440 Long Ram Dyno Test - TOO MUCH Torque! 

I worked at the Chrysler Highland Park Engineering Center from 1966 to 1992 and ran a Performance Dyno. Up until 1975 the dyno operator was in the room with the engine where we ran power runs up to 6000 rpm. The power run lasted about an hour and there was no automated data acquisition. NO protection whatsoever except for a propshaft guard. What glorious days.

I don’t know if people realize how fortunate we are that Nick makes these videos. This knowledge and experience would otherwise be lost forever. It’s video treasure.

That torque at that RPM is like diesel numbers. Amazing

Not just a low rpm torque monster that's the coolest looking motor I've ever seen from any car company it's a bonus being a 440 Mopar totally badass Chrysler engineering and know how

Amazing Torque , and the comfort of the Corinthian Leather , could You imagine the tv commercial for this if it was a factory set up back in the day 😂👍

Watching that linkage twist from the top is like the coolest thing

My grampa had this engine in his car and one night while drinking in Kenosha Wisconsin he was heading back to Illinois when the police attempted to make a traffic stop! Well being the good ol boy he was he floored it leaving the officer in the dust! Knowing he was heading for the state line Kenosha police radioed to the Winthrop Harbor Police stating they need help with a car flying their direction! Well gramps tore the gears out of his transmission near the state line and coasted into Illinois! As expected the police were a waiting and watched as the car rolled into town! The officer pulled up behind him parked on the side of the road and said we’ve been hearing about a hot car evading the boys across the border and honestly this car couldn’t outrun me on foot! The officer gave gramps a ride home to get his truck and actually followed him to make sure he got the car home safely! Things sure have changed!

I have a 440 Magnum (out of a 1969 Chrysler Imperial) with this same Long Ram induction, crammed into my 1970 Dodge Dart. It’s super torquey.

It is a torque monster, but that Dyno pulls it down pretty good, Nick good job my man I love watching you. You are a true old school technician. We are fortunate to have you and able to learn so much from watching it and listening to you. Stay golden my man.

It's another Monday, and we have a long ram tube setup on the dyno, this time on a 440. I'm very anxious to see what kind of torque this engine can produce at 3000 RPM. I haven't see so many long ram intakes in a long time. It's like being back in the 60's again. You just never know what you will see on Nick's Garage. Let her rip Nick.

Thank you Nick for reminding me of a older friend of mine who used to collect these kind of motors and the older Hemis and when he passed he left them all to me Thank you Steve Row hope you are RIP your friend Spud Grant!

I always thought these Mopar engines with twin 4 barrel carburetors and the crazy long intake manifolds look awesome!

It's been 57 years since I've seen a 413 with duel quads on a long runner manifold! This 440 with the duel quads and long runner manifold has been fantastic to watch today! Beautiful engine with a lot of muscle!

I'm digging these cross Rams

Pickup truck and C-body guys should all use these intakes. Wow. I'd sure like to see what would happen with a 540 stroker with this setup.

This manifold is the original version, with the tuned ram tubes going all the way from the plenum under the carbs to the heads. They were tuned for peak torque at 2800 rpm. When they proved great on the street but not right for the drag strip, Chrysler then cast up some more of them, but with shorter runners (such as on the Chrysler 300-J ) that Nick just ran some dyno tests on. In the last 6 weeks Nick has been blessed with the "short-short" max wedge version tuned for 4400 rpm, with the "long-short" version tuned for 4400 rpm for the 300-J he's been working on, and now the "long-long" version tuned for 2800 rpm. Most MoPar vintage engine shops will never see even one of these manifold sets, much less all 3. Actually, many MoPar engine builders may not even be aware of them, because they go back to 1959-1964 and only we "old-timers" would have been exposed to them. Note that Nick normally starts his dyno pulls at 2500 rpms, but here he can't get a good reading under 3000 revs, the Superflow 902 dyno can't deal with that much low end torque. UPDATE: While watching this video the 2nd time around, I noticed that the aluminum heads were Edelbrock E-Street models, which are good heads, but not anything wild or special, so the engine is making HUGE torque with basically a close equivalent to stock heads. Also, I didn't catch it before, but Nick was saying these carbs were just 500 cfm each. Recall from the Max wedge test about a month ago, it had dual Carter / Edelbrock carbs of 750 cfm each, and Nick was commenting the 750s were too big. Maybe they'd even have allowed more power if they were just the 500 cfm units like this car has. Or maybe 600 cfm units. UPDATE #2: at the end of this video, Nick and Manny managed to trick the dyno a little bit more, and they came away with 569 lbs / ft of torque at 3000 rpms. Still, Nick entered on the computer to start the test at 2500 rpm, but the dyno just couldn't measure any HP or torque under 3000 rpm, no matter what they did. When looking at the power and torque curves on a graph, and working backwards, it looked to them that the final torque number at just under 3000 rpm was going to be 575 (!!) pounds / ft of torque.

