435D Uprated CSF Intercooler Dyno Testing 335d Evolve Tune

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We have tested CSF's N55 intercooler before on an F87 M2 with impressive results, but CSF recently informed us that it will also fit the diesel models! We were keen to see if the intercooler would have such a prominent effect on the diesel platform.
A customer came to us with an F32 435D to have a remap and the intercooler fitted. We first applied our ECU tune to get a baseline figure, then fitted the CSF Intercooler to see how much difference it would make to a tuned car.
Unfortunately the car was fitted with winter tyres so the headline figures aren't what we would expect, but as the test was done on the same tyres the gains are valid.
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@bulletkip 5 лет назад

never seen a shop make great quality videos. glad i found your channel! nice to have a cup of coffee and watch!

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks Ian. We see our selves as more than a shop as we design develop and distribute our own products too. Check out some of our other videos and subscribe if you haven't already done so 🙌

@alpinab14 5 лет назад

Have a thumbs up from me for doing a D , all the 35d cars are monsters i drive them a fair bit at work and in conjunction with x drive im always surprised the way even stock 35d,s get down the road , there so dam capable and bloody cheap on fuel as well , good job man

@kNIGHTriderryder 3 года назад

Video is straight to the point no myths no confusion just clearing the air thanks a lot just subscribed :)

@danked6731 5 лет назад

Love it, how much would the intercooler and remap be as a package?

@jazz0230 5 лет назад

Really cool info with the airflow and dyno plots!

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks! Expect more videos like this next year

@HarrysHammer 5 лет назад

Great video, it would be great if you could do this sort of thing for the 320d engine. I think alot would like to see how much power you could get from a 320d

@lycan5090 5 лет назад

Bonjour, ma 320D A Xdrive MSport a été modifié récemment, passage de la puissance de 184 cv et 380 Nm à 242 cv et 493 Nm de couple afin d'optimiser les performances du turbo , je viens de commander un wagner Intercooler compétition , je devrais récupérer couple et gain mais surtout fiabiliser le moteur avec plus d'air frais et de conserver son rendement , restera le passage au banc, actuellement j'ai l'impression d'avoir changé de voiture avec un couple présent à très bas régime sans rétrograder

@DodgeCity111 4 года назад

Good honest review here. I've owned a remapped 335xd for over a year now and considered putting a big intercooler on for a while. I decided on the CSF 8115b in this video and all I can say is I agree with this review. The car pulls harder and it appears to be more noticeable at higher rpm.

@EvolveAutomotive 4 года назад

CSF Intercooler is a huge upgrade on all the cars it fits! BMW left a lot on the table for us here.

@thibautd.8641 3 года назад

Hi gents, what about lag after intercooler upgrade? Is it noticeable? Is it increasing? Still have doubt on it before changing mine.. Thanks!

@DodgeCity111 3 года назад

@@thibautd.8641 If you've got 6 or 7 hundred burning a hole in your pocket then go right ahead, if not then don't bother. The best value hp is through a remap.

@thibautd.8641 3 года назад

@@DodgeCity111 thanks mate! And in terms of lag, not increasing?

@DodgeCity111 3 года назад

@@thibautd.8641 I didn't notice any more lag. It did seem to have more pull at higher rpm but this wasn't dyno verified, maybe I just wanted to feel more power.

@magnaballuk1913 5 лет назад

I absolutely love what you do and have achieved mashallah. Your the reason im selling my mercedes e350 coupe and buying a 335d m sport😎😎😁😁, see you in a few months👍🏼👍🏼

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks 😊

@albaniansk8er 4 года назад

That’s what I did. Too

@andywhite1636 5 лет назад

These kind of videos are ideal! If you could do links and rough costings on them would be appreciated

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks! Link to the product is in the description. 👌

@theequalizer3330 4 года назад

Well now you can explain to my wife why I’m getting a 335d 😁

@craighill1164 11 месяцев назад

Videos like this make me want to tune my 335d 😍 unfortunatley I’m the only bread winner in our house so times are hard 😏

@zokizoran 8 месяцев назад

Great video thank you for this much appreciated! I have a 2015 bmw X5 35d and just bought a performance intercooler. It has the delete and malone stage 2 tune, hoping to get similar results.

