Same even I can't have a handgun in my country, I never wanted to buy any gun and probably I won't be able to buy one because of my small mental health problems
I had to open the comments to realize this was a 6 year old video. LPL has such a cinsistent style and nailed his formula, narrating and all that years ago, I thought it was a newer upload I missed.
@@Thecarboardking I recently buyed smoke detectors that should work for 10 years and I got really angry while checking on them and waiting for any of those to beep again while the video was paused.
Would make for a nice gimmick video: lockable non-valuables. Think cookie jar, diary or toilet door. I'd definitely watch that, and with your skills, I'm certain I would be entertained.
As a teenager one of my friends showed me his mom’s gun. Freaked me out. He had slipped out the hinge bar from the back of her cheap gun lock box and opened it backwards. Unconscionable how easy they are to get into. Thanks for exposing this industry and really cool solution here.
Firearm safety begins with responsible exposure, NOT COMPLETE SEPERATION. Gun locks are treated like jokes by responsible firearm owners for a reason. One of the first things my father tought me and my brother is about firearms, how they were always dangerous for us because they can always be loaded and we can always end up accidentally loading them, and to not play with them, but also exposed to them to normalise them to neither fear them, or harbor an exceptional curiosity in them. The concept of keeping your guns in your home unlocked with your kids is fucking retarded. My parents didn't lock up their car keys for their other car when they were out and me and my brother were left home alone, that notion would be fucking insane, it's no different for guns as they are no more dangerous tools, arguably much less dangerous given their lack of motiom and action once you set them down even if your kid does touch then and have a negligent discharge or a mechanical accident occurs.
@@JohnSmith-fq3rgWhilst it might seem insane the number of accidents in the US down to gun misuse shows that your parenting experience isn't representative. Gun locks have a place and that place is where the government can't step in and mandate how you parent your children. It can put laws on how you're supposed to store dangerous weapons though. Just like bottles of bleach having childproof tops - ideally children either know the risks or don't have access to bleach. Guns are like that, except some older kids think they're cool things to show off about (not many think it's cool to wave around a bottle of bleach).
@@ayguy9855 The main problem with THIS gun lock is that it seems "Gun (model) Specific". Generally, gunlocks need to fit a variety of weapons. Unfortunately, this is one of their weaknesses, though/
I bet it could be made general enough if the bolt of a certain length was sold separately from the lock body, so you buy the right length (or bolt) for your weapon. I don't think even a half inch of play would make much difference especially if it was all factory hardened. This technique doesn't really work for crappy cheap locks though so I'm sure most manufacturers do their best to use cheap parts.
That lock would be easy to break open tho. The ground the drill bit very thin to make it lock. I use drill bits that size and much larger at work and see them break all the time. Taking that much material off of it makes it very weak at that point.
I think that by now he has realized that he had the wrong sequence. 1. Bend 2. Cut the bent part 3. cut the bottom so that it fits into the lock 4. make one groove for the ball bearing, not a circle one.
@@EujenSanduHe almost lost some length when testing the notch depth . If he had ended up cutting it off, premature bending would make it too short . Also, to get locked by a big round ball, the notch must be semicircular .
You have earned a lot of respect. You not only found flaws in gunlocks, you have found a solution for the problem. Great job and thanks for a great video.
And he took a minor loss on it too. No ads means less RU-vid money. He genuinely wanted to provide a solution to a problem. And he's right. Any children he has or may have are the only tweens getting in this thing. 💯
@@jesseredfield8194 don't worry. The comments section is a place time doesn't flow. In my time vsause just released a video on this a few days ago. Comments boost user engagement. The internet is your playground. Have fun.
Just goes to show the consistency this man provides. Didn't even realise this video was 6 years old. Also don't own a gun, I don't plan on owning a gun, probably shouldn't own a gun, but still watched it anyways.
@@death22_fighter27I can't speak for them, but I shouldn't have a gun, which is why I don't. I'm a dumbfick idiot drunk. Now imagine that + gun? Yeah, not the best results right? I'll take point on the zombie apocalypse. I can farm, I'm in MENSA... I've got other skills. I'll leave the shooting to you.
I was the same. I'm 41 and didn't but my first gun until late February 2020. I had a feeling things might become chaotic or "mostly peaceful" as the MSM would say.
