You should check out his appearance on the Tonight Show. It’s a much longer version of the same skit. Some hilarious stuff in there, including some miscounting.
Ahhhh this is funny, when I was younger, I knew this feeling. I still do sometimes when I'm rotated on 3rd and 4th parts in chamber ensembles. I just hope that any 4th trumpet player know how significant they are. Without a strong lower end of the trumpet section, the section can sound awfully hollow without the harmonies and I know this from experience. As our jazz director tells us for example, the foundation of our sound comes from the lower end of the band (sorry for going off on a tangent btw haha).
As a first trumpet I can say that that 2nd 3rd and even forth trumpet greatly support my intonation. It literally gives me more power because there already is something I can lean on. Everytime I Play without them is so much harder and exhausting.
@@imnotchilla9482 If you think that's weird, you gotta hear about my roommate last year. We were randomly paired my school and both were named Ethan and played in the marching band
Sectionals in Jr. high, cellos in the room because they’re a pain to move, firsts in the hallway because it’s second best, seconds outside for their music to blow away, violas in the closet because there were two of us and we could fit...
Viktor Nikiforov Oh noooo! 😭 Hey though, you’ve got unique experience as a soloist(?) I’m really lucky to have 10 other violists in my Orchestra right now(somehow more violas than cellos!) I was the only violist for about a quarter in 8th grade though : (
@@viktornikiforov3602 in my orchestra, one of my fellow violists went as a soloist for the entire semester, since we are divided in last name and there were only four violists (3 were in the other rotation for covid). Thankfully I switched to her rotation and now she isnt a soloist anymore. Also I really wish more people played viola, such a beautiful instrument!!!
My mom is in her 60s and she’s what I refer to as “first call last chair” trombone. She’s the absolute last call for a soloist but if you need to fill up that seat at the end of the row playing nothing interesting she’s there. She gets called all the time to back up other more competent 3rd or 4th part trombonists. It’s quite the niche.
I remember playing 3rd/4th trumpet for some of Duke Ellington's charts and let me tell you, the story is different! There were licks that were higher than the 1st trumpet part! It was intense!
I don't think you all realize that this is a parody. It is meant to be funny. This man obviously can play much better then this, he shows it in some of the rips that he does in between the phrases. It is meant to be funny and not taken too seriously.
@@notJ1m No, not everyone. I remember watching this video 9 or 10 years ago, and people back then were badmouthing Barbutti on this very comment board because they were apparently too young to know who he is, saying how terrible he was playing that trumpet. I told one of them that this was a comedy bit, not serious music.
Our trumpet section was so strong we would rotate into the 4th slot just to keep the first chair fresh. We simply passed parts around! It was no big deal! However, every part adds more richness to the harmony. Especially important, the 3rd part!
I can't but that's probably because I play professional level pieces and when I saw what I have to play for the upcoming concert I thought I accidentally printed the part for flute instead of tenor sax
Haven't seen that in a while...I met Pete in the early 60s, my dad played drums with Pete a lot in those days. I ended up working with him quite a bit in the 70s. Love him!!!
@GMwoogitmaster18 -- Duke was one of the only composers who wrote parts specifically for each of his players and their individual capabilities. "4th Trumpet" in Duke's book doesn't mean the same thing that it does with most writers
sktyler1 So very true! All his parts were conceived for the unique abilities of each individual in each section. 4th Part with Duke was not the common scoring practice used by everyone else. That made his music truly unique.
I'm an old guy so I can tell you who this is. His name is Pete Barbuti. an accomplished musician and a comedian. He mostly did routines on accordion. I like this one.
I loved playing 4th chair, typically it was all of the off chord notes that really shined and that creativeness flowing through the different jazz ensembles. HOWEVER, this is still a hilarious clip that was my life back then!
I understand the feels. I used to play 3rd trumpet all the time. Now a sophomore in High School all I ever really play is 1st trumpet, except for a few songs where I play 2nd.
This is hilarious! Just for the record though, the 4th part has the solos in the majority of big band charts though. Tom Harrell played the 4th part in the Vanguard Band, Ray Nance played 4th in Duke's band.
Normally the solos are on the second part (book), though they can be on any part, depending on the arrangement. In the cases you refer to the arrangements were specially written for famous players you mention who happened to play 4th. It's an important part, forming the base of the chord voicing for the section and is rarely as simple as this. It often duplicates the first part a few notes or an octave down and can go fairly high on occasion. It's essential to have a class player on each part and in the best bands the 4th player will usually be as technically gifted as the lead player. He or she may also have a decent high register also, though they may not be as comfortable as the lead player to stay there all day. A friend of mine was the 4th player in one of the UK's leading professional big bands a number of years ago. The lead player left and as the only other player with a really world class high register he was asked to take on the lead book. Which he did.
