5 Descending Positions So Dangerous They Were Banned

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When the UCI banned some of the peloton's favourite aerodynamic descending positions on safety grounds, they were met with some criticism. Did they have the best interests of cyclists at heart, or do they just hate fun? We did the sensible thing and sent our resident crash test dummy down the side of a mountain to find out.
*all dodgy descents at GCN are performed by trained (ish) professionals. Do not try this at home.
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - The Superman
2:02 - The Pantani
3:13 - Chest On The Bars
4:07 - The Supertuck
5:11 - Puppy Paws
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@gcn Год назад

What's your favourite descending position?

@twertygo Год назад

Pantani, because when emergency breaking there is more weight on the backwheel so it does not lift up and can still contribute to breaking power.

@davetbassbos Год назад

The superman actually makes sense, at least based on the best way to dive into water

@Hawky2947 Год назад

@@davetbassbos Or splat into a roadblock.

@a1white Год назад

Sitting on the saddle, with my hands on the drops covering the brakes 😬

@bossg2817 Год назад

The roll-over after crashing

@redrocker1055 Год назад

I did the Superman once when I was a kid. I have to say the paramedics were some of the nicest people I've ever met.

@alast345 Год назад

I did it as a kid once on a group ride... in the next turn I almost went over the guard railing and then it would have been one direction only: down! Took weeks to go remotely fast on a bike again.

@daryl4841 Год назад

I always make sure I wear my cape when I go in that position. Makes it double safe when the cape gets sucked down into the rear wheel.

@aljaliah6868 Год назад

😂😂😂

@maedschnoe Год назад

did it this summer twice on my touring bike, packed with only one saddle bag(sic!). first time went well but thanks to high spirits the second time broke my palm bone, because the bike went from unstable to uncontrollable, while i was climbing back to normal position. ;) now i'm back on track xD

@Aeronwor Год назад

@@daryl4841 "no capes!"

@hondasaurusrex6998 Год назад

... and with this we want to thank Hank for risking life, limb, and jiblets (Froome position) in making this video! Good stuff young man.

@gcn Год назад

We're yet to find out what he won't risk for 7 minutes of bad jokes

@Welther47 Год назад

I noticed it's usually Hank when it's the dangerous stuff.

@bratSebastian Год назад

Don't forget about nearly loosing his underwear. Oh sh*t, cyclists don't wear underwear!

@v4riab1lity77 Год назад

@@bratSebastian we dont?

@bratSebastian Год назад

@@v4riab1lity77 I've heard it's time for cycling shorts. Repeatedly.

@drmitofit2673 Год назад

In the last lap of the 2015 World Cycling Championship in Richmond Virginia, Peter Sagan broke away on a steep cobblestone climb but commentators said the gap wasn't big enough to win. But then he used the Supertuck (legal at the time) on the subsequent downhill and pulled further away while coasting despite his competitors pedaling furiously. He not only greatly extended his lead, but allowed his legs to recover for the final push to the finish.

@thehemmo5078 Год назад

any advancement is banned... great job.

@JaredCzaia Год назад

Peter Sagan's above average mass also gives him some advantage on descents. He's one of the rare decorated cyclists with a fairly muscular upper body.

@lambertlum1087 Год назад

@@JaredCzaia Muscular upper body, and I thought that only happened on Yowapeda.

@henseleric Год назад

@@JaredCzaia Thor Hushovd, as well.

@79devo Год назад

So basically, any of the positions we used on our bikes going to or from school are banned !

@gcn Год назад

They won't even let you carry your team mate on your handlebars while you desperately stretch to see over their shoulder during the Tour de France

@jeroenimus7528 Год назад

@@gcn Teammates aren't allowed to sit on the back behind you either I presume?

@Nick_CF Год назад

So no sitting on the bars backwards?

@ShannonSouthAfrica Год назад

@@gcn lol

@bratSebastian Год назад

@@gcn Not even when you carry him uphill first?

