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#41: Jay DISMANTLES the Qur'an's Credibility in 60 minutes! 

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In this final Historical talk to the ICMDA doctors and dentists Jay confronts the four claims by Muslims concerning their Qur'an, which are:
A) The Qur’an is un-created and exists eternally on clay tablets in heaven (S.85:22)
B) The Qur’an was sent down to Muhammad between 610 - 632 AD
C) The Qur’an was completed by Uthman in 652 AD
D) The Qur’an is unchanged in the last 1400 years
To dismiss these four claims Jay looked at 13 areas, including:
[1] What do modern Muslim Leaders Claim?
[2] What did early Muslim Scholars Say?
[3] Historical Anachronisms
[4] Source Criticism
[5] The 2 compilations of the Qur’an
[6] The 30 late Diacritical Variants (i.e. the different Arabic Qur’ans)
[7] The 6 Earliest Qur’anic Manuscripts
[8] The 2 Layers of the Sana’a Palimpsest
[9] The 4 Carbon Dating Lab Reports
[10] The 4,000 early Consonantal Variants
[11] The 63 Earliest Extant Fragments
[12] The 1924 Hafs canonized text
[13] The New Aramaic ‘Proto-Qur’an’ research
In these 4 talks to the ICMDA Jay's remit was to investigate both Mecca, Muhammad, and the Qur’an. Why? Because everything Muslims are dependent on comes from one ‘book, one man and one place’, all based on the Islamic Traditions (SIN) written 200 - 300 years too late, and 100s of miles too far north
Of these three areas Mecca proves the most problematic for Muslims.
The SIN claims Mecca had much vegetation, existed since Adam & Eve, where 300 prophets were buried; yet Mecca doesn't fit any of these.
In fact Mecca is not referred to until 741 AD, and none of the pre-7th century maps show Mecca at all.
Patricia Crone debunked Watt’s land based ‘Trade-Route Theory’ back in 1987, while we debunked the Red Sea Trade via Arabia, proving the trade was all via Africa, because it had water.
All of the 7th century Qiblas were facing Petra up to 706 AD, and not Mecca until 729 AD, while none of the surrounding empires ever heard of Mecca, and all of the stages of the Hajj were simply borrowed from other places, mostly Jerusalem.
The 7th century coins prove that the area under “Islam” was either Christian or Zoroastrian until 692 AD, while the Rock inscriptions prove that Islam as we know it didn’t appear until around 730 AD.
When we look at the Qur'an we find that the 6 earliest manuscripts proved that men created different Qur’ans between the 7th-9th centuries.
The Birmingham Folios proved that Muslims borrowed stories created long before the Qur’an, while the thirty 8th-10th century Qira’ats proved the Qur’an was evolving everywhere.
Holding up the 26 Qira’ats in 2016 opened up a whole ‘can of worms’ for Muslim scholars, followed by the interview of June 8, 2020 which created a platform for us to go public with the Qira’at Narrative.
The 29 Qira’at Variants dumped into the Nile in 1924 proved that when Muslims find problems with their Qur’an, they either burn them, wash them, erase them, cover them, or sink them to destroy the evidence!
The 4,000 Consonantal Variants proved that Muslims have accreted, deleted and corrupted their text, before standardizing it during the Ottoman Period.
The 63 fragments employed to find just 96% of the Qur’an proves they still cannot find a complete Qur’an for over 100 years, as their fragments are tentative, or have no sources.
The Aramaic proto-Qur’an proves that when we return to the original text we will find Jesus!
So, what happened: The 7th - 8th century Arabs in order to create their own distinct identity needed a ‘book, a man, and a place’, which they did with the Qur’an, Muhammad and Mecca. Yet, it didn’t take just 22 years as the SIN claims, but centuries, proving that Islam is as man-made as any other religion, unlike Christianity!
We can use this material today to disprove the Preservation of the Qur’an, Muhammad and Mecca, while pointing out that it is Islam and not us who are ‘arguing from silence’, as we have the 7th c. evidence they don’t have. These arguments hit at the very foundations of Islam; yet they are neutral and ‘politically correct’.
From what we have researched and found, we can convincingly say that:
-The Qur’an was not created by God at all
-The Qur’an was not sent down to Muhammad between 610 - 632 AD
-The Qur’an was not completed by Uthman in 652 AD
-The Qur’an was changed in the last 1300 years
-The Qur’an was finally compiled in 1924, and made official in 1985
-Thus, the Qur’an is a mere 99…no wait…38 years old!
-Consequently, many of us are actually older than the Qur’an!
In conclusion, when we consider the 4 claims for Qur’anic authority, we can apply them to our Logos, Jesus Christ Himself?
Note:
-Jesus is eternal?
-Jesus was sent down?
-Jesus is complete?
-Jesus has never changed?
Thus, the 4 criteria Muslims are looking for in their Qur’an, their “Primary Revelation”, we already have in Jesus Christ, our ”Primary Revelation”!
Let’s “bring Muslims Home” to a much greater and better Revelation, JESUS CHRIST!
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, August 26, 2023
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@mr.k1896
@mr.k1896 10 месяцев назад
Billions of people around the world are trapped by threats of violence and death by a religion so fragile that it has to be protected from criticism in any and every facet or it will self destruct. I have to believe that many “Muslims” already know this and have rejected Islam privately but cannot do so publicly because of the punishment for leaving Islam. May the one true God give them courage to stand up and leave Islam and it’s false prophet.
@medicalmisinformation
@medicalmisinformation 7 месяцев назад
"Its" not "it's." Amen.
@grandliferevivalcoach5514
@grandliferevivalcoach5514 7 месяцев назад
The Bible warns us that we may be killed for our beliefs.
