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4x4 Soft Shackles vs Bow (Steel) Shackles 

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Soft shackles are becoming more and more popular on the 4x4/overlanding scene. More companies are making soft shackles then ever before, gator jaw, factor 55, roadsafe, bubba rope, to name a few.
But are soft shackles better for 4wd recoveries the then good ole steel bow shackle that has been around since the birth of 4wds and people getting bogged.
In this video we talk about the pros and cons of both!
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Not all load factors were consider in this video for the sake of simplicity, i.e. friction, load angle factor angles on the shackles etc. The information should be used only as a guide, refer to your manufacturers manuals for the recovery gear you have.

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@MrFastFarmer
@MrFastFarmer 5 лет назад
Sadly the industry has become plagued with marketing BS and companies gouging money out of people. It refreshing and lovely to here someone speak facts and practicality. Thank You.
@breadcrums7853
@breadcrums7853 4 года назад
You are so right, I see so much crap been advertised as better then the simple cheaper and more reliable items I use for 40 years. A good example is the rope in place of wire rope, I am still using my 8000 lb cable and it never ever broke. Yet so many guys have to replace their rope on the winch and even take a spare. lol All this BS is just grabbing the money from the young and foolish that no longer listen to their elders.
@steiny3353
@steiny3353 4 года назад
@@breadcrums7853 ...you're using wire cable ? I was wondering about the rope being better than wire. doesn't make sense to me. ( i.e...I think I would rather wire). I've seen tests done with a bulldozer testing wire cables with a lot of maniquins strategically placed, bags and whatnot lain over the cable and they didn't seem to be much help....to the maniquins. (don't know if I spelt that right). Would that winch dampener do the same job with a wire cable ?
@wiley1421
@wiley1421 4 года назад
@@breadcrums7853 the wire rope kinks and corrodes proper rigging and care goes a long way with both rope and cable
@Johnny-tq9no
@Johnny-tq9no 4 года назад
People have also been killed by steel shackles and cables that snap while synthetic is much safer... When off-roading the extra safety is definitely a plus considering there are often situations that are far less than ideal for recovery and everything can't be done perfectly.... Also rope on a winch has many benefits mostly that you're not going to get a bird's nest and you don't need to keep tension on the line so you can do a lot more with snatch blocks etc much easier and it's much lighter
@Johnny-tq9no
@Johnny-tq9no 4 года назад
Also sideloading shackles can be bad which is often hard to avoid when off-roading
@swankydog
@swankydog 4 года назад
"It's rated to go into the bin!". Love it. Well spoken.
@DIvonBriesen
@DIvonBriesen 4 года назад
a rope like that has a LOT of uses... i'm cynical of anyone who says that. I wouldn't hang my life on it more than a moment, but it's good for a ton (literally) of other things.
@getaflattyinya
@getaflattyinya 4 года назад
"It's no joke guys" SMILES UNCONTROLLABLY
@brentbondura7339
@brentbondura7339 4 года назад
I thought that too. LOL
@duvalpenny100
@duvalpenny100 4 года назад
Lmao, homie held that smile the whole 27:09.
@MrArchimus
@MrArchimus 5 лет назад
Definatley the smartest 4X4 RU-vidr by far! Good work on the explanations mate!
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 4 года назад
Is he the only one? never see another soul in his videos lol
@JD______
@JD______ 3 года назад
Definatley
@bushy0299
@bushy0299 4 года назад
Mate you're heaps smarter than those dudes who cut the sleeves off their shirts. Love your down to earth explanations. Cheers.
@ellaausic7388
@ellaausic7388 4 года назад
Those 2 with their sleeves cut off are a pair of clowns!!
@manlaibaatarganzorigt9049
@manlaibaatarganzorigt9049 3 года назад
@@ellaausic7388 who are they? I’m new to off-roading therefore I want to know who to listen to, thanks.
@dinghyride
@dinghyride 5 лет назад
I am not a car guy. I am a sailor. I use synthetic line in a whole other manner, but am very familiar with engineering of high loads with synthetic and metal rigging components and I must say I agree with everything you just said. I will add tho, you did not mention side load issues of metal shackles that can break them at lower loads than rated breaking loads. Synthetic soft shackles won’t have that problem. Cheers!