I know you said you didn't need comments on easier substitutions, but your project brought to mind two things most every house has at least one of each that could be used with no modifications at all: An adjustable wrench and an ordinary padlock. Find the appropriate size adjustable wrench to fit down through the ejection port and out the bottom of the mag well (rubber coated handle would be a bonus). Lock an ordinary short-shackle padlock through the hanger hole in the wrench handle and you've created an instant gun lock that's tougher than a typical cable lock. In addition, you would still have the lock shackle available to attach a chain so the gun couldn't be removed to a workshop for cutting. I'm sure someone has done this before, but I don't ever remember seeing it and it sprang to mind while watching your excellent video.
That is a very astute observation jay, and your suggestion is both poor man friendly and you still get to keep two fully functioning tools however I feel LPL’s approach is better for three reasons, his lock is engineered for speed and less gun damaging slop as well as having a dedicated tool for the job.
It feels so strange to have LPL helping us build a lock, but I’m loving that he cares enough about gun safety and people safety that he’s willing to teach us how to solve this problem.
If you go to the electrical department of a Home Depot they have small cans of liquid rubber for electrical connections. They have screw on caps with a brush attached just like CPCV pipe glue. Reusable for many years.
It's called liquid electrical tape and it's garbage. Good luck not making your tool look like a shit that would concern your primary doctor. It's even crap for what it's supposed to be used for, regular shrink tubing is better in every way. Just put a layer of clingwrap over the plastidip can before you put the lid back on and it'll last long enough to pass the full can down to your grandchildren because you will probably never use it again anyways. Add another layer of clingwrap on top of that with a rubber band and you could probably pass it on to the the species that rises from our ashes after humanity's downfall. Or get the spray if you want your tools to actually look decent. Slightly more prep and skill required though.
The most I've learned from the gun lock series is that a good gun lock has to A. Prevent the gun from firing (Ie, prevent the gun from going into battery, doesn't work for all firearms but a lot of modern ones can't be used if the bolt isn't fully closed) and B. Not be unlocked with a piece of metal that you can violently shake inside the core of the lock until it pops open.
My 15 year old son just came into the livingroom and said " You watch The LPL?" Yes, yes I do. He then proceeds to tell his friends that he has the coolest Mom ever! Thank you LPL for being someone that makes me a cool mom ;-)
You think you were going crazy. I _do_ have a smoke alarm that needs a new battery but it only beeps in cold weather. I couldn't figure what was causing it to act up.
when you're cutting something off, the sparks won't hurt you (obv using eye pro). The tool biting and throwing itself in the opposite direction of the sparks will. Thus it's usually safer to have the sparks towards you so that in case of a problem the tool would just fly away from you. Also, humans have better control pulling than pushing, that's why you have more precision over the cut when you're pulling the tool towards you while it's trying to escape than if you're pushing it trying to stop it from getting closer.
@@vanoscrap6296 so stand perpendicular and not get sparks thrown at you or the tool nipping you! Hell a cut off wheel can just as easily bite and go 180° around a small diameter round object. I guess I always attack it with the back bottom side I guess. (So if holding the die grinder straight out would be the position of the blade between 6 AND 9 o' clock)
Thanks for the full length video. It’s well made. I enjoyed how it leverages your deep knowledge of secure padlocks, and combines it with your appreciation of keeping firearms safe. This is one of my favorites.
Hey LPL, not sure if this was updated or that you will see this but just some tips for you and anyone who might want to make this: When marking the notch for the shank, just put it next to the one you cut off and mark the center of the existing notch on the drillbit. Perfect every time. Honestly ditch the dremel idea, a small angle grinder can be had cheaper than a typical dremel, in my exp. more people have grinders too. Get a grind wheel and a cut off wheel. You could also grind away one side, less material to take away. just make sure the bend direction corresponds. With the heatshrink just use a cigarette/BBQ lighter - good temperature for heatshrink and low risk of burning. if you do have a heatgun on hand theyre ideal. For a simple upgrade you could also look at foam lagging on top of the shrink, inexpensive and if you can find a suitable size it would give a better fit and more protection for your peice. Other than that this is a very simple but effective design.
Little tip for pushing heat shrink around that bend. Use a solvent like isopropyl alcohol as a lubricant instead of a petroleum base. The petroleum lube will always be there. Alcohol will eventually evaporate. That's an old motorcycle handlebar grip technique.
@andyp5899 this was my question as well, what was the advantage of the heat shrink vs plati-dip (which I've never heard of to be honest, never heard of marine grade heat shrink either though). Maybe the only flaw in this video was not explaining this.