@fleebogazeezig6642
@fleebogazeezig6642 7 месяцев назад
The “self destruct” part is especially accurate.
@leka6765
@leka6765 6 месяцев назад
It's the cardinal sin of Pride.
@ravindraju1
@ravindraju1 11 месяцев назад
One of the best video from Jay Smith. Full of complete historical information.
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
YOU MUST BE VERY GULLIBLE to think that this is historical information. 😅🤣😂
@kumarg3598
@kumarg3598 10 месяцев назад
@@user-by7zt1ns8g his criticisms for the quran is historically accurate. Its the significance of those criticisms that you disagree with. Otherwise, you would have given an example.
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
@@kumarg3598 LISTEN TO WHAT JAY SAYS; ''They gathered together all the Qur'ans from the 29 other Qira'at readings and threw them into the Nile River, and sank them…thinking that would get rid of them…''' NOW LISTEN AGAIN Jay denying what he said - THE LIAR!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kNdlwbuJjsM.html
@melindayoseph7224
@melindayoseph7224 10 месяцев назад
​@@user-by7zt1ns8gare you have any source??😂😂😂
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
@@melindayoseph7224 We got tons of sources.
@truthmatters7573
@truthmatters7573 11 месяцев назад
This is the single best video you have made on this topic so far! Absolutely phenomenal presentation. Very comprehensive and very useful. This will be my go to resource for pointing people to. 😁
@kumarg3598
@kumarg3598 10 месяцев назад
Its 99.9% the same as last time. Why is this one better? Why not talk about recent archaeology? I would love it if he talked about cruxification.
@truthmatters7573
@truthmatters7573 10 месяцев назад
@@kumarg3598 it is more succinct and comprehensive and it is better structured. You could get most of this from watching different videos by Jay, but there is nonsingle video that covers all this ground in such a well structured way.
@kumarg3598
@kumarg3598 10 месяцев назад
@@truthmatters7573 ok...fair point. I just feel jay is beating a dead horse. Its like watching thr globe trotters beat the generals for 1000th time.
@truthmatters7573
@truthmatters7573 10 месяцев назад
@@kumarg3598 Jay has chosen to be popularizer on this issue, so he will pump out videos and cover much of the same ground for people new to the discussion and a lot of people actually need to hear this a few times before they start taking it seriously. Especially muslims. This is not and will never be a channel that focuses exclusively on the cutting edge of academic research into the issue. This channel is just a tool to introduce people into the discussion and motivate them to look into it. New details will be added from time to time as they are uncovered, but you have to understand that only so much of dr. Jay's time can be spent researching, cuz he has got a very busy schedule speaking and teaching.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 10 месяцев назад
@@truthmatters7573 ... Jay Smith doesn't do the researching. He just rides on the researched works of other people, and floated as if it is his own. In other words, he is a credit-grabber. Or a fraud. -09-29-23
@paul-assiddiq-001
@paul-assiddiq-001 11 месяцев назад
Just beautiful 👍✨ Each time it gets better and more powerful.
@hectormanagey9354
@hectormanagey9354 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so very much Dr Jay Smith.
@chrispaige8880
@chrispaige8880 10 месяцев назад
Wow! Dr. Jay, this was an amazing presentation - anyway we can get the presentation? Thanks!
@thedonkeyaward
@thedonkeyaward 11 месяцев назад
This can't get any better.
@bcfc18751
@bcfc18751 10 месяцев назад
The internet is a gift from God… to be used to seek the truth!! Without lies islam dies… praying for you both and your families! ✝️🙏🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇸🇬🇧⛪️💪🏼
@sandytatham3592
@sandytatham3592 11 месяцев назад
That was an amazing and very comprehensive presentation!!! Thank you, Jay...🙏
@MU-we8hz
@MU-we8hz 11 месяцев назад
*In Christianity* You marry adults and you breastfeed children. *In islam* You marry children and you breastfeed adults.
@jamalkhan3708
@jamalkhan3708 11 месяцев назад
Well explained 😂😂😂😂😂
@kumarabhishek2359
@kumarabhishek2359 11 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂
@rida-18
@rida-18 10 месяцев назад
Yeah and in Christianity you get daughters getting their dad drunk & committing rape & incest with him... **slow claps**
@amissaanimamea9813
@amissaanimamea9813 5 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@vamsithattikota3610
@vamsithattikota3610 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@StephenCowley001
@StephenCowley001 11 месяцев назад
This is the first time I've heard of "Aramaic dots" (1.11.00). I hope we learn more!
@rizwanjohn64
@rizwanjohn64 11 месяцев назад
God bless you sir, jay
@bluesky45299
@bluesky45299 10 месяцев назад
Quran (only scripture with 100% accuracy/preservation) says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Philosophically, It is impossible for 3 distinct perfections to exist simultaneously. Father (Perfection 1/distinct1) =Son (Perfection 2/distinct2)=idolatry.This is due to addition of two extra perfections that are Co-equal/Co-eternal&distinct with Allah(the most Exalted). Not just the Quran, but also the old/New Testament textually establish tauheed(monotheism). So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/Self-Sufficient/All-Loving)? How could your love/worship be undivided/exclusive for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities to adore? The verses of bible used by trinitarians are extremely vague and require hard interpretation to extract the understanding that Father/Son/Holy Ghost are Co-equal/Co-Eternal&distinct.
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 10 месяцев назад
The god of islam is so limited and cannot exceed the boundaries set by Yehovah God for man. The true Elohim Creator God Yehovah isn’t limited by the confirmation es of silly mortal clay. He is one God in three distinct persons, the triune Godhead.
