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[4K] Maryland Midland UBST Spills Stone! 

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On a rare Sunday run of the Maryland Midland UBST (stone train), I was able to chase it from 5pm-8pm when it got dark. However, while the train left the Woodsboro quarry, they went a little fast over the terrible track and cars were rocking like I've never seen before. So much so, that some of the stone in the last car was dumped all over the road.

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@funnelfan
@funnelfan 3 года назад
The part of the video showing the train leaving the quarry is a good demonstration of Harmonic Rock the often occurs around 15~18mph depending on the length of the car and rails. The cars near the locomotives are stabilized by the strain on the couplers which dampens the rocking of the cars. But as you go back through the train, the strain is less and the rocking is more pronounced. But that last car with no cars behind to help dampen the rocking is left to rock as much as it wants, hence it's wild rocking.
@DonkenAndToivolaRR
@DonkenAndToivolaRR 3 года назад
In some countries "lifting a wheels flange above the height of the top of the rail" is part of the definition of a derailment.
@scdevon
@scdevon 3 года назад
This constant rocking is hard on equipment too especially the suspension and springs. These cars may have only rocked for a short time, but they rock all day on some other lines.
@meruliouslacrimens5154
@meruliouslacrimens5154 3 года назад
Love the way it just cuts across the road at Westminster, MD . A few great shots of progress there. So often you don't get a full shot showing how many wagons are on, but you surely delivered. ( also good that we only get the true loco sound and not any stupid music that wouldn't do it justice anyway.😅👍
@TheFront40Alaska
@TheFront40Alaska 3 года назад
Alaska Railroad would never let us fill our cars that full.
@196Stefan2
@196Stefan2 3 года назад
The last car doesn't only spill stones, the wheels are lifting-off from the (shitty) track when rocking. A derailment is a matter of time. Apart from this, the cars aren't loaded equally.
@spaceage1060
@spaceage1060 3 года назад
Yard track is usually bad, I wish rail companies changed that -_-
@scdevon
@scdevon 3 года назад
Why do so many trains seem to deliberately travel at the exact speed that harmonic rocking occurs? A 5mph increase or decrease in speed seems to eliminate the rocking, yet you see these trains frequently just loafing along rocking themselves almost off the rails for extended periods.
@danielrose1392
@danielrose1392 3 года назад
@@scdevon Assume all trains are the same, a train at line speed will have a certain harmonic and cause damage matching this harmonic. Any further train similar train at line speed also matches the harmonic.
@scdevon
@scdevon 3 года назад
@Dan C. Harmonic rocking causes derailments and rollovers in some cases. It's not as if you don't need to worry about it.
@lawrence18uk
@lawrence18uk 3 года назад
@@scdevon I assume the harmonic rocking causes the track to dip in places which emphasise it even more. Especially when the rolling stock is identical every time.
@joshperu2473
@joshperu2473 3 года назад
Legend has it that last car is still dumping stones to this day.
@brilliantman79
@brilliantman79 4 года назад
Awesome job! Thank you for your time and effort chasing the stone train. It’s not often anyone shows a train from start to finish. This has got to be one of the best train uploads on RU-vid!! Thank you!
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
Stone train become a pain in the ass to chase after the sun sets
@samuel_towle
@samuel_towle 3 года назад
It was a happy train. I saw it wagging it's tail. Shipper overloads every car to offset transportation costs.
@eugenereinard7957
@eugenereinard7957 3 года назад
This is the first time I saw any of your videos and I was amazed at the quality of your photography and all the beautiful scenery absolutely some of the best I've seen, just one video, and I have already subscribed. Thank You
@shawnpowell5876
@shawnpowell5876 2 года назад
Great catch of the Maryland Midland GEEPS working hard pulling that HEFTY consist of Rock Cars! Have to say they're very lucky that last car didn't go over bcuz that could've been a domino effect for other cars! I like how it ran right through the town of Westminister! I'm a BIG FAN of "STREET RUNNING" as well as of the colors of those GEEPS! Thanks again for sharing your videos with us along with your time and effort CP!
@MilePost106
@MilePost106 3 года назад
Great video!!! Loved it, thanks for sharing
@tractorsmachinesro1405
@tractorsmachinesro1405 3 года назад
Absolute great work...True rail therapy
@brandtfj
@brandtfj 3 года назад
best video I've seen in a long time! thank-you
@reidselby2569
@reidselby2569 3 года назад
Great to see some Carroll County railroading. Thanks for posting !