@TheCls63
@TheCls63 4 года назад
what do you mean by side load?
@jdnort6
@jdnort6 4 года назад
@@TheCls63 I believe what he is referring to is if you are pulling on the shackle from an angle or from one side rather than pulling from straight on
@professormoptop
@professormoptop 3 года назад
bob roger metal shackles aren’t made to be pulled in another manner than one direction. Soft shackles are your fix. Sailor here as well and soft shackles are awesome for sailing applications.
@ke6gwf
@ke6gwf 3 года назад
@@TheCls63 if you look at the rigging charts for a shackle (any good brand will have them), they will show the maximum load capacity for a straight pull, and also how much it derates as your leg angle increases, or you get into side pulls. For instance, picture a shackle mounted to a bumper, with the pin through a thick metal plate and the bow hanging free. If you put a strap on and pull straight, 90 degrees to the bumper, like pulling it out of a muddy rut, you have the maximum strength as stamped on the shackle But if it has slid off the side of a hill, and now you are pulling from the side, instead of pulling straight on the pin, you are now trying to twist the pin, and only loading one side of the bow. Now you lose most of the rated capacity because you are side loading it.
@sirandmaam6563
@sirandmaam6563 Год назад
Never double load the pin 👍🏻
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 5 лет назад
This was virtually one of the best virtual videos talking about virtual situations with virtual equipment I've ever seen. :D ;)
@brodycaruso5394
@brodycaruso5394 4 года назад
jedironin380 lol
@desabrir
@desabrir 4 года назад
Virtually the best comment here.
@alexday8514
@alexday8514 4 года назад
Same
@nuffsed196
@nuffsed196 3 года назад
That's virtually what i thought too.
@Derek.2real
@Derek.2real 3 года назад
Ic Ic to get
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 5 лет назад
I like to keep a couple extra soft shackles in my truck’s everyday recovery kit, because in the winter time (I’m in the US) when we get snow and the idiots who don’t know how to drive get stuck and block my route I need to move them and there is often no good recovery point and if there is you’re usually not going to be able to get a bow/ D-Ring shackle in it. So a soft shackle with a wear sleeve makes more recoveries possible.
@cosmokenney
@cosmokenney 4 года назад
Drew w any idea where I can get a wear sleeve? I've looked on Amazon but couldn't find them - I don't think I was using the right search terms.
@cheatoracingteam
@cheatoracingteam 4 года назад
@@cosmokenney I just bought some cheapies with wear sleeves and an extra one per shackle smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MDZ8PFN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@orangeshaw2370
@orangeshaw2370 4 года назад
Wear sleeves, have you tried; a) electrical Empire Sleeving, b) to sew your own, or tried to just use c.1) plain heat shrink or c.2) electrical Nitto tape ?
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 3 года назад
I've never used a soft shackle in person, on a video they look like if you lose tension in the line they could come undone - that the knot could pop out as easy as it pops in. Is that not a concern?
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 года назад
@@alkaholic4848 nah they don’t come undone that easy. There is enough friction in the way they loop the Knot/ball through the shackle itself that it’ll hold even with no tension on it. You can snug up the “hole” around the base of the ball when you put it through. Also the diameter of the hole is not much bigger than the knot. But yes there is a chance it could come undone with no tension on it, but that would probably come down to user error and not having the knot all the way through the hole. The Synthetic line used to make them is a good bit stiffer than it looks in pictures and videos, very flexible but not exactly a limp noodle. I have never seen one come undone without human aide.
@Al-Fiallos
@Al-Fiallos 4 года назад
Excellent tutorial. You're a born teacher, you know your subject and know how to present it. Love your emphasis on safety.
@MrTimstaaa
@MrTimstaaa 5 лет назад
Your videos are simple straightforward and full of information. On behalf of me and my friends who are relatively new to off-roading we've learnt heaps from you and would like to thank you very much. We look forward to seeing your new videos every time.
@iggie1439
@iggie1439 5 лет назад
You have to be the best presenter of products and information with a great way of projecting your voice. I will be looking for more of your presentations. Regards IGGIE.