@bluesky45299
@bluesky45299 10 месяцев назад
@@annemurphy9339 you said” he is one god in 3 distinct person? Are those 3 distinct person perfect/absolute? Can you prove textually where does old/New Testament state that Father/son/Holy Spirit are co- equal , go-eternal& distinct? Perfection by definition is “ Al-ahad”(one/indivisible)
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 10 месяцев назад
@@bluesky45299 Who does allah pray to? How is the piece of black stone, venerated and kissed and attributed with Yehovah God’s ability to forgive sins, not an idol? How is it that muhammad, a human being, has blasphemy laws for insulting him yet there are no blasphemy laws for the crescent moon god allah, and how can anyone blaspheme a mere mortal?
@bluesky45299
@bluesky45299 10 месяцев назад
@@annemurphy9339 Islam is dependent upon two sources: Quran& Hadith. When you say Muslims worship black stone, please provide evidence for such disgusting idolatry from Quran/Hadith. Again, when you say there are no blasphemy laws for insulting Allah(the most exalted) m, please site your evidence from Quran/Hadith. This is completely false. Quran says:”there is nothing like Allah”. Quran says “Allah does not beget nor is he begotten”. Central doctrine of Islam is:there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah, muhammad(peace be upon him) is the messenger/slave of Allah.” Your statement regarding black stone/blasphemy is completely false.
@yajujmajuj1739
@yajujmajuj1739 11 месяцев назад
Wow...simply amazingly detailed
@Amigos1993
@Amigos1993 11 месяцев назад
God bless you Dr. Jay Smith
@arwandajunior1122
@arwandajunior1122 10 месяцев назад
Dr jay you are phenomenal brother all hands up for you ❤️❤️❤️
@samuelflores1419
@samuelflores1419 11 месяцев назад
As always great job Dr Jay! God bless you and your ministry!
@EndingSimple
@EndingSimple 29 дней назад
very valuable to have compiled all your findings in one comprehensive youtube. Thank you.
@Bebe777333
@Bebe777333 10 месяцев назад
Excellent work!
@damodarshaw2807
@damodarshaw2807 11 месяцев назад
God bless everyone who's trying to bring This community in right path 😊
@kumarg3598
@kumarg3598 10 месяцев назад
Thats how the crusades started.
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 10 месяцев назад
@@kumarg3598 The Crusades started as a retaliatory response to 500+ years of islamic slave raids into Europe.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 10 месяцев назад
Path of those who go astray.
@mohamadibrahimallapitchay2825
@mohamadibrahimallapitchay2825 9 месяцев назад
Good job mr jay smith. You are brilliant. The two billion muslim are blind. Your knowledge is but a small grain in the ocean of knowledge. Others can claim that paul write bible according to his limited knowledge. Paul does not receive any revelation. Muslim need not dispute you. We can argue for years about quran or bible. Lets follow our respective teaching and let god be the judge on the day of judgement. None of us are granted a free ticlet to paradise. Some say jesus is god and worship him. Others believe he was born a human and eat like other human. Some believe he will come back to give salvation to christian. Some believe he will come back to embrace islam. Pick your bet.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 29 дней назад
@@defenderoftruth3212 mate, you are the living walking definition of "blind faith". you were told to believe and never question, and so you do. and when others bring irrefutable proof that smth is off with your narrative, you just call it bs. you are not doing anything to rebuke this, you just mock us. like Muhammad Hijab when he has no idea what to say.
@DanielApologetics
@DanielApologetics 11 месяцев назад
That was a great presentation 👏
@metagalaxy-go-the-distance
@metagalaxy-go-the-distance 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video
@polokucoch8112
@polokucoch8112 11 месяцев назад
Just incredible!! The presentation was so sound!!
@mccaboy
@mccaboy 10 месяцев назад
thankyoufor such a thorough and clear presentation
@oleo.stimes6525
@oleo.stimes6525 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic compilation. Also, I'm looking forward to your interactions with 'Saint' Murad when his translation of the Qur'an is available.
@HJEvan
@HJEvan 11 месяцев назад
This is very good information. Thanks Pfander.
@toddbeamer6131
@toddbeamer6131 10 месяцев назад
Excellent presentation.
@sanjaymalwe3529
@sanjaymalwe3529 10 месяцев назад
Excellent work 🙂
@Theosapologetics
@Theosapologetics 11 месяцев назад
Dr.jay, where can we find online publications of this warsh Quran and some of those different Qurans?please we need badly! So we can show them the website of it comparing to hafs!
@stephenchienjo3283
@stephenchienjo3283 11 месяцев назад
i agree!
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 11 месяцев назад
There is no Hafs or Warsh Quran. There is Hafs and Warsh reading. The definition the Quran includes the readings.
@Theosapologetics
@Theosapologetics 11 месяцев назад
@@alonzoharris9049 is warsh a dialect or not?
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 11 месяцев назад
@@Theosapologetics No!!! the dialect is only certain words called ''variant words'' and those words were also Revelation as the Quran was revealed in 7 Styles or Modes of Recitation while the rest of the text remains the same. Hafs or Warsh or any other were Quranic Reciters who used their favourite ''variant words'' in their Recitation and that's how it became the Hafs or Warsh, etc. Recitation.
