I'm mostly here for the lore, and specifically hearing an Italian talk about 40k has got to be one of thr funniest things I've ever heard. I really appreciate your videos, as you have a lot of passion about Warhammer. Keep doing The Emperor's work brother.

Honestly I love your work. Not only for the research and the passion, but also because you have the will to form concrete and well-argumented opinions and bring them forward (a behaviour I'd surely like to see more in people...). I'm not completelt sharing every thought, but I truly appreciate calling out hypocrisy and superficiality, especially in an universe where you can dive deep and find wonderful complexity. I would also make a joke on the Word Bearers planet that is made up of churches stacked upon each others, but if I learned something from this video is to double check if a bit of lore sounds too absurd or headcanony to be believed.

Pio, do you need help. blink twice for yes, and once for no. if the lore didn't matter, they wouldn't keep trying to change it. 🙂 also, love the channel. thank you all for doing this!

Bro was spot on in everything

The only tau lore i can remember is SICARIUS stomping that tau female

AMA question, thoughts on the votann and its future potential lore and or any ideas of where they can go?

They need to hire you as a QA for their lore

For Pontius: opinion about the AFanWithTooMuchTime serios of SW vs WH40K? What will be the next xenocide video? Favorite non playable lore faction (specifically xeno race)? Favorite and most hated aspect of WH40K? Will there be more theories about the missing Primarchs? Can we expect a Berlusconi cameo(i am sure there is an AI of him somewhere so don't say you can't)? Since you said NSFW area of your brain in the first minute: who is the best girl?waifu in the WH40k canon or fan made? and overal sexiest/hot species? Will you expand towards other IPs or make something of yourown someday? Why did Rome fell ? (this is obviously a joke question, don't expect answer nothing against if you do) How many of my questions do you think are jokes and how many will your answer? Will you upgrade the avatar to a Custodes VTuber?(another joke one) Will you add a xeno to your case of characters or make episodes from other factions (like mechanicus) PoV?

Glad someone called out bricky. Their female custodies response where they just insulted people who disagreed with them and plunged their ears proves they are an unreliable source

Well said, sir. Just found this page, and I'm excited to explore your content. Keep up the great work!

My knowledge of 40K lore is more or less in the middle. Love the setting, don't know all the lore, but I know the basics of the worldbuilding, albeit a lot of my knowledge is a bit old. I'm not a guy who who'd do a lore channel. 40K is a setting that if you need to do everything, you may as well do it like a historian who specializes in one or a few areas of history. This is why I like Arch and a few others who are detailed for most stuff I can't research myself or read for myself. Janovich's videos are really interesting and remind me of those history documentaries. Ever since I first played Dawn of War on PC in the 2000's I loved 40K. It';s also refreshing to also find someone who, like me, truly understands the true significance and need for canon and lore in worldbuilding and storytelling. My own understanding of 40k isn't perfect, i'd even say some of it is outdated because of a long break from 40k's deeper lore for a few years while history took it's priority. Heck, I only just found out the Primaris Marines were even a thing a short while ago, or that the galaxy supposedly has split into two. I also still call the Eldar, Eldar. I also really like your sentiment. 40k should be defended from all political activists inserting propaganda, because it's a story for anyone who loves sci fi and fantasy. I'm new to your channel, and look forward to watching some of your lore coverage too.

The more I see what’s happening to various franchises such as Star Wars, adherence to established lore has never been more important. Warhammer 40K needs to preserve what made it popular.

Amazing video as always. Keep up the good work.

Another excellent video!

You are violently Italian and I love it. And entirely correct too. +1 Sub.

Thoughts on Pancreas? Great video by the way with an important point. If anything can happen in your universe which breaks the internal logic of said universe, then nothing matters.

LOOOL templin has always been a joke.

Cawl breaks a lot of lore. He’s basically been embezzling resources for Guilliman’s pet project. Now, is the AdMech declining due to stupidity, or because Guilliman hamstrung them with a secret project to make a new legion of space marines?