@dashcoja
@dashcoja 5 лет назад
Brilliant explanation. Passed onto my son who is new to 4 wheel driving
@muzzaball
@muzzaball 4 года назад
I always love watching the mechanics of recovery and loved the science of it too. Thanks Michael for another terrific, informative and interesting video. Cheers.
@timothylinn
@timothylinn 5 лет назад
Awesome vid! Not only because you explained best practices but because you explained why. Extremely helpful.
@javiermontoya8032
@javiermontoya8032 4 года назад
Thanks for taking all the extra time to run through diff scenarios. It is VERY much appreciated.
@eightballsidepocket
@eightballsidepocket 5 лет назад
Dropping mad science! I don't think I ever have any questions left at the end of your videos. ;)
@Jeff_MT09
@Jeff_MT09 5 лет назад
Awesome instructional video. Thanks so such. Keep up the great work. Cheers. Jeff👍😀
@cfoadventures6210
@cfoadventures6210 5 лет назад
Awesome informative video cobba! Been binge-watching your videos and rate the way you present stuff and yourself! Giving me more motivation!
@sgtmac21
@sgtmac21 4 года назад
Just wanted to say thanks. Has to be the best video on recovery issues that I've watched! Very well presented and easy to understand. Thanks
@chrishughes1687
@chrishughes1687 3 года назад
By far the clearest and most comprehensive video I’ve seen so far (& I’ve have been training 4x4 recovery for 30 years!) Looking forward to viewing more of your videos, from here in Wales! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@treadlightly.australia3606
@treadlightly.australia3606 5 лет назад
Good to see you paid attention to your maths teacher, another great video👍
@rollyb5061
@rollyb5061 5 лет назад
explained it very well Michael, some top advice, love the remote winch
@elaineclguerrero5592
@elaineclguerrero5592 5 лет назад
Thanks so much for your attention to SAFE use of these things! Thorough, informative, very helpful video. Especially love your showing a practical use for physics and math 😊
@BelmanSuperStrat
@BelmanSuperStrat 4 года назад
This was a great refresher. Thank you for giving up your time to make this.
@williamwapling218
@williamwapling218 5 лет назад
So good to hear real figures. Great job. Great channel.
@kruzmisile
@kruzmisile 5 лет назад
Outstanding explanation! Can't tell you how many arguments stuck I've tried to drive it into stubborn heads about simple physics.
@normanking1022
@normanking1022 3 года назад
What a good, clear authentic presenter you are. The explanations are easily understood, including the application of maths to calculate loads. I'm now looking for that angle measuring app!
@jwa718
@jwa718 5 лет назад
Fascinating video---learned a few things about rigging et al I never knew---or sadly never considered. Kudos for sharing your knowledge M8!
@matthewrobinson9293
@matthewrobinson9293 5 лет назад
One of your best videos yet, awesome work - thankyou.
@rossbagley9015
@rossbagley9015 4 года назад
Jesus. This guy let's more knowledge go as an aside to his core point (planning winching rig around weak links, etc.) than most youtubers put in their whole videos.
@Captain5ir1oin
@Captain5ir1oin 4 года назад
This is an EXCELLENT video! I'm researching a winch purchase and recovery gear, and I appreciate your approach and explanation. Thank you for such an informative and substantial covering of this topic!
@prospector14
@prospector14 2 года назад
An outstanding video, with clear explanations, visual aids, and rationales for each configuration. Very educational and well done. Cheers from Canada.
@hilux4x4x3
@hilux4x4x3 5 лет назад
Brilliantly done, clear concise explanation & examples. Your a master of the KISS principle. Good on ya! Subscribed.
@louisferdinand5776
@louisferdinand5776 5 лет назад
Well done mate, Very instructive, you can tell you've put a lot of effort and research on making the Video.
@ZoomStranger
@ZoomStranger 3 года назад
Another cheerful enthusiastic chat, always a pleasure to look at even though I've had the same landy for nearly 40 years. Good one Seekie
@kcsydney688
@kcsydney688 5 лет назад
You've taken your videos up a few notches. Really good. Learnt some new stuff.
