I have to say if these firearms belong to you you have a very nice collection and looking at how well maintained if you ever create another channel it should be on firearms
@@lockpickinglawyer I'm not even the biggest gun guy on earth but I have to say you have a great collection would love to see a video of your gun collection as well as your lock collection one day again I don't know the first thing about luck nowhere lock-picking but I really enjoy your videos you have a very calming vibe to you which I really enjoy not to mention if I ever get into lock picking I'll be glad I spent so much time watching your videos to chill out. Are those cheap Chinese transparent locks and lock pick sets a good value for beginners? Because I would not mind giving it a try and I could acquire one of those off of dhgate for not much money if they are worth giving it a go I'm going to give it a try because your videos got me interested
Thank you so much! I just started lockpicking as a hobby and just received a bag of old locks from ebay to practice on. One of them was this very lock. I watched your video and in the time you took to explain about, pick twice I was able to pick my own lock as well. Best thing is, this is the first non acrylic practice lock I have tried and you talked me thru it. Thanks!
2:40 It also keeps the slide and frame together, if it only locked on the frame or vice versa anyone could still strip it for parts. Same goes for rifles.
As someone who owns a handful of these locks, I've always known that the best use for them would be to just put them into a tube sock to use as a mace...
I came across your channel a few years ago. I've always had a fascination with locks, and your videos fanned that flame. I bought a cheap and simple lockpicking kit that fits in my wallet. Not too long ago my dad needed to open a padlock, and thought I had the key (I'd given it back to him months before). My first attempt was to shim it with an old soda can. No go. I couldn't get the piece of aluminum in the gap at the shackle. So I pulled out my lock picks. Using the raking method (he was in a hurry) I got it after a few attempts. Thank you LPL!
@@BadWolf507 Don't underestimate 10 year olds. They are just small, not dumb. If one already interedted in picking, it will pick it. But apparently the ones that have any skill at 10 are probably smart enough already to not kill anyone by accident.
A cold chisel and 3 Lb. sledge will sever that cable in about 3 seconds. I know this because a trusted friend lost his key to the lock and asked if I could cut the cable for him. The actual cable is thin (maybe 1/16" dia.) but is covered by hardened articulating segments and that plastic cover. The chisel apparently spread the segments apart enough to allow the chisel to easily cut the thin cable.
With good quality springs, you can leave your slide locked open till the day you die and it will not harm the operation of the gun by any significant amount.
Haha funny enough I was looking at one this morning with my buddies and went “I’ll bet you could pick that with paper clips” that being said we have no idea what we are doing my father is the lock Smith I have no idea what I’m doing when it comes to that shit so even with picks we had no luck but oh well (the lock wouldn’t open with the key afterward and needed hit with a hammer before functioning again so idk if that’s our reason for failure or if our attempts caused it to quit working but doesn’t really matter now)
When he said the gun was completely disabled all I heard was chief wiggum "yeah I had sell the barrel and most of the handle to feed my family...I can throw this pretty hard!"
pins 3 & 4 already at shear line? That's a major failure of design. On another note, what's the purpose of the aluminum tape over what I presume is the serial?
Aunt lost her key to one of these and it apparently had the same key. Used the short hook from the Genesis set and I didn't even have time to work the tool all the way in before it just... opened. Maybe it saw your video and got scared! Thank you!!!
Maybe more of a display case at a pawn shop lock. Where you can let the customer hold the gun but not actuate anything. At least if they run with it, there's a bright blue thing on it.
I was surprised to see that Cabelas has shot guns on display that the public can just walk up and touch just sitting on the display racks. They only use trigger locks that look just a cheap is this.
One of the common misconceptions the people have about the locks and other security measures is that “it won’t hold against the prepared intruder”. However, while it is true, it does not mean you may just go on without the locks altogether. If the intruder is not motivated to break that particular lock, it gets an extra chance of them deciding it is not worth the effort. If the intruder is determined and decisively makes their move, even a bad lock or whatnot gives you some more time to call for help.