@Theosapologetics
@Theosapologetics 11 месяцев назад
@@user-by7zt1ns8g that’s the most NAIVE claims . Are you a Christian or a muslim? Do you really believe our GOD will reveal a CERTAIN word in 7 different modes or dialects? Don’t believe to whatever Muslims are claiming. They are clearly trying to cover up the failure of UTHMAN to burn all different Qurans in different dialects. . The STANDARD TEXTS says in hadith” uthman asked hudayfa to get empty sheet for Zayd to write a quran in QURAISH dialect and they produced many copies then burned all the variants of Quran . Now this is where the FAILURE started. Uthman obviously failed to burn those qurans all over the region some of muhammad’s companions ibn masud kept his and his followers own variants of Quran. Take note Quran is not a complete book it took 23 years for it to be completed as full quran. Not in one place but in everywhere any place they took battles it was a continous revelation from muhammad.when Muhammad died year later Some who heard his revelations died 70 of them prompting abu bkr the successor of Muhammad to write the Quran. 20 yrs later uthman 3rd caliph standardized the Quran taking the copy from HAFSA 4th wife of Muhammad. The worst part According to the history of al-Tabari, during the expedition there were 10,000 Kufan warriors, 6,000 in Azerbaijan and 4,000 at Rayy.[37] A large number of soldiers disagreeing about the correct way of reciting the Quran may have caused Hudhayfah to promote a unified text. That’s how UTHMANIC TEXTS is born the QURAISHI DIALECT. what added next is the 7 Qiraat/rhymes/reading There no such thing as another dialects because that’s the very reason why UTHMAN BURNED THE REST it’s because of many dialects many variants of Quran! What you hear today is just MADE UP doctrine by islamic scholars to cover up the DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF QURAN which UTHMAN failed to consfiscate during the standardization of Quran.
@SKANDERBEG123
@SKANDERBEG123 10 месяцев назад
May long live Legendary JAY SMITH 🙏❤️🇦🇱
@123dsj123
@123dsj123 11 месяцев назад
We must understand that the contentions (or disagreements) over the “Perfect Preservation of the Quran” is a thing of great importance to Muslims. How else can a Muslim assumes his divine human superiority over his fellow human beings if the Quran has been tempered with by man? Allah tells Muslims that they alone, when compared to the rest of mankind, are the superior human beings ever created. Quran 3:110 reads, “You (Muslims) are the best of people ever raised up for mankind.” In Hadith Riyas as-Salihin 1839, Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, explains Quran 3:110: “The best people for mankind are those who bring them (mankind) with chains around their necks till they embrace Islam…” * Thus, the Muslim must fiercely contend for his human supremacy by insisting the Quran, from God, is a decree that cannot be changed for all eternity. Surely, you do not expect the Muslim to give in to the claim “All men are created equal” - a claim he attributes to a “supposedly” corrupt book?
@simon-d-m
@simon-d-m 11 месяцев назад
The claim is either true or false. If all the evidence refutes it, someone is lying...
@jojoagogo
@jojoagogo 10 месяцев назад
@@simon-d-mwithout lies Islam dies.
@jojoagogo
@jojoagogo 10 месяцев назад
You’d have to bang your head at least 5 times a day to believe anything that a PDFile, paranoid schizophrenic, received ANY revelation from ANY God.
@simonhengle8316
@simonhengle8316 11 месяцев назад
I actually think this is one of the best presentations you have done, fabulous stuff Dr. J. Smith, one question, were the early Quranic manuscripts divided into the chapters we have today?
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms 11 месяцев назад
Good question. If you look at the earliest Manuscripts they are not like today's Qur'an at all, but jump all over the place, and have no verse references (though some begin to place medallions at every 10th verse, though squeezed in as a later addition). Versification was added at a much later date, and is still not consistently standardized even today in the 21st century. That is why whenever I state a chapter and verse I am using the Hillali & Khan versification, which is not always the standard, so that you may have to read forward and backwards 4-5 verses to find the correct one I am referring to.
@simonhengle8316
@simonhengle8316 11 месяцев назад
@@pfanderfilms Thank you so much for the answer, maybe that is something you could do a presentation on in the future?
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
LISTEN TO WHAT JAY SAYS; ''They gathered together all the Qur'ans from the 29 other Qira'at readings and threw them into the Nile River, and sank them…thinking that would get rid of them…''' NOW LISTEN AGAIN Jay denying what he said - THE LIAR!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kNdlwbuJjsM.html
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 10 месяцев назад
I have not read the whole Quran yet the portions I have, read very disjointed. Very much as a series of statements.
@jxcess3891
@jxcess3891 10 месяцев назад
​@@pfanderfilmsHi Jay, why do you permit abduls like alonzoharris9049 to write comments such as "Christians believe in 3 gods" on your channel?
@temsumongbajamir1582
@temsumongbajamir1582 10 месяцев назад
God bless everyone.
@wollicreek-gb3oc
@wollicreek-gb3oc 10 месяцев назад
Talking about Islamic standard narrative and the background leads me to recognize it as the product of savage desert civilization. I don't believe that that civilization produced books.
@therock6251
@therock6251 9 месяцев назад
Great research u r awesome sir!!
@kellrik66
@kellrik66 11 месяцев назад
A question: If the Jewish temple was destroyed in 70 AD and the first mosque was built in 710 AD What was actually at the site during that time?
@usernametaken6659
@usernametaken6659 11 месяцев назад
As I understand, the mosque was actually a christan building and design before islam hijacked it.
@zambiansonlineforum1052
@zambiansonlineforum1052 11 месяцев назад
Jay Simith have you ever written a book about these important information? I want a copy.