The infamous Helmholtz effect. It actually works and works well. German four and six cylinder engines started doing this in the 1960's to great effect. What is happening is that the charge rushes through the long tube, gaining speed. When it hits the closed intake valve, it bounces back and hits the charge coming from the carburetor, then bounces back again toward the intake valve. It hits the now open valve at exactly the right time at low RPM, essentially supercharging the engine. Volumetric efficiency can reach nearly 100 percent when this is done right. Long narrow tubes are good for low RPM cylinder filling, while short fat ones are good for high RPM.

nick's team did a beautiful job on restoring this advanced engine. 550 ft/lbs shows the Chrysler engineers back in the day really knew their stuff. You are going to have to put 4 tires on the real axle to use it unless you don't mind changing out tires every 50 miles. That really is amazing Nick. , you created a beautiful monster. Your show is a master class in engine rebuilding.

I am close to 76yrs. Old. This is my first time seeing the long ram. They are very impressive. Thank you very much. I really enjoy all of your segments.

Absolutely incredible. That is Efficiency at its finest right there.

The engineers knew what they needed to do to get a heavy axxed car moving! It was the ultimate design for performance to rapidly move a 5,000+lb car!! And then they built the ultimate balance between vehicle weight and engine performance....."the 426 Hemi"!!! Maybe not really understanding at the time, but what a memory to have to have lived through that time period! Yep...I am old. (But I am blessed!!) I've forgotten more than I remember! Thanks for the memories Nick!!

Gotta love Manny he's Nick right hand man..

Amazing, all that torque without a stroker, the long ram is awesome and all without nitrous, supercharger, blower. Naturally aspirated

Just goes to show you, Chrysler Engineer's had an awesome idea! Torque is king, horsepower is only a "top end" thing. I maybe a Ford person, but Mopar still is the bomb!

Mopar engineers weren't afraid of pushing the limits of understanding and building off of what they learned to make some outstanding pieces of mechanical genius and art!

Thank you Nick! The 440 line is legendary. This is a perfect example of why a stock 440 can always blow minds. With nothing else than a carb mod , you got everything from a tractor to a rocket. It's no wonder Chrysler had space program contracts back in the day.

Man oh man!!!!! Nearly 600 lb-ft of torque around 3000-ish, this’ll give the 455 Buick fits!!!! These long ram manifolds could become a hot trend among the classic Mopar crowd if this keeps up: wonder how many other guys still work with them. George, if you would, ask Nick and Manny if they could give a short explanation of how a dyno does what it does. Thanks for another fantastic video session at Nick’s garage!!!!

We all love different manufacturers but we all love horsepower! Great video!

Brings back memories… I put a cross ram induction system with twin four barrel carbs on my ‘69 Charger back in the day… I could drop to 2nd gear at 55 mph and lay a streak of rubber on the interstate.

That thing is gorgeous. The old school 440 with that exotic long ram dual 4 set up is magic. Then the full modern accessory package is the the perfect combination for the Cordoba to be the ultimate luxury look, nightmare.👏👏👏👍

Nick says, I did it with a small block, the Dyno tech says Nick, Nick, this is a STUMP puller. Lol. 😅😅😅

When I saw the thumbnail for this video I immediately checked the runners to see if they were the long "long" ram manifolds like Nick said on the short long rams. Just like he said they were. I love these dyno vids, 569 lbs torque at 3, grand?! Talk about being able to pass school buses quickly!

Thanks George! I noticed the lights!! It's nice to have options! Just got here and ready to see the dyno results on this 440! So cool!

That engine is a tire shredder no matter what car it goes into. WOW! Very cool Nick, Manny and George. Thanks for sharing this beast with us. Stay safe all, God Bless.

May need a Tractor or Truck Dyno for this application. They operate at lower RPM. 🙂 Nice job Nick. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.

When I was a kid our neighbor had a Dodge. He would tape a $5 to the dash and say, "When I hit the gas...if you can grab that, it's yours to keep". I don't think anyone ever got that five spot. My early introduction to torque.