I feel the criticism towards occulus is moot as he plays the part of a historitor in the 40k universe so it is "cannon" to be unreliable. But the tweet was hella stupid

Ave Dominus Nox. Lore is the glue that holds the universe together, if you dilute it the bonds break people stop respecting it. We are the point were it holds or it breaks.

Video suggestion from a humble casual with a deep respect for actual lore: what were the “good” changes to the setting? I’ve heard some snidely speak of human/Eldar hybrids that were either retconned out or quietly left by the wayside, the change from the silent terminator Necrons to the more personality rich and cultural diverse ones we have now, something something Space Rats, and I know there were a few others thrown my way while I was calling out the Femstodes bs but I can’t recall them at this time. Personally I find the Human/Eldar hybrids idea to be a joke, the now cultural Necrons to make sense, never heard of space rats before this, but again I’m a humble casual who admits not having the context of these changes. No pressure, just a simple curiosity. Thank you for your hard work.

When it come to lore remember this "Here's our standard line: Yes it's all official, but remember that we're reporting back from a time where stories aren't always true, or at least 100% accurate. If it has the 40K logo on it, it exists in the 40K universe. Or it was a legend that may well have happened. Or a rumour that may or may not have any truth behind it." • Marc Gascogne, chief editor Black Library

I honestly never found inaccuracies in Bricky's videos, and as you said, Adeptus Ridicolous is, at its core, a podcast that is supposed to introduce to the universe with a light take on the lore of the factions and characters, so to make it easier to new fans to get to know the universe without overwhelming them, so later they can get deeper into the parts of the lore they like the most. Again, as you said, their motto is "Entertainment before Accuracy" and they never stated to be a channel where people can get te totality of the lore, on they contrary they invite people to deepen their knowledge of 40k

I am not only the keeper of the gate, i am the key to the gate, i am the gate Lmao

Pontius, thank you for uploading this treat of a video. Made for a great (belated) birthday present.

Well I feel underrepresented as there should be male oblivion knights in the silent sisterhood.

AMA question, what is your opinion about fleshing out the Tyranids? Not in a "here is another bioform" sense, but fleshing out the inner working of each bioform's thought processes and the vision and beliefs of the Hivemind itself? (Of course, not in a "misunderstood saint" kinda light, more as a "corrupted incarnation of nature" way.)

Here to hold the gate against the first waves.

Getting better at this men, pronunciation still needs a bit more work but you are getting waaay better. English its my second lenguage as well, so i feel you bro. Keep it up.

Love your stuff master Tuna

Lysander and Koda are also great RU-vidrs for 40k, both accurate and funny

I've always described 40k as Sci fi dark ages. It fits. As for the Femstodes thing. Every time I've posted this it got nuked so I'll share it here... Arguments for: -Its possible, the emperor could totally do it. -I like giant woman. -Lore doesn't matter. Nothing is canon. -Amazon wanted to check boxes. -Suck it chudds Arguments against: -They have never been mentioned (the casual mentions of men & woman in gold armor are the SoS, not Custodes) -The Emperor didn't want trans humans to supplant humanity (so female trans humans make no sense, its also why the Custodes & Marines are sterile) -It ruins the dynamic of the talons of the emperor (men and woman working together to become a stronger whole) -Amazon wanted to check boxes. -Retcons usually come with models. -The real world argument: Custodes are the elite of the elite, and the SAS (one of the most elite Fighting Forces we know of) have very few men pass the tests and no woman EVER has. Whatthe40k had probably the most reasoned take on the femstodes thing I saw.

For the AMA: To everyone from the team, yes including the screaming guardsman man, do you have a homebrew of your own, and if yes - would you tell us about it?

All our chapter relics where legally gifted to us. We definitely dont have a cleptomanic identity problem! Knowledge is power! Gaurd it well!

I like how you can retcon anything, so you put Steven Segal into 40k... But don't retcon him into a decent actor

Based. All of my yes. I am very happy I discovered your channel through Janovich.