@AMPProductionsVideo
@AMPProductionsVideo 3 года назад
This was a great video!
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
Carroll county best county
@ronf.6180
@ronf.6180 2 года назад
Very cool. Thanx for sharing!
@thejack6469
@thejack6469 3 года назад
Awesome sound and interesting service! Greetings!
@havochiawatha3375
@havochiawatha3375 3 года назад
2:57 Nobody: The clumsy one after the bar:
@danielgannon9502
@danielgannon9502 3 года назад
Fun video to watch, thanks. Subscribed.
@EdWhizAviationTrains
@EdWhizAviationTrains 3 года назад
Great footage, really enjoyed watching - I Liked & Subscribed 👍😎
@michaelsmith4904
@michaelsmith4904 3 года назад
This was really fun to watch a 3x!
@erniemitchell3546
@erniemitchell3546 4 года назад
The rear axle, last wheel, got some air, about an inch, with those low joints (cross level defects). GOOD TRACK!! Good for 20mph!! LOL That's like knocking the head off a beer before it is taken to the table, but in this case before it rolls across the country.
@cdavid8139
@cdavid8139 3 года назад
This is an industrial lead. For many industries....this is FANTASTIC track.
@ericdaniel7069
@ericdaniel7069 3 года назад
I am new to the channel. Great stuff!
@missmadness564
@missmadness564 4 года назад
Good job and good shots
@ChefKevinRiese
@ChefKevinRiese 3 года назад
Oh my! That was so exciting.
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 2 года назад
Nice catch. I sometimes do some work at the Lehigh Cement plant and catch a couple of engines switching cement covered hoppers around down at the bottom of the hill, but this was nice to see some of the spots I drive by, but never get to catch them at. What you saw where the last car launched some stone was the 14 (and later 28) mph harmonic oscillation that sets up with jointed track and the spring rates of the cars. The fact the track was worse than average, and the cars were loaded I'd suspect well above their max fill level which further raises the center of gravity exacerbating the oscillation problem, you almost caught a wreck on film. If they had started their acceleration out of the quarry 2 engine lengths sooner, they'd have likely been on the ground.
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 Год назад
@Ronald Lee Kuehne You know they changed the line into the plant now? It no longer runs through town, it goes out on the opposite side of the plant, up and over a huge hill down to the main on a new wye that was put in at a farm. I think that's why they have so much more power on the line, to make those moves possible.
@suduputha659
@suduputha659 3 года назад
Thanks 🙏 for your video
@duganc2581
@duganc2581 3 года назад
Nice to see a couple of clean de-powered ‘45s. Too aggressive speed leaving the quarry and overloaded cars to boot. Great video!
@AMPProductionsVideo
@AMPProductionsVideo 3 года назад
I like these locomotives too
@bushranger51
@bushranger51 3 года назад
Yeah, the driver could of crawled out of the quarry, he had to know about that poor track going in to pick up the train, so he should have made allowances for it, a couple of extra minutes at a slower speed may save a future derailment there.
@tommyhunter1817
@tommyhunter1817 3 года назад
The orange plague. Love the 45’s though. Classic look. Those close quarters and tight clearances in town just make the place seem inviting to me.
@HugsBach
@HugsBach 3 года назад
Favorite crossing has to be Westminster, Maryland. What a unique crossing! The White and the brick building seems inches away from the train 🚆. It would be a great layout on a small model railroad layout, IMHO
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
Back in the western Maryland days Westminster was a big siding
@scottnathens6377
@scottnathens6377 3 года назад
cool video and scenery ...
@rjl110919581
@rjl110919581 3 года назад
thank you for detail video
@edcew8236
@edcew8236 3 года назад
Spill is at 3:00
@WJack97224
@WJack97224 3 года назад
I like the red brick building. Ancient architecture is soooo neat.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 3 года назад
It’s not ancient. “Ancient” means “extremely old”, which no building in USA is.
@milesboehmer9969
@milesboehmer9969 3 года назад
The entire train was rockin ,talk about being over loaded wow !
@TheBeeMan1994
@TheBeeMan1994 3 года назад
The rock was caused by the crappy track work right before the crossing, you can see there’s a few low joints in a row, with the way they are spaced (every 19.5 ft with 39 ft rail) 13 mph will cause what’s called harmonic rock, the cars aren’t overloaded just cause they are loaded over the top, as long as they aren’t over weight. The low joints right before the crossing caused the cars to harmonic rock across it, spilling the rock, not the fact they were loaded over the top. The shortline I work for we have ballast cars loaded up like that, never had spillage issues unless it was across really bad rail
@daciatravel.647
@daciatravel.647 3 года назад
Very good video!
