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5 Best Hunting Rifle Cartridges for New Hunters 

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In this episode of the Sideburn Hunter we discuss my 5 recommendations for hunting rifle cartridges for the new big game hunter.
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1. 6.5 Creedmoor
2. 270 Winchester
3. 308 Winchester
4. 30-06 Springfield
5. 300 Winchester Magnum
Honorable Mention: 300 Winchester Short Magnum (300 WSM)
No, the names do not necessarily match the true bullet diameter. Who cares?
6.5mm = 6.72mm or .2644"
270 = .277"
308 = .308"
30-06 = .308"
300 = .308"

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@aaronvillery7953
@aaronvillery7953 4 года назад
Yes I realize that .270 is actually a .277 bullet diameter. That's what I had in my notes, but I didn't catch my error. Thanks
@nmende00
@nmende00 4 года назад
The .270 is derived from necked down .30-03 and the .30-06 is derived from a shortened .30-03.
@VitoBb1978
@VitoBb1978 4 года назад
@@nmende00 The 30-06 came from the 8x57JS, the US took 8x57 JS case increased the neck, then neck it down from .323-.308. That is why the 30-06 & the 8x57 JS have the same case head size.
@nmende00
@nmende00 4 года назад
@@VitoBb1978 There was an interim design called the .03-03 which had a 65mm long case and evolved to become the 30-06 and 270 win.
@milktruck9345
@milktruck9345 3 года назад
I like all of them but one the 6.5. I would replace with the faster and flatter shooting 25.06.
@DeanMk1
@DeanMk1 3 года назад
@@VitoBb1978 "The 30-06 came from the 8x57JS" Actually Vito, it's based on the 7x57. The military was so impressed with its performance during the Spanish-American war, that they started a program to develop a cartridge to replace the .30-40 then in service. Truth be told, the .30-40 is an amazing round and all they had to do was ditch the weak Krag rifles and standardize the '95 Winchester, which could handle the higher pressure version that the Army used for a short time.
@laurentlassen7812
@laurentlassen7812 4 года назад
Started more than 30 years ago with 30-06 and never looked back! The versatility in this calibre is just amazing. From small game to big antelope, including Eland!
@thesideburnhunter4481
@thesideburnhunter4481 4 года назад
Exactly
@tristadavid
@tristadavid 3 года назад
I agree. There are so many pros and very few cons. Especially if you reload.
@BadAssBassFishermen
@BadAssBassFishermen 2 года назад
I wouldn't say small game, I shot a squirrel with a 180 grain ballistic tip and it kind of exploded 😂😂
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 2 года назад
@@BadAssBassFishermen LOL did you expected otherwise ?
@christopherpearson3511
@christopherpearson3511 Год назад
You can easily take most everything across the globe with that round. Especially with the diversity of the bullets today that are sent downrange. The only thing that I would use bigger calibers for are the big and/or dangerous game. IE... Cape Buffalo, Elephant(the big five). And, if it was the very large aggressive bears. That's only because you don't want something running around angry after getting shot. That could be bad for your health...lol
@fcomarr8656
@fcomarr8656 3 года назад
I live in Alaska and use nothing but a .308 for hunting I use it yearly for Moose and works great. Good bullet selection is key. I like the 168gr Trphy Grade and Balistic tip. I have even taken Grizzlies with 180gr. Best all around caliber easy and cheap to find good ammo for it. Great for beginners and experienced hunters. Don't forget accuracy in shot placement is also important 👌 😉
@Ben-ry1py
@Ben-ry1py Год назад
I just ordered my first real hunting rifle in 308 cause it can do everything in north America, cost less to shoot, and has so many options.
@GeneralGiffel
@GeneralGiffel Год назад
How does the .308 go against Grizzly bears or kodiak bears. Can you use the .308 for deer to the biggest bear?
@scrotuspotus6632
@scrotuspotus6632 Год назад
@@GeneralGiffel 308 is underpowered for grizzly it is not recommended but that is JUST short of hurting a grizzly effectively so a 30-06 could be closer but i'd suggest starting at 300 win mag or higher if you want something for all north american game including grizzly there are small enough bullets for deer and big enough bullets for grizzly and bison the only downside is barrel life really, though to be fair a 308 WILL kill a grizzly it's just shot placement and bullet type i would be highly concerned about a close range encounter with a brown or grizzly bear it will not go down in one shot if you can't hit the head or sever the spine.
@REDNECKROOTS
@REDNECKROOTS 11 месяцев назад
Try federal terminal accent. Best bullet I've used. I've tried em all. These terminal accent are the best performance
@a3300000
@a3300000 6 месяцев назад
💯
@oakenloreknives6889
@oakenloreknives6889 4 года назад
I’ve had most of the magnums and all of these except 6.5. I just shoot 243 and 308 now as it really doesn’t matter, it’s more about shot placement. Great video 👍
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
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@Bear22250
@Bear22250 2 года назад
Shot placement so true, nowadays I use a 204 most would say way to small. Only if you can’t continuously hit a nickel at 100 yards, Then you better use something more like a 30-06, I don’t like wasting meat so only neck or head shots, with my 204 out to 150 yards
@tS-sn7jt
@tS-sn7jt Год назад
It’s all about shot placement
@user-rk4zm3nb5f
@user-rk4zm3nb5f 3 года назад
Came across a 6.5 Swedish Rem 700 about 20 years ago. Already had a '96 Mauser in same chambering. Handloading anywhere between 100-160 grain loads it is very versatile. Accurate, flat shooting, low recoil. Pretty much retired the '06.
@bryonslatten3147
@bryonslatten3147 4 года назад
Other hunters have said, "There is no replacement for shot placement."
@russellkeeling9712
@russellkeeling9712 4 года назад
Yes, I was taught to never take a shot unless I could tell someone just where I would hit the animal before I shot.
@tuckerschwab5331
@tuckerschwab5331 3 года назад
Yes but not every shot will be perfect, you will mess up. Thats why people dont use 22s for deer. I do agree that shot placement is very important though but u will mess up at some point
@oldfatbastard1470
@oldfatbastard1470 3 года назад
Accuracy is everything. Hit the nail right on the head.
@ageckomiller
@ageckomiller 3 года назад
@@tuckerschwab5331 I use 22 for whitetail. Well, 5.56 in my AR. Many I know do. But we are all very proficient in accuracy.
@tuckerschwab5331
@tuckerschwab5331 3 года назад
@@ageckomiller yes but, you cant tell me that after more than 10 years of hunting that you have never made a bad shot.
@AmericanWorker1127
@AmericanWorker1127 4 года назад
For a new hunter, take off the winmag, add in the .243 or 25-06
@Paul-wq4qb
@Paul-wq4qb 4 года назад
I agree man, just got to play with a friends 25-06 awhile back and it's an awesome round. To bad I dont reload because that round has potential
@pensnut08
@pensnut08 4 года назад
Take of the 243 for a new hunter as well for big game.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 4 года назад
Indeed. I’d even say 30-06 at full strength is overkill for most lower 48 hunting and certainly not “beginner” caliber.
