5 Decisions You Aren’t Allowed to Make | The Witcher 3 

I like to think of the games as Dandelion's telling of events. Sometimes embellished or outright incorrect.

Thaler was such a fun character, I wish he received more attention. Would've been fun if he gave you a minor quest that would involve more dialogue with him.

Yen is justifiably upset Geralt slept with her good friend Triss, despite his memory loss. However, I should think she'd be much more angry at Triss. After all, Triss's memory was intact when she decided to have relations with Geralt.

Wish we had Iorveth in W3, such an amazing character

Did you hear about the note you can find in oxenfurt academy? In W2 there's a little side quest in flotsam to take a mysterious potion from a couple of scholars, apparently if you port that save over to W3 a note appears on one of the benches in the oxenfurt academy which is the follow up log from the scholars. It's revealed that the idea behind the potion was to cure sterility, and that's why geralt is the perfect candidate for the experiment which is one of the lines they say in W2.

if witcher 4 takes place after witcher 3 i hope we can see our decisions and consequences

There’s a lot of comments about Iorveth so I’ll just say he was supposed to be in The Witcher 3 and the writers had a whole subplot planned for him revolving around the Scoia’tael and the Nilfgaardian army base at the bottom of the map. Unfortunately it was cut due to time constraints and the devs didn’t want to just throw him in the game with nothing to do so they cut him out completely. The lead quest designer said if they could’ve done one more thing before release it would’ve been the Iorveth subplot.

While Roche's endings being thrown away is painful, my headcanon is that he just does whatever is best for Temeria at the moment. W2 Radovid is actually not that bad, you have Foltest's daughter being prepared to be queen with Roche protecting her and Natalis being around, so they could keep Radovid relatively in check and work something for Temeria, but now, in W3 that he went nuts and Nilgaard is at the door, there is no way Radovid can be left alive if you think about Temeria's future

Might be a controversial opinion, but I do wish we'd have gotten Upper Aediern/Vergen instead of Skellige in the Witcher 3. That would mean we would have been able to interact with Saskia and Iorveth and (crucially) would have given some relevance to the Stennis and Henselt choices in W2.

Mass Effect also has a few things like this (although it is generally much better at acknowledging decisions in previous games). I think the problem is that they need to know in advance what information to save in order to keep it in the next games, and it's easy to miss things. That and, of course, that fact that some changes (like killing Thaler for example) would have too much of an impact to be allowed to happen

Since I think the Witcher 4 is going be a totally new character with their own journey I think the one way i think a Witcher 3 save can be imported to the next game is with the three endings The worst ending would decide if there's a Geralt and Ciri cameo The Ciri Witcher ending would decide whether she is a Witcher that is talked about in the world And the last but not least the Empress ending where we could potentially meet our queen Ciri or read of her rule in the books

I'm really glad you started this channel, there's so much stuff to discover in The Witcher that it's nice to have someone break it down

There is another funny instance in Hearts of Stone where you can "simulate" a Witcher 1 decision to either kill Siegfried or let him live, regardless of your choice in W1. I know the player has a choice here, but still funny how it doesn't carry over and gives you the choice a second time. I suppose it goes for the Order of the Flaming Rose as well, that their fate is doomed no matter what choice you make in W1.

I would actually really enjoy a mini series of certain evens from the Witcher 2 that just aren’t brought up in the Witcher 3. Also throughly enjoying the content, it’s such high quality and I appreciate how much time and energy you put into each video, keep up the great work!

The thing with Thaler is pretty easy to get around. The issue with Adda is a big problem, though. They probably should've had some kind of explanation. I played the games in order and was kind of annoyed that they completely disregarded the Shani romance since the books add a whole new wrinkle to the Triss relationship.

I played The Witcher 1 and 2 multiple times before the third and often wondered about these things, especially ignoring Thaler's possible death.

You really have a nice channel pal. It's nice to hear someone talk with so much passion about this series, wich is also my favorite book and games series. Keep it up

Man. I thank you so much for mentioning Witcher 1 and 2. Because many players didnt even play it. I played it many times and i feel sorry for people who didnt even try the game but only judging by some videos. BIG THANKS ❤️. I instantly Subscribed

Great video! I also really loved all the Thaler dialouge and cutscenes in TW1

Wow man! Awesome video. Detailed research and points! 😊

Wow, that is very intriguing indeed. Thank you for making the effort to show us.

Awesome video. Thank you

My usual comment to support your channel. You are doing a great job. I wish you inspiration.

Great work! Love your videos and appreciate your effort! 😁

Damn! I always wondered how the hell they didn't realise Thaler can die in the first game! Such an interesting video as always, really enjoy all the content you upload!!