@One_voice369
@One_voice369 11 месяцев назад
When I see the historical context in quran I see a bowl of spaghetti All over the place
@nonononowaay6295
@nonononowaay6295 11 месяцев назад
16:18 Everything made of silver use for trading is called dirham and dinar for gold. In the Quran, the ruler of Egypt during Joseph's time is said to be the "king"; the ruler during the time of Moses is said to be "pharaoh", without a definite article. The title "pharaoh" began to be used to refer to rulers of Egypt with Thutmose III in 1479 BCE, about 20 years after Joseph's death. In the biblical story of Joseph, "king" (Hebrew: Melekh) and "pharaoh" are used interchangeably in Genesis 39 to 41. Quranic Joseph was live in the era od Dynasty 18, Thutmose II ca. 1492-1479 B.C. "In the final days of Egypt new kingdom (1570-1070 BC) non-coin form of silver shaped like rings and gold pieces shaped like sheep centuries were exchanged before the minting coins out different metals. Silver was much more scarcely than gold in Ancient Egypt, the ancient Egyptian society had many currencies and coins but after the foundation of the Ptolemaic kingdom, an enforced policy of a single currency was established." Please dont mix biblical and quranic story. Edit..... The bible actually refer the ruler of Egypt at the time of Joseph as Pharaoh. Suppose to be King. And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. - Genesis 41:46 And Joseph placed his father and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded. - Genesis 47:11
@truthmatters7573
@truthmatters7573 10 месяцев назад
Depends on your timeline. If you go with the late date, then it checks out.
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 10 месяцев назад
The word king is used in the Bible for the Egyptian ruler.
@nonononowaay6295
@nonononowaay6295 10 месяцев назад
@@hereweare9096 the quran acurately differ the timeline when The Egypt Kingdom using the ruler title from "King to Pharaoh". In Joseph story quran using "King" In Moses story Quran Using "Pharaoh".
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 10 месяцев назад
@@nonononowaay6295 In the earliest documents of Egypt, the word apparently designated the royal palace and in course of time came to apply to the head of government, the king.
@nonononowaay6295
@nonononowaay6295 10 месяцев назад
@@hereweare9096 they said GOD Reveal Quran To Correct "Blurry" History in previous GOD Holy Book. Right now im study Abraham and Sarah Inc3st Marriage. According to Bible and Torah the name of Abraham father and Sarah Father is Terah. So abraham and Sarah same father but different mother. So according to Quran, the name of Abraham Biological father is Azar. This guy Azar threaten to stone Abraham bcoz abraham Bully his Idol God, then Abraham run from his father home. If we logically connect the dots, abraham run from his biological father house to his biological "re married" mother. So Abraham and Sarah is : 1. Same Mother but Different Father (half sibling) but ok to married. Or 2. Completely no blood related (step sibling, step sister, step brother) Bible and torah also Picturing Sarah as Jelous Wife Quran correcting Sarah as Pious wife and Obedience to god, as GOD command sarah to give Hagar as Abraham 2nd wife and promise sarah a reward. GOD rewarding sarah with Biological Son .
@mathaivarghese9769
@mathaivarghese9769 6 месяцев назад
Good work
@steevonmelwin
@steevonmelwin 10 месяцев назад
Hello Jay, Excellent work. I'd like to have a PowerPoint. How would I have access to it?
@xavierbesnard9201
@xavierbesnard9201 11 месяцев назад
Du très bon boulot !
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 10 месяцев назад
Odd- How could some verses be substituted if the Quran was “written” eternally already??
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 11 месяцев назад
Jay is much more effective speaking more slowly.
@BQ900
@BQ900 10 месяцев назад
The Muslims are always looking to criticize the Bible or the person as making a personal insult. This guy is sharp. The Quron is one of the most evil directives I have read.
@majeromajero7330
@majeromajero7330 10 месяцев назад
Now I want to read the one in aramaic dots in english.
@garybowings1538
@garybowings1538 11 месяцев назад
"Alonzo Harris" worships three gods.
@ionin3965
@ionin3965 11 месяцев назад
abdul deal with the topic or your mined flies around bukhari 6807 what your pervert muhamed wants from you?
@rajuthomas7471
@rajuthomas7471 8 месяцев назад
Defend logically and scientifically instead of ridiculing. Be rational.
@miovicdina7706
@miovicdina7706 10 месяцев назад
👏👏 Excellent
@shdwbnndbyyt
@shdwbnndbyyt 11 месяцев назад
The creation of C-14 is dependent on cosmic ray intensity. Since parchment is made from animal skins and contain nitrogen-14 as a part of the proteins which make up the skin, then the variation of cosmic ray intensity can affect the C-14 concentration of the skin. Note that cosmic rays can pass through the entire earth, so being kept in the dark does not matter in terms of C-14 creation. But per the standard carbon dating narrative, the C-14 dating shows the date of when the animal died... NOT when a parchment was used or scraped and reused as they often were. Parchments several hundred years old have been found to have been scraped and reused multiple times over the centuries. But C-14 dating is NOT reliable for any nitrogen containing materials, such as parchments made from animal skins (proteins contain nitrogen)... because N-14 can be converted to C-14 by cosmic rays, even if the parchment is prtected from direct sunlight because cosmic rays can pass through the entire earth.
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 11 месяцев назад
Your biblical manuscripts are later? The datings for your biblical manuscripts are incorrect.
@dianamv1618
@dianamv1618 7 месяцев назад
Pero hay más que investigar... como la expresión, si coincide con la expresión antiguo o es moderna. También la escritura, si la ortografía es parecida a dicha época o no. Hay varios factores para comprovar más o menos la época de los manuscritos...
@jojoagogo
@jojoagogo 10 месяцев назад
If a verse is abrogated, does that not count as “not one word or letter” being changed?
@kafirlindaclark6148
@kafirlindaclark6148 11 месяцев назад
Dr. Jay, even ignoring the dates and script types, the actual, personal reading of Qur'an is all codswallop! It's like some 10 year old wrote how he PERCEIVED Biblical stories. May Jesus Yeshua bless you Doctor Jay!
@briendoyle4680
@briendoyle4680 11 месяцев назад
jhahaha
@traver1965
@traver1965 11 месяцев назад
I wonder if Luxenberg has compiled a new version of the Quran? If not I hope he/she will
@alonzoharris9049
@alonzoharris9049 11 месяцев назад
Luxenberg believes in three gods.