@ianhuntington9056 3 года назад

640d is the same as 335d / 435d in f30 terms, N57 engine and ZF8HP70 auto, beware the HP70,, it has a 700nm limit and remaps well exceed this, and around 7grand to replace it.....the new g20 series are completely different and use the newer B series engines I believe............could do with more info on this torque limit as its stopping me having one

@xpresed 4 года назад

Hey Tony from South Africa here. We get alot of diesel's too so I'm glad to have found your channel. What data logging tools and analysis software do you use?

@k9jsb224 5 лет назад

*Evolve* has become legit as fuck *#International*

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Haha - thanks. We've been international since 2011 when we launched in the USA but RU-vid is giving us more exposure.

@MrRaptor35 2 года назад

Very impressive indeed, looking at comments below, all good, for those that have had maps on this car, how are the DPF's holding out due to mapping, getting my 335d after Xmas, this seems a great little tune with big gains 😁😁😁

@akatheboy1071 4 года назад

Looking at getting my 335 d stage two with intercooler what can I expect from it and what kind of price for this to be done

@stephenzuchowski5754 5 лет назад

Another solid Video, what would you expect to see from a f30 330d xdrive? 👌

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks! Around 330 BHP and 500 lb.ft torque.

@danparaschivoiu8620 3 года назад

Mine has 380 hp and 720 nm , 530d hybrid turbo 3.5 injectors this intercooler 🤩 and a good remap, straight pipe also

@adamdar5121 4 года назад

273bhp ????? These are standard 313bhp. Surely winter tyres should not make that much of a difference

@EvolveAutomotive 4 года назад

On a dyno they can make a huge difference. A lot of energy is lost as the softer rubber compound flexes against the roller. One day I want to do an in-depth video explaining how dyno figures can be changed by conditions, so it would be fun to compare them back to back on the same car.

@Jrk450 Год назад

How much more cm3 capacity does the csf intercooler have over OEM ?

@davis7323 4 года назад

Interesting, so same car with a same tune. Just by installing a fmic, it's safe to expect some gains.

@lorsamadey2435 4 года назад

Did you remove the dpf ?

@09BIJAN09 5 лет назад

Here’s a question you may get a lot. CSF or Wagner? Which one would you recommend? Thanks.

@maximilianwerkmeister4003 4 года назад

Wagner

@vp5 4 года назад

This csf intercooler looks like it could fit an e90 335d? No one seems to make one for the 335d only the e90 335i

@peterwood2633 5 лет назад

So as per their box are CSF OEM manufacturers for intercoolers?

@iifunkymonkeyii3576 Год назад

Awesome. Does the 5.5" IC push back the rad fan at all? My mechanic as saying it protrudes 1/2" beyond the radiator and doesn't fit my 435xi. Appreciate your advice.

@EvolveAutomotive Год назад

We haven’t experienced that yet. It’s a very tight fit and does require trimming from memory - Check CSFs install advice.

@mwilliams8469 5 лет назад

Hi Guys - interesting video. I have a 535d (313PS) which will soon be coming out of warranty - so looking at an ECU remap. Could the CSF intercooler and re-map be applied to my 535d also (obviously a re-map could be applied - but wondering about the general layout and therefore fitting the CSF as well) ?? Many thanks

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Hi Mark, we would need to check how BMW mounted the intercooler in the 535D to let you know how likely it is to fit. If you email sales@evolveautomotive.com one of my colleagues will be happy to assist you.

@tarmacsurfers 5 лет назад

Hope u have a great News Years boyzzzzz 🤘🏻

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Cheers! You too. 👌

@Jr-gf3br 3 года назад

Was that with dpf or with dog removed? Thanks

@AulitzkyTuningGmbH 5 лет назад

Good Video 😊👌

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Danke bro 😎👌😁

@garystephens7997 5 лет назад

Great video thx Have you got any dyno figures on tuned M2 with S55 (M2 Competition) how close can you get to tuned M3 power Thx mate

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks! We can make the same power on the M2C that we can on the M3.