I just came across two locks similar to this one. Since the keys were M.I.A., and my brother was deceased, my solution was to use my small bolt cutters to cut through the cable. The cable was a joke to cut.
I guess those are used for securing a gun from being used quickly or to keep them safe from kids. After all, anyone can pull a trigger but not everyone is even a novice picker. I think that is still a lot better than an unlocked loaded gun anyone can grab or steal. In my country you are required to lock guns up securely (that must prevent from it being stolen while locked). If you have multiple firearms, you are required a standardized gun safe that is not an easy pick nor easy to open by force and usually needs to be fixed to the house to prevent the safe from being carried away.
Here we are required to use EN14450 S1 standard approved gun safes (or better) if you have multiple firearms. Standard EN 14450 regulates test methods for safes and strongboxes. A distinction is made between security levels S 1 and S 2. where S2 is slighly better The security requirements of this standard are lower than those of EN 1143-1, but higher than the requirements of VDMA 24992. The locks used for the ones I've seen seem to be lever locks like in cheaper safes. I've yet to t find details of the standard about picking resistance. (I guess that is the most interesting detail being on this channel. Sorry to dissapoint everyone) For mechanical protection it is required to be able to take quite a bit of abuse but the standard requires only protection from common hand tools like crowbars, chisels, drilling etc. Double walled door with 1/2" hinges and several side bolts seems very typical. Typical 5-6 rifle size cabinet might weight from 80 to 130 kg. I guess the weak point is the walls that are probably "easily" cut by tools like torches or plasma cutters. Typical wall thickness is perhaps something like 5 mm or so. With any hydraulic tools I could also see how those could be opened easily. They are to protect only from the common with burgler that has hand tools, lots of elbow grease and some determination unlike "real safes".
I have a Sig Saur, same blue lock. From the key, seems I'd only have to pick one pin! The other three are cut deep. Anyway when we lost the key to my wife's 9mm case, my son just set it on the ground and shot the cable with his 45. Zero skill attack.
Not sure if you read comments on old videos - I bought a P320 recently and their lock has changed slightly on the keyway. I believe it to be the same manufacturer - just a black covering instead.
I was home alone house sitting a large property in the countryside last night,.... heard some noises in the back yard and the neighbor's dog kept barking. I'm pretty sure someone was on the property. I was relieved to find that this worked!!! Much appreciated!!!! My interest in lockpicking has been fully renewed! Thanks for sharing
I've never used any of the many gun locks i have on a gun. Been a complete newb with picking the one i have but the small size gave trouble. I will have give it another look after watching this.
honestly these locks are just included not for security but just to comply with Safe Storage laws. Safe storage laws don't require your locks to be effective, just that your guns are locked to begin with.
This is a pretty standard gun lock. I have several that were shipped with Glock, Smith & Wesson, Mossberg, and Rock Island Armory. I'm sure many other companies use locks like this for compliance reasons.
At least it wasn't the wave rake...Hope Sig sees this and goes for an upgrade. And that none of the ban groups start accusing LPL of teaching children how to beat safety measures...court of public opinion passes quick sentence.
These gun lock videos are insane because you'll be going over the stupidest security flaws and then pull out the most gorgeous firearm possible to test it on
I have picked S&W, Kriss, H&K, FNH, and Springfield with a paperclip no tension wrench. These locks i do not think were intended to be secure. Though 100% more secure than nothing.
I remember hearing somewhere that the main reason why so many handguns come with these included and why they are given out for free on military bases to personnel is actually for suicide prevention. Having another step in the way of you picking up the gun and shooting yourself helps to decrease the chance you will actually do it. Granted it’s also another step between you picking up the gun and using it in self defense but ah well. One of the other major purposes for these locks is to prevent someone like your own child who might manage to find your gun from being able to hurt themselves with it. Small children aren’t typically good at picking locks. A gun safe would be better but if you are just an average Joe who owns a single handgun for home defense you might think it’s not worth the money to buy one when the gun you bought probably came with one of these. Tl;dr These locks don’t have to be great because they are primarily for childproofing and suicide prevention. They don’t replace a gun safe, they are a “it’s better than nothing” measure usually included with your handgun purchase.
certainly in a situation this will slow the criminal down they won't have time to pick the lock, but if they steal the gun then getting the lock off isn't difficult.