@srilankangenie
@srilankangenie 3 месяца назад
16:04 maybe they are referring to the exchange rate from Sheckles to Dhirams
@avalancheofapostasy4916
@avalancheofapostasy4916 11 месяцев назад
31 minutes in and I'm overwelmed with the obvious evidence of the unreliability of the quran.
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 11 месяцев назад
Islam is a scam, as I use to say! Well done Jay!
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 11 месяцев назад
The only scam here is Jay!!!! Taking you idiots for fools.
@mwh6613
@mwh6613 9 месяцев назад
Muslims were supposed to be a proper human by learnings as the important matters of life's, Instead! Muslims are serving the Sayetan.
@stargategoku
@stargategoku 9 месяцев назад
Couldn't agree more. Quran is a false book full of errors and inconsistencies
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 11 месяцев назад
good audio quality
@jean-baptistejanssens9468
@jean-baptistejanssens9468 11 месяцев назад
Praise be to Jesus for exposing the darkness with light.
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 11 месяцев назад
Yasr Qhadhi: "The Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) has holes in it" Abdools: "Major or Minor?"
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
What does our Lord do to Tables ? ... Flips it , Left way , Right ... Up downside He is Over Protective , by nature ... Especially with His Ahlul Bayt...
@vicmath1005
@vicmath1005 11 месяцев назад
A small correction, if I may, Sheikh Jay! Dirḥam is the Aramaic/Arabic form of Drachma. The Aramaic (later Arabic) 'ḥ' (ح) is generally transliterated to ancient Greek as 'ch' (χ). Matthew the Levite - collector of the (Jerusalem) Temple tax - collected two-drachma from people. (See Matt. 17:24). Drachma would have been the name of the currency the Levites used at least since the beginning of the Hasmonean dynasty (c. 160 BCE) when the Petra-based Maccabeaus acquired the Temple Mount from the Greek rulers and established the Jewish temple there. The Nazarenes (formerly Levites), under 'Umar ibn al-Khattab, reestablished the Jerusalem Temple for the Jews (/Nazarenes/Muslims-Phase-1) in 635 CE and would have collected the Temple tax in the form of the newly issued dirḥam (/drachma) currency.
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 11 месяцев назад
And does "dinar" come from Latin "denarius"?
@vicmath1005
@vicmath1005 11 месяцев назад
@@kaloarepo288 The two words sound almost identical. So, I imagine, one followed the other.
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms 11 месяцев назад
Of course Dirham comes from the word Drachma, as it was created later. The Arabs didn't have any coinage before Muawiya introduced it in Arabic after 661 AD, much like the Arabic Dinar most likely comes from the Latin denarius. The Arabs took what was already there and Arabized it.
@vicmath1005
@vicmath1005 11 месяцев назад
@@pfanderfilms Thank you Sheikh Jay. IMHO: Although the language used on the coins etc is known to us as Arabic, I would have thought the faith leaders and their teachings were far too sophisticated to come from the Arabs. The drivers behind the whole phenomenon would have been the Nazarenes (root word nṣr is not Arabic).
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 11 месяцев назад
​@@kaloarepo288yes
@enockt6218
@enockt6218 11 месяцев назад
Are you in tanzania?? Thats great ! you will enjoy.
@PleiadesChannel
@PleiadesChannel 11 месяцев назад
If this series existed five years ago I could have helped saved my friend's relationship with a sweet Muslim lady. :'(
@wandering_circles7487
@wandering_circles7487 11 месяцев назад
Should try and save both of them now. My God help you save those souls.
@Convertier
@Convertier 10 месяцев назад
Can we download this presentation?
@planetruth1013
@planetruth1013 10 месяцев назад
They need to wake up but very few will until the tribulations when they most probably will die for coming to faith in Jesus
@jfziemba
@jfziemba 11 месяцев назад
Oh. Thought it was Jay Dyer. BTW, have you watched his recent vid about Islam and what do you think?
@ShahzadKhan-io4iw
@ShahzadKhan-io4iw 21 день назад
Your favourite Deroshe says Paris manuscript is from the 7th century Jay.
@user-pc4ul7rk6y
@user-pc4ul7rk6y 10 месяцев назад
Can we please get the powerpoint? Is there a book written by Dr. smith?
@Savandero
@Savandero Месяц назад
Hi brother, there is a claim that your taping picture is in the language aramaic. Any thoughts on that?
@christianfrommuslim
@christianfrommuslim 10 месяцев назад
The most enjoyable way to discover the corruption of the Quran is in Terry Kelhawk's adventure novel "The Topkapi Secret."
@elainekilgore1352
@elainekilgore1352 10 месяцев назад
Question: why would God need to keep clay tablets in heaven? No being living there now or at the end of time would have any use for it. God certainly has no need of it in heaven.
@fitzburg63
@fitzburg63 10 месяцев назад
Because people living in that times knew no other medium, so they could not come out with anything else - religions are all man made cults.
@amalrajxavier123
@amalrajxavier123 11 месяцев назад
God bless you Dr Jay 🙏
@britanikothegreat8513
@britanikothegreat8513 11 месяцев назад
Isaiah 7:14. Matthew 27:46. Psalms 22:1-20!!! 21!!! DO NOT COMPLAIN OR CLAIM LIKE EMMANUEL OR JESUS. JOHN 14:6. JOHN 10:30. Exodus 20:7-8-12. Deuteronomy 5:1-11. WHAT DID YOU SAY?!. HEBREO 4:12.