@treeseries 5 лет назад

I’m currently looking for a 435d and with your two mods above having such impressive gains is there no market for air intakes etc as I’m struggling to find any for sale. Would you recommend any further mods or just these 2.

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

We haven't seen any gains from an intake so far. These two are more than good enough

@NotScent 4 года назад

I dont get this video did u do this intercooler change on 435D? The product on The website you have on The decreption There is no compatible intercooler for 435d only says 435i

@EvolveAutomotive 4 года назад

Yes it was fitted to a 435D, the product is listed in the 435D section of our website and has all the applicable applications listed in the product description. www.evolveautomotive.com/csf-high-performance-intercooler-bmw-f87-m2.html

@pjagger69 5 лет назад

Do you have a similar comparison for the S55 with the csf charge cooler?

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Going to do that video next month hopefully.

@chrisg4rr377 5 лет назад

It would be interesting to see how the intake cokes up over time with the CSF cooler on. With a lower intake temperature it may even cycle the EGR less to keep the intake track cleaner

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

What would be the difference between lowering the IAT with the intercooler and the same car being in a country with lowe ambient temps making the IAT the same?

@77chatham 5 лет назад

Before I watch this all I can say is a lot of torque.

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

They sure do have a lot

@gordoncrouch9943 5 лет назад

@@EvolveAutomotive what was torque figure on 335d with intercooler?

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

@@gordoncrouch9943 it gained 25 lb.ft torque at the top end with just adding the intercooler.

@so_ldn 5 лет назад

Nice vid. Would the same IC fit the 430d?What kinda gains would you expect to see with your map and IC combo?

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Yes it does. Should be around 330-340 bhp

@uppercutz9474 4 года назад

I thought 435D’s have 313bhp stock and stage one gets them to around 380/90 easy

@RobHolroyd 4 года назад

I don't think this has had a DPF delete. They need it gutting or bypassing to hit 380+ but will hit that on the standard cooler.

@uklmngubane5661 Год назад

Please create intakes for the n57

@TheCinderellaman10 2 года назад

Are the csf intercoolers even better then the wagner comp 2 intercooler? I heard the csf is the largest intercooler which cab be fitted to the 335d xdrive

@EvolveAutomotive 2 года назад

Haven’t directly compared the two, very happy with the CSF offering.

@adambaca4806 4 года назад

Hello would you advise me some exhaust system for BMW 435d (2017) with good sound.

@Sefyuyu 3 года назад

Buy an M4

@ShalomBrother 5 лет назад

Surely stripping a bit more of the car off would make removal and instillation a lot easier? Looked a right struggle to me

@k9jsb224 5 лет назад

Looked fine to me.. It’s not exactly Lego 😂

@dascenter6364 5 лет назад

Yea just remove the full front bumper. Turn the job from 30mins to 3 hours to make it alot easier

@peterfrancis651 5 лет назад

Would you recommend an uprated intercooler for a m235i running a jb+. Its only a modest increase in boost and bhp?.

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Yes 100%.

@user-ck4qr4qv1r Год назад

whats a rough price for this ? csf intercooler and a map on a 435d ?

@EvolveAutomotive Год назад

Please email sales@evolveautomotive.com

@tonidabbraccio8169 3 года назад

Hi, us it worth upgrading 430d without the tune as car is still under warranty for another 2 years?

@EvolveAutomotive 3 года назад

You would see some benefit, but not as much as when tuned I imagine. Must admit we haven’t tested it in that configuration.

@MrJDuzz 4 года назад

Got f34 335d remapped. But looking into stage 2 now. Looking for a little info on recommendations. Cheers guys.

@EvolveAutomotive 4 года назад

Please email sales@evolveautomotive.com 🙌🏻

@samcas707 5 лет назад

If you did the same back to back test with the csf hardware on an f8x, you’d be first to do it, and that’s including csf

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

That's coming!

@khowe000 5 лет назад

Cool vid, but you forgot to attach the chargepipes lol jk. Made it look too easy !