@196592 Год назад

The Pantani position is used quite often in mountain biking; If you brake suddenly, it'll keep you from going over the handlebars.

@J1.329 Год назад

Yeah, I sort of do it on my road bike when I brake quickly

@GravelRacer1 Год назад

I instinctively used it to keep my weight back during a single track section of a gravel race so I didn't go over the handle bars. Only for a few seconds but was nessessary.

@TimInertiatic Год назад

I think the main issue is that you are tucking yourself behind the saddle to get as aero as possible, so you are kinda fixed in place with hardly any weight over the front tyre and little chance of quickly correcting should you need to. On an MTB you get your weight back but relatively high in comparison as getting caught behind your saddle on steep or technical trails is a recipe for an OTB.

@alessandropinto5204 Год назад

Indeed, but in that case it is used to better control the bike when braking or descending steep sections which you wouldn't be able to go down otherwise, with the added bonus of weighing the rear wheel so that you can apply harder braking without flying over the bars. Not for going 60+ mph down an alpine road with your arms outstretched! I've tried it once and by (admittedly) my own mistake, my backpack's cheststrap snagged into the saddle's tip preventing me from lifting my chest off the saddle when I hit a bump. What a punch to the ribcage it was! By sheer luck I was able to mantain control and return to the normal position without falling, but I've learned my lesson.

@Asquaredphoto Год назад

I can only imagine at the production meeting, one of the producers said they're going to shoot a video about banned positions, then asked who should host and every eye turned to Hank.

@briangermann5567 Год назад

Did Hank ride up the climb for each of those positions? That's dedication.

@jeanmartin963 Год назад

The "Pantani" is also the moutain bike descent style. It reduces the drag but also lower your center of gravity and makes it more difficult to pass and fall across the top of your front wheel.

@aymericpeten761 Год назад

it's not so much that it lowers your CG, more that it gets it as far back as possible, so it's harder to go over the bars, which is a REAL problem in some montain bike descents

@bmxriderforlife1234 Год назад

@@aymericpeten761 partly depends on the rest of the bike. Long enough stays can help keep the front from wanting to pop up plus a low bb height. Effective top tube length and stem length and weight distribution.

@SugmaNatsu Год назад

I did the supertuck once and my foot slipped off the pedal downhill. To say it was shit-your-pants terrifying is an understatement

@EstelonAgarwaen Год назад

I regularly supertuck on descents. Only on the relatively flat ish straight road ones tho

@SugmaNatsu Год назад

@@EstelonAgarwaen I do it every time i see a big downhill with light traffic. It's so much fun to go fast especially on the bike

@kyle_c936 Год назад

I got into doing it on descents until the bike got a big wobble on when going down a particularly steep descent. That bike has never shimmied otherwise and it hasn't happened again, but that's just because I scared myself shitless so I've never done it again!

@SugmaNatsu Год назад

@@kyle_c936 That happened to me too. I was going down the same downhill when i got the wobble. It was startling lol

@Rav3nnn Год назад

Time to invest on some clipless pedals then.

@gangstreG123 Год назад

Kudos to Hank for being able to chat and host while keeping those challenging positions!

@jofitness9373 Год назад

Froomey‘s descent was legendary though:) Pidcock‘s descent this year was insane!

@dsrc53 Год назад

I definitely use the Pantani going down descents never knew there was a name for it just thought I found comfortable position It makes me feel much more stable. Great video !!!

@Seraphim262 Год назад

Good video, compact with humor, good audio and video quality. Good job guys!

@238949 Год назад

Hank, you are a legend, so close to those barriers sometimes, gave me goose bumps :) x

@AlbertBergen Год назад

Awesome video. I made a wiseass comment about another video and - I'm sure this video was planned well in advance - but it feels like I got a whole video in response the next day. Made my day!

@Dakota-cz5od Год назад

I personally love the supertuck. It took me several months to really gain the confidence to employ it on command and even still it's kinda scary at times, but man is it fast!

@PBlaik Год назад

I like the supertuck (chris froome) too, not for pedaling, it feels quite stable to me....