@nickjennings3500
@nickjennings3500 5 лет назад
What a super video. Very easily understood. Many Thanks Nick from UK
@M0N33R
@M0N33R 5 лет назад
Thanks for all the clever explanations and amazing presentations! Cheers mate :)
@christopherellis5256
@christopherellis5256 4 года назад
Great job explaining recovery and including safety points
@samhaveaguess4284
@samhaveaguess4284 3 года назад
Great to finally see a video with all the facts on those soft shackle !! And perfect description on when to use each !
@MacWalther
@MacWalther 5 лет назад
I think most of the danger is kneeling in sand with shorts on in Austraila.
@Al-Fiallos
@Al-Fiallos 4 года назад
You're right, they have the deadliest snakes and spiders in the world. Lions and Tigers, oh my, oh my!
@davecarter34
@davecarter34 4 года назад
Its alot worse at the 4wd nudist camp
@Jevandtieriel
@Jevandtieriel 4 года назад
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 4 года назад
"Sand will cover this place. Sand will cover you."
@Georgiaguntraining
@Georgiaguntraining 3 года назад
Even the SAND is tryin to kill you!
@brucesmith5245
@brucesmith5245 5 лет назад
That was great, one of the best I've seen.
@bigdog33bad
@bigdog33bad 4 года назад
After watching this video, I liked and subscribed immediately! This video is filled with very useful and functional information. I'm looking forward to watching more so keep up the great work!!
@dave175a
@dave175a 5 лет назад
Awesome effort on the vids mates, the quality and information shines through.
@MichaelWilson-hp2xg
@MichaelWilson-hp2xg 5 лет назад
This is BETTER than the Learning Channel.......THANKS BRO!!!!
@tedbower685
@tedbower685 5 лет назад
there is no way i would be using a soft shackle on the sharp metal edges of that snatch block. great work keep it up
@johndavidwolf4239
@johndavidwolf4239 3 года назад
If it is all you had, one would need to apply a 'stress concentration' safety factor to it, to me, 2:1 seems reasonable, also if the setup was stressed to the limit of the wench, I would very carefully inspect the soft shackle for any fiber damage.
@loudandclearmedia
@loudandclearmedia 4 года назад
Greetings from California! I just happened upon your channel while watching overlanding vids, and really like your content. Nice, simple yet thorough explanations of everything. Keep it up.
@artlopez1561
@artlopez1561 4 года назад
Awesome tutorial!! A newbie like me is really learning alot from your outdoor classroom. Thank you mate and keep up the great videos.
@gregtoth7534
@gregtoth7534 5 лет назад
Absolute gold mate! Thank you
@chrisj1863
@chrisj1863 4 года назад
Really well produced, complete and above all, correct. The on screen annotations should quieten even the most ardent disbelievers.
@kristinvogt6980
@kristinvogt6980 5 месяцев назад
GREAT EXAMPLES!! As a visual learner AND new to recovery, you helped me understand! Thank you
@robertleeevans
@robertleeevans 5 лет назад
Love your teaching method by adding the math and physics in situations. I did not know that the farther tree would be a better choice when you have a weaker winch it seems like something to always keep in mind. Thanks.
@TheDl1000
@TheDl1000 5 лет назад
Great video well done very informative Like the soft shackles but good to see you explaining the positives of the old shackle and there not bothered by sharp edges which could effect the soft shackle rendering it useless if care is not taken Cheers
@ED-es2qv
@ED-es2qv 4 года назад
When using an “equalizer strap”, as you called it, make sure you don’t create a short triangle bridle. If you hook a short chain between your hooks, then pull from that, you create huge forces pulling the hooks together. If it’s straight across, the initial force is near infinite. There used to be a lot of old trucks with two tow hooks bent toward each other. It bends the frame, if it doesn’t snap your chain. Yours is great, at about 6 feet plus each leg, that’s plenty. I probably wouldn’t use a tree saver for that, or you might be too short.
@NatureBetsLast
@NatureBetsLast Год назад
That's the same reason you want to watch the angle off the tree, too wide and your sling starts lose strength
@irachandler3314
@irachandler3314 4 года назад
Excellent recovery tutorial, beyond the coverage of the shackles. Well done!