Second trumpet is the traditional soloist. However there are many exceptions, Stan Kenton being a very notable one. He had five trumpeters and The soloist played fifth part. I think that was mainly to save his lip for the solos. A fifth trumpet part really is non-essential, except when playing some very complex chords, which Stan Kenton did. But anyway, with five trumpets, the fifth trumpeter could actually sit out sections in order to save up for his solo or for cutting out to go up front to the microphone.
@Ray Callender ...As far as I know, Duke Ellington didn’t number the parts! They had the cats’ names on them, at least the originals that we used to play from did. (A LONG time ago, at the Manhattan School of Music.) ...Are you related to the great bassist?
This is hilarious. If you’ve never been in a big band, it might not seem to make much sense, but no, this is gold! 😂 As a h.s. Frosh i was in a huge orchestra, playing something like 7th chair!!!!! 😂
@Jj Perry Well, the top part’s fun. If people listened to the bottom it wouldn’t be popular. When I used to perform it, i played it on a viola da gamba.
These parts, on their own, aren’t always exciting, but they add so much to the collective and overall sound. It’s what makes music fun and interesting! This is a funny clip tho
Aahhh, the “inside” parts!! Pete Barbutti-a great comedian!! In a vintage “ Tonight Show” appearance, he came out smoking a cigar, and was going to play piano..before he sat down to play, he stuck a plunger mute on the side of the piano and put the cigar in the hole in the middle....
My mistake!! I originally thought this was taken from one of Mr. Barbutti’s Tonight Show appearances..it’s actually from a show he did with Woody Herman’s band-there’s even a close-up of Woody laughing at one point..I must have been high on the “cough medicine” in the inside pocket of my sports jacket when I said this was from the Tonight Show!!
I totally didn't realize this was Shanty Town til he got to the singing part... Now that I know this, when you relisten to it I'm pretty sure this IS the 4th trumpet part for that song!
I think this man is Pete Barbutti. He had a music comedy act during the sixties. Saw him once or twice in Vegas. Played piano. He was a guest on the Mike Douglas TV show. Used to smoke a big cigar and would rest it while he played piano in a homemade cigar holder made from a toilet plunger.
I always enjoyed 2nd trumpet in the jazz ensembles I've had the privilege to play with. Now in show band's, 1st trumpet in HS and lead/1st trumpet in college marching bands were my all time favorites. I've had the privilege to have played in 15 different states in show bands for competition level show choirs, three different Jazz ensembles, orchestras for theatre companies, aboard Royal Caribbean's Sovereign Of The Seas in two show band's, a jazz band, and as a soloist. I truly enjoy music, and comedy! This is an accurate depiction of what it's like playing a supporting part in any of those groups! 🎺 '78 Bach Strad 37LR, Yamaha Xeno 8335, Mendini MTT-L (About the Mendini: don't knock it til you've tried it! It's a horn that is good for playing around my kids so they don't destroy "daddy's nice ones" it is actually really versatile in tone and has decent timbre, and body throughout) 0== Chuck Findley Marcinkiewicz E13 aka my baby!, Bach Jet Tone 3c, Bach 5c, Schilke 14A4A, and the garbage Cecillio 7C that came with the Mendini.
Very funny! And all too true. In the Barristers Big Band we rotate parts, solos, etc. Everyone works on leading, following, and all aspects of ensemble, and we all become better players. Every part is important.
Thad and Mel wrote such angular lines - his 3rd bone parts are weird too. I don't mind angular - in the melody! - but with the sometimes strange harmonic stuff folks like Thad got goin on it makes the inner lines kind of shit to play
@@havokmusicinc I always felt like he ended up with extra notes in the chord he didn't know what to do with so he said "screw it, give it to the 2nd tenor".
I was 3rd trumpet in high school band. My position was directly behind the 1st trumpet. He got my best licks up close and personal - he didn't like it much!
I'm enjoying this because YT knows I like music nerd type vids and also because 14 years ago ! people felt they needed to explain why this was funny...
@John Doe I am in band and even I don’t know. But if you’re talking about my reply to the original comment, it’s literally just that it’s been 14 years
@John Doe Last chair of most instruments have very boring parts when played by themselves and can be almost insultingly boring to practice... But they're also like the most important part of every section of the band. They play the bottom notes in chords usually.
The same notes to fit the harmony part over and over and over again...priceless. I get the parody, of course, and know this guy has chops to spare, but he plays the part beautifully!