@spankmypita Год назад

+1 for the Sagan super tuck on descents. No Froome pedaling for me tho

@nikveldkamp8630 Год назад

currently (still) UCI legal, a dropper post appears to mimic the supertuck 🤔 Did someone calculate and compare the effect Mohoric had on the Poggio descent thanks to his dropper post? Or was it more a psychological trick he played against the peloton and actually his recconing gave him the confidence to descend as insanely as he did? (Being not in races but on public roads, I hardly ever did the supertuck, but it's always remarkable how even rolling out in the flat it gives an edge, decreasing your drag.)

@0xsergy Год назад

@@nikveldkamp8630 dropper post definitely allows for both super tuck and panatini just by shifting your weight forward and back. A dropper post makes sense to make it safer to adjust aero and knee position on the go.

@nikveldkamp8630 Год назад

@@0xsergy that I already know - was asking if s.o. calculated the aero gains in comparison to supertuck etc.

@davidkeddle4192 Год назад

On Sept. 13, 1948, Roland “Rollie” Free, riding prone on a specially prepared Vincent Black Shadow considered the first Black Lightning, and wearing nothing more than a pair of beach shoes and a bathing suit and cap, made his historic 150.313mph land speed record run on the Bonneville Salt Flats. There must be something to the superman position.

@bennyb.1742 Год назад

Have the poster on my wall!

@davidkeddle4192 Год назад

@@bennyb.1742 As well as a cyclist you must be a motorcyclist?

@patheddles4004 Год назад

Came here to say that. Absolutely terrifying stunt, that one. And I mean, he did start out wearing full leather protective gear. But then when it started ripping, he just stripped down and did the thing pretty much naked. Like I said, terrifying.

@hateferd Год назад

Thank you for the inspiration!

@mimikyulorders2611 Год назад

Ferb, i know what we're gonna do today.

@SecwetGwiwer Год назад

The supertuck is actually quite safe, the reason it was banned was more to do with carbon top tubes not liking being sat on.

@prestachuck2867 Год назад

A lot of cracked plastic frames, and if you submit a carbon frame for warranty with a cracked top tube, every manufacturer will declare it as warranty voided/no warranty, you just have to purchase a new one.

@kyle_c936 Год назад

That's interesting, I didn't know that. Of course, the layup on a carbon frame is strategic - they only give each section of the frame as much or as little strength as it needs, to save weight, and no way would they factor in the weight of the rider on the top tube! It's even the same principle with high-end steel frames - the top tube is butted, ~6mm at the ends down to ~0.3mm along the centre of the top tube, which is why it's easy to dent the top tube of a high-end steel frame.

@henseleric Год назад

What are the statistics of pro's snapping frames in this position? One? I've used the supertuck since 2008, and have never heard of a snapped frame because of it.

@SendingStache Год назад

Very impressive riding, Hank!

@klemenremic3336 Год назад

It shouldn't be called the Chris Froome position. If anything, it should be called the "Matej Mohoric" position, who invented and perfected the aero tuck years before Froome

@kriss3492 Год назад

Exactly!!

@choosy3 Год назад

angleži k angleži... k da so že kej svojga pogruntal ;)

@incurseio Год назад

May I know what place this is? I always love it when I see this background on your videos, it's quite breathtaking!

@SergioCristancho Год назад

4:09 migth be right to say Matej Mohoric was the proper innovator that introduce the supertuck and even he can recall he is not the original one, but well fame and fortune give everything to froomey

@tristenwilliams1943 Год назад

I had aero bars on my road bike for quite a while and I loved bombing down hills with them. If your willing/able to take a few scary fast corners without the brakes, it’s epic. I would do a sort of half pantani position while gripping the aero bars. And it feels like your legit flying

@runningwithsimon Год назад

Now that I know it's called PuppyPaws, I'm much more likely to use it! I've been doing it on my MTB (flat bar) on flats and moderate (paved) downhills. It feels very safe if only used in proper context (similar to TT bars). E.g., I wouldn't do it while drafting behind someone ...