@railfanninginohiowithjessi9844
@railfanninginohiowithjessi9844 3 года назад
Awesome video
@mikejw58
@mikejw58 3 года назад
OMG Did I see what I think I just saw ! ! ! I dont know if i'm going to be able to sleep at night anymore
@stewarttrains98
@stewarttrains98 4 года назад
Most all of the cars on this train are improperly loaded as not properly spread in the car. Hopefully they where not going to interchange. Quite a few even appear to be overweight. I see these type on the GNRR on a regular basis hauling marble.
@Florida8499
@Florida8499 3 года назад
I don't think it would have derailed but it sure was rocking.
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR 4 года назад
I was on the wrong side 😣 great editing job! ✔
@richmondrailfan8444
@richmondrailfan8444 3 года назад
BRO YOU GOT VERIFIED LETS GO YESSIR
@railroadskater2896
@railroadskater2896 3 года назад
Nice K3LA horn! Sounds exactly like Winchester Western's 576. I'm surprised that the crossing where the stone spilled didn't have the crossing bells working.
@JawTooth
@JawTooth 3 года назад
Wow, that was cool!
@6777Productions
@6777Productions 3 года назад
Agreed
@GerardWassink
@GerardWassink 3 года назад
Cool? Or coal? ;-)
@kamilkarwat2706
@kamilkarwat2706 3 года назад
I never realized how much travel a train car truck suspension actually has. They usually seem very stiff.
@MarylandAreaRailfan
@MarylandAreaRailfan 4 года назад
Welcome to the 4K gang!👌🏼
@kishascape
@kishascape 3 года назад
STFU nerd
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
@@kishascape STFU girl
@robertvertacnik9989
@robertvertacnik9989 3 года назад
Classic example of harmonic rolling.
@spaceage1060
@spaceage1060 3 года назад
If there was a longer car at the end, do you think the effects would be mostly cancelled out?
@robertvertacnik9989
@robertvertacnik9989 3 года назад
@@spaceage1060 Not if it was loaded as badly as the rest of the cars in the train.
@WJack97224
@WJack97224 3 года назад
Rockin' and Rollin' RR style. I like it and hey, spreadin' a little grit on an icy road ain't all bad. Hey, is the rockin' and rollin' due to the road bed or the hopper suspension or both? What say you? It does appear that that last hopper was a bit too overloaded.
@toby070
@toby070 3 года назад
In Michael Angelis' voice: "Then there was trouble! The old truck wobbled and stone spilt everywhere!"
@sd90mac61
@sd90mac61 3 года назад
Hi Toby, where's your partner DIESEL, LOL👍
@aaronb7631
@aaronb7631 3 года назад
@@sd90mac61 Being bothered by the "troublesome trucks"!! LOL
@MrAudienceMember2662015
@MrAudienceMember2662015 3 года назад
Gravel train is rockin’ it to an old track.
@meak13
@meak13 3 года назад
Did you notice he wasn't waving as he went by the first time?
@Buck1954
@Buck1954 3 года назад
You get a little good-bye toot. Nice!
@tryithere
@tryithere 3 года назад
Man, they sure do load those cars.
@Dproud2700
@Dproud2700 3 года назад
One of the locomotives looks like a former SP locomotive
@southern207hobbies
@southern207hobbies 3 года назад
The loader operator is at fault for overloading those cars
@aaronb7631
@aaronb7631 3 года назад
That, and the crew who needs to come by and fix the ballist!
@internazi
@internazi 3 года назад
im of the opinion any run thru residential commercial would also include weight limits that keep the load well off every car i see here loaded is easily off a mark perscribed, some look like they are 10,000lbs in difference by the attempts to pile it on....gotta wonder what the feed operators were on
@mikes7639
@mikes7639 3 года назад
So dull waiting for a derail ?
@taslimchoudhary1253
@taslimchoudhary1253 4 года назад
Awesome Video 🌱🌱🇮🇳🌱🌱
@csxtrainfan319
@csxtrainfan319 3 года назад
How did that rock car spilled it’s stone
@ashrafulhaque8759
@ashrafulhaque8759 3 года назад
I am getting sea sick watching this train!
