G'day Ronnie. One somewhat Posh method of 4x4 recovery I got in 2017 ,was An Earth Anchor. Mostly because in.my late 50's at the time I was not in any fit state to dig holes and bury my spare wheel. I take it with.me when out bush as well as an Exhaust Jack. For those other potential moments where other jacks won't help. Cheers Guy.
Hey Ronny. I have been into off roading since I was old enough to drive a truck, but Just wanted to say that I started watching your videos last night and have already learnt so much. Keep up the good work!!!
Another piece of gear you already have is your spare tire. I have been bogged down in a muddy field on the farm with nothing to attach a winch to. So break out your shovel, spare tire and bury it as dead man anchor to attach your winch to. Lucky it only took one of these to reach a stronger solid object for me , but you you could do it as often as needed I suppose.
On my 'D-shackles', i put a rubber O-ring on the pin. Roll it down to the eye end. When it is screwed all the way in, it acts like a lock washer and also keeps the pin from rattling when stored. I hate metallic rattling noises when i'm driving.
your videos are awesome. I have been wheeling for as long as I can remember, and I still learn little bits and tricks from your videos. also I have been on you tube for years and yours is the first channel I have subscribed to. thank you for your time effort and vehicle abuse.
Great info! I bought Miolle brand recovery gear, I was pleased with how well this held up. The strap is well packaged and comes with a storage bag. On our last camping trip I ended up loaning this to some fellow campers (firefighters) in which one of their very large fifth wheel camper rigs sunk in the mud after some rain and parked on an incline. I knew this would be a serious test as the camper was an enormous 5th wheel toy hauler and the truck was a beast too. It had sung down a good 5 inches straight into the ground. I'd estimate at least 22,000 lbs total. The strap worked exactly as intended with no signs of stretch or wear pulling out this beastly rig. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat if I needed one. The firefighters were also impressed with this setup and asked me where I got it. They commented on buying it too so I'd say it get's a official seal of approval. I also had a couple of the D Ring Shackles (2pc) as part of my rescue kit and they were equally impressed with them.
hey mate good vids. just a tip you more than likely already know. when you do up a bow shackle never tightin it up all the way. do it up then back it off about quarter turn. when pulling shackle will slightly close and make it harder to undo. cheers.
Hi Ronny, love yr channel, seen you reference having someone knowing correctly how to snatch recover. Can you do a video on correctly and safely snatching for someone who has never done it. Thank you
1) Bridle chain length must be 5 times in length of the width between the 2 points. 2) I use Hi-lift Jacks all the time - For dozer blades, pulling fence posts, lifting machinery and re-stumping buildings - I NEVER use them for 4wdriving - They're impractical and unsafe. I used to use them for 4wd, but now I know better. 3) I always carry a drag chain for moving logs in the forest. It's the best. 4) There's not much difference between a strap attached to a vehicle with a rated bow shackle and a shackle attached in the middle of two straps. It's just as potentially dangerous either way and if your gear is quality and in good condition then it won't matter. A sling shot is the same from either end. Too many "experts" repeat things that are old wives tales - like the one about how you can't use chains for recovery. People should think outside the square and ask a farmer, forester or park ranger what works and what's best. Anyway, I was happy with this video. It's pretty accurate :-)
+Ade Larsen Point 4 'a shackle attached in the middle of two straps, is more dangerous and will guarantee you most farmers / forest workers would not do it this way
Ronny what do you think about the KINETIC RECOVERY ROPES some guys say that they are better that the snacth straps. Most of the guys use snacth straps i think. What will it be the best one? Thanks in advance
I really like how you do tutorials on your channel mixed in with some 4 wheeling action, nice work :) Im new to the off road scene so this info is great keep it coming :) Ive seen videos on RU-vid that show off road vehicles driving along the beach going through the surf and salt lakes as well. If possible could you add a video to your list of things to do that talks about the dangers of such adventures and how it effects the car and how you would care for the car after to minimize corrosion.
TheShinobiik11 thanks for the feedback and comments, thats a great video suggestion BTW will add it to the growing list of videos :) Personally I stay away from salt water as much as possible but a short tip is to just hose the vehicle down asap, mainly the underside and any roof rack connections, winch, engine bay and this list could go on for a while. Longer trips when its hot and there is a lot of beach driving with direct contact to the vehicle (talking big splashes here) would not be very ideal.
With all that gear, that's a lot of coin sitting there. What would you recommend buying as priority? I have a bit of the opposite problem, being here in the states in harsh NY winters. Its not the sand we worry about, its the snow. I have anchor points, a pin for my hitch, the mat tracks, a shovel, a loop tow strap with D shackles, and a bridal. Wish I could afford a winch, but still saving for the bumper to mount it on first. I think its great, and you have some of the best videos out there for off road info. But hopefully, you realize we can't all go out and buy all that at once. What would you buy first, second, third, etc?
QUESTION, what little bridle rope is that?? I don't have a winch and am looking for a single purpose bridle. It seems way better and smaller than a tree strap!
Good round-up and advice Ronny! Have learned a thing or two since I discovered your channel. Must say its a bit hard for me to understand your australian acccent (english not my first language)(born and raised in Mexico) but Im getting used to it. Will definitely continue to come back, check out and enjoy more stuff.
Thanks for the feedback Sulaiman Alshaya my channel is aimed at anyone world wide so feel free to share my recovery gear videos and any videos for that matter :)
Hey Ronny, awesome videos, gives me everything I need to know as a beginner 4 wheel driver. just wondering if you have ever used a "Bog Out"? They are Australian designed and made (in Cairns, North Queensland, I'm pretty sure). they look like a really good and simple recovery system? would be awesome to hear your views, cheers.