Love your videos man, keep it going

Really love this type of video. Especially the references to Witcher 1. I think that game is really underrated and is still fun to play

Dude i love these videos you make, I even wait till dinners ready to eat while watching. Hot food and a neon knight video the best duo...

As someone who played Witcher 1 and 2 before Witcher 3, I was annoyed at how much they ignore Iorveth and Saskia in 3. I personally chose the Iorveth path when I played Witcher 2, but it seems like CDPR wants the Roache path to be the canon choice.

I've been enjoying alot of your content lately, I randomly remembered I hadn't done a NG+ of the Witcher 3 so I dove back in and now I'm hyped for the 4th and seeing stuff like this is so nice and interesting

Another awesome video!!

Awesome video! I love the effort you’re putting into your content. I think you’ll be at 50, then 100k in no time!

I’m torn, because on the one hand it would be nice to get even just a single line of dialogue to reference some of these things (especially Adda, given she’s also from the books and it would be nice to know how things turned out for her). On the other hand, as a longtime Dragon Age fan, I’m well aware of how hollow some callbacks can feel, particularly once you have the weight of three games-worth of decisions to wrestle with. It feels like something of a damned if you do, dammed if you don’t situation. Also, describing Roche in Redanian gear as “one of the weirdest things you’ll ever see” is hilarious. And true, of course.

Great video, and it is very well put together, which is not something you usually see from a "small" creator im sure you will get to 100k soon

Great videao as always!

There is also a major inconsistency between The Witcher 1 and 2/3. Radovid wouldn't need Anais, an illegitimate younger daughter of Foltest, when he is married to Adda, an older (albeit still illegitimate) daughter of Foltest. The argument is that 'Temerians will never accept a Redanian on the throne', but wouldn't Anais be also seen as a Redanian pawn if she is controlled by Radovid?

Excellent thought provoking video

Great video man, very interesting

I love that the games reference each other, but it would be interesting if those decisions had more of an impact. They probably don't because then one decision would have to be taken as canon over the other(s). Such an interesting video. I'd love to see more

This was a great video. Just locked in even more I want to play witcher 2 soon 😍 Great edits as always neon

Really interesting, I completely forgot Thaler can die in the Witcher 1. But I knew Triss' and Geralt's relationship did not always fit with the quotes in the witcher 3. I am excited about your next video, well done;)

Quite a creative video idea like. Enjoyed a lot!

Very interesting. Tks for this vid.

I need more witcher vid like this, it's fun to watch

I love how the kiddo still dances goofing around on top of Thaler's body like it's just another day in the medieval era.

Most Witcher fans will be here for pretty much any Witcher content.. if you wanna make a video just go for it... we'll definitely be here for it regardless

Great video. It would be fascinating to see materials about W1 and W2, there games are amazing. Please consider making "10 things you missed in Flotsam" or so;) keep up great work!

I agree with you with the hole Saskia thing, I really wanted to see more of her, she was an interesting character

You should have a look at the stand alone Gwent as it really expands and builds on the post and pre-Witcher 3 world it’s actually quite fun seeing how new expansions expand the lore of the Witcher world even further. Anyway great video as always!

That video make me realise that I almost do every choice the game did for me anyway when i do the trilogy. That's why I never noticed these. Very interesting video, thanks for it.

I've never played the Witcher 1 but I find the stoic models hilarious

I'm watching this in August 2023; the next game is not out yet and you 111k subscribers, so congratulations. You have done very well. Thank you for the informative and interesting videos on The Witcher. I really love The Witcher 3.

You know how many characters from earlier games either appear in later games or are mentioned in some way, but I can think of a character that is never ever mentioned: Yaevinn. Canonically, he must be dead, but why no mention at all? Also, thank you for the video, enjoying every single one you're making!

Amazing channel.

You nailed the Roche one i was wondering since i chose that option in Witcher 2 why Roche stopped working for Radovid

I think Yen is hypocritical. Everyone around him knew about her. They didn't tell him. And he thought she was dead after he did remember. Triss took advantage. Everyone basically lied to him. But that's just my take.

I would’ve loved if the choices had bigger impact over the course of the trilogy, something similar to mass effect.

Aha, now I want to replay W3. Thanks!

I could swear i saw somewhere that your romance status affected the inventory item icon for the rose of rememberance (if you had active romance with triss it was blooming but if you stoped it it was withered tho dialogue always mentions it being dry. That would mean it has at least a little part in the code. However i was unable to find the video mentioning it so i am not 100% sure anymore.