@M4A3
@M4A3 4 года назад
I've had experienced shooters complain about my .300 Win Mags hurting. Who in da fuq would give it to a beginner?
@Rippinsmallies
@Rippinsmallies 4 года назад
To light bro. 100 grn.
@masterkenobi4951
@masterkenobi4951 3 года назад
It’s .308 for me, but you can never go wrong with the 30-06.
@hunterjacobs2178
@hunterjacobs2178 3 года назад
Thank you master kenobi
@silencedogood5766
@silencedogood5766 3 года назад
Well you can but would haveto really work at it ! ;)
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 3 года назад
Yup, and it is quite common. Availability of ammo is a huge factor.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 3 года назад
The .30-'06 is never a mistake.
@SuAmigoElilegal
@SuAmigoElilegal 3 года назад
Is 308 FMJ better or hollow
@AreaShooter
@AreaShooter 4 года назад
Dear God thank you for being there a 30-06 Springfield
@rcrtvtv7084
@rcrtvtv7084 4 года назад
AreaShooter, AMEN!!!!!
@vegasspaceprogram6623
@vegasspaceprogram6623 3 года назад
I'd want something less heavy. I don't like bullet drop, 270
@rogerironhide4220
@rogerironhide4220 2 года назад
You can say that again
@donswearingen9805
@donswearingen9805 4 года назад
I have a 30-06 Savage Model 111 I bought in 1975. It has never let me down.
@fatbowe
@fatbowe 2 года назад
As a kid growing up In Texas my uncle taught me to hunt deer...He used a 300 Savage...it was 👍 great and a Lot of Fun...
@edysinsimon8646
@edysinsimon8646 3 года назад
I myself have noticed the incredible advancements in cartridge tech in general. While I maintain the position of shooting the same rifle for all big game in general, I have been shooting the .270 for several decades nowand have noticed just how good the modern bullets/cartridges are at these days! For my particulars...The .270 is just about perfect for most game I chase these days.
@fLowMage21
@fLowMage21 Год назад
Is it reliable for something bigger?
@HALWG51
@HALWG51 3 года назад
7mm-08 is my choice for the new or experienced hunter. Actually it's one of the better deer cartridges.
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
Buy your gun and ammunition online 🇺🇸🇺🇸 ChrisParkerfirearms.com Got certified FFL and ship to all states.. ammunition available are: 9mm, 5.56, 223, 45acp, 65creedmor, 22lr, 380,and more .. Dm us if interested and purchase up your ammo online
@WPD.razor41
@WPD.razor41 3 года назад
7mm rem mag is easier on the shoulder and less expensive than the .300 win mag, which is in no way a cartridge for beginners. how about 7mm-08, 260 rem, 280 rem, and 25-06.
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 2 года назад
.340 Weatherby.... in a lightweight rifle ....with no muzzle brake! :)
@jimsmith8324
@jimsmith8324 Год назад
I totally agree. Not many people can handle a 300 win mag, the recoil is simply too much. The 7MM is way better than the 30-06 for distance shooting and just a little heavier.
@stevendonnalammar4422
@stevendonnalammar4422 Год назад
Good luck finding most of those.
@ronniegillaspy
@ronniegillaspy Год назад
I have shot the same 7mm mag for over 30 years. Still my go to gun.
@furyianman5157
@furyianman5157 Год назад
@@stevendonnalammar4422 reloading has never been an issue for me.
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle 3 года назад
You are adorned with glorious sideburns Mr. hunter man.
@michaelshuey1614
@michaelshuey1614 3 года назад
Although a bit shy on the details, this was a good presentation for new hunters. Well done.
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 3 года назад
I’m a new hunter. But hanging around experienced hunters I’m a fan of 30 caliber bullets so I’m all in for a 308.
@whiteSharkRSV
@whiteSharkRSV Год назад
30 cal is .308
@georgesalmas4582
@georgesalmas4582 4 года назад
Very good unbiased explanation of every round. I like .308 win - 7.62 NATO. If a newcomer wants to research shooting rounds, your piece is a very good starting point.
@wes326
@wes326 2 года назад
.308 #1 based on variety and cost of cartridges. Everything from milspec to match.
@reginaldgreenii490
@reginaldgreenii490 3 года назад
1. .260 especially if they want to continue using an AR platform 2. 7mm-08 again can be found in AR platforms if that is what you like 3. .308 again also can be found in AR platforms 4. 6.5 creedmoor 5. .280 more punch than the .270 and just as flat shooting with the same recoil based off the .30-06 basically a 7mm non magnum Honorable Mention - .30-06, .270 and .257 Roberts...magnums are good and can cover anything in Northern America but recoil come with them
@skullandcrossbones65
@skullandcrossbones65 3 года назад
G'day, The 308, 30-06,and 300 Win Mag, Should be classed close to each other since they generally shoot the same projectile. Each step is just a bit more speed
@nospam3409
@nospam3409 3 года назад
Realistically, ALL of those are capable of taking moose at 300 yds so long as you choose a projectile that's capable of doing the job. In the world of high power rifles, 300 yards is relatively close range. If the rifle is capable of doing the job at 100 yds, its also capable at 300 yds. Beyond 300 yds velocity is starting to drop quickly, and so does the trajectory. For 300 yds and under, the 300 win mag has no advantage over the 308 unless you consider more recoil to be an advantage. In fact, I would strongly recommend against the 300 win mag for someone who hasn't learned to deal with heavy recoil.
@evanburdick8503
@evanburdick8503 Год назад
That's why he said "For beginner" hunters. If you pick up a 300 WIN MAG, pretty much any factory cartridge is ready to bag moose. Avid hunters can handload even 243 to take moose. Ethically
@tS-sn7jt
@tS-sn7jt Год назад
Your write very important point about bullet choice….
@nospam3409
@nospam3409 Год назад
@@evanburdick8503 Actually, no. A beginner can't normally hit an animal at 300 yds period. Most beginners have a hard time making an acceptable shot on live game at 100 yds. Put a 300 win mag in their hands to start off with and they will quickly develop a flinch so bad that they'll never be able to make a shot past 75 yds or so. 308 isn't a pip squeak in the recoil department, so this is still an issue, but not nearly as bad as with the 300 win mag.
