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Mayonaise is one of the most beautiful chord progressions I've ever heard. It goes so well with the feedback during those pauses in the song, which was the result of a really cheap guitar Billy Corgan had that would whistle every time he stopped playing it. Also, James Iha originally came up with the tuning and main chord progression for Mayonaise, and Billy Corgan wrote the lead parts, and he plays normal power chords in Eb tuning over James' chords, creating that beautiful blend and wall of guitars. It's one of the few songs on Siamese Dream written by both Billy and James, Soma being the other.
Watch the story about that guitar. Someone stole it at a show, and he recently found it and immediately started getting into that time in music. It was the coolest thing I've ever heard. I think he actually wrote a new album using it, but don't quote me on that.
My favourite songs in alternate tunings are Firebird by covet and Blowin' Cool by Swervedriver. Yvette absolutely dominates the FACGCE tuning on any song, but Firebird is such a fun, upbeat song that I always love hearing. Swervedriver's Blowin' Cool is in a pretty cool symmetrical tuning (GCDGCD) and the riffs in that song kick ass SO hard. I recommend anyone who hasn't listened to them go do so, especially if you're into that sludgy, rockin' shoegaze sound :)
This guy would freak out seeing Sonic Youth and my bloody valentine tunings. Also the "E!" tuning is called The Ostrich tuning, it was pioneered by The Velvet Underground. It is used on a song called All Tomorrow Parties
One of the weirdest tunings I came across is the tuning for Last Hope by Paramore, which is DbAbEbGbBbC, from low to high (the chord progression in it is absolutely beautiful...I highly recommend learning it)
A lot of the music im writing right now is in Open C. I dont think I'll ever go back to writing Standard or Drop tunings ever again. Thanks Devin and SYL for giving me the inspiration 🙏🏻🤘🏻
Chris Cornell’s “Seasons” Open F5 tuning, FFCCCF it’s just a beautiful tuning you can mess around in, a lot of drone string stuff, and even try out some slide playing. I tune up, down, down, down, up, up from low to high to not risk breaking a string trying to tune up too much because there’s some big jumps from standard tuning to F and C.
Mark Tremonti uses the same tuning but tuned to a D5. “Ghost of days gone by” by alter bridge is the best example of it Edit: marks is a little different, after looking at your notation (unless you have it flipped) DADADD
Another known player of open C tuning is Devin Townsend - lots of open power chord riffs and octaves make for a real interesting approach to metal guitar.
Kinda mind blowing how they haven't really made it big outside of Australia. Almost nobody here in the US knows who they are. They're such an incredible band.
I've been in LOVE with minor add 9 tunings since I first heard Opeth using D A D F A E, I most commonly use C G C Eb G D though. I've even done some 8 string stuff with minor add 9 tuning.
I sort of discovered this tuning and it's amazing: D Bb D F A D Used it in my last video, just have never heard anyone else using this tuning before, there's a similarity with DADGAD tuning because of three strings tuned to D, but it's different and for me it has opened up some new possibilities.
I came up with a tuning a few years ago right after buying a used guitar. I just tuned all the strings to the nearest note and got DADACE which is great for math-rocky stuff.
Cool to see another video on alternate tunings from you, but I must say; I am BAFFLED at how sonic youth, my bloody valentine and american football have COMPLETELY avoided the discussion! They are (I believe) quintessential acts to look at for crazy cool alternate tunings!
Nice man! I've been experimenting with alt tunings for about 12 years now. Here's my list: E A D G B D (Charlie Simpson Songs) E A D G C F (The Scientist by Coldplay) D A D G B E (Drop D) D A D G A D (Orignal tunes and Covers) D A D A D E (Fatherson Tuning) D A D F# A D (open D) Open Dmaj7: D-A-D-F♯-A-C♯ D A D F A D (Open D Minor. Eleanor Rigby Cover) D A D F# A E D A C# E B E (Catching the Light by Antoine Dufour) D A E F C E (Ashes in the Sea by Antoine Dufour) D# A# CF A# D (Fatherson Covers) C F C G A E (Story By Trevor Gordon Hall) C# G# E F# B Eb (30 minutes in London by Antoine Dufour) D A C F C E (Into your heart Antoine Dufour C G E G C D (Fatherson tuning) C G C G C D# (open C minor. My Nightmare by Ewan Dobson) C A D G B E (Neon by John Mayer) B F# A D F# B (Reality by Antoine Dufour)
You should check out an artist named, "CHRIS WHITLEY" He plays a chrome resonator through a Marshall amp with distortion but I think it sounds better without he plays in a myriad of alternate tunings
You should definitely do more of these. I was surprised that an Alter Bridge tuning didn’t get in there (especially with using the Myles Kennedy guitar 👍🏻 ). Which by the way, do you find you have to do a lot of adjustments to the guitars at all? Especially for the lower tunings?
Not a guitarist, but I have a strange mind that thinks in patterns, so I really dig the musical interval/theory stuff and I've come up with a tuning I want an ACTUAL musician to try and not only tell but SHOW me what they think of it. Anyway, here goes: D2 A2 E3 C3 G4 D4 (or really anything following that spacing). So you get a major third just like standard (only it's down instead of up) and you get a root-to-root, four-octave spread between 1 and 6 (also just like standard), but with this, you have two sets of perfect fifths instead of the mostly fourths thing. Try it, spread it, get other RU-vidrs to try it, IDK. I certainly don't have the skills or equipment to do so, but after thinking about 5ths and the 4 vs 5 vs 6 string dilemma, the string problem, and the whole "needing certain aspects of standard (like the E to E, and that major third in the "middle) to be able to cover popular/existing stuff" whatnot, I really want to hear it. Both how it sounds in general/how a musician can make it work, and to see whether or not it can do cover material, or whatever you call that aspect of playing guitar (I forgot the specific terminology).