@kinggrimlock35 5 лет назад

Can you tune it mine? I have the 2018 M2 mineral grey. I live in Chicago Illinois USA. I want the full cat back exhaust, air intakes, intercooler and stage 2 boost.

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Yes sure we can. Please email sales@evolveautomotive.com

@treeseries 5 лет назад

Would this intercooler fit the 640d or is there one for that specifically? 14 reg

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Couldn’t say for sure, would need to check BMW part numbers, even then there may be something different meaning it wouldn’t fit etc.

@Gentlemen_london_ 5 лет назад

Very impressive! 👌🎩

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Definitely a good package 👌

@richardtrow2751 5 лет назад

Good gains with an intercooler I've got a Forge intercooler and pipes etc on my M135i I'm looking at sports cat / de cat now any suggestions.

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Yes the CSF works really well. Check our out website for downpipe options for your car

@nevaloseheart 5 лет назад

Should be running near 400 bhp and over 600 ftlbs with a uprated IC. I Wonder how these compare to a wagner IC? How much are they?

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

The gain is correct from the map. Winter tires make both pre and post reading lower than they should be but gains exactly what we expect. Usually we would except closer to 400 when the stock car makes 330 plus bhp. Not had any experience with Wagner . The CSF is £660 Inc vat.

@starletburkie 2 года назад

Any changes to the tune after the intercooler was fitted?

@EvolveAutomotive 2 года назад

None at all

@starletburkie 2 года назад

@@EvolveAutomotive any gains to be had if tune was altered after fitting?

@thibautd.8641 3 года назад

Hi gents, what about lag after intercooler upgrade? Is it noticeable? Is it increasing? Still have doubt on it before changing mine.. Thanks!

@EvolveAutomotive 3 года назад

Haven't noticed in our N55 which uses the same intercooler.

@thibautd.8641 3 года назад

@@EvolveAutomotive thanks for the feedback guys ☺️

@straightupautomotive 2 года назад

But you had no fan blowing through the intercooler 🤔

@EvolveAutomotive 2 года назад

Yes we did, we always have a fan running when dyno’ing. Creates a wind speed of about 90mph and will bend a bonnet back on its hinges. Setup was exactly the same for before and after.

@mickclare6766 7 месяцев назад

How much for the csf intercooler

@EvolveAutomotive 7 месяцев назад

www.evolveautomotive.co.uk/products/csf-high-performance-intercooler-bmw-f87-m2?_pos=2&_sid=7a9076db2&_ss=r

@paulosamogudo6535 5 лет назад

Nice glasses... 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Thanks! People love them or hate them 😂

@tausifshaikh7104 5 лет назад

What's better a wagner intercooler or a csf 1

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

In our experience CSF

@tanvirhussain6106 5 лет назад

Whats the cost of the intercooler out of the box

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

£660 inc VAT

@Tazmannn12345 5 лет назад

What's better tho wagner or csf

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

CSF, no doubt

@hassansadiq5822 5 лет назад

Where abouts is the car from I think I’ve seen it before lol

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Not sure TBH

@pyton75 5 лет назад

Are you able to tune the g30 530d?

@EvolveAutomotive 5 лет назад

Not yet but very soon

@derekporter66 5 лет назад

@@EvolveAutomotive Any idea on rough figures?

@vadimdon 5 лет назад

273 bhp stock. Wtf my tuned 123d makes that on the dyno

@marcines9591 4 года назад

My f11 535d makes 368hp 709Nm on stock intercooler...

@michaelmcdermott9445 4 года назад

Then it'd make even more with a better intercooler...

@Jr-gf3br 4 года назад

Disappointing results to be truthful. Meant to be nearly 310 standard without a map.

@EvolveAutomotive 4 года назад

As explained in the video, winter tyres read considerably lower. More important is the delta, not the figures.

@Jr-gf3br 4 года назад

Evolve Automotive I totally understand What tyres and tyre size would maintain the standard power and does the tyre air pressure have any affect? Thanks and prior to bringing my car to yourself I would make the necessary adjustments on tyres etc so I can hopefully see the 400bhp mark hence why I asked the above question 😎 Looking forward to your reply