@evanburdick8503
@evanburdick8503 Год назад
@@nospam3409 With a solid piece of glass (Anywhere between 12-20 power), you have to try to miss with a 300WM at 300yrds. The drop is only like 5". For hunting big game, 180gr is go to, so unless its super windy out in the fields, you dont usually have to worry about windage either. Mind you, I'm referring to big game hunting at longer range. So usually prone with a rifle rest. Shooting offhand is a talent I'd only let intermediate and advanced hunters try at 300yrds
@nospam3409
@nospam3409 Год назад
@@evanburdick8503 That's not really my point. I've been rather successful at NRA Highpower, Collegiate small bore, 3D Archery, and some local bowling pin matches. I've taken plenty of prairie dog pups at 150 to 200 yds from a standing position, and 400 yds is a gimme shot from prone. I run a 6.5 Grendel upper for deer and it wears a 4.5-27x50 optic with a FFP Christmas tree reticle. My farthest kill so far with it is a prairiedog at 600 yds. I'm pretty confident that know what it takes to hit game animals at 300 yds. The issue isn't the rifle, cartridge, or the glass. The issue is the clown behind the trigger. Some people, like you and I, are born with an inherent level of focus, perception to detail, and high level of individual muscle control and we learn to shoot extremely well extremely quickly. That's not the case for the vast majority of people, hunters or not. For most people, if you start them off with anything that generates an appreciable amount of recoil (ie more than a 223 bolt gun), they will develop a flinch that takes a significant a.out of dedicated and structured training to overcome. A 300 win mag certainly falls in that category. Heck, so does the 308 for that matter. Unfortunately, regardless of caliber, cartridge, rifle, or glass, most beginners struggle to make good hits at 100 yds. Once someone has learned decent trigger control, how to manage a little recoil, and how to shoot from a few different field positions, then I'd say your assessment of the 300 is spot on. 👌
@stevemihacevich2195
@stevemihacevich2195 4 года назад
All in all I will take the 30 06
@russellkeeling9712
@russellkeeling9712 4 года назад
A very good selection.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 года назад
.30-'06 is unmatched for versatility as a rifle cartridge, especially to the handloader.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 года назад
@brian bowes You can take a single pellet of no. 0 buckshot sized to. 309 and seat it over 2.5 grains of bullseye with a kapock filler for squirrels and rabbits, and although not legal the 240 grain Woodleigh, driven at 2300 fps at the muzzle will cleanly take elephants with head shots.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 года назад
@brian bowes It doesn't take much. Just enough to sort of make a wad to keep the powder close to the flash hole. You do have to be careful not to knock the ammo around and to keep it upright so you don't dislodge it.
@greymooose1000
@greymooose1000 4 года назад
@brian bowes Can't disagree with anything you're saying, but the only reason I'd buy a 30-06 is if I could only have one rifle. Otherwise, there is a better round for pretty much everything in North America.
@PUcmw11
@PUcmw11 3 года назад
Well this is just a fantastic video! I JUST ran these numbers TODAY with Hornady's ballistic charts from 2019 and came to nearly an identical conclusion. In terms of cartridges that scale from deer to moose I had found: Light - .308 (honorable mention to 6.5PRC which has GOOD potential) Medium - .270 or .30-06 (both perfect lower 48 cartridges) Short Mag - .300rcm or .300wsm with a good brake (doesn't scale down to deer well...ft-lbs too high on the smallest grain ammo) Std Mag - 7mm rem mag or .300 win mag with a good brake (enough for big bear but is still a nasty drop for white tail sized game) Amazing how relevant the .30-06 and .270 are today for hunting EVERYTHING and even reaching 1000m shooting with ease. Everything else is either too costly, too hard to find, kicks too much, too weak, or crap barrel life. Great video, subscribed!
@CircusYT
@CircusYT 3 года назад
not sure how I ended up here tbh but god damn this is relaxing
@megastick9324
@megastick9324 2 года назад
30-30 is, and has always been, a great deer cartridge and a modest recoil makes it a great beginner cartridge too. I don’t understand how the 300mag made a beginner list, but the 30-30, 243, 25-06 , 7mm 08…so many were left out. If you’re introducing a kid or your wife to hunting, handing them a 06 or 300mag is not the way to do it, in my opinion. 270 and down I would say would be much better.
@dragoninwinter
@dragoninwinter 2 года назад
Agreed. Some hunters just want to hunt in the backyard and not collect every gun on earth.
@curlyyoder
@curlyyoder 2 года назад
25-06 is almost forgotten today...prairie dogs to yes...elk! Not fur friendly. Will make a canoe out of a fur bearing predator. Recoil tolerable. Powder pig it's loud. Legal for elk. In most states. Mine has killed numerous elk. With an 87 gr. PSP. It's accurate. A 220 Swift humanely kills big game animals on account of it's accuracy. But not legal in some states. The Swift and the 25 as well as the 7 mm Rem. Mag have been my go to's...the 7 is tolerable with 145 gr. Speer PSP...and it too is...bad ass!
@megastick9324
@megastick9324 2 года назад
@@curlyyoder I had a teacher a lifetime ago who had a chance to hunt moose in Alaska. His choice of rifle? 25-06. One shot to the neck and he bagged his moose. Some would question or argue the choice and the shot placement, but the results speak for themselves. He knew his rifle and his capabilities, something that far outweighs caliber.
@JamesgnuoY1
@JamesgnuoY1 Год назад
I think the 30.06, the .270 and the .308 are the cartridges that are most likely to be inherited since they have been around a long time. I could totally see the 30-30 on this list as well.
@megastick9324
@megastick9324 Год назад
@@JamesgnuoY1 and 243…
@fedup3582
@fedup3582 2 года назад
Good video. Honest, practical, offering options for most all levels of hunting. Your choices were very good but a few others could be included like the 243 and 7mm-08.
@cgrstng
@cgrstng Год назад
I’m surprised the .243 wasn’t in this.
@davidhagerman7165
@davidhagerman7165 4 года назад
I have a 30-06 that was a world war 1 bolt action rifle. The barrel stamped manufacturing year is 1901. Base on the manufacturing date of 1901 the 30-06 round must have came out before 1901 to be a service rifle. I sitll use the 1901, 30-06 rifle for hunting it is very accurate. At 100 yards it will shoot through the same first bullet hole all day long. When iIpratice with it I would find empty rifle shells and set the in line at 100 yards left to right and shoot them off the rail they were sitting on. Before I move from Colorado, my last hunt with my dad, I took a mule deer at 450 yards using a standard 4 power scope. When purchasing ammunition for mule deer hunting do not use the spear point, if the round does not hit a bone it will pass straight through. Find a bullet that has more lead exposed like a 30-30 round. Also a good deer rifle is the 30-30 Winchester. This is the only rifle my dad used and they work very well for Mule deer. My grandfather used the 30-06, in1954 he took a record elk and later a record Grizzly bear {when they were legal to hunt} with his 30-06. He was featured in the Gazzett Telagraph news paper in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
@bjoernhallandsen5287
@bjoernhallandsen5287 4 года назад
Oh nice, an other caliber discussion! 😁 So, here I am (sorted by size). 😎 1: .243 Win. 2: .25-06 Rem. 3: .6,5 × 55 SE // .260 Rem. // .6.5 Creedmore (use the same bullets) 4: .270 Win. 5: .7mm-08 // .7 × 57 mm // .7 × 64 mm (use the same bullets) 6: .308 Win. And if Bud Spencer is the new hunter, than 7: a .30-06 Sprg. in his left and 8: a .458 Win. Mag. in his right hand. 😁 My personal recommendation for new hunters would be hand loaded (to get the best out of it) cartridges in .7mm-08 with a shorter (22" or 24") and the .7 × 64 mm for a longer (26") barrel. But basically, the choice of the appropriate caliber depends on several factors: - where do I live and which calibres are prohibited or allowed there - which game do I want to hunt - where do I want to hunt (forest, open terrain, mountains...) - which ammunition is regionally available - what is my stature and physique and how do I cope with the weight and recoil of the rifle or its caliber and many other things - and therefore also could be recommended a .30-06 Sprg. or even bigger for a new hunter if it is personally suitable.