@simedinson984 Год назад

yea i do it when i am out alone and i have a massive headwind makes it a bit more doable

@cb6866 Год назад

MANNNnnnnnn ....the background !!!!! Where was the opening shot ? Thank you Hank and crew... wow dude

@geoffreyhoney122 Год назад

OMG!! Hank, you ARE superman! Getting through all those positions whilst descending!! Loved the video and don't worry, you won't be seeing me doing that stuff. What's next? BMX trick bike video like Danny Mac Askill? Super content! Super video! And hope you are not super sore!

@andomare 9 дней назад

I switch handlebars quite regularly on my fixed gear, and puppy paws is my aero position when using riser bars instead of drops

@catrap5287 Год назад

imagine what the drivers passing him are thinking

@SaintGerbilUK Год назад

Looking forward to seeing the outtakes...

@alexguir903 Год назад

As a kid I rode what I would call the “front basket position”. My friend rode the bike, pedaling, while I rode on the handle bar of that same bike on the same ride on an old shwinn kids bike zooming on a long steep downhill. The experience was so exhilarating it is still fresh and clear in my mind. Needless to say, I lived, miraculously!

@Rob-fx2dw Год назад

Yep I used to do just that - ride on the handlebars or sideways the bar which were both very bumpy to let us both get on the one bike.

@jakubholik90 Год назад

The reasons to play videos with Hank are always getting better!!

@askmeaboutmattweiner Год назад

Any chance you guys are planning on switching to 4K content for youtube? I'd love to enjoy the channel on the big screen!

@KenSmith-bv4si Год назад

Deer gawd Hank you almost scared the poop outta me. Thou like a train wreck I couldn't look away, you're awesome dude.

@johnbeaver3911 Год назад

I am sure some of us will try some of these actions by themselves after watching this video. For me, I am happy to see Hank demonstrating these dangerous actions so that I don't have to try.

@0xsergy Год назад

My seat is already at minimum height, i literally cant do these positions lol

@declanfaughey8471 Год назад

I just love descending on the drops head down, my fastest ever speed I got down the east descent of mount Leinster was 95KPH, it was a rush, Just didn't tell the wife about the speed part.

@autoracerboy Год назад

I wonder when the pros are going to start going for dropper posts? Still on the saddle, hands on the brakes, feet on the pedals, but super tuck! MTB droppers are a weight penalty of about 300-400g. But something slimmer and not needing to be a beefy for the road might be 200g or so. It’s not like some of those UCI bikes don’t need added weight to make the legal 6.8kg anyhow.

@hateferd Год назад

It will probably come, sooner or later. My guess is that it still brings an aero disadvantage when not used, considering all(?) dropper post are round.

@autoracerboy Год назад

@@hateferd I don’t think that’s gonna be an issue. Modern dropper post actually have an insert cartridge. It works kind of the same as the shocks to lift a hatch on the back of a vehicle. That’s why it’s not such a big issue anymore if you pick up the bike by the seat while the dropper is down. Still shouldn’t do it though. I would imagine for a road bikes they can get it shaped into an air dynamic profile. Might actually be a big benefit to help keep the post from being able to have a turning motion side to side.

@hateferd Год назад

@@autoracerboy An aeroshape with moving parts is stressing the material way more than a round shape. Once they solve that aero dropper post will be on the market.

@casakaiser Год назад

Didn’t Mohoric use one to his advantage earlier this year in Italy, when riding into San Remo?