My four guitars are in different tunings. I can cover most of the songs I wanna play. I learned a bunch of soungarden when I only had one guitar. Those tunings were all over the place. Those guys are nuts lol
When I was a teen, I discovered this weird tuning where the top 3 strings were from open E and the bottom 3 strings were from open B. I think it was something like E G# B F# B D#. I loved the way the open chord sounded, it was either very ambivalent in interpretation, or you could've tried to explain it in like three different ways depending on what you considered root. Sadly no complete song came out of that, but now I'm lowkey considering coming back to that tuning and doing something cool with it.
It's so much easier to play mayonnaise in E flat tuning lol,I just tried the original tuning and it was hard there's just a few chords that sound a little off because you don't get the minor notes 😂 sounds amazing Tyler 🤘
YOU ARE A GOD! NOW I MUST BREAK OUT MY GUITAR! OH THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS! This was my favourite album when I was a teenager. ( Siamese Dream) well until I discovered JEFF BUCKLEY 'S GRACE ALBUM. And that's still my favorite today. Desert Island Album 😮
This was cool, Tyler! I saw this guy on RU-vid (Two Year Old Bear) doing Midwest emo intros. One of the tunings he uses i DAEEAE, if I remember correctly. Sounds cool.
Chris Cornell used a TON of different open tunings. For example, "Mind Riot" was all E's. Travis Meeks from "Days Of The New" uses nothing but open B, C & G tunings.
You should listen to Mellowing and Open Passageways by All Them Witches, beautiful songs and tuning; DACGAE (also they’re a band from Nashville so now you have to)
I will think here aloud karnivool B f# G E .... the chord is it major 13 or.... ok looking further maybe better a minor 9 ... simplest root... B and F# are not much in the wheelhouse of chords per say ... doubt will remember a maj13 is an inversion of minor 9 any time too soon! Maybe since major7 is minor 9 ..Anyhoo riffs cool
I do a lot of work in C standard, because something about that range works well with playing style and my singing voice. I realize that technically IS an alternate tuning, but I've never been an open tuning kind of player for the most part. I'll put the low E string in all manner of weird pitches, but I like having the option of regular chord shapes from the A string up. I guess I'm not as versatile as Nick Drake or Jimmy Page, but it works for me.
My favourite is D minor, DADFAD, lots of interesting drones and chords. I believe robbie kroeger used it on a doors songs, 'end of the ???'? Its spooky anyways
Surprised you didn't mention David Crosby's Em11 tuning (EBDGAD). Lots of tunes fit on C Major tuning, e.g. Neil Young's Helpless, Tragically Hip's Ahead By A Century, Bruce Cockburn's Foxglove. Bron yr Aur sounds like "Brawn Ear Our."
one of my favorite tunings is D D# F# D# F# E, Toby Driver uses it in maudlin of the Well for the intro song and the four interludes on the double LP Bath/Leaving Your Body Map. he says he had experimented with dreaming his music by strumming his guitar in its open tuning right before going to bed, and letting it ring out before sleeping. it is such a strange, melancholic but beautiful sound and it just leaves me feeling stunned in a strange way when i hear it.
This is dope Yo, can someone help me out a bit? I'm lookin for my first elec, probably gonna order on sweetwater or somethin (lot a lot of good guitar stores around me) and I wanna know some budget kinda ones I'm next to BROKE.
You do know that the Smashing Pumpkins are looking for a new guitarist, right? And they posted an article saying fans can apply. You should send them your stuff. For real.
How did you get that big "ROAR" guitar sound when all the instruments get in your Mayonaise cover 🤯 ?? The sound of your guitar alone at the beginning has just a little of this "roar" caused by the chords but then BAM, please tell us the secret 🙏 Is it just the doubling guitar or is it the sound of the Bass ? Or both
Back in the day, when I was actually in bands and being a semi-useful musician (as opposed to the professional noodler I am now), there was a hardcore band that tuned all their strings to E and played nothing but barre chords. That was about 30 years ago -- I don't think they're around anymore.
I quite likeOpen D5 tuning personally & have a guitar dedicated for this -- D A D A D D (Creed 's 'My Sacrifice' & Alter Birdge's 'Open Your Eyes' use this)
I've always loved mayonnaise and the way the guitars sound, but I learned it in Eb standard. It sounded okay, but not quite right and my brain hates alt tunings. I had heard someone say it was in an alt tuning before, but didn't believe them. I hate that it's true, but it does sound amazing. Eh, what ya gonna do? Still a great song made by an awful person.
Mayonaise is one of my favourite Smashing Pumpkins songs so I had no idea that it was in a different tuning, that sounded awesome. Also two other bands that come to mine for bands that use different tunings are Soundgarden and Sonic Youth, because my god do they use some funky tunings but it’s awesome
I remember readin somewhere that Lou Reed of the Velvet Underground used that kinda tuning where it’s all one note on some of their songs - called it “ostrich tuning” or something like that lol
The fact there’s no sonic youth in an alt tunings video is a little saddening, but a good video nonetheless. Alt tunings are so much fun and force you to play differently than you would otherwise.