I'm sure these locks are shipped with the guns as part of the youth handgun act or whatever that paper that comes with them is. It's not high security but it's so you have zero excuse to let a kid access a most kids will not be a lock picking lawyer, nor will they have immediate access or knowledge of basic wire cutters. It's a low security detergent for the curious and opporutunistic.
I don't think that lock is to prevent thieves but instead kids. I believe the reason firearms are shipped with the lock is because a kid was killed and the family lobied to have locks come with guns. It may not stop a thief but stopping a 4 year is important too
I have a couple of that style lock for my glock and my Smith. They are good for young child protection, which is my main focus as I have 2 under six. I will not trust the trigger well locks even with an empty firearm, heard too many stories of accidental discharges with that type "protection."
I have two guns, they gave me one of these each one. It's not a good lock, in fact im surprised the second one even took that long to pick, but it's not meant to be an anti-pick lock. It's just a very basic safety tool more than anything else, preventing little kids from accidentally firing it since the slide cant close, for example.
The gun shop sold me an sig sauer gun with a gun lock. I also bought a pelican case for my handgun. Thankfully I placed the gun lock on the case first… turned out they gave me the wrong key 😅 I didn’t have time to go back so now I’m just trying to pick the gun lock or cut it off.
There's a dump somewhere in Louisiana that's full of these kinds of locks from me... Every time I buy a gun the first 2 things that get thrown in the trash is these locks and the brushes they ship with them as well... LOL If you want to keep someone from using your gun when they ain't supposed to buy a safe if you don't want to buy a safe teach them about guns so they don't play with them!!!
I'm a total noob with no skill. I bought a lot of 6 different gun safety locks off eBay for practice. Beretta, Ruger, Savage, Marlin, etc. "brands." One was a model CL-885, very similar to this. Within 30 minutes of receiving them today I had picked them all. The only challenge was the tiny keyways on some of the 30mm locks and being able to tension them.
I guess you have some sort of gun safe for your fire arms. If you do have a safe do you still use these locks for extra protection when they are inside the safe.
It wouldn't be for "extra" protection per se; but rather a legal requirement. Even if guns are locked up, often local laws require that they still have some sort of lock on them. Practically speaking. If someone were to get into the safe. They wouldn't be able to use the firearm until they got the lock off. But once they're in the safe, they can just steal the firearm and worry about the lock later. Ultimately it would all depend on the intruder's intentions and the scenario they find themselves in. A theft wants a quick grab and run. Someone who intends to do harm, would come prepared.
NO JOKE! He said a novice could pick this, and I have one that came with one of my SIGs. I decided to try picking it. I couldn't manage with paper clips, so I decided to just stick a pen's clip (Like, to clip it onto your pocket) basically a thin strip of metal down the keyway and jiggle. IT OPENED! I PICKED IT WITH A SHANK! I HAVE NEVER PICKED A LOCK BEFORE!(Well, I shimmed a lockbox once....) This lock is hilariously vulnerable to picking!
Hey I like the videos And I also like your gun collection It looks like you keep them very well maintained And that's nice of you to actually comment back to people that comment on your videos
Thanks and thanks. As for comments, if you take the time to write me, it's only courteous to return the favor. That said, I'm reaching the point where this is unsustainable. Hundreds of comments a day is tricky to keep up with.