@briendoyle4680
@briendoyle4680 11 месяцев назад
haha
@tdsdave
@tdsdave 10 месяцев назад
It says in the hadith that Bakr texts held by Hafsa , were borrowed by the Uthman project and were later returned to her, the rest destroyed . Also the emergency of the battle of Yamama says they feared that "parts" of the Quran would be lost , which suggests the Hafiz did not know the whole Quran else how could you lose parts if a single Hafiz was all that was needed to write the whole text. They say today if the Quran was lost across the planet it could be remade the following day , so why couldn't that be done with the Sahaba and Hafiz contemporary to early post Mo death Islam.
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
Who says that the Sahaba could not reproduced the Quran after Mohammad (saw)?😀 YOU JUST GAVE THE ANSWER.
@tdsdave
@tdsdave 10 месяцев назад
@@user-by7zt1ns8g Yeah I think you just missed all the points in what I wrote , and the accompanying points within the video . Producing what you might call a Quran is not necessarily the same thing as reproducing the Quran that you'd claim was revealed. Given all the statements in your own texts, many from sahabah, and logical inferences we can make from those statements , the revelation was not what was produced. Your own texts talk of the sahabah saying parts were lost , forgotten, missing, changed, even eaten by animals. Notable sahabah had different qurans with variant numbers of sura and they opposed the legitimacy of what was produced by Uthmans process. Nothing about the process described in your texts suggests the Qurans of the sahabah were more than fallible compilations made from the recollections of fallible people , and there was no unity on what the text should be. You don't even have a contemporary copy of the Uthanmic text anyway , the oldest almost complete( it has many missing verses )extant Quran dates to over 150 years after Mo's death, prior to that you have small variant fragments , you have no way of showing the text was preserved, and clear statements from the sahabah that it was not. So go read your traditional accounts , they are what show your claim is not true.
@manlike2323
@manlike2323 11 месяцев назад
another brilliant video by jay smith!
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
They changed the map as well...
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
Zaboor we have to unlock
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
God Hears , aka Ishmael , apparently is a mobile Qura 10 styles recition, Thanks to our Lord
@user-fd6tw2rw8z
@user-fd6tw2rw8z 11 месяцев назад
Though I am Catholic but I love mr.Jay smith most.We Catholic don’t do like him but we should/must do.😉.However, we have time now to do it . Why should we afraid to tell the truth.there was a time that we could not say but now we have time to say their false because we love them . Love is meant in bible to tell the truth and bring them back to the right places we love our Muslim brothers and sisters.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 11 месяцев назад
The internet is proving to be just as damaging to Protestantism as to Islam. People can read the Church Fathers and the Didache - and see for themselves that early Christianity was very Catholic.
@joescott4073
@joescott4073 10 месяцев назад
Why don't you like him
@favourayobami4056
@favourayobami4056 10 месяцев назад
You Catholics don't like him? Who made you the mouthpiece of the entire Catholic spokesman?
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 10 месяцев назад
Catholics need to go Muscular 💪 like they used to be in old days, they are now snowflakes all thanks to pope francis and his snowflake army of liberal catholics
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
@@yakovmatityahu Catholics praise LUCIFER👹
@pauldeeley4247
@pauldeeley4247 10 месяцев назад
With such SIN...time for repentance, ask God for forgiveness, dish Alla and come to God. Jesus will welcome all. Brothers and sisters come home!
@haneefmuhammad
@haneefmuhammad 9 месяцев назад
Jay is helping the spread of Islam. May ALLAH have Mercy on you. Good work Jay keep people reading The Quran it is a Mercy for them. As Salaam Alaikum
@stargategoku
@stargategoku 9 месяцев назад
I think you are sleeping when you watch this video only 1 word change is enough to invalidate quran because allah claimed that quran is perfect tablet surah 85.22 and allah said "none can alter his words and not allow to corrupt his book in surah 15.9 we will guard it, surah 18.27, 10.15, surah 6.34 and surah 6 115 but there are many cancelled and deleted and lost words. 6 quran major manuscripts were written in RASM letrer and not identical to each orher, how come 6 major manuscripts are different from quran today Young generations in the gulf are leaving this islamic cult because everything now can be fact checked. For example q Allah said the sun sets in the muddy water in surah 18.86 and the sun runs on its own fixed course in surah 36.38 and confirmed by muhammad. Do you believe on this? It means allah was wrong on historical, logical, moral, origin and empirical evidence. Another huge mistake by allah when allah said woman has sperms come from ribs and man's sperms come from backbone. Do you beleive on this? Everything was wrong
@Val.Kyrie.
@Val.Kyrie. 9 месяцев назад
He’s destroying your demonic filth 😂
@haneefmuhammad
@haneefmuhammad 9 месяцев назад
@@Val.Kyrie. As Salaam Alaikum
@haneefmuhammad
@haneefmuhammad 9 месяцев назад
@@stargategoku As Salaam Alaikum
@stargategoku
@stargategoku 9 месяцев назад
@@haneefmuhammad is allah shaytan or was muhammad pedophile, idolatrr, murderer and adulterer disgusting evil man or is quran a false book?
@OrdoSanctiBenedictus
@OrdoSanctiBenedictus 10 месяцев назад
Wow!
@NeilEvans-xq8ik
@NeilEvans-xq8ik 11 месяцев назад
I've heard the prosecution. Now I want to hear the defence. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is this channel about thinking or just self-congratulating tribalism?
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms 11 месяцев назад
Actually we're waiting for a good defense as well. My apologies if it comes across as self-congratulation. That's not our intent. We would like to hear a good potent response.
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 11 месяцев назад
@@pfanderfilms STOP YOUR LYING!!! You've been answered over and over with proof but you still regurgitates the same crap over and over.