The only people the lore is important to are the fans. Said again, the ONLY people the lore is important to is the fanbase. Not the writers or the suits or the shops. If the lore as is moves the merchandise it'll remain consistent. If it doesn't, if the themes of 40k are problematic to market for video games or streaming content or ancillary media, they'll change it. GW doesn't give a shit about your time investment or your affinity for the lore. They'll change the rules and then spin the lore to upcharge existing new models. If people stop buying the models or the book or the games then they'll listen, then they'll cater. Going back to my introduction with Epic and 2nd Edition 40k.. people keep buying the models REGARDLESS OF THE LORE. I was shocked to find 40k is as lucrative as it in an age of online everything. No way I would have bet that the tabletop would still be going in the 2020s, even the pandemic couldn't kill it. They still have their consumer base by the balls. It doesn't matter how accurate the argument is or how much history about the lore any of us know, they'll change whatever they need to if it improves the margins. I think videos like this are more likely to be misconstrued than to be heeded. The issue isn't a select few individuals who want to pander to a certain demographic. The issue is the strictly financial, and flows from the top, the power to influence the lore is directly linkes to people's wallets. I love watching RU-vid to catch up on 40k lore because I don't have to give GW a dime. They got Primarchs coming back to life at a time when they're wrapping the original Horus Heresy to slowly unfurl a new one that'll follow all the same story. They're going to spend another 30 years telling the same story and nothing will advance or change other than the flavors of Marine. Female Custodies will be like record temperatures of today. In about 10 years you'll be wishing for them. The lore is not sacred to GamesWorkshop, they're not in the lore business. And if they believe they can replace disgruntled fans with new ones then expect more changes, especially if a show is a released. Get ready for Imperial romance and "love conquers all" stories.

All the "Give me that kind of character" and "Give them that kind of power" is the expression of utter entitlement and total lack of awareness of what it takes for worldbuilding. I started to write my own story, because I kept hearing of bad written scripts for TV and cinema. At first I thought, this can't be that difficult... liitle did I know. It was easy to spot the contradictions and inaedequacies in other people's work, but to my own I was blind. Because of that I despise the respectless interpretations of established brands for the sake of pleasing the so called "modern audiences". If they really feel the need for something new they should create their own brand and not pirate and change established franchises. That is just lazy. And they wonder why the backlash? No one wants lazy people to earn a ton of money, only because their product belongs to a popular brand.

I remember you dismantling Templin over his ridiculous female SM and was blown away by your knowledge passion and dedication to 40k I'm so glad that I've finally managed to find your channel and immediately subscribed. We WILL HOLD THE GATE!

A really solid video, Pontius, agree with most of the points made, apart from the argument in that Kesh couldn't have teleported the cyclonic charge - she DID have the codes from void shields, and still doubts that the bomb will teleport. This doesn't make it any more retarded though, since it seems only Custodes have access to such codes, and unless we assume someone could've somehow extracted them from the mind of one of the custodians, which is a feat in and of itself, the only ones who could destroy the Palace that way... are Adeptus Custodes themselves, who are stated to be absolutely incorruptible.

If i may ask what is your opinion on warior tier. Vox Caster and Baldemort?

I'm an old 40k fan (2nd to 4th edition) but grew into other things, the importance of lore is necessary. Idiots see it as a restrictive thing rather than guide lines or boundaries to be creative, which is where the biggest creative process occurs is when you are limited. It forces you to think and overcome. I used to be a Mass Effect fan until Bioware and their ilk shit the bed. Funny how you mentioned Space Dock, I had to correct him on how a Mass Relay worked, I was told I was wrong. I literally copied word for word from the codex entry about how a Relay worked. Apparently I was still wrong and called 'one of those fans'. Its funny how we get called toxic for wanting to adhere to rules of the universe but those who make up their own head canon get offended when you dare question their insane inserts.

Could not have stated the last part about gate keeping , better myself….salute you!! “Do not suffer the witch to live, purge the HERETIC , the mutant, the alien!”

Your rant has earned my like and following. Your diatribe on RU-vidrs has made me consider my own list of Tubers I am following and how accurate they propose to be. Warhammer is not for everyone, but if you are willing to accept the setting you are welcome.