@technerd9655 I think the heat shrink will be more durable. That would be more important on the part that rubs the sharper corners of the gun more than the lock body. The lock body seems to only touch a plastic piece at the bottom of the mag well.
@@MadcattlxUnfortunately the only part of the drill bit that is likely to damage the inside of the gun (the end) is not covered in plasti dip or heat shrink. Not much you can do about that though.
This is amazing... all that lock knowledge and experience put to practical application. Massive change of pace, and a welcome one. Mr. Lawyer is a great narrator too. Clear and easy to understand what he's doing. Not always clear WHY, until the end. Would not be opposed to seeing more of such projects.
just a tip for bending rods like that. bend away from the flame. the steel on that side the bend needs to stretch more and should be hotter and in more direct contact with the flame
The chirping smoke detector in this video had me looking in my house to see which one was low battery. Only today on picking up the last part of the video I previously didn't finish, I hear the noise again and realised. Making me check all my detectors isn't a bad thing at least!
I’m not american, neither will I ever be a gun owner, but as an occasional viewer I never knew you did little project videos! It was super relaxing to watch this. :] I guess a locksmith would be a handyman too, and I understood most of what was said despite never having held a power tool properly! Great video. ❤
Very cool. Never heard of Plasti-Dip, I want to buy a can and dip everything I own in it for a nice form-fitting ergonomic extra-grip surface. My toothbrush, my bicycle handles, my PS4 controller, my phone, my shoelaces, a banana..
"extraordinarily difficult to pick" a few years later: "I'm going to use the pick Bosnian Bill and I made... and as you saw that wasn't too difficult a pick"
Several just keep watching and you will stumble on one of them. Of course this lock still works for purpose since a curious teen likely does not have access to that special pick until they also are mature enough to be taught proper firearm handling.
"stopping an unskilled adolescent from accessing the lock" Most unskilled adolescents don't have highly specialized lockpicking equipment. No gun lock is going to stop a criminal from using the unsecured firearm you left lying around, but one like this mostly will keep your kids from shooting themselves or others with it (which is #2 cause of death among children even if you remove gun homicides from the mix).
LPL, this is an awesome little project and I love the spirit of it, making it as widely available as possible. The machinist in me can't help but offer slight change for future iterations though. Drill shanks tend to be at least partially annealed already and the area closer to the flutes may have a higher hardness but, this would actually leave the lock weaker to a brute force attack if you swung down with a hammer onto the padlock (I should mention now that I am halfway through the video so, apologies if this is tested later). I think a simple solution is to instead use a length of stainless steel rod (should be available at most hardware stores) preferably in 316 or a similarly gummy alloy. These alloys have much better tensile properties than the drill rod will and even with that drastic notch, should hold up to physical attacks. This also provides added difficulty to cutting and grinding attacks as stainless is notorious for its poor machinability. To that end, keeping with the dremel lathe set up, one could likely make the notch a bit more quickly by using the cut off wheel and spinning it opposite the direction of the work. Then simply cant the cutoff wheel at an angle to the work until the desired radius is achieved in the rod. Do not notch the rod and then try to angle the cut off disc though as that would likely break it. Anywho, thanks for this thought experiment!
It's actually safer to cut sparking towards you (with safety glasses, which you should have on regardless). You can stand to one side so the majoritt of sparks pass you. The tool is going to be pulling in the opposite direction to the sparks. Firstly, it tends to be easier to maintain control of a tool that's pulling away from you, but more importantly, if you do lose control, you want the tool to jerk away from you and not towards you.
Just an observation, if you hold your torch a little further away from the work it will heat up quicker. The hottest part of the flame is where the bright blue area creates a point.
@@user-ul6bm8pt2y To be fair i know that but my monkey brain still goes "closer flame more hot" every time i have to heat something, since usually hot things get less hot with distance
elesjuan Someone needs to CNC a Glock slide onto a 1911 Body and watch as millions of fanboys cry out and be suddenly silenced by the death star equivalent of a fire arm
An empty paint can, the small ones, can be used to store the plasti-dip after opening it and will keep it fresh. It's what we did at a plant that I worked at where we used it as a bolt tightened indicator and tool handle maker.