@grampus2112
@grampus2112 3 года назад
The wheels of the last wagon never left the rails .it would have to tilt a lot farther than that before contact was lost and the rear wagons are loaded with quarry dust not stone
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 3 года назад
Look again at full speed. The wheels of the second truck of the last car did lift off the near rail about an inch for a fraction of a second, showing daylight between the wheel and rail.
@captainecho764
@captainecho764 3 года назад
Those cars were getting half an inch of air there at 2:55. Kinda dangerous
@yrunaked4
@yrunaked4 3 года назад
if you look closely, the last wheel of the last car, grabs a little air at the joint
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 3 года назад
That was one of those self-leveling/load limiting cars. They rock back and forth like that to either level the load or to kick off extra weight. They were really popular back in.......NEVER!!!
@enginerd80
@enginerd80 3 года назад
That train is awfully loud -- I mean, the screeching cars are louder than the diesel locomotive! Was that normal? Did the screeching come from the bearings, or were the flangs constantly hitting the rails? The way I've understood it, the flangs are only supposed to hit the rails at tighter "corners". Also, do trains over there constantly blare the horn? I live some 200 meters from tracks in Finland, and pretty much the only thing I hear is the diesel engine a couple of times per day. A train horn is heard maybe once a month. I think they only use it if there's someone or something on the tracks. Though, to be fair, the trains around here rarely carry stone, so I don't know how they would sound like under a really heavy load like that.
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
Trains are loud in maryland
@brandonoswald2392
@brandonoswald2392 3 года назад
Harmonic Rockin!
@hreindustries
@hreindustries 7 месяцев назад
I know exactly where that keymar bridge is, I had no idea it was operational.
@SuperPanther34
@SuperPanther34 3 года назад
Damn.. Those things are filled up too high.
@ericposey3782
@ericposey3782 3 года назад
Them SD40M-2 were painted in Lyons, Georgia on the Georgia Central.
@norbertdx
@norbertdx 3 года назад
So the SD45's were downgraded to SD40? I guess that makes sense, they didn't need that kind of power on those rough tracks.
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
@@norbertdx yeah class 3 short lines normally don’t and considering the last track replacement was in 1999
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 Год назад
Why do they blow the horn so many times? Those tracks at the first intersection need repair plus loading the cars so high the center of gravity becomes higher and more likely to derail and cause a turn over. Those hopper cars look like they have never seen any maintenance in 20 years.
@MustangsTrainsMowers
@MustangsTrainsMowers 4 года назад
Looks like some of the rock could have spilled into the flangeway of the crossing.
@cdavid8139
@cdavid8139 3 года назад
most flangeways in these operations are always full of rock
@metalhead_modellerm4804
@metalhead_modellerm4804 3 года назад
What is the location at 7:22 ? That would be a cool scene for a model diorama.
@8QUAU
@8QUAU 3 года назад
Westminster Md. Liberty street or Ridge Rd and main Street. Looking across from parking lot at Sherwood square
@metalhead_modellerm4804
@metalhead_modellerm4804 3 года назад
@@8QUAU Thanks!
@meTimetraveler
@meTimetraveler 3 года назад
GP38's I have been to the Union Bridge yard
@jeroen2535
@jeroen2535 2 года назад
In the Netherlands it is not even allowed to load a wagon so full.
@steamgent4592
@steamgent4592 3 года назад
Spilled stone = free ballast
@Lil_Pennsy
@Lil_Pennsy 3 года назад
It’s like a whip😂😵
@vmiley1
@vmiley1 3 года назад
A little over filled in the back half of the car.
@JsMisc
@JsMisc 3 года назад
Signals at New Windsor must've seen better days.
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
oh yes
@ScottTaipaleRail
@ScottTaipaleRail 3 года назад
Nice chase but Genesee & Wyoming gets unfriendly pretty quick if people are filming while standing in the gauge, even if its a yard track.
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
Yeah but Maryland Midland employees are cool
@Railfan225
@Railfan225 3 года назад
Nice
@albertcyphers1532
@albertcyphers1532 3 года назад
The loader operator needs to learn how to balance a load
@fastcsx1412
@fastcsx1412 3 года назад
I don’t think it’s as much as the load and more just the speed on that type of tracks
@aaronb7631
@aaronb7631 3 года назад
@@fastcsx1412 Someone needs to fix the ballast!