This is actually a complex issue to address and CDPR has handled it well, but not perfect imo. Firstly, our decisions HAVE to have consequences, otherwise everything we decide is just meaningless. But, with the many consequences and narratives possible in Witcher games (which i think are a big part of what makes the games as great as they are and are really, really good) it's obviously impossible to account for all possible choices in a follow-up game. Therefore, they have to decide on a canon path that Geralt took, which they do to some degree and i think is quite appropriate. What i really dislike, is when they skirt around a topic, like Radovid's wife for example. They absolutely need to pick a storyline and stick with it and account for player decisions as often as they can. Just not mentioning it at all, just makes the initial decision meaningless, as if you did nothing at all, which i think is the worst way to go in this.

you re amazing!

It would have been cool if you romance Triss in W3 the rose came alive again and you could give it back to her.

Legend has it that, to this day, Neon Knight is still scrolling down his manual saves list.

Very good choice with witcher 1 soundtrack in the background Has some of the best acts

Excellent video. I remember being mind blown by Witcher 2 after a few playthroughs. The various branching choices completely changing the middle and end events. This was long before 3 was even confirmed and I just thought holy shit, they're setting it up so much for a follow-up game, finding Yen etc. How in the hell are you going to compensate for all the endings which massively affect all the kingdoms' power and influence. Thought it was impossible to account for, or consolidate the open threads but they did it really well. So I will forgive a few of the more 'out there' uncharacteristic ending options bring scrapped.

About mentioning Saskia. There's another quest in Witcher 3 where she's mentioned. If you spared her, then you can mention that as proof of you being a friend to monsters, in the quest where a werewolf, Doppler and troll conspire to kill you in Skellige

a very nice video, as always! thank you! one thing we should think of in this matter is that series of the games that actively use gamers' choices to progress through the plot of the game *must* choose somewhat *true* ending so that they could make the next game. it automatically means giving up all other endings and mark all other choices as non-canon. witcher 3 had to give up some plotlines to tie everything together, leave behind some [/cough/ female] characters. so that's completely fine for me you can't have everything at one time. we got Shani and that's so much more than we could hope for. another thing that I think about a lot is how f_cked up first witcher game was. and the second one was only slightly better if you think about it. I think cdpr just realized that first two games were very poorly made in comparison with the third game they were making so they left them behind hoping no-one will really remember them. and they bring out the events happened in the first (and second) game very rarely too as if they reeeeally wanted them to be long forgotten lmao. (and honestly witcher 1 wouldn't survive a day in the world we know today). also, the plotline doesn't seem to go anywhere good in these two games too while saving Ciri is always a win. maybe it's even better for them to stay in the shadow, I don't want cdpr to be cancelled lmao. so, yeah, I'm glad cdpr made their homework, learned from their mistakes and improved witcher series in every possible way to bring us witcher 3. I respect and love them for that.

Man Evan 7 years later the Witcher III @ 4K ultra quality Graphics + Story & Characters Still Captures me 🍷

The saskia comic is basically for people who sided with saskia. If you did then it takes place after the ending of the game. It also hints at what happened in vergen as well. Apparently the fight didn't end well as saskia encountered not just soldiers but also a witch possibly frangilla vigo. She lost the fight and all the leadership of vergen was executed.

This video is now extra interesting to watch with a Witcher remake on the horizon. Wonder if they’ll change things to be consistent with Witcher 3.

This reminds me of how in Mass Effect 2 Conrad Verner no matter what will treat Shepard like they used the renegade options with him in the first game, but that was a bug in the save system so Conrad will only act one way. So they made fun of this discrepancy in Mass Effect 3 by having Conrad apologize and be uncertain if Shepard ever assaulted him.

2:30 i like how he puts his sword back on his back

Even the choices from 1 to 2 had that issue, like Radovid's need to have Foltest's bastards, if you saved Ada, Foltest's death in 2 wouldn't be that much of a cluster fuck since Ada was a legit successor and Redania could have just swooped in. Also I sometimes encounter a bug/glitch were Sile is still alive in the dungeons even if you allow her to die in Witcher 2.

Very interesting video! The whole thing of not taking into a count some choices/finals of previous games could be a hint on how CDP RED works and may disprove the theory that alla Witcher 3 finals are true at ones, but with some weeks between one another

I'm really going to need to play Witcher 1 and 2 one of these days 😤

Halfway through this and just noticed the music in the background is the same music in my current skyrim playthrough🤣

I also really want more Saskia. You know what I think could be a fun video/discussion? Your pitch for if Ciri is the player character in Witcher 4, and how Saskia would be involved. (I'm thinking bare minimum a major side quest, and not a very brief appearance)

the replay value on this game🔥🔥🔥

"Apparently-incredible bed" 🤣 It does seem that everyone who's visited Kaer Morhen knows that that bed is awesome

wow I didn't know about any of these!

omg the little girl playfully stomping over ol'Thaler's corpse!!!

