I don´t know guys. "nobody talks about remote learning" "remote work is much less efficent." "nobody discusses tourism. Everybody hates on the tourists." So many wrong statements and no questioning that. I think you were very nice to this guest. To the detriment of your viewers. When I visited the Barceloneta quarter almost 10 yrs ago, the banners across the facades were explicitly pointing out the connections between tourists and rents skyrocketing. definitely pointing at the bigger pictue, not just bashing tourists. Much left to be desired :)
Fair, but I feel like the guys wanted to keep the conversation moving rather than get bogged down in points he would have likely had answers to. Although, just a point on your points, Barca is just one very specific example. An example where the local residents are pretty well off and think they don’t need tourism. Most parts of the world where there is tourism, there is a very explicit problem with tourists themselves. Think southern Spain (hatred of Brits), Turkish resorts that put up with drunk Russians, Thailand, Japan etc etc. Also, Barcelona was an afterthought, his main point seemed to be about tourists hating on other tourists. We’d all love to travel without everyone else there
@@HM-mw7cg See? much more discussion going on already here in the comments between us :) Shows that the topic is ripe. It´s presentation (and examination) really wasn´t, in my opinion. To your point(s): No, the residents of that tiny little Barceloneta-district aren´t well off. If an "air b´n´b-ified" rent drives you to the brink of financial collaps you are not well off. As for your second point: I disagree. Tourists hating on tourists came up, yes. And to me it´s a rather shallow thing. Maybe the one argument fitting the best into that class argument Mr. d'Eramo made. Either you´re kind of a snob and want to sepereate yourself from those who are in the same income-group, hence the same spot / resort / place as yourself. That would point towards (however mild a form of) self-hatred or denial about class; or you are part of the "hoard" of tourists, fully identifiyng with your class, as you mentioned in your example with brits and russians. They (to put it cartoonishly) shamelessly take advantage of their current favourable exchange rate / economic one-uppance over the host country, as in Turkey ie. Which takes me to the point of Mr. d'Eramo that imho was left really underexplored. He said, if I remember correctly, that the racism directed towards tourist is the same racism directed towards immigrants. He said: "They are always the tresspassers, coming into MY country, MY town." I couldn´t agree less. It´s comparing apples to oranges. And I think he contradicted himself, though constuctively, when he made the distinction: "one group comes to serve the inhabitants, the other comes to BE served by them." So... there´s that. It´s either a shallow argument of "strangers are bad" -which has nothing to do with tourism per se. Or it´s an argument about the economics of tourism in the context of capitalism - and I think he tried to argue the latter. Although somewhat inconsistent. To propose that immigrants experience the same racism as tourist do is flat out counterfactual. Or such an oversimplification that it yields no analytical surplus. I´m pretty sure he has loads of great points to make about that. Sometimes they got into it. Over the whole hour though, it was kinda rambling and felt like a missed opportunity. But that´s just me.