A long ram and Corinthian leather! Great combo! It is great to see folks are now giving Cordoba's some love!👍

Some of the best classic vehicle engines known from Chrysler and they are always at Nick's Garage.😊

A great way to start my evening.

Had a '72 Chrysler New Yorker Sleeper with this intake setup... 4-6 MPG City 11MPG Highway on 98 leaded octane. it used to eat corvettes for breakfast! Never forget the sound of the 2 carbs @WOT

Another build that I've been wanting to see. A 440 with ram induction system!

There is nothing better than a Mopar that has the expertise of Nick's Garage to get dialed in. Canada 🍁 has a real gem! This engine looks like a boxer in a three piece suit.

Look at Nick getting excited, he's seen so much in his life time that it takes a lot to excite him and that excites me. At our age he and i together have seen MORE than most yet not as much as others. It does do the old SOULS JUSTICE to receive comprehension at this level. Thanks too all the above.

Props to Nick for going the extra mile and making a period-correct Mopar commercial with himself as the star.

Love that dancing clamp roaming around

Great show Nick, really enjoyed this one. I built a 440 in a 1975 New Yorker again the 440 was a torgue monster. Spent my mechanical youth money on the Direct Connection Catalogue.

this is what i call an engine with class. it does just what it is supposed to do . good work Nick your the best.

What a beast of a motor💪. As usual Nick and crew always bring the best content. Best show on utube.

This Long Ram induction really is a work of art and this engine would literally pull houses down with its massive tyre frying torque! Great video of an epic Mopar big block 👍

Would love to have a set up like this in a earlyy 70's power wagon tow rig

Gotta tell you Nick, this episode was SUPER interesting, thanks.

Nick, I just wanted to say I love your videos. I dont restore cars anymore but man I love when you fix / teardown /dyno engines. FYI...In 1978 I was 18 years old and my second car ever was a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T with the 383 Magnum. Slapstick automatic. LOVED that car. Please keep making these videos !!!

Talk about a torque monster!

Anyone need any old stumps pulling out? 😁 Thanks Nick, George and Manny!! What a monster with long rams it is.

I tried exactly what you"re trying to do; install a RB w/long ram into the last b-body generation. I bought a 28K mile loaded 1979 Chrysler Cordoba Brougham back in 85. It had the anemic 318 lean burn, 904 & 8 ¼ rear. Took me 9 months to built her the Right way. 512 cu based off a 440. 12.5:1 comp, I also hogged out & ported a set of 906 heads on my homemade flow bench (built from a 3 part article in Car Craft back then, along with a 727 HEMI trans, Fairbanks reverse man trans, 3200 stall, 8 ¾ w. 4.10, adjus.....you know where this is going. The list of parts was long but the car looked bone stock. She put out 585 HP to the rear wheels and 471 lb/ft of torque. Suffice it to say that the original power booster, master cyl. & fender braces had to get gone. We installed an Wilwood reverse throw brake set-up off my buddy's dirt track car under the dash to take her out for her maiden run. She screamed and got loose going into 3rd. With all that GO the Wilwood set-up was too weak; which really surprised me. I ended up getting my money back on the long ram; luckily the guy was nice enough to undo the sale; which was only 3 days old. Ended up going with a 1000cfm ThermoQuad on a shaved Team G intake. She had quite a short life but for the year I had her; it was awesome.

Great video Nick! I am amazed at the torque numbers coming from that 440 long ram induction. I've never seen # like those at such a low RPM. See you next 🕙

Great show today Nick and George, and I always love Manny’s input! 🚗 💨

That engine is a BEAST! Thanks for sharing it with us!!

I'm a long time Mopar guy, but I sure learn a lot on Nick's videos. I never knew the difference between the two long rams, the 413, and the 440 ram seen here.

Very interesting design, I remember when my dad had his 1962 - 300-H convertible, what a great car

10:00 Your Dyno is different than our SuperFlow, we have a separate ball valve besides the absorber adjuster valve, which you can use to put additional water into the absorber. I've had a few lower RPM big blocks over the years that I needed to open that valve to "capture" the engine for lower RPM tests. Most common are the 502/540 BBC's for marine applications.

That 440 has so much torque, probably the only tires that won't spin would be the proper size slicks. The only thing is you wouldn't be able to drive in on the street. What a BEAST!