Oh wow, so I was actually right when I predicted in your community post that one of the things is probably about not sleeping with Triss in The Witcher (1)! =D

if you take in consideration how Radovid acts in the third game, I don't suppose Roche's hypothetical betrayal would be unlikely. as he said: "my true colors are on my skin, that will never change" which could imply that when Radovid started acting awry he would just defect and start over with the Temerian Guerrila. would be great for it to be mentioned in dialogue though since it is not that ridiculous of a concept in my point of view.

You should definitely just do a video about all the saved game import stuff, I bet a lot of people aren’t aware of all the things that get acknowledged.

If you save Adda in TW1 and import the save in TW2, you can talk about the marriage of her and Radovid to Henselt, but there is a book telling the story of Adda's curse, saying that she died anyway

I think it is the logical conclusion to have a consistent story. I like that choices are offered but I think it can make future stories limited if taken to seriously.

11:43 Funny, I got that exact dialog without knowing it happens only when making such desicions in W2. Thank you for the insight! I played the whole trilogy and now I'm realizing a forgot most of the little thing s there.

second😿😿 also i forgot to edit this comment yesterday btf whatewer edit: i wondered about the thaller stuf too, but i never actually found the time to test it and play all the games just to find out if him dying changes anything in tw3 so now i know. the Triss stuff confused me when i first ran through all 3 of the games chronologically but i am a Triss guy so it didnt really affect me. The thing that really surprised me was the last fact about saskia as i never got the dialogue with phillipa about her. Thanks for the video and i would absolutely love some more of the "choices that affect tw3 or that tw3 just ignores".

PLEASE make a video about the lesser known imported choices. The wiki has such a tiny list of differences that our choices actually make from TW2. I had no idea about the subtle dialogue changes in minor quests. Also things like the mage hiding in the morgue(?) who mentions the slaughter at Loc Muinne must be different depending on your choices. It really bothers me that Roche flat out tells Geralt "I don't trust anyone, not even you" despite the fact that you could have sided with him, let him kill henselt, proceed to take the blame for said killing when Radovid asks, form such a strong bond with Roche and yet he still says that line regardless. It's choices like those that make chronological playthroughs so special, but unfortunately I prefer siding with Iorveth nowadays because it seems to flow into the third game much better (Despite always siding with Siegfried in the first game).

I played the games in order. Made infinitely more sense.

Just last month I finally got around to playing W2 and was pleasantly surprised by how much I like it. Afterwards I started replaying W3 and for some reason, I started noticing all the graffiti in Novigrad, I rarely see those discussed, maybe that's a topic for a future video

I guess you could summarise Roche's turn towards assassination as 6 months of living what it would be like under Radovid. I'm glad its not canon as helping him with Anais is but for those who chose to help Radovid in TW2 I'm thinking that Radovid's mental instability which is mentioned by Roche in the 3rd game is the kicker.

I think they may have put it in there for people like me who hadn't played 1 and 2. It was a clue I needed to go play them to figure out what Geralt and Phill were talking about.

Now I'm going to do them even harder

I played the games in order, but I didn't really care much for the series at all until I played Witcher 3. I never imported any saves but I doubt I would have remembered what I did in a previous game anyway. I only remembered some of the bigger stuff. The only other games I that I have played that import from previous games - Mass Effect and Dragon Age - also have a few instances where they retcon something that you've done (but not as much as in the Witcher series from the looks of it.)

I would like more 'decisions that didn't matter' videos

talking about 2nd: Triss was in Kear Morhen in the books, not only in games.

The way shit is going you gonna have more then 1m sub when next witcher games come out ( its been a long while)

Even though Nilfgaard is harsh, Radovid does not see the big picture of the future for the Northern Kingdom

When you mentioned in the beginning of the video that the Witcher 3 often avoids topics that are too complicated too address did you mean the many times events and characters from the previous games (especially Witcher 1) are mentioned in a super vague way, or just ignored? If so that is also a good video idea I would love to watch, especially since there are many conspiracies that the Witcher 3 was supposed to be alot more political and focus on the Northern Realms vs Nilfgaard war with all the parties from Witcher 2 but they changed it completely to make it a completely character driven game with the characters we know and love and almost completely ignoring the political aspect of the world which acts as more of a backdrop and a way to set up the world around you, a land ravaged by war conflict and high tensions, which is the game we got eventually which is probably the best decision they could have made and I am VERY glad they made that decision but it's still interesting to think how the Witcher 3 could have looked like if that other option were the direction they chose for the game.