@@TimSheehan You need a seal that will stop really light petroleum distillates from evaporating. Paint cans usually pull this off with their spring steel seal as it is very tight and what little sealant it there is not permeable to the stuff that is going to evaporate off from the product. You do want to use a paint can rated at holding enamel and shellac paints as they use the kind of solvents that are similar to the stuff you are trying to not have evaporate, so the seals on the cans will work.
This video is incredibly informative and almost hypnotic. This is all waaaay beyond my capabilities but I loved watching the process. LPL is a pretty damn good craftsman!
6 years later. I took a quick look on Amazon and no gun locks borrowed this design. I'm kind of surprised. You'd think that after all of the torching LPL has done to the manufacturers, they all would have jumped on this.
It’s hand gun specific. Custom. Meaning you would need the exact measurements of your gun to make this work. Every gun out there is different in measurement, so all though it’s a really good lock design the problem is it would take another designer to make this fit a multitude of different hand guns
I appreciate the shit out of the amount of thought you put into this video, not only making a gun lock that will be damn good and difficult to be accessed by someone who isn't supposed to, but the fact that you made it for most people based off of the methods and tools used. Keep it up
Must be difficult to be Mrs. LPL. LPL: "Honey, our house is secured by a lock that even I can't pick!" Mrs LPL: "What if I lose the key?" LPL: "That's why the torch, angle grinder and crowbars are conveniently next to the door"
Very slick design. Just a couple quick points. After grinding the drill bit to make a grove, wipe off any fillings before testing in the lock. Before appling the rubber coating to the lock, use rubbing alcohol to remove grease and finger prints so the plastic doesn't lift in time
I definitely got rid of the dust/filings before moving the gun within 10 yards of the bench. That can destroy a precision fitted gun like this. Good point on degreasing.
Years ago I was doing some prototyping and opened four new different color cans of PlastiDip thinking I could use a tiny amount and they'd keep fine on the shelf...lesson learned...
Great timeless video on a concern that every firearm owner should have. I suspect there were some recommendations for some minor improvements so I'll keep mine to myself. Thank you for doing so much to keep us informed of flaws in currently available lock options and where we can improve what is out there...
As we have 2 kids, and 6 times that amount in guns, I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Fun project to do with my oldest and teach her along the way about safety.
Also here because of the algorithm, lol. I only started following LPL a couple of years ago and never got back into the archives far enough for this one, and clearly I missed out! Definitely wish I had a slightly better set of tools to attempt this over the summer. Would be fantastic to hear LPL's retrospective on this build and see if it still holds up or if he's improved on it.
6 years after the fact...nice video! I'm glad it turned up in my feed. The only suggestion I have would be to ensure the width of the notch is very close to the width of the ball bearing. This will ensure the depth of the notch is ONLY as deep as it needs to be and will maintain maximum shaft strength at the notch (since this will now be the weakest point of the shaft). It is most prone to breaking/snapping at this point (fracture mechanics behind what it is). VERY nicely done!
I have been watching your channel for a few years and must say that you have made the world a better place than if you had not been in it. Your past recommendations (and warnings) have certainly saved a non-zero amount of families from attacks and now with this video you have certainly saved families from a non-zero amount of firearm tragedies. There is no reasonable way to estimate some statistics but even if it was just one less dead kid in the world, it's worth it. Even planting the idea of home safety in peoples minds matters. I expect to have children within the next few years and I feel confident in your safety recommendations for my future firearm and home. Thank you. Seriously.
Yes, only now. Not 6 years ago when the video was released. 😂 I didn't notice either. Another comment pointed it out. The algorithm gods just decided that now is the true time for this vid, and turned out to be right.
Well if anyone were to produce this then a improvement might bee to have a small lock that fits it inside the magwell to protect the lock body from a lot of destructive entry's as well.
Agreed... but at the expensive of losing some universal fitment. A better approach may be a wedge shape that fits into the mag well and a ratcheting shackle.
Great DIY video. The shank of the shortened drill bit will probably still be hard near the flutes and will be harder to grip in a chuck than what should be the softer end of the drill rod. You can choose to put the groove into the harder cut end rather than the softer original tail end. When you heat and bend the rod that point is annealed and could be bent straight by a criminal. Cutting a deep ball bearing groove all around the rod weakens the rod quite a bit, perhaps a notch would be enough and also provide a rotation lock. On reflection a rotation lock might make it easier to beak by twisting. Sourcing a lock with an extra long removable shackle might be the way to go. You could sell them on your web shop.