Hey Ronny, Thanks for the channel! I'm new to winching and the vehicle I just purchased pre-owned came with one. I've learned a lot on this series. The question, was asked before but didn't see a response, if you're just starting to build your recovery bag, What pieces of gear would you start with? I'm thinking a tree protector, some bow shackles and a winch block. Thoughts?
good video. its funny that everyones so concerned about the ratings of their d shackles and straps when their winch rope or cable is nowhere near the rating of these things. if your going to break something, its going to be the cable or rope, dont worry so much about having 4 ton rated d shackles.
Nice video gives good basic hints to all new users and refreshers to old hands. Got a question re tyres, how much speedo error did you get when you went up a size rgds Ric
Hello from Canada, Great & informative videos Ronny. Thanks for sharing them with us. Have you ever run into a poisonous animal or insect while camping in the bush or while sorting through your gear when getting it ready to recover a bogged vehicle? Also, what do you think of that Jeep? Is it a great off-road vehicle or a piece of crap. How's it compare to the Rover? What are the largest tires you would use on your 4x4's? Like you we live in a country where there can be hundreds of miles between you & any gasoline. Since Jeeps are known to have small fuel tanks how do you bring along your spare fuel? Do you haul the Gerry cans on the roof racks. How about you making a video on what you would bring along for a trip into the deep outback of your wonderful country with a few of your friends & their vehicles? You can show us some of your wildlife & some good recoveries or getting through some very hard areas with all of your vehicles using your gear? Thanks Ronny
Great Job on the video... I have a 4WD group/club here in the US and we are planning a camping weekend where we will practice the skills in controlled situation. With your permission I would like to show them this video as a primer to the camp out.
Thanks for the feedback Robert Cooper I have no problem with you using it for your 4WD club so yes go for it. Just dont publish it or use it for anything else ;)
Ronny Dahl I live in TN, near the city of Knoxville just outside of the Great Smokey Mtns National park. The trip likely would touch western North Carolina however. If you make it to TN, for say something like the Overland Expo East let me know and I will look you up. Maybe have a beer or two.
i m thinking about getting an off road vehicle, i am not sure to get a Nissan Navara or a Forester. I will use it mostly on the road going to work and all but once in 2-3 months going off road trips. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Those points are usually just for securing the vehicle during transport if it's on the back of a truck or in a shipping container. They are not engineered for the loads that can be applied during recovery situations and may fail if used in that way.
I have a quick question, I recently watched another one of your videos and how you advised not to use recovery points on a bumper if its not attached to the frame. That being said in this video you bring up recovery point hardware in this video around 2:07. I have a Jeep Wrangler and I was wondering if you have any idea of brands and or companies that make aftermarket recovery points tha'tll work with a Jeep Wrangler?
Austin Reish The Jeep in most of our videos has the TJM front bar which comes with recovery points that are bolted to the chassis behind the bar work and then poke out through two slots on the bull bar.
This is recovery gear only, Tyre deflator and compressor I don't see as recovery gear, I have covered them in the beginners guide to 4x4 in another vid.
Hi there, I'm from Fiji. We are from a group in FB (Mud Seekers Fiji). We have Hilux, Landcruiser 79 series, Landcruiser 105, Ford Ranger PX and PX2. Unfortunately, the vehicles we have in Fiji are of a inferior capacity, eg. Hilux 2.5TD without intercooler, Lancruiser 4.2 non turbo straight six. Anyways, are there any place we could install a recovery point in the rear of the hilux? Your tips are very informative and I always share them in our Mud Seekers Fiji page. Are there any tips you could give us for a safer 4wd trip. It is very hard to get accessories for our vehicles here. Most of our vehilces are fitted with bull bars, tow bar, roof racks, winches, side rails and a lot of lightings. Please feel free to check our Facebook page and give us some recommendations on how we could improve. Thanks.
There a few companies that do them, checkout OL as they have more than one option. They source them from a supplier who just makes front recovery points. They will come in a pack of 2 which is ideal. Being a GU I'd say you will have a few options to pick from.
Ronny, are there any recovery point accessories for the Y62 Patrol? the reason I ask is, it is very difficult finding anything as far as accessories go for this car and I would like to do as you said and have proper recovery points on my car. Cheers.
+GTMQ8 Road safe Brand might do them which can be found at Opposite Lock stores or you could try ARB which should do them by now I would have thought (Y62 has been out for a while now). Let me know how you go so I can point others in the right direction.
+Ronny Dahl (4 Wheeling in W.A.) Thanks. I think I am going to ask our local ARB dealer here in Kuwait but they usually tell me this or that is back ordered. I went in a couple of weeks ago looking for a snatch strap and the EZ-Deflator and they didn't have them in stock. I will check out the shop again and see if they have them, Thanks again mate.
Shackles usually have a 6:1 or a 5:1 (not 4:1) and i think these would be great to try instead of bow shackles www.westechrigging.com/sling-saver-shackle-1021057.html
You can also buy them directly from road safe now if you want to save a couple of dollars. The ones that ARB sell are actually road safe points just re-painted, re-branded and sold at a higher price. Lol. Thieves.
Great video but cables and ropes drop straight to the ground if they snap and will not cut you in half or injure you in any way no matter what pressure they are under. Try it and see.
***** yeah just make sure its rated and within the loads required. A tree trunk protector is a better replacement, I'd rather use the slings for removing trees etc.