Awesome! Dads 1964 plymouth fury, borg t-10, 5.13 gears cheater slicks. 1959 413 with long rams, big cam. Broke a bellhousing at 7500 rpm. Took trophy home hp/ci class at bunker hill dragstrip in Indiana in the 60's against 427s 426s all in the class. Fast forward to the 1990"s my green 1970 newport named "Marge" 8.2:1 440, 4:10 gears experimental cam 7 in of vacuum. front wheels up high leaving in 2nd on full manual 727! Blew thru the 6500 rev limiter. Now on a 400 in a 1968 monaco 4.56 gears More to come with a 413 long ram in a dragster.... I can't complement you enough, Nick!

That was so fun to watch Nick! Thank you!

Awesome another long ram intake!!! Digging it Mr. Nick, always great content Sir, thanks.

Gotta love Nick's garage! Real old school knowledge 👌

This is a great video and explanation of torque and the long ram induction system! It’s awesome! Great work Indy Auto and George! Take care from Sask!

You've done well setting up the carbs so there is virtually zero bog. 👌👌👌👌

Thanks Nick! Super fun build. Got to love these torque monsters. I had a 1970 eldorado convertible with the 500cid. Same thing. 535 ft lbs of torque. Could get a little wild with the front wheel drive.

That's why in the '60s when I grew up my dad went out and started the car half hour before we left anywhere in the winter here in Michigan

It's unfortunate that we can't see the true peak number, but this guy has the ultimate bragging rights being able to say that his engine made so much torque it literally couldn't be measured... and you can give him the paperwork to prove it!

Getting in there to choke the carbs by hand to get the thing warmed up is some dedication. That thing is a BEAST

Another great show you guys made my monday thank you

My parents had a '76 Cordoba with the 360 2-barrel. I was looking up the biggest engine option which was the 400 4-barrel, and it "only" had ~320 ft-lb!!! While the Cordoba was fairly heavy, the Imperial could really have used this setup given it was 1500 lbs heavier.

The 1970 Buick for 455 stage one had about 500 foot pound torque a little over 400 hp. It was the ultimate sleeper with the right wheels you got that car in the high 12s that’s what this reminds me off.

I love it! My brother had that on a 440 in a short bed 73 D 100. It was awesome!!😊

Gives new meaning to the word 'serpentine.' What a cool looking engine.

“Rich Corinthian leather..” ‘75 Cordoba with that engine I like Mark’s thinking.

Awesome.. Love the passion towards the low end torque

Smokey Yunick: Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.

Good Job Nick.......MONSTER torque!!!!!

Amazing numbers! Oh my goodness I remember it was the 70s Ricardo Montalban came on TV advertising Cordoba with its Corinthian leather my mom and dad both fell in love 1976 there was a brand new one in the yard the old man just had to have it Mom just loved it what a childhood memory right there⛽️🇺🇸

What an amazing project. That was so cool Thank you 👍👍👍👍

I’m just here thinking about that Engine going into a ‘77 Chrysler Cordoba , the one with “The rich Corinthian Leather” . I remember watching an episode I believe of Saturday night Live , where Ricardo and Tattoo were doing a parody of Fantasy Island , where Ricardo said he wanted Tattoo to “ Get into that Cordoba , and drive it over the cliff into the ocean” , to which Tattoo replied ,” But boss, I’ll be killed “ !! Ricardo gets a knowing smile across his face & responds “ Well, that’s MY fantasy Tattoo”😆👍. Cannot get away with that kind of off candid humor anymore these days unfortunately. Great engine build by the way . Thanks for posting this one 👍

Awesome Engine buid , when I had my 1970 455 buick stage 1 made it a 462 what a torque monster

Wow, could just imagine how much more TQ that would make if it were a Stroker as well as having the heads and intake ported, Nick that is one Fantastic Engine, hope you get the Dyno straightened out

My dad's friend had a very similar setup, long rams, 440... in an A body (70 dart swinger). Even better is he smoothed out the long rams and had them chromed which looked amazing. Definitely one of the coolest looking intakes ever on a car. In my mind with modern hotrodding tricks I'd like to see someday someone weld bungs for port fuel injection, 4bbl throttle bodys with 90* hats being feed by some twin turbos in the bay. Would look awesome.

Love your channel. The enthusiasm and vast knowledge you have is extraordinary, no computers here, listening, seeing and feeling. Experiece, Here we go !

I've toyed with the thought of simply putting a 5.9 Magnum into an early 80's Cordoba along with the A518 and the 3.55 axle from a Ram. My folks had a 1980 and I loved that car.