@thesideburnhunter4481
@thesideburnhunter4481 4 года назад
Several factors indeed. Stature does matter.
@petebentley3156
@petebentley3156 4 года назад
Love my browning bar 25/06 now,and have killed 7 nice elk with it to now.using 100 grain soft point ammo!!!!!
@patrickkerner1471
@patrickkerner1471 3 года назад
243 is all thats needed for dear.
@wayneiselin260
@wayneiselin260 3 года назад
Perfect. Thanks mate just what I needed
@lanceroberthough1275
@lanceroberthough1275 2 года назад
You know this is a really good video. Just enough of the right information. Great job
@jc26527
@jc26527 3 года назад
my go to deer gun is the 7mm-08, second is the 243, and both are great for coyotes too.
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
Buy your gun and ammunition online 🇺🇸🇺🇸 ChrisParkerfirearms.com Got certified FFL and ship to all states.. ammunition available are: 9mm, 5.56, 223, 45acp, 65creedmor, 22lr, 380,and more .. Dm us if interested and purchase up your ammo online
@lane8376
@lane8376 3 года назад
I inherited a 30-06 and a 12 ga. from my grandfather after he passed away. He was a veteran. I moved away from my family and left the firearms with them. One day my family informed me that they were stolen. It broke my heart because it had sentimental value. I know it’s just a material object but I wanted to pass it on to my kids. 😢
@Gingerjoe27
@Gingerjoe27 3 года назад
Did you write down serial numbers?
@lane8376
@lane8376 3 года назад
@@Gingerjoe27 unfortunately I did not. I never thought I needed to. I never thought they would have been stolen. My situation is a live and learn lesson I guess. 😞
@thrivealist9458
@thrivealist9458 2 года назад
Nice video. Something to add: some of those bigger calibers can kick like hell in some rifles. I definitely wouldn’t recommend a 300 win mag on most platforms. On a good heavy rifle absolutely. Again great video man. Smooth and easy on the ears. Enjoyed it a lot.
@BikerDash
@BikerDash 2 года назад
Of all those, my personal favorite is the .308 Winchester. It's good out to 300 yards, but the recoil is not as bad as the .300 Winchester Mag can be. Ammo cost/availability was another big factor in the .308 being one of my favorites. I've been able in the past (pre-shortage days) to find mil surplus 7.62x51 NATO stuff for really cheap, allowing for more range time just to keep the basic skills up.
@Ben-ry1py
@Ben-ry1py Год назад
I chose 308 for my first real hunting rifle. It can do everything I would ever want to do and cost a lot less to shoot than almost any centerfire rifle. I'm excited about getting into hand loading to have several rounds for different game and terrain. Cheers
@m0kfe
@m0kfe 4 года назад
Big-7 is awesome, especially if you load your own ammo. 160-grain for mule deer, elk, moose and bear.
@jw3946
@jw3946 2 года назад
I agree with your recommendations. Appreciate you including the 300 WSM. Should have included the 270 WSM.
@wwaytobe
@wwaytobe 3 года назад
Good clip! I'm not a new shooter or hunter. I grab my 30-06 and 308 all day every day for anything hog / white tail and up! Note, I have never been out for Elk or Moose. I would add 243, 22-250, (30-30 and 7.62x39 for sub 200 yards) and game up to white tail.
@ricksmith7232
@ricksmith7232 11 месяцев назад
Great video, all good caliber choices for anyone really. Your voice is very relaxing to listen to
@jharmon1071
@jharmon1071 2 года назад
My favorite deer or elk , especially brush gun and at the ready is Winchester 30-30 model 1894 ..that lever action compact classic is such a great gun .
@casonfatheree1425
@casonfatheree1425 4 года назад
I would add 25-06 because it’s light kicking but powerful and comparable to the 6.5 and 270
@blackbirdpie217
@blackbirdpie217 3 года назад
I selected a .308 rifle for a few reasons. 1. readily available in factory loads of every type you can imagine including lead free for Ca. hunting to cheap milsurp (7.62x51). 2. short action means shorter gun, and shorter motion for bolt or lever (BLR). Dies, brass and bullets super easy to get for reloading. 4. Same bullets as another gun I have in 30 caliber. 5. Respectable for any North American game.
@victorc4869
@victorc4869 3 года назад
Awesome video and great explanation bro, keep it up.
@jcdecarlo7369
@jcdecarlo7369 3 года назад
Love the video and the mustache I think the stach its coming back i see more and more hunters with them.
@kirkthorpe5392
@kirkthorpe5392 3 года назад
Thanks for being realistic about the game limits for 6.5CR, so many people exaggerate its effectiveness in large game, which means a lot of injured animals out there.
@FarmerTed
@FarmerTed 4 года назад
Although a dead caliber, all in this family have first deer hunt with 300savage. Little recoil for young hunters gives great confidence!
@garnetclews1878
@garnetclews1878 3 года назад
I have 2 of the .300 Savages... inherited them both... and never shoot them..... only because I started with a .308 essentially the same cartridge.... I run my surplus .308 brass through my .300 Savage dies and trim to make .300 Savage ammo. I also use the surplus .308 and neck down for my .243 All in all I would agree with this video.... as with a number of the comments.... the .300 wing may be a bit much for new shooters.... however both my son and his friend (new hunters) have used it.... and liked it.
@dominicbenecasa7893
@dominicbenecasa7893 Год назад
I bought a 270 over 20 years ago. It was recommended to me by three different gun shops in the western South Dakota/ eastern Wyoming area. It was the answer to the “I can only afford one gun for the lower 48 what caliber do I get question.” I still think it was the perfect buy.
@catjackoff-road855
@catjackoff-road855 4 года назад
A lot of people in my area use a 308, 30-06 and 270 wsm are my hunting rifles
@catjackoff-road855
@catjackoff-road855 4 года назад
brian bowes yea if you shoot alot, i may fire 5 shots a year or less
@dennydavis2914
@dennydavis2914 3 года назад
For a "new" hunter you cannot beat a 243 or 7-08
@blaynemacpherson8519
@blaynemacpherson8519 3 года назад
243 only good for Antelope and smaller game. 7mm 08 great round.
@dennydavis2914
@dennydavis2914 3 года назад
@@blaynemacpherson8519 243 will take down anything up to mule deer with no problem
@blaynemacpherson8519
@blaynemacpherson8519 3 года назад
Denny Davis Maybe in the lower 48. Nothing but known as a coyote killer up here.