@libbaT
@libbaT 11 месяцев назад
​@@user-by7zt1ns8g'Giving answers' doesn't automatically translate into VALID answers. If you think Dr Smith is fabricating, the onus is on YOU to provide your own evidenced refutation my friend
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 11 месяцев назад
@@libbaT I've been doing that for years...but the Liar regurgitates the same crap all over again for new gullible xtians. STATE YOUR EXAMPLE and I will proof the lies of Jay to you.
@troywalstra9300
@troywalstra9300 10 месяцев назад
​@@user-by7zt1ns8gthat isn't a defense for what you believe.
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 8 месяцев назад
9:42 there was a passage about breastfeeding an adult 10 times? What
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 7 месяцев назад
1:05:45 hey hey! I’m younger than the Quran! I feel so youthful! I’m right around how old Jesus was when he died. And how old Frederick Barbarossa was when he became Holy Roman Emperor. Right when I start to feel like I’m getting old, someone says something that makes me feel like a spring chicken.
@ibrahimriversnoone9767
@ibrahimriversnoone9767 10 месяцев назад
Jay couldn't dismantle his shoe lace ..... without lying 🤥
@TingTong2568
@TingTong2568 10 месяцев назад
PissLame and quWrong had been obelirated by Jay Smith
@troywalstra9300
@troywalstra9300 10 месяцев назад
Lying about what exactly?
@ibrahimriversnoone9767
@ibrahimriversnoone9767 10 месяцев назад
@@troywalstra9300 about Islam, allah ,his revelation, all of his prophets and messengers, and the messiah son of Miriam. Listen to him and follow him on his woeful path- or study and read for yourself and pray to the very one the messiah prayed to- Pray for guidance-amin
@dougdillon1956
@dougdillon1956 11 месяцев назад
Jay what about St John of Damascus who rebuts Mohammed and refers to mecca before 749. Please do a video about how his critique of the Saracens on the historicity of Islam?
@nikolabrankovic1124
@nikolabrankovic1124 11 месяцев назад
Make video of Muhammad museum where they have his footprint, shoes, hair, tooth, letters and other
@user-by7zt1ns8g
@user-by7zt1ns8g 10 месяцев назад
@thelittlemermaid1411 YES!!! The Ottomans ruled the known world for almost a 1000 yrs including the Arab caliphs and they (OTTOMANS) TOOK ALL THE RELICS when they ruled Mecca and Medina.
@danieladedosugbadero7373
@danieladedosugbadero7373 10 месяцев назад
The Rashidun period in Islam is legendary and mythical in the Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN). It never existed historically. It was a time of chaos and uncertainty when the repressed Arabs were suddenly freed from the dominating Roman and Sassanid Empires. The long repressed Arabs suddenly found freedom and rampaged everywhere conquering large territories for their new Arab empire. The period was too bloody, chaotic and uncertain and possibly embarrassing to document. It lasted from 622 to 681. The Arab nation was then led and governed by diverse interests and leaders until it was consolidated under Muawiya and Abdul Malik who were quasi- Christians but definitely not Muslims. The Abbasids took over from the Umayyads of Syria and, consolidating their takeover to create a unique identity, began to create a new religion of Islam with a messiah in Mohammed, a book in Quran, and a new center of worship in Mecca. There is no iota of historical, academic or archaeological evidence to support the theory of the Rashidun era created in the Standard Islamic Narrative of the Islamic literatures.
@MonotheismToParadisr
@MonotheismToParadisr 6 месяцев назад
Jews call christians idol worshippers, MIAMONMIDES the ancient jewish scholar told his followers not to worship in christian churches but ok to worship in morques as they are Monothesist
@robinpage2730
@robinpage2730 6 месяцев назад
Great presentation. Now if only he could apply those save critical analysis techniques to Christianity and Judaism
@soosainathan1753
@soosainathan1753 10 месяцев назад
The more weak the foundation of a belief is, the irrational and effort the believers put in to defend the belief. They put in human orotection to preserve their way. I really wonder what he smoked or ate to think he went to Jerusalem and then to heaven , up to the 7th. Level and conversed with god?
@motivationking9846
@motivationking9846 10 месяцев назад
❤❤
@mikenine1962
@mikenine1962 7 месяцев назад
The earliest people who knew Mohammad weren't even named ( Maronite Chronicle ) but described as a group of Arabs who actually describing Christian activities. This is the point where Mohammed life was concocted and created, from the 'Group of Arabs.'
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu 10 месяцев назад
This video is the Ring 🔔 of Death for SIN, Standard Islamic Narrative
@justthinks2960
@justthinks2960 10 месяцев назад
please help us pakistan persecution of christians continues in pakistan this is the 18th incident in the last one month please help us please remember us in your prayers
@patnor7354
@patnor7354 10 месяцев назад
Flee. No one can prrotect you from the muslims there.
@justthinks2960
@justthinks2960 10 месяцев назад
@@patnor7354 yes it's true All Muslim are same all government body
@michaelboros9834
@michaelboros9834 2 месяца назад
What Quran? All originals have been burned. There were zero dots or dashes in original Arabic writing. There’s over 27 different Qurans with 91,000 differences…
@ShahzadKhan-io4iw
@ShahzadKhan-io4iw 21 день назад
Your Hatun Tash has not done her research properly, lol.
@tituserhadi1980
@tituserhadi1980 10 месяцев назад
Gbu
@mikenine1962
@mikenine1962 7 месяцев назад
Hi Jay So 30:00, this is why the Quran is so mixed up, and as you say has chronological errors.
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
Hamaan also German name
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
20: 12
@RS_Holdings
@RS_Holdings 11 месяцев назад
لا The Boy Play , La
@MAX-tw3qz
@MAX-tw3qz 11 месяцев назад
What an amazing video. Talk about opening a gold mine, this is a truth mine. Get digging folks, let's bury Muhammad and rest in peace.
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