This is a great video and as a parent I appreciate it. Watching every gun lock you try fail made me happy that I don’t keep my guns in my home where one of my children could stumble upon them. They are good kids that have been taught to not play with them but you never know what will go through a preteens head sometimes.
I have a few firearms myself and this design seems better by far than other firearm locks, I will definitely do this for my duty gun which I always have out and in the open for easy accessibility but high enough so kids do not get a hold of. Thank you for posting this video and btw, I LOVE THE COVERT COMPANION!!!!!
I enjoy shooting sports and I enjoy watching RU-vid regarding them.. I'm happy to see (finally) a video about safe keeping of your firearm. Even if you had to build it yourself. No one regularly reviews safety equipment, sometimes I see a review of a safe but that's all.
@@HyennaTheOneThis is pretty similar to a chamber flag or cable-type handgun lock for installation, which are pretty common and even supplied by manufacturers. It shouldn't damage anything.
Don't know how i missed this video for 6 years. Still a very valuable project! My only suggestions for improvement are: 1) Use the shakle to mark off the groove on the drill bit. To make it easier to tell when you are getting close 2) Use the cutoff wheel to cut the depth of the groove then come back with the grinding stone to shape. 3) Hold torch back when heating so the tip of the blue flame is almost touching. 4) Directly after the bend is complete, reheat to red hot and drop in oil to quench. Any oil will do, I typically use used motor oil. 5) Clean both the lockbody and drill bit with acetone or 90%+ isopropyl alcohol prior to coating. I've had issues with plasti dip debonding if surface is not very clean. I would also place a few drops of the plasti dip down the end of the heat shrink which will completly seal the end.
I just want you to know just how much you are appreciated your content is always on point and enjoyable I feel like the knowledge you take the time to share with us is some of the most useful and practical in all of RU-vid and maybe you have others tell you but maybe not and if not the I felt that someone should so just as a person out here in the world a heart felt thank you and as always have a nice day lol👍
if the sparks are going in your direction that means that if the rotatory tool jumps out of your control it will roll away and not directly in your fingers holding those pliers (just like the angle grinder or a chainsaw throws the sparks-sawdust in your direction)
Great videos. You’ve combined my childhood hobby (locks) and adult hobby (guns) on this one. Bonus points for knowing all about the properties of the steel and not wanting to mess up the heat treat.
DAMN, LPL is strapped! Imagine thinking you caught him lacking then he brings out the heat, aint no-one gonna catch him lacking. Nice piece btw, also this video is getting recommended!
I've been looking for a good lock and some other parts to make something similar, when I stumbled across the ABUS 83/45 series. They have interchangeable shackles, which include a 6" version. I was going to attempt to do what you did here, but I found the 6" shackle fits perfectly with some room to spare in my full size Glock 22. It has the advantage of being a fully hardened/alloyed shackle with both sides present and locked in bearings. The lock is also available with either an ABUS core or SFIC style. If you are worried about pick attacks you could use a 7 pin peaks or cormax SFIC core for a pretty secure lock. As a bonus, I can use the SFIC core to make it match all my other locks. Since I use this to travel through the airport I can use the same key to lock the gun and the case as required by TSA. I love building my own stuff, but this was much easier than making my own and probably more secure. Definitely more secure than the standard cheap cable type gun locks. I do plan on giving it a plasti-dip to protect the gun unless I can manage to get some heat shrink tubing over the shackle.
You can stretch heat shrink while heating it (I usually use needle nose pliers for short pieces) also making it easier to slide over it then heat it as normal to shrink it.
I appreciate LPL providing the education regarding tools, plastidip, heat shrink, etc... and a basic blueprint for a firearm lock. I also appreciate croud-sourcing the incremental improvements to that blueprint. Thanks for the vid that stands the test of time... 5 years and counting.
Thank you for taking time and tremendous effort to guide us through the steps of making such an original and effective gun lock. I think many viewers don't realize exactly what goes into making a production of such length and detail. P.S. I invested in a heat gun around a decade ago and it's been a godsend. I highly recommend it.
Thanks... and you are correct that this was a bit of a PITA, but not as bad as I thought. Also, I have a heat gun. Trying to keep the number of tools to a minimum, thus using the torch for two purposes.
LockPickingLawyer Oh! I heard you mention keeping tools to a minimum, but didn't realize you dual-purposed the torch. I was threading chambers of a core while your video played. So I wasn't quite as attentive as usual.
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