@edwilliams8789
@edwilliams8789 3 года назад
243 is the perfect deer rifle out to 200 yards. If you can't kill with a 243 you shouldn't be deer hunting.
@blaynemacpherson8519
@blaynemacpherson8519 3 года назад
Ed Williams If one are shooting the tiny deer in Texas or New Mexico or Arizona and the deer weight in at 200 on the hoof. Yes the 243 is a good caliber BUT for an overall perfect deer gun far far far from it. When deer are weighting at 350-500 lbs. there are much more effective rounds. At those sizes they absorb the bullet when shot in the boiler room and walk/run away with no blood trail sometimes most times where I’m from they are not seen against. So saying that where I’m from the 243 is not a recommended deer caliber. I will never recommend the 243 as a deer caliber. There are so many more better rounds for youth ladies and first time hunters then the 243.
@basshuntet607
@basshuntet607 4 года назад
Loved it brother! Just subbed and am looking forward to more videos from you.
@CircusSized13
@CircusSized13 3 года назад
I’m really happy to see that Mario retired to the country side and spends his time doing some shooting and hunting.
@ericholbrook1733
@ericholbrook1733 2 года назад
You present a good, logical point of view. Thank you. I've hunted on 3 continents over 40 years. I'm not a professional, don't work for any gun or ammunition manufacturer. As far as center fire rifles for North America, I have three, depending on where in North America. For the thick swamps of the southeast, where ranges are from 25 to 100 yards, the .35 Rem. For everywhere else except for elk, moose and the big bears west of the Rocky Mountains, a 25-06. For west of the Rocky Mountains and the elk, moose and big bears there, the .300 WinMag. Just my opinion.
@davidlotti5407
@davidlotti5407 4 года назад
The best hunting cartridge is one that you can shoot accurately, comfortably, that you have confidence in an that can cleanly an efficiently kill the game you are hunting
@michaelshapiro1543
@michaelshapiro1543 4 года назад
HURRAH!
@dannyewoldt4648
@dannyewoldt4648 4 года назад
270 wsm used one for years fantastic caliber I do handload ammo can be a little scarse
@aimtrue4540
@aimtrue4540 2 года назад
Started with my pops sporterized mauser 98 in 30-06 and an old Leopold scope. Still my favorite gun.
@jamiehurtt8621
@jamiehurtt8621 4 года назад
30 06 is all you need been knocking em dead for over 100 yrs most proven round and huge bullet weight selection
@markwheeler202
@markwheeler202 4 года назад
25-06 before 6.5 Creedmore. I bought my .270 in 1974, based on all the Outdoor Life articles I read by Jack O'Connor, and assuming that I might graduate from deer to elk some day. That never happened, alas. If I knew I wouldn't hunt anything larger than deer, I'd go with 25-06.
@russellkeeling9712
@russellkeeling9712 4 года назад
If you were ever able to hunt your elk you would be very happy with your .270.
@kathystoneham334
@kathystoneham334 3 года назад
Russell Keeling j
@CPUDOCTHE1
@CPUDOCTHE1 4 года назад
I would add the .243 Win. It is low priced like the .308 and .30-06, may be more easy to find ammo, and is low recoil for new/younger shooters. My oldest son shot his first coyote a 9 years old and first deer the following year with a .243 Win.
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
Do you hand load ? If so try loading up Barnes tsx great bullet , I have a 24 inch barreled 243 with 85 grain tsx load worked up doing 3150 at the muzzle ( am over max charge but we worked it up slowly and no pressure signs plus still getting 6 loadings out of hornady brass) taken white tail and bigger mule deer, 115 yards on a 130 pound white tail bullet went clean through In between the ribs entrance and exit wound top qaurter inch of the heart and both lungs bullet turned lungs and heart to consistency of unset jello and just about seperated the lungs at impact, deer was dead befor it hit the ground
@CPUDOCTHE1
@CPUDOCTHE1 4 года назад
@@dakkadakka9189 Yes, we reload. We tend toward Nosler bullets and have good luck with them. We use the 95 gr Ballistic tip for deer and the 55 gr Ballistic tip for everything else. We shoot them out of a Rem 788 and a DPMS LR-243.
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
@@CPUDOCTHE1 nice I have my tsx for hunting and use 87 vmax for just shooting as the Barnes are twice the price , luckily for me velocity are really close and my tsx hits just a half inch higher then my vmax at 100 yards with it zeroed for the vmax so I don't have to change zero, how's the dpms treated ya ?
@josearellano5778
@josearellano5778 2 года назад
Awesome video boss. I agree with you 100%. But I also like to throw in the 7.5×55 Swiss & the 7mm-08 & 7mm rem mag
@bucksmith9035
@bucksmith9035 4 года назад
i love my 416 rem mag great all around calibre anything from gophers to engine blocks And pissed off charging moose up here in saskatchewan canada
@originalamerican9396
@originalamerican9396 3 года назад
Don't forget the humble 6.5x55 Swede. It's an old cartridge but is still used today and is the father of the Creedmoor. It cost less than 308, shoots flat, and penetrates deep. Commonly used to take elk.
@rudolphferdinand3634
@rudolphferdinand3634 4 года назад
I am really glad you included in the line-up 300 WSM, it is a superior round to the 30-06 when both are shooting the same bullet weight, but the 30-06 has a deep place in my heart [7 rifles chambered].
@Liikavarvas2
@Liikavarvas2 Год назад
One of the most popular moose rounds in Finland is the .308. Definitely pulls its weight up in that class also. It's a fantastic allrounder for any hunter out there.
@BryanLeeFields99
@BryanLeeFields99 3 года назад
Good educational video. I'd add for the more experienced hunter that wants to take big game look at the 300 Weatherby Magnum. Shoots flat and has a muzzle velocity of over 3100 fps. Commercial loads can be found for about $40 and they usually are very reloadable for the future. They can later be necked down for the 6.5 300 if you want to go lighter for competition shooting. Enjoyed your video.
@christinamoneyhan5688
@christinamoneyhan5688 Год назад
I’d like to know where you found 300 Wby for $40 . Last time I purchased them got anywhere near that was back in 1996. Now days you are looking at $60 plus’s depending on the bullet used. Even at $30/ box of 20 I started to reload them just as I did all my other calibers.
@andrewkandelAK
@andrewkandelAK 4 года назад
All time fav is the 7mm mag best round in my books tons of power and least amount of drop at long distances
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 4 года назад
Not to mention far more "shootable" than the .300
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
@@mikeford963 7mm mag can get pretty stout especially if your shooting prone with a practical weight hunting rifle but definitely easier then 300
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 4 года назад
@@dakkadakka9189 I have an older Ruger M77. With hand loads, it's about the same as a 30-06
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
@@mikeford963 in 7 mag? Nice what are you running for bullets ?
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 4 года назад
@@dakkadakka9189 175grn ELD-x. With 58.5/58.6grns of IMR Enduron 4955.
@navelfan
@navelfan 3 года назад
The .270 Win is my favorite round!