@trevorhendy1
@trevorhendy1 3 года назад
Mate, big thank you, brilliant video, as always. You are making learning and growing my 4wd skills a lot easier, safer and just plain fun.
@StarLight-yk6es
@StarLight-yk6es 5 лет назад
Yea Good Work Bud ! Clear and informative , Thanks for sharing. :)
@andyaskew1543
@andyaskew1543 5 лет назад
Best video on this subject I have ever seen...
@wyomingguy4743
@wyomingguy4743 4 года назад
Full of useful information. Very well presented. As a bonus he always smiles while he talks! Fantastic mate!
@WideAwakeHuman
@WideAwakeHuman 3 года назад
Solid recovery video man... Thanks!
@jimyeats
@jimyeats 4 года назад
9:45 Matts Offroad Towing and Recvery: Yeah I'm gonna do that.
@DavidVoxDem
@DavidVoxDem 3 года назад
He uses like 20+ ton boat ropes and steel chains though, not these garbage flat straps.
@jordanl5628
@jordanl5628 3 года назад
@@DavidVoxDem he uses kinetic snatch ropes with a max breaking strength of 25,600 pounds.
@TheHopback
@TheHopback 5 лет назад
Keep in mind, recovery straps and rope need to be clean, if they are lodged with dirt it can damage them
@gmdeutsch
@gmdeutsch 2 года назад
Thank you! Great bit of information. Well narrated. Nice job!
@user-wz3sw9xy5l
@user-wz3sw9xy5l Месяц назад
very educational as i have just bought a winch have got a good idea on how to get out of a sticky situation since watching your video thank you keep the videos coming regards Phil
@johnmoon3848
@johnmoon3848 5 лет назад
Michael, only you can make such an utterly fascinating tutorial on bow, soft shackles and wench use!!
@johnwyman6331
@johnwyman6331 5 лет назад
I really don't think he's going to show you the use of his wench in the tutorial!
@jdnort6
@jdnort6 4 года назад
"if it doesn't hurt you, it might kill you" 😂
@leowolfe8525
@leowolfe8525 2 года назад
Without a doubt the best explanation of using a winch and shackles and so forth that I have ever seen. Extremely complete explanation
@Komuniecki
@Komuniecki 3 года назад
Awesome video as usual, you're my go to guy for explanations of all things recovery. Keep it up!
@lsgemini7686
@lsgemini7686 5 лет назад
Great video mate way to much fluff getting around at the moment with people pushing them soft shackles. Bow shackles been used safely by responsible people for decades!
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine 4 года назад
LSgemini * agreed. My steel shackles don’t care about sharp edges, uv light, mud, or hot exhaust pipes, it’ll be around long after I’m gone.
@Johnny-tq9no
@Johnny-tq9no 4 года назад
Bow shackles have also killed plenty of people
@MsKinnara
@MsKinnara 4 года назад
To reduce wear & tear on soft shackles run them threw a piece of garden hose to protect it.
@carywood3946
@carywood3946 4 года назад
Awesome tip
@MS-ho9wq
@MS-ho9wq 4 года назад
Hey yeah, nice idea. I guess old bicycle inner tube would work too.
@melissamichele6009
@melissamichele6009 4 года назад
Cary Wood j
@santiagopagnanelli9596
@santiagopagnanelli9596 4 года назад
Great video and explanation!!! Loved the way you say "never ever ever"!!!
@davidhollingsworth5665
@davidhollingsworth5665 4 месяца назад
This is an awesome video very informative. I definitely learned 90 percent of what I know about recovery from this video. Grate job man
@fiksconstruction2204
@fiksconstruction2204 5 лет назад
mate your gonna be the next presenter for 4wd action if your not careful, keep up the good work.
@dingodazz3724
@dingodazz3724 4 года назад
@Seek Adventure Great video as always. Just one point on the snatch block use, while it does double the strength of the rope technically to 16t, it will always snap at the centre of the pulley wheel at a pulling force of only 8t. This is due to the rope being pulled in both directions at once with the load (pulling the vehicle & the winch pulling) and creates the highest strain point right in the centre of that pulley as the breaking point is only 8t on the rope in a single run - and that is all there is on the pulley. Unfortunately it is not fully understood by 99.9% of people. A snatch block is really good for under-powered winches and gives you a 2:1 Mechanical Advantage. Keep up the great work, always enjoy the content.
