5 Bloodiest Law Enforcement in US History 

There is a documentary and a movie

Short of head shots with .308s they would not have stopped them. At one point Mătăsăreanu was hit in the eye, it staggered him a little but after he got up, he began a retreat and was still in the fight. They were not feeling any hits, they found ephedrine (in high doses it acts like an amphetamine) and phenylpropanolamine (another member of the amphetamine family but works on different receptors) in Phillips' blood. Mătăsăreanu's blood contained phenytoin, the more common name is Dilantin. It's a nasty little anti-seizure medication with a ton of side effects. He was shot 5 times in the extremities and kept going, a SWAT officer shot him twice in the chest (body armor) and that did not stop him, shot in the leg again and then was shoot in the foot/lower leg which put him on the ground (he surrendered), the final report said he was still belligerent as they waited for the ambulance. That's when he died from blood loss (exsanguination is the medical term). Phillips was hit at least 4 times in his extremities before he took his own life (he was shot several times after he committed suicide). The drug use always gets left out of this case, but it was important, that's what made them so seem so immune to the firearms the LAPD patrol unit's bough to the fight. These two knew how to build a bad day. I hope we never see their particular combination of drug use and their proclivity towards violence ever again.

Yep I remember that. I also remember the Waco incident breaking national news. I was around thirteen years old at the time. I also remember Heaven’s Gate.

That's the incident that made it a nationwide protocol for at least one patrol officer on every shift have a high powered rifle

you got to keep in mind by the time they got there you t was over

@@isaacherrera7846 Who got where when it was over? The LA SWAT team (albeit in their tactical workout cloths) is who ended the engagement. None of the AR's collected from the local gun shop where even fired. Phillips took his own life after being shot several times in arms/legs and Mătăsăreanu die (bled out) in custody waiting for an RA unit to arrive.

I agree they started unaliving whoever they wanted to immediately...bit of course our government covered that up...

And that this agency hates the 2nd Amendment.

@@joaopedrobaggio4475 Yes sir.

The ATF wanted a "show." They could have taken the leaders of the Branch Davidians and satisfied their warrant in town when they were away from their compound. I was no fan of Koresh but the whole operation was FUBAR from jump street. Nobody was ever punished in fact many of the "planners" at the agency where later promoted. Hey what's the big deal they only got assaulters killed and wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a standoff (not to mention the civil suites) to serve a warrant they could have done with 4 agents if they just waited and watched. I guess the concept of "economy of force" is not taught in ATF leader training.

Your evidence?

Hamas believed that too.

@@frankmartin8471 Actually, attacking women and children is Hamas' MO,

Why

It was 1993

For real! In Miami, 12" of snow is usually on the mirror, neatly put into lines.

The Branch Davidians were operating for a long time before the alphabet crew got nosy, and local law enforcement never had one problem out of them. I Imagine people in Texas owning that many guns is not that uncommon. I live in Tennessee and between myself along with siblings and close family, we have well over 200 guns that I can think of

It wasn't local PD involved with Ruby Ridge or Waco, it was feds and they hate Americans.

Be careful with assumptions sir - they can land you in a world of lies . 😢

I’m not sure about other states, but I live in Tennessee and you can own as many as you can buy. between everyone in my immediate family who live in the same area, we have well over 200 guns that I can think of. That’s based on how many of us each have in our individual collections. I have 31 myself…we have family in DEL-RIO Texas and I know they have the same laws regarding the unlimited quantity of firearms you can own.

How many you want to own is how many you can own. The 2A puts no limits on your rights.

My question was rhetorical as an American I can have as many as I want but for the gp all of my guns were lost in a fire

​@@thomasking9190 I know your trauma, mine died in a boating accident

@@bradymorris7721 all to many end that way

Heard that too lol

Wtf how did u guess that 4days later for me😭

What’s that supposed to mean? Gunfights do not look like a well rehearsed Hollywood movie; they’re wild & unpredictable. So unless you’ve been in a gunfight, and I have, your “expert” opinion has to relevance here.