@cliffbonds1472
@cliffbonds1472 8 месяцев назад
ONE MILLION VIEWS!?!? Your kicking butt man, keep up the great content and you will see alot more! 🎉
@Chase_H
@Chase_H Год назад
I shoot a 30-06 and a 6.5 creedmoor. Both of them are tack drivers and deer slayers. I only use the Hornanday Interlock bullet in them. The 30-06 is my favorite but I like the 6.5 creedmoor too especially for longer shots. It's a little bit like going fishing with a micro fishing rod, its fun to tag those deer who are a couple hundred yards away with it
@edwarddeitch8886
@edwarddeitch8886 3 года назад
Up to a certain point it doesn't matter what cartridge you use. Bullet placement is the key to everything.
@91icebox
@91icebox 4 года назад
The 7mm Rem Mag is a good all around round. It give a good kinectic energy and good range. The advantage over the 300 win mag would be "less recoil".
@nmende00
@nmende00 4 года назад
Less recoil and slightly flatter trajectory.
@kurtwpg
@kurtwpg 3 года назад
Which should be a huge consideration on a list like this. 7 Mag is still too much IMO, good for someone's 2nd or 3rd centerfire.
@tombeyer375
@tombeyer375 2 года назад
7mm Rem Mag with 150 gr bullet (optimum weight for the caliber) will reach out and get the job done well. Load it with the Nosler Ballistic Tip and you won't be disappointed!
@lkbaction-recreationalcomp3510
@lkbaction-recreationalcomp3510 4 года назад
Great info for newbies👍 Starting my big game collection🤗
@RetrieverTrainingAlone
@RetrieverTrainingAlone 3 года назад
I live in Alaska and for the past 30 years have used a 1976 Remington 700 in .270 Winchester for Sitka blacktail deer, Dall sheep, Caribou, Black Bear. I hand load 130 gr Barnes TTSX with IMR 4350. A box of 50 bullets cost me $30 and I shoot at least twice a week all summer long. Hunting season starts Aug 10 for Dall sheep and Caribou and we finish up in November on Sitka blacktails. One disadvantage of the .270 is there is not a wide range of bullet weights...~150-160 gr max, while 30 06 max 220gr, 308 max 190gr.
@stevenbodum3405
@stevenbodum3405 3 года назад
308, 7mm08, 7x57 thats the sweet spot, easy to shoot, low recoil and enough power to shot most of the game from fox to moose.
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
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@Colby-rd3pe
@Colby-rd3pe 4 года назад
The .270 is by far the best hunting cartridge for American game. I’ve hunted with my Remington 700 and killed many deer with it, just as my dad and grandpa did with the same gun. Great round, very flat shooting, and very powerful
@jimtruscott5670
@jimtruscott5670 4 года назад
Colby774 Wrong . 7mm Rem Mag and 7mm Wby Mag are the best.
@mattjubie
@mattjubie 3 года назад
Jim Truscott screw you and the metric system
@kingfisher302
@kingfisher302 3 года назад
I to carry rem .270 hard to do anything better
@user-cj3rr1gd2j
@user-cj3rr1gd2j 3 года назад
I like 30_06 for haunting and short to medium range shooting,greatful
@pchsledsllc2210
@pchsledsllc2210 3 года назад
Thanks for putting this together! I think I’m going to go with the 30 06 for my first hunting rifle.
@VegasGuy1975
@VegasGuy1975 3 года назад
PCH SLEDS LLC can’t go wrong with the 30.06. It’s certainly got a wide variety of available loads. Everything from light weight with light powder loads for smaller game, all the way up to 220 grain for large game like elk, moose, and grizzly bears. Great article by Chuck Hawks here. www.chuckhawks.com/200-220_30-06_loads.html
@davidp1922
@davidp1922 3 года назад
300 yds I’m taking .308. Over 300 I’m taking my Remington 700 chambered in .270. If I can only pick one all around probably take the 30-06
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
Buy your gun and ammunition online 🇺🇸🇺🇸 ChrisParkerfirearms.com Got certified FFL and ship to all states.. ammunition available are: 9mm, 5.56, 223, 45acp, 65creedmor, 22lr, 380,and more .. Dm us if interested and purchase up your ammo online
@whitespacemarines4308
@whitespacemarines4308 4 года назад
They are ALL great rounds. I DO believe the 25-06 is left out in the cold. It is a great round a pairs nicely with the 30-06. I do not own a 7mm-08 or a .243, but love the numbers and the stories. The 22-250 cannot be ignored for it's extreme velocity and penetration. I LOVE the 270 and 7mm Rem Mag. The .308 is the least expensive (For me) and all over the place. Can't swing a dead cat without hitting a box! The 6.5 is the new kid and has a great following. 300 Win Mag is VERY Nice! But to be honest, If I HAD to pick one,...It would be the most versatile,...The 30-06.
@patrickslevin6424
@patrickslevin6424 4 года назад
30-06
@dennydavis2914
@dennydavis2914 Год назад
I have a 243 and it has never let me down, I'm hoping to try a 7mm-08 this coming season. I usually hunt where I won't be making more than a 150 yard shot so I expect the 7mm-08 to knock them out of their socks.
@sergiolazzaro7970
@sergiolazzaro7970 Год назад
The same thing happens to me as I live in a shitty country... it's called Argentina... 308 brass is scarce, expensive, and even of poor quality. I have obtained from cheap and even free l brass of 270 and 06/30. I no longer have magnums because I can't afford them, but if today I would have to suggest 3 rifles, it would be 223 (to use it unnoticed with a 221 fireball, 243 and 270 load. However, I have a specialized 22/270 rifle that is taking away the use of my 270 which has been stored in my gun rack.
@nikolaiaunan1969
@nikolaiaunan1969 3 года назад
Just got my first rifle its a 6.5x55 browning x bolt and i love iy
@reloadnorth7722
@reloadnorth7722 Год назад
I started moose hunting with a group a few years ago. We are always successful and usually harvest 2 a season - it is split between 4 families. I use my 308 win up to 300 yards and my 300 win mag up to 600 yards. I have never wounded and lost an animal. I reload 165/168gr in the 308 and 180gr in the magnum. Stay safe and happy shooting.
@paulhughes3961
@paulhughes3961 4 года назад
I used a .30.30 for Mule deer in Northern NV for years. But recently I decided I wanted a bolt action and I went with the .308. I like the low recoil and it's perfect for Southern White Tail deer.
@MrRdvs87
@MrRdvs87 4 года назад
.30-30 is nice for southern white tail for sure. Since getting into 6.5 grendel for areas in AL with the potential to go beyond 150, I dropped a red dot on a .30-30 and it’s light and fast targeting inside of 100.
@pensnut08
@pensnut08 4 года назад
A pellet gun is enough for southern deer lol I'm not poking fun, it's just a fact. But, they are cagy as hell!!
@MrRdvs87
@MrRdvs87 4 года назад
In the state I hunt in, that wouldn’t be legal. I could go down to a .357 or .44 mag rifle and be just fine with every shot I’ve ever taken, but I’d have to get a new gun and a new caliber. With proper ammo selection, I could even run a .223 and be just fine, but even if I hunt with an AR, I run a different upper with a bigger caliber just as a bit more insurance.