@beachflight
@beachflight 4 года назад
You're wrong about the force being doubled. It's no more likely to break at the pulley than anywhere else. I had to do some research to confirm this because intuitively what you say makes sense, but the doubled force supported by the pulley is transmitted to the wheel of the pulley by the side of the rope in compression, the tension in the rope stays equal throughout the entire rope in a pulley system.
@scubbarookie
@scubbarookie 4 года назад
Thank you for this information! Safety is key when getting out of a potentionally dangerous situation.
@63yogi
@63yogi 4 года назад
I usually don't like long videos but you presented this very well with good reasoning. Thank you.
@fpskateboards8222
@fpskateboards8222 5 лет назад
Great vid! Been trying to explain to softshackle experts that they are not indeed stronger than steel. Although I do have some softies rated to 24t MBS. 23:00 Its very likely that that soft shackle would fail being used on that steel snatch block. There isnt a big enough radius and the corners are too sharp. Once you got up to around 4 - 5 tonnes of pressure, maybe less, it would be cut like a knife Would have been good to see the soft shackle paired with one of the new snatch rings which are far safer than the steel snatch block. Although I 100% agree best practice on a steel snatch block is a steel bow shackle. Really enjoying your videos!
@greghuber9773
@greghuber9773 Год назад
I agree , they need to increase the side radius on the snatch block
@vincepalaa
@vincepalaa 5 лет назад
Good info. Another thing worth mentioning is side loading bow shackles (don't do it) however if you're using a bridal strap (tree strap) you can be in a situation where the shackle is slightly side loaded. This cuts down the load rating of the shackle. Up to 50% with a 90° sideload. Depending on the manufacturer of the shackle they'll have a chart with this info. Here's a chart for better explanation from one manufacturer: www.lift-it.com/database/wysiwyg/images/212c.jpg
@remb9614
@remb9614 4 года назад
This was really informative and well put together. Your really good at making videos
@markg3947
@markg3947 4 года назад
This is an awesome video. I finally have a better understanding of how all of this works. Many thanks from Canada. Subscribed!
@Bluelightbandit
@Bluelightbandit 4 года назад
10:55 Watch out mate, got a crab creepin up on ya 6. 🦀😳
@Kakka666712
@Kakka666712 4 года назад
The weakest point, the most unknown, the major point of failure... The tree, the anchore point!
@JustNobodyButME
@JustNobodyButME 4 года назад
The weakest point is always the operator. 🤔😁
@SexyPapasmurf
@SexyPapasmurf 3 года назад
Best video and explanation I’ve heard for winching. Great video Thank you
@johncampbell3628
@johncampbell3628 5 лет назад
Great information and advice. Thank you Michael
@mountainconstructions
@mountainconstructions 5 лет назад
My Mrs loves the Soft Shackles
@OOHYEH
@OOHYEH 5 лет назад
Where ?
@AngryTurds
@AngryTurds 5 лет назад
Giggidy
@MrFastFarmer
@MrFastFarmer 5 лет назад
Not what she tells me...
@mountainconstructions
@mountainconstructions 5 лет назад
Fast Farmer Yeah but she always tells a different story when it's her son
@silknfeathers
@silknfeathers 5 лет назад
You haven't doubled the strength of the rope, you have halved (ignoring friction) the strain.
@SeekAdventure
@SeekAdventure 5 лет назад
Spot on 🙂 Halved the strain, so now it can take double the load
@ravinmudiyanselage5717
@ravinmudiyanselage5717 4 года назад
Very informational and very well articulated
@darrenturner8035
@darrenturner8035 3 года назад
You my friend have a natural gift for imparting valuable knowledge while keeping the subject interesting, you have a big future ahead of you in the 4wd/ camping industry I hope you start making videos again. 👍
@WhackBytch256
@WhackBytch256 4 года назад
“Destruction Test”... 🤗 *click, boom, gone* No, seriously mate, good vid!