AWESOME REVIEW L.P.L. MOST HAND GUNS CAN BE BROKE DOWN IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AND REASSEMBLE IN MATTER SECONDS LAST THING I WOULD DO IS ADD A LOCK MY OPINION ONLY .IT TAKES LONGER TO GET A KEY AND OPEN A LOCK.OR STORE THE BOLT SEPARATED .I KNOW SOME REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE IT LOCK WITH CABLE..THANKS FOR SHOWING. 😎😎😎😎😎
What do you use to lock your guns up it would be cool to see what you do so people can have an idea of good gun storage and proper edict. I also love to see how other people do it so I can improve the way I secure mine.
@LockPickingLawyer I have a question: I have 2 of these same locks although possibly newer versions because mine have a drill plate covering the entire bottom of the lock, with a recessed core. The drill plate also has a shaped opening that seems to intend to allow for the inserted key to rotate, only in the appropriate direction, and anything larger to be blocked from turning. Nevertheless I have managed to open both locks a few times but not consistently. I don't have any reason to believe there are security pins, but there is a weird oddity that both locks have that I would like your thoughts on. The oddity is that the cores are not stable. There are a few degrees of rotation allowed without the key in. Interestingly, if the core is rotated those few degrees off 12 o'clock, the pins seize and the key cannot be inserted. The result is that under tension, thr core is turned those few degrees and all of the pins are incredibly stiff, so much so they deformed my pick. The only time the pins are appropriately springy and moveable is when the core is at 12 o'clock, which it cannot be while under tension. Somehow I was (as I said) able to pick both locks anyway a few times, but I heavily damaged my pick and do cannot repeat my success at will. I've watched a LOT of your videos (great work btw) but haven't seen anything addressing this specific issue. It's similar to a false set, only it occurs by default even without any pins set. Sorry for the long question but I had to try providing as much detail without any visual aids. I hope I succeeded, and you can offer some insight. Thanks in advance.
nothing that even a novice picker would have any trouble opening at all **me** sitting here trying to pick my exact same lock model from the same firearm for the last hour unsuccessfully so that was a lie
Try thrift stores to pick up locks cheaply that people have donated sans keys. I saw a bunch of these in a Goodwill, but have seen other bike locks, padlocks & door locks, too.
These are just gun makers and sellers checking a bureaucratic/legal checkmark. If you don't have to pass through security, they're good for safing guns during transport. Keep especially young kids and kids that don't have a knack for breaking things out. Their best use is practice for novice lockpicking hobbyists I guess.
The locks included with guns (because the law requires it) are the cheapest pieces of sh!t imaginable. It doesn't matter what brand gun you buy, the lock will be junk.
Sig Sauer may not be the company that made the lock, but if they're distributing the lock with their firearms, then they are indicating their support for it and their belief that it is of sufficient quality.
I mean... we have seen worse gun locks for more money on this channel before 😅 At least you need to pick anything here 😅 And since Sig Sauer gives it to every gun, you cpuld consider it basically the packaging of the gun 😂 good enough to bring it home like this, but then you should put it into the real gun safe... The problem just starts, when people think, that this is good enough for long term use....
All the cable locks locking boxes and clamshell trigger locks all suck I can get into them with a pick about as fast as with the key.I have a real issue with this as so many people are anti gun , you would think that a firearms company would be more responsible. Just saying.
Putting a squirt gun in there with some fishing weights aligned so if opened they will be disturbed you would know you do have someone. That you need to watch.
Soooo... I noticed he's having the same kind of trouble with these locks as I have: the keys are hard to remove! My key is stuck in my lock, which would make it totally impossible to use.
Re: the anti-drill plate... I would guess it's there simply because the company uses the same core for many applications and the plate is part of the general components set. Especially with it being actually attached to the core. Question: Is your baseline idea of a novice picker "Barely any practice but at least has proper picks" or "Idiot putzing around with a screwdriver and a bent paperclip or hairpin"?
I had 3 different cable gun locks that I easily cut with a pair of side cutters/wire cutters so don’t ever trust your fire arms to these garbage locks that are only provided because of a requirement imposed by anti gun legislation.
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