@scottstewart5784
@scottstewart5784 4 года назад
@@MrRdvs87 The 30-30 with 170 grain soft point core-lokts, when sighted in 2 inches high at 100 yards (same as dead on at 150,) is point and shoot anywhere up to 180 yards or so. At 200, it's 4.6 inches low of POA, and it has just under a thousand ft lbs of energy. More modern loads (levkrultion etc) improve on that. The 30-30 is legit for whitetail out to 200.
@MrRdvs87
@MrRdvs87 4 года назад
I seldom have any shots much more than 70 yards, but am aware that if I had to, I could stretch a .30-30 out to 150-200.
@m118lr
@m118lr 4 года назад
AGREED, plain & simple with ALL the cartridge choices. The ONLY aspect I might differ on is their use for “new” hunters. Seasoned hunters choose THESE rounds EVERY general rifle season when hunting medium/big game all across N. America. My favorite has been my Winchester Featherweight .270 Win. for a long time. This year actually I changed it up a bit and hunted with my M1A/.308 Win. A fantastic platform to be sure...
@thesideburnhunter4481
@thesideburnhunter4481 4 года назад
Thank you. Keep it simple folks. What ammo can you buy at the local hardware store...
@m118lr
@m118lr 4 года назад
The Sideburn Hunter..again I’ll agree. I’ve never been one to follow “trends” or ‘new’ latest and greatest anything really. Hybrid or ‘wildcat’ bullets have NEVER been an interest whatsoever. Cartridges & loads tried & proven that have been around since WWI & II, with the exception of the ‘AR’ platform were and are my main interests. The ‘newer’ cartridges for the AR for me would be the .300 BLK & the 6.8 SPC (LWRCI- specific). Reloading for 9mm, 40 S&W, 38 SPL/357 and .223/5.56 to the 308 Win..if I ONLY concentrated on these specific loads, I’d be happy. That doesn’t mean there aren’t GREAT NEW ones out there either. The .224 Valkyrie and the here-to-stay 6.5 CM is a fantastic flat-shooting 1,000+ yard round
@Wheelchair-bear
@Wheelchair-bear 3 года назад
Yes! The 6.5 Creedmore is a great cartridge for Woman and youth out to 300 yards, thank you.
@spartanj2957
@spartanj2957 3 года назад
Agree with the .270 .adding the 6.5 x55 sweed non mag.very good sd.super accurate and wll take moose .my 2 fav.cartritages of all time .if I could only have one the sweed.
@haroldgodwinson832
@haroldgodwinson832 3 года назад
For a new guy who wants an all-rounder that will handle any big game without the flinch-inducing recoil; I'd suggest either the 7mm-08 (or 7x57 if you prefer to shoot a real classic) and the .308 Win.
@cbwelch4
@cbwelch4 3 года назад
People keep forgetting that in most cases .308 is within 100 FPS of .30-06. It has a little more oomph but not much. .308 will take a moose. I know ppl who use it to do that.
@CE-vd2px
@CE-vd2px 2 года назад
Is that a .308?
@LovingIdaho
@LovingIdaho 2 года назад
I used to shoot 30-06 for hunting until I shot a friends 308 . That was about 30 years ago and still stuck with the 308 .
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 2 года назад
@@cbwelch4 Only in factory loads. If you hand load, the 30-06 starts to pull ahead. -06 can also handle the 200+ gr bullets. You can download a 30-06 to be a .308, but a .308 can’t do the few things 30-06 can.
@dennydavis2914
@dennydavis2914 2 года назад
@@cbwelch4 Actually it is about 200 feet per second, but you are close enough.
@dickhurtz4528
@dickhurtz4528 3 года назад
New hunters.. no experience with recoil.. 243.... 25-06... 350 legend Maybe a good heavy lever action 30/30
@joescott58
@joescott58 4 года назад
I love my 300WSM. It transferees a boat-load of energy. Its powerful & accurate. I have fead my family with it now since right after they hit the street. Its not a hole-driller like most magnums. This is true for big or small game. I live in the woodlands of Alaska so just trust me on this. To many stories to share, but true.
@terryleblanc6868
@terryleblanc6868 3 года назад
You should have mentioned the 308 and 30 ought 6 has so many different bullet weights to choose from I think up to 220 grain. Which packs a wallop for elk and moose.. some new hunters weighing in at 250 to 350 lb don't have a problem with 300 win mag recoil
@russellkeeling9712
@russellkeeling9712 3 года назад
All that you have chosen are wonderful calibers and there are many others to choose from also. At this stage of life I would suggest a caliber in which ammunition is available and probably will be in the future. .308 would probably be a good one and the .308 is one of the most accurate firearms out there.
@langleyj8199
@langleyj8199 4 года назад
300 win Mag a bit much for new hunter unless experienced shooter.
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
@Dude Lebowski you don't need a 300 win mag get a 7/08 and hand load less recoil and better performing then 308
@greymooose1000
@greymooose1000 4 года назад
@@dakkadakka9189 Depends on what you're hunting. Hard to beat a 7mm-08 for deer, but I wouldn't hunt larger game with it. A 308 loaded hot with a large bonded or solid bullet can provide a little more use if you're hunting more than deer.
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
@@greymooose1000 with real hunting bullet like tsx or gmx id have no problem at any reasonable range using my dad's 7/08 on moose though if you want a real thumper.friend had an old remington in 35 whelen
@greymooose1000
@greymooose1000 4 года назад
@@dakkadakka9189 Never though of getting GMX's for it. I may have to try that for my wife, as she now hunts with my old 7mm-08. And yeah, I wish my 35 Whelen was a bolt action, rather than single shot, because then I'd use it for moose and bear over my 300wsm.
@dakkadakka9189
@dakkadakka9189 4 года назад
@@greymooose1000 ya I have heard really good reports on gmx from friends that hunt with em but I'm getting 3/4 inch groups or less out to 200 yards and are with in a half inch of my vmaxs with the same zero so I don't wanna try any thing else especially not after seeing what that little bullet does on impact , 35 whelen is a great caliber heavy bullet and great velocities, my friends is a remington 700 in 35 whelen with irons and a 2-7x33 luepold he's getting 2650 with 250 grainers and handloads
@TShawn64
@TShawn64 3 года назад
Nice wrap, getting a .300 win mag to add to my collection.... thank you
@toldroyd1
@toldroyd1 2 года назад
You didn't mention the .243 Winchester, a lot of Mule deer sucumb to it every year. Also, I feel the 7MM rem mag is a lot better for deer and antelope than the 300 winchester Mag. Its recoil is almost the same as the 30-06 and shoots much flatter. It also can be used for Elk and Moose. My personal favorite is the .270 Remington with 110 grain Barnes TSX bullets for antelope and Muleys and 130 grain TSX for Elk and Moose. My Moose was dead when the 130 gr. TSX hit his heart and then it continued through the off side shoulder and exited the hide on that side. He dropped where he stood on the bank of the pond he had just exited. I guess old Jack O'Conner knew what he was talking about. What ever you do, don't follow his advice as a 130 grain silvertip on top of 64 grains of 4831 (it would have been H4831 as IMR 4831 wasn't invented yet) powder will surely cause a problem.