@SoCal_rnr
@SoCal_rnr 5 лет назад
In summary, Bow Shackle are cheaper, stronger and require some common sense recovery thought.
@Johnny-tq9no
@Johnny-tq9no 4 года назад
But there's no chance of a soft shackle be coming a projectile that kills your buddy through his windshield
@2centsam927
@2centsam927 3 года назад
Amen. Recovery is rigging performed horizontally. Its not the wing of the space shuttle, use your noggin. Avoid harbor freight, seek out Crosby hardware, ask the old timers what works.
@ROYteous
@ROYteous 3 года назад
I literally just was thinking about wanting to see a video comparing these two things today and here it is in my feed.
@marceld6061
@marceld6061 5 лет назад
Best explanation (and comparison) I have seen to date!
@husq2100
@husq2100 5 лет назад
“ARB don’t tell you what their rating is, breaking strain or SWL is..... but they do say it’s rated for 8000kg recovery “ FFS 🤦🏻‍♂️
@SeekAdventure
@SeekAdventure 5 лет назад
I know right, I think it's all to do with liability, they don't want to say it what the recovery points MBS or SWL is to cover themselves I think 😂
@glennboyd1549
@glennboyd1549 5 лет назад
One would think that the red recovery point, would have rounded edges to protect the rope shackle. That's a dumb design fault ARB.
@MrAfwarren
@MrAfwarren 5 лет назад
you might want to rethink that
@glennboyd1549
@glennboyd1549 5 лет назад
@@MrAfwarren Okay, that "might " be a dumb design fault? Educate me.Don't just leave me hanging.
@MrAfwarren
@MrAfwarren 5 лет назад
The point isnt designed for soft shackles. They weren't around when designing. Also rounded corners lowers the internal area of it greatly reducing the amount the point can take
@glennboyd1549
@glennboyd1549 5 лет назад
@@MrAfwarren Hi, Thanks. I think when I wrote " rounded edges" , I was meaning just give it a chamfer ( carpenter speak) , basically take the sharpish edge off it. A 2mm chamfer wouldn't compromise it's structural integrity ( and that would only need doing at the front /pull part). :)
@MrAfwarren
@MrAfwarren 5 лет назад
Unfortunately it actually would every little bit matters with those types of things. Also increasedthe cost of tooling would make the product even more expensive
@SamySamy-kn9bc
@SamySamy-kn9bc 4 года назад
thank a lot for the time and ingenuity you people show to let others with can happen..excellent video very enlightening..clear proof on stuff you never thing can happen at the pace it happen..THANK A LOT from Snellville Georgia USA
@bc-guy852
@bc-guy852 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant - and timeless advice. Well done.
@4-LOW
@4-LOW 5 лет назад
The fact that the bow shackle could potentially kill a person if/when it breaks is the only reason a guy needs to use soft shackles whenever possible. No amount of durability or strength is worth risking someone's life.
@joestevenson5568
@joestevenson5568 2 года назад
Failure of a soft shackle due to wear can also have fatal consequences. You should consider what you’re using each time you rig - not just default to one or the other.
@byronburton6697
@byronburton6697 5 лет назад
Stealing rohny Dahl’s videos
@StefansView
@StefansView 5 лет назад
Not at all! To me this is more structured and informative and clearly comes from someone who has experience and uses his brain to put things in order (Nothing against Ronny Dahls videos). This is clearly not stolen or copied - just the same topic worked on by a great guy.
@blackers10
@blackers10 5 лет назад
nothing like ronnys videos. same good info. Just a bit more tech info vs the more basic info ronny had or just presented in a different way. We all learn or care to listen to different levels of information.
@ustfdes
@ustfdes 5 лет назад
Great video, you answered everything for everyone! I performed recoveries of 70 (US) ton tanks here in the states, and this brought back memories of training. :D Long time lurker, first-time commenter, keep up the good work.
@SeekAdventure
@SeekAdventure 5 лет назад
Well that's a good first Justin! Thanka for the comment mate 🙂
@harvesthawk5772
@harvesthawk5772 4 года назад
Learned a lot watching this video and others. Glad I found your channel.
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