@babalui66
@babalui66 3 месяца назад
I'd love to live in some of these places that are on the tracks. They are distributing the coal for Christmas stockings.
@jacjac5761
@jacjac5761 3 года назад
Never seen that happen!
@leskeegan9033
@leskeegan9033 3 года назад
Little more sway in them springs
@23Skadoosh
@23Skadoosh 3 года назад
It was just pouring one out for the homies
@lw7238
@lw7238 3 года назад
Are you stalking that last car, sure seems to be.
@trapperjohn2462
@trapperjohn2462 3 года назад
Very odd! I've never seen an SD40-2 in that configuration. Normally, SD40-2s have large decks at each end. Not so with 3451.
@trainzguy2472
@trainzguy2472 3 года назад
These are former SD45 rebuilds, as evidenced by the flared radiators.
@trapperjohn2462
@trapperjohn2462 3 года назад
@@trainzguy2472 Makes sense. I was thinking they look more like SD 45s.
@WMAJ6
@WMAJ6 3 года назад
Almost roller her over!
@jimbroeker3794
@jimbroeker3794 3 года назад
That train was geting its rocks off
@mikejw58
@mikejw58 3 года назад
Did you get written permission to stand there?
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
no 😎
@raymondleggs5508
@raymondleggs5508 3 года назад
Free Model railroad scenery material!
@ruffian2952
@ruffian2952 3 года назад
If you have a roofing shingle manufacturer nearby, the grit used on the shingles comes in all sorts of shades. I used some for ballast in a yard and along the line. Scenery next.
@BigLisaFan
@BigLisaFan 3 года назад
That is a lot of weight!
@franceselainethurston1606
@franceselainethurston1606 3 года назад
These cars look very old and tired; that surprises me as I thought trains were well kept.
@JsMisc
@JsMisc 3 года назад
New cars are more expensive, that is why the MMID bought secondhand CSX cars.
@JsMisc
@JsMisc 3 года назад
@@iandenton1406, I didn't understand that sentence but ok.
@Lucileiagomes815
@Lucileiagomes815 3 года назад
this horn looks like mrs, all, brado, vli, vll brazilian railway company
@DarkVoidIII
@DarkVoidIII 3 года назад
I wonder who loads their stone cars for them? It seems that a few choice words from their boss should get them to load the stone on the cars a little more safely. Oh well, maybe the management at the stone quarry doesn't care.
@rasputinlenin6699
@rasputinlenin6699 3 года назад
That’s what’s known as careless overloading. The quarry can be slammed with a massive fine and the railroad can get slapped by a huge fine for not stopping the overload and and potentially causing a derailment due to continuing the trip with a severely overloaded train. In all of my years driving I have never seen a fellow engineer to have zero respect for his/her job.
@michaelcharisseguymon1923
@michaelcharisseguymon1923 3 года назад
They need a slow order on that section of track until it can be repaired.
@kevineckert6073
@kevineckert6073 3 года назад
It's on now 🤣
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
ok
@wonst186
@wonst186 3 года назад
Last car over-filled on the end, person doing the loading not capable of doing their job, or (most likely) doesn't care...
@sd90mac61
@sd90mac61 3 года назад
OMG, 😯😲😱😵that engineer needs to slow his ass down jus a bit, with those tracks a bit off level and off set overloaded cars, thats a receipe for disaster, my goodness, that was some scary shitt😱😵!!!! And of all places right at a crossing, that's jus bad, bad, BAD!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHY YOU DONT STOP RIGHT IN FRONT OF A CROSSING, IVE SEEN TRAINS BOUNCE UP AND DOWN ON THE CROSSNS AS WELL, PRETTY SCARY STUFF I TELL YOU😭😭 THANKS FOR SHARING THIS WITH ME, great job.👍
@geosutube
@geosutube 3 года назад
MOW problem at the yard.
@wayneakins7850
@wayneakins7850 3 года назад
Need to reset the ties
@sanddabz5635
@sanddabz5635 3 года назад
Was that my wife driving......damn.....she just said she was going out for groceries.........
@robertgregory2618
@robertgregory2618 3 года назад
How do people sleep at night when them horns blast like that.
@brucescott2649
@brucescott2649 3 года назад
After awhile you just don’t pay attention to them. Coal trains run by here twice a day. Never pay attention to them. You do hear them your brain just edits them into the background.
@old_bayrailfan5312
@old_bayrailfan5312 3 года назад
We sleep with a smile on our face
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