@jacobwilliams5702
@jacobwilliams5702 4 года назад
I like the good old 270 it’s reliable flat shooting not to much recoil accurate and great knock down power
@greymooose1000
@greymooose1000 4 года назад
It's one of the worst rounds available, but put it in the right place, and it does fantastic!
@jumpy5064
@jumpy5064 4 года назад
Jeaux Burreaux what do you mean “worst round available “ it’s a great round
@greymooose1000
@greymooose1000 4 года назад
@@jumpy5064 I would say that it does ok when using the correct bullet weight and good shot placement. Its popularity is based on timing and marketing, rather than performance. Due to the twist rate of the 270, it cannot fire heavier bullets and maintain stability, giving it one of the worst sectional densities on the market (lowest penetration capability per bullet weight) It also has one of the worst ballistic coefficients among hunting rifle cartridges, meaning it is one of the worst in air/wind resistance, so it is inefficient at long range per its powder charge. Also, with any 30-06 parent casing, it's not particularly well suited for ladies and youth like a 308 parent casing OR long distance use as seen in magnum casings. It does ok, but anyone serious about performance wouldn't touch one.
@CARLPHILLY
@CARLPHILLY 4 года назад
@@greymooose1000 I have killed many white tail deer with my 270 from 25 to 250 yards, and it's always preformed very well. It has been around for a long time, and is very popular, that speaks volumes.
@greymooose1000
@greymooose1000 4 года назад
@@CARLPHILLY Look, it's not a ball and cap musket. It's a well made, high powered rifle that has a great selection of bullets for deer. But, when compared to others, it does not perform quite as well and it's limited in terms of flexibility in its casing class.
@kevincraig6407
@kevincraig6407 4 года назад
Having lived a "reasonable" ammount of time, if i were to advise new comers to hunting,what i would suggest is the .308 ( my first rifle), in thompson center,then learn to reload, and buy barrels from .243 win through .338 hornady, coyotes to grizzleys out of the same brass.
@carlh7795
@carlh7795 4 года назад
@@graynotescartridgebox he's thinking 338 Federal.
@carlh7795
@carlh7795 4 года назад
Or just go with a regular .308 only. No newcomer should be hunting griz/browns. .308 will handle everything from yotes to elk (I consider moose a bit easier to kill than elk). Basically everything in North America other than brown bear. If you can afford a brown bear hunt, and have the abilities, you can afford a .338Win, .375 H&H, 416... or can probably find one to borrow if needed.
@m118lr
@m118lr 4 года назад
A standard .308 Win rifle for an all-around general purpose rifle is PERFECTLY fine. NO reloading, etc is really needed...MUCH LESS barrel swapping...
@Joeatsaco69
@Joeatsaco69 3 года назад
Can’t swamp the new people with too much. Remember they have to understand ballistics and wind and how to range. Small steps before reloading. I started with pistol and revolver ammo. Rifle is a new ball game.
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
Buy your gun and ammunition online 🇺🇸🇺🇸 ChrisParkerfirearms.com Got certified FFL and ship to all states.. ammunition available are: 9mm, 5.56, 223, 45acp, 65creedmor, 22lr, 380,and more .. Dm us if interested and purchase up your ammo online
@davesmith4596
@davesmith4596 2 года назад
I agree with your selection, I’m 75 yrs. old and only hunt with a 59 yr. old Savage 110L rifle. I’ve only ever used 180 gr. Nosler partioned reloads for all my hunting since I purchased the rifle. I’ve killed a moose at 400 yds.(3 shots, 3 hits), caribou at 300 yds.(1 shot) and an elk at 568 yds. (2 shots 6” apart my best kill).
@DustinSilva
@DustinSilva 3 года назад
Great video! I own a .308 and soon to inherit a .30-06...But that .270 looks great and I need to get one!
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 3 года назад
If you get the '06, it will do anything the .270 will, except it won't shoot quite as flat. It also handles much heavier bullets than the .270, and that's where the '06 really shines.
@patrickkinney4998
@patrickkinney4998 3 года назад
When I was a kid we hunted deer and bear with a 30-30 and a .35 Remington. Guess we didn’t know any better.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 3 года назад
Both great performers inside 150, maybe 200 yards. Both rounds also love cast bullets because they operate at modest velocities.
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 4 года назад
This could have been two. The reason is the "new hunters" part. The 308 and the 260 are hard to beat, although 243 Remington and 250 Savage are ideal for up to mid size dear too.
@chrisparkerammo4861
@chrisparkerammo4861 2 года назад
Buy your gun and ammunition online 🇺🇸🇺🇸 ChrisParkerfirearms.com Got certified FFL and ship to all states.. ammunition available are: 9mm, 5.56, 223, 45acp, 65creedmor, 22lr, 380,and more .. Dm us if interested and purchase up your ammo online
@dennydavis2914
@dennydavis2914 Год назад
I would love to get a 260, but ammo is really hard to find. I just don't understand how 6.5 creedmoor ever got so popular when the 260 is clearly a superior round.
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 3 года назад
.300 Win Mag for a new hunter? Scope bite+3or4 stitches=former new hunter! [Laffin'😁] Any bolt action rifle chambered in 243 Win is an excellent round up to mule deer sized game. Beyond that, the .30 06 and the .308 are more than ample. I've been hunting deer and antelope for over fifty years. I still cringe a bit before touching off my .300 Win Mag, pushing 180 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips, when sighting it in. Funny thing though, when it's thrown down on a huge Wyoming 4x4 muley, I never even hear the gun go off! Guns N Basses Forever! 🔫🎸
@jeffscuderi8662
@jeffscuderi8662 3 года назад
Proper eye relief no problem
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 3 года назад
@@jeffscuderi8662 Actually, the problem is that often times many shooters don't know that they don't have the requisite amount of eye relief, until they pull the trigger...especially newbs, but not exclusively. Seen a lot of old timers get kicked in the face with a scoped 30.06, 7Mag, you name it. Give 'em a 300 Win Mag and let 'em have at it. Then when he's bleeding like a stuck pig, explain eye relief to him...[laffin'😁]
@jeffscuderi8662
@jeffscuderi8662 3 года назад
@@bustabass9025 mine has a 6x42 Leupold and it has about 4.5in eye relief so it's perfect
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 3 года назад
@@jeffscuderi8662 👍...then you're good to go! Should never see you in the Redi-Care getting your nose stitched back together. Happened to my buddy, on a Wyoming hunting trip, and believe me, it's not a pretty sight.
@votekyle3000
@votekyle3000 3 года назад
You can find a lot of rifles and a lot of ammo options for these bullets. That definitely makes it easy on a new hunter.
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