Being unable to defeat the imperium, the chaos gods led by Tzneech and Slaanesh decided to corrupt the alternate universe - ours. Problem is we have no Grey Knights to defend against them, only potentials. The Pontius has shown us how to face the chaos threat. One of our first Grey Knights!

Pio has triggered my undying enmity for Peter Jackson. That tourist broke canon and retconned and erased my two favorite characters, Aragorn and Imrahil.

This is a very good video i am new to 40K started getting into it about a year ago, i was attracted to it because of its grimdark universe, the oppressive brutal nature of it, and the stories of triumph and sacrifice. then all this shit started happening, and i worry about its future, which is very unfortunate, because 40K is amazing. Its so rich with story, its a shame to ruin the entire flavour of the universe because some people there are clearly self righteous, and narcissistic are more compelled to inject their personal world beliefs onto a pre established franchise. it reeks of slaanesh. i liked this video because you dont even bother to get involved in the politics bait. just straight on the subject and eye rolling at their attempts to drag this into a political debate and call you a 'bad person' if you disagree. I came here from your facebook group, didnt know you had a youtube, this is very well done. I wish you the best and hope your channel grows

For AMA: Do you think any of the new stuff (advancement of lore) has been any good, for example return of the Silent King, even though he has effectively done F all. Or do you believe that what has advanced it, is mostly bad. Bonus question: Do you like the exploration of the HH, I personally wish they had never explored it and left it as the mythos it was previously.

the gate will be kept like Sanguinus did

i remember only 2 bits of tau lore: the first is sicarius stomping a tau woman, the second is cain glossing the fact that the tau freed from the genestealers were all infected when they sent them back

10/10 video. Yes brother.

nice work tuna

It is said that a honda civic is the engine of woe, while the Toyota Corolla is one of the vehicles used by the officio assasinorum

what do you think about Isander and koda?

To go on a bit about female Custodes one Apparently appears in Echoes of Eternity book, which came out in 2022

What’s the next primarch you think is most likely to come back next

Unrelated, but i love your avatar

Oh, In Horus Heresy Book Severn : Inferno (the Custodes first rules) they are also called sons. And you missed the last line of the intro " But the Universe is a big place and whatever happens you will not be missed..."

Saturnine as well goes into this problem. She was only mentioned now and it's already too late.

I already watched your video, frutti.

I tend to hate the trendy channels. I look forward to when they die. Especially when their videos aren't constructive. There are a few where the only videos I see are them cutting into the lore, the models, or the boxes. No context and no real love for the hobby. I like how you said all your points and I appreciate the holding of the line to keep the hobby fun and keep 40k enjoyable.

Whenever a random retcon happens in Warhammer i just immediately blame tzeench for one of his plots have succeeded

What will hapenned to sharrowkyn from the raven gard in 40k ? The thing I recalled is that he was frozen in space with a balise in his arms. I mean is there a way he could comeback ?

My question for the AMA is: Danny, what got you interested in Warhammer 40k in the first place?

Damn good job!

Finaly someone who understands concept of loose/soft canon that gives a lot of room to make any story with in some restriction. Also a lot of unknown that people especially new want explained is left vague or unknown is so anyone can tell a story on table top, RPGs, fanfics etc with out having to bend over to fit the lore or just straight up refuse new lore. Notice how people claim the best editions 3-4 are very vague and there is very little lore but what's there is solid Also I dissagree BMW 2016 would have been better to be in fantasy

everyone silent when this dropped

I don't think horses were the best option for travel in LOTR when you have giant eagles.

How often does Pio gets fed?

See, it's worse than you think. The Primaris mistake is neither within the acceptable limits nor in the understandable or logical ones, because of this quote that all of 40k is based on: "Forget progress. In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war". All of 40k's sins can be attributed to one single character: Belisarius *spits* Cawl. Everything else dances to the tune of that addition. It got "added" to the lore like a hammer that added" itself to a stick: IT FUCKING BROKE IT.

WE MUST STAND STRONG AGAINST SLAANESHI CORRUPTION!

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