That's cool! Another cross flow just as you finished the other. Crash course on these motors I guess! Rare intakes !! Thanks Nick from Cape Cod 😁🙏they should have used that setup in trucks 👍

Hot Heads! They sent us (Chrysler JTE) a 354 Hemi with 555 heads with only 18,000 miles for prototyping analysis for the Gen III Hemi. Running it on port fuel injection, and a stock JTEC engine controller, it made 385hp. 40hp more than the 5.9L Magnum premium fuel tune right out of the box. Hot Heads are the BOMB!

Back in 1978 I had a 71 Swinger with a 440 and these manifolds. I used two AFBs 500s and hooker fenderwells. Had to remove the casting for the water heating to fit over the shock towers. Incredible watching you guys drooling over the torque. Yep torque was king and no RPM needed. Actually at 4500 RPM it would start to lean out. I worked for a Chrysler dealer and another older mechanic had a '63 Chrysler 300J with the original crossram on a 413. That 6000 lb car would cruise and pass anything. I sure wish I had my Dart back again. Drove it winters and summers up here in Canada and ran the AC in the summer.

Great Episode!!! This is an Outstanding example of using the power of natural resources without the complex turbo's or mechanical supercharging... Another very nice thing about this set-up, is that no intercooling is necessary. What I would also like to see , is these manifolds on this engine, with a pair of 2-bbl carbs that flow between 375-425 CFM each... This way the velocity and volume of air going through those venturi's of the carbs would create very strong vacuum to better mix the fuels, and help to deliver excellent drivable torque and smooth predictable fuel metering to produce naturally aspirated very proportional torque for pulling heavy vehicles and heavy loads... Setting up an earlier 1-Ton truck with a set-up like this , would likely produce good results for trailer pulling and decent fuel economy... This induction system just might cause concern to those who sell/manufacture the overly complex current crop of diesel / compression ignition vehicles with their problematic / complex and extremely expen$ive exhaust after-treatment equipment, turbos , electronic controlled turbo controls and frequently problematic EGR systems... All that is needed is a long stroking spark ignition engine, a single ignition coil & electronic (mechanically advanced) distributor, a single fixed timed camshaft located in the block, with a long-ram induction system and the use of alternative fuels like gasoline mixed with HHO, or Natural gas mixed with HHO, or maybe Methane gas mixed with HHO...or maybe methanol mixed with HHO... The presence of HHO , when used with numerous types of fuels will produce a more complete burn , better fuel economy, more power and lower emissions... Everything that the petrol companies don't want to see take place... The technology is already here, and in this case, has been here for well over 60 years... Oh and BTW, the HHO generation equipment can be located on the vehicle, will draw relatively low amounts of electrical power to produce adequate amounts of HHO and the primary source of liguid to produce HHO can be found quite easily.. Water 💦... Which renews itself back into it's original form after the burn of fuels take place... That technology is also here as well... Right Now...

Greetings to Nick and crew! Just wanted to suggest to upgrade the dyno absorber if you are going to keep building those phenomenal torque monsters!!! Please keep it coming! Fantastic content thank you!!!

Greetings from Greece Niko ,I'm an Greek, Aussie also a Engineer M.A.N trucks,busses !

Ok this is crazy stuff. This will launch any any big car into space! Love it

I put a 413 2x4 long ram engine in my sisters 1976 Charger. Trashed the 400. Car ran high 12's at the drag strip in Killeen Tx. Back in the early 80's. She wanted to go faster!

It's been a while since I've seen nick but he never disappoints

My project car was a 1979 Chrysler Cordoba, with a 440 bored 30 over and balanced to zero. Slapped a Holley 4 barrel 1000 cfm throttle body fuel injection on it, back in the early 90's. Car frame rotted out from the inside and didn't have the funds to replace it. Wanted to go full frame from the unibody to keep it from twisting the car in half. It was running a dual plane intake, which matched the cam rpm range, theoretical numbers were 401 hp at 5200 and 450flbstq at around 3800, theoretical as I've never got a chance to get it dyno'd. The numbers were from a cam profile software based on cam specs and a 4 bbl carb on a dual plane manifold. I miss driving "The Beast", still have it but it's just rotting away in the driveway, don't have funding to do what I want, but glad I made a video of it when it was driving, from time to time I'll look at the video, it always puts a smile on my face. This video brings me back to when I was working on it. I can't work on cars anymore as it does take a toll on my back and I end up walking beside myself, literally. "The Beast" was temperamental as it didn't like to start when someone other than myself or my brother tried to start it, which made it difficult for our service station guys to do inspections on it, lol, "The Beast" as we called it had a personality, it loved being showed off at car shows. It's been 27 years since it last ran.

The very definition of beastly. Just nuckin futs. Big fun to watch, thanks for sharing!