As I mention in the video, I’m working on a whole series of videos about the Meta module, so please let me know if there’s anything special you would like to see, and if you have any questions about it.
What happens if you patch it in an audio feedback loop? There will be some delay, just curious how easy it is to control. Also, ask Leonardo if he would consider Vult modules in there.
I'm so glad you are covering the MetaModule. I can't think of anyone more qualified to look at this. This module seems to have so much potential. I am excited to get one this week, hopefully.
Great to hear there’s a series of videos planned! It would be great to see how the module could render the ‘steevio’ technique more efficient in hardware, without all the need for matrix mixers, switched multiples, precision adders etc.
This is so freaking cool!! So many possibilities... I recently picked up your eurorack basics course, and I'm really, really enjoying it. Thank you Omri for all your great content ❤
This is good, thanks for this man! Great run through and was wanting your opinion on this one for sure. This covers the main things I think I was curious about, but I am looking forward to the series. Very cool indeed!
It looks really cool, but I don't see a reason to replace my ES-8 with it. Not yet, anyway. The advantage for performance use, by making a computer unnecessary, might be negated by the many bugs (mentioned by Loopop).
Super interested in seeing you explore any aspect of the module. I've also been thinking about using just a few module we'd all like to have in euro, but have not. So for me, personally, it would be cool to see a video like 'the top 10 modules in VCV that will change your eurorack experience'. A top 3 is fine too :). Also, I did not see a clock-in. Can it be clocked from the outside?
Yeah, there's a lot to explore with it, since there are so many interesting modules in VCV... There are 8 inputs that you can use also for clocks. You can decide which input will do what so you can also have multiple sequencers in it, and clock each with a different clock source, for example.
Really looking forward to your series on this module! I'd be interested in a modular mixer with maybe three sends into internal/external effects, into a looper and then with as much end of chain processing as it can handle :)
Amazing! I was hoping you'd do some videos on this module. I'd love to know about recording (once it's available) and tips for quadraphonic mixing, panning & FX. Cheers!
Well, Omri, FINALLY! I've been pitching this idea, of using VCV Rack in a hardware module, for soooooo long, on VCV forums, with various youtubers, various hardware devs, even you! My questions/comments to you on midilar, running VCV headless, etc etc. were all about running VCV without the overhead of Windows/mac os/linux. Honestly it all seemed a no-brainer to me, so much so that I tried doing it myself, with raspberry pi, esp32 devices like the Daisy, a dedicated mini pc with a touch screen, and so 4ms finally did it. Hooray! Now, my brain is already doing the what's next, because the Meta module is still not a one complete VCV patch, but a set of VCV modules. So 4ms could offer a standalone module with enough cpu horsepower to do that. I'm sure you will be doing at least another video, so what is the Meta's "OS" (is it Linux), can the OS be grafted onto other hardware, like a mini pc? Not sure if Andrew is okay with the licensing issues, but this could all open up a VCV Marketplace where devs can license their modules to end users to use on general purpose eurorack hardware, or even on pc's running the 4ms Meta OS. So cool!
I was so happy to see the Geodesics was coming out with the first release. A large part of my current physical rack is being designed around the META (Dangerous, right? Zoia is the backup if this bugs out), so it's arrival in less than 48 hours will makes that rack finally able to start being realized.
Interesting, thanks for the overview! Good to see you can use VCV modules to process external audio, but I imagine the most common use case for this will be people that have quite a few hardware VCOs already and want to use the generative sequencers in VCV. Could be good for live use too, avoiding the need for a laptop on stage. Personally I'm still not tempted to go hardware, but it's a cool development.
The idea is brilliant and has lots of potential...,if only it wasn't a 3u module. I get the reasoning behind the eurorack size, but I would prefer something like this as a standalone unit. Something like the mpmidi controller but with a built in audio device with dc coupled in and outs...
I think you have to have the module, I think it's a bit expensive but if you think about how many modules you have with it, it's ok for the price. I am also enthusiastic about Befaco Oneiroi, wow, that will be expensive :) Dear Omri, thank you very much for the video, Cheers my friend^^
That's a cool module. I'm sticking to in the box cuz I'm not made of money, but it's def cool. I've also seen modules that run puredata patches, which is another tool I've played with a lot. I made a CS-80 emulation in both VCV Rack and PureData and the VCV Rack was very heavy on the computer, but the PureData one was no load at all. Granted PureData is much more complicated. I guess my question is how well this will scale.
Great video as always Omri! I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on how this compares to using an ES-9 with VCV Rack on the computer. I know you did some videos on a hybrid setup with the ES-9 a while back, but the Meta fills a similar role in that regard. My rack is always right next to my computer, so would this offer better latency for instance? Any need to calibrate anything? etc.
@@OmriCohen-MusicDid you mean to respond to op’s question? I am also curious what your findings are for latency of the meta vs an expert sleepers hybrid setup? Thanks!
I'm looking forward to when 4MS will finish their collection for VCV! Now some of their modules (I personally checked only PEG) crash VCV! And, as it seems to me, PEG is much inferior to emulation from SOFTUBE.
i think it would have been better if they made the virtual moduels to specifically be used with the interface as knob per function so the metamodule felt like a purpose built module for each different virtual module it could be. Like how you can flash the noise engineering modules bios and change what they do because they share a common interface. Having it just use vcv modules makes it too clunky and time consuming to setup and use.
On the contrary I believe the tie-in with vcv is its strength. There are are other multi-purpose-virtual-studio-in-one modules and patch creation is a menu-diving nightmare to set up. Here you have the alternative to prepare everything on a large monitor then export it. You can see the difference in Loopop’s video.
Thanks Omri. Are there any mixers available with the MetaModule? Also is it possible to use 2 modules from VCV within MetaModule at the same time…say a sequencer and a mixer for example?
Yeah, there are a few mixers, and I'm sure there will be more added. I will try to make a video about this also. And yes, you can use multiple modules at the same time, even if they are not connected to one another. You can connect them independently to the ins and outs.
To me this module in particular begs the question "What are we doing?" Someone somewhere will build an entire system with these and I'm just gonna SMH. Whatever.
Is the vult stuff ported over? How about mutable instruments? Surge XT? Squinky labs? Any Befaco modules? Pretty sweet that valley, geodesics, and count modula are in there.
Seems pretty neat. Should be fine as long as you don't do something like make a 20,000v control signal via some accumulator module. (One of the silly things VCV would let you do that doesn't quite make sense. Pretty sure this thing really wouldn't do it though.)
This module is like Expert Sleepers' Disting EX on drugs! Some stream-of-thought questions from watching the video, Do we think 4MS could ever allow an external monitor via that USB port? Can VCV's Host module work on this module if I had a folder full of VST's? What about the input/output modules? I understand that the CPU percentage at the top is helpful to gauge its limitations, but it would be cool to see some real-world examples of how many modules you can fit in this thing before it suffocates. Also, what happens when you hit 100%? Does it just start glitching out? Were you sent any of the expander modules? I'm specifically curious about the reliability of the wi-fi module.
You can see it in the Loopop video. Hint: It's definately not as powerful as your computer, but you wouldn't expect that. It's all about which modules you use. They are very different regarding CPU consumption.
@@LarsBjerregaardThat all makes sense. I just think it's good to have a solid idea of exactly where those limits are, so you know what you have to work with. Cheers!