@pgee70utube Год назад

GCN did do a video comparing super-tuck, dropper post and a straight bum on seat. - i think it was Ollie - the dropper was not as fast as a super-tuck, but is faster than standard. droppers are also very stable on descent because your bum is on the seat. so safer and faster. has appeal if allowed. i do it on my mtb on the road! ;-)

@ddthompson42 Год назад

Puppy paws seems like a no-factor. If you can take both hands off the bars to shove bottles in your jersey, you can rock paws on long straights. Wouldn’t use it on descents, but out front in the break or driving the peleton, it seems no bigger a safety issue than using both hands to strap on a musette in the feed zone. Obviously you can’t ban no-hands riding because riders need to grab bags, bottles, remove jackets, etc,

@kyle_c936 Год назад

All of what you've written makes perfect sense (maybe a bit too much sense for the UCI!) but there's just one situation where it could cause a crash and, if it happens in front of a group, a pile-up, and that's when a rider in the puppy paws position hits a pot-hole and loses their balance to the point where they go down, which I think is why it was banned (even though I don't know if that ever actually happened). Ok that's a bit tenuous and it could still happen when doing the other things you've listed, of course, but these things are things you have to do and puppy paws isn't. Marianne Vos being disqualified for all of three seconds of it on Sunday seems ridiculous, though - the punishment surely didn't fit the 'crime'.

@ddthompson42 Год назад

@@kyle_c936 That’s a good point; the speed bump crash does kind of make the point that even pros can make simple but impactful mistakes. No doubt on the Vos situation; she immediately recognized the fault and corrected herself. Very harsh penalty, and so poorly timed! Back to the paws: yes, someone out front hitting a pothole, rock, or a fan holding a sign 😁 could cause a pile-up.

@kyle_c936 Год назад

@@ddthompson42 Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking of the speed bumps! And right enough, even a rock that the rider might have steered around otherwise, and of course they can't really steer when they're in that position so they can't avoid stuff - I'd never thought of that aspect of it. Still stretching it, and these situations are unlikely ever to arise, but anyway, maybe the commissaires in Norway should have been allowed to use a bit more discretion with Vos - I think maybe they felt their hands were tied.

@duncanhamilton5841 Год назад

I use puppy paws to cope with the coastal headwinds on my S bar (flat) Brompton commute. Its surprisingly comfortable, and no effect on stability - you essentially steer and shock absorb with your forearms and shoulders. Arms contact with the bars just in front of the elbows. Also means I can get forward on the saddle and get a really fluid powerful rhythm going. Looks bloody daft on a Brompton, but then that's only marginal gain over the riding a Brompton normally look

@Hawky2947 Год назад

Some of us know you just wanted to ride those banned positions. :D

@ethangodridge6833 Год назад

Perfect timing given the Vos saga.

@kyle_c936 Год назад

Same as with Simon a couple weeks ago showing how to brake hard after Frain torpedoed Cavalli and Spratty in the TdFF.

@sasquatchhimself Год назад

I'm a reckless mountain biker and even I was extremely nervous watching this

@jamessmithson-br7rm 4 месяца назад

I’m not really into cycling, but this man deserved the watch and comment for risking his own safety to demonstrate banned moves 😂

@ibegeebee Год назад

I use the Pantani position to shed speed, braking hard but keeping the weight over the back for grip and stop it kicking up. Added benefit that any cars behind you have a clear signal you’re slowing/stopping. Has anyone been DQ’d for it? I don’t agree with the ban on puppy paws: yes, your hands are away from the brakes but by that logic you should ban TT bikes. You’d only do it on the flat and when you’re on your own or on the front anyway

@laurentitolledo1838 Год назад

Sorry I cannot descend that fast on my bike INSIDE my home.....😂

@invisiblescout6335 Год назад

If you wanna attribute the supertuck to a pro rider do it to Mohorič who did it better and 3 years earlier winning U23 world champs

@aleszverca Год назад

Was riding my decents in the supertuck position years before Mohorič was even siting on a bycicle.

@invisiblescout6335 Год назад

@@aleszverca did you do it in a professional race?

@aleszverca Год назад

@@invisiblescout6335 That doesn't really matter, as said I am old enough to be his father and was using the super tuck way back, just saying it wasn't invented by Moho just like it's portrayed in the media...not saying he is a bad rider, he is my fellow countryman. The thing is he just used is first among the racers, maybe he saw me do it somewhere here in Slovenia, maybe not, smart as he is probably he realized about the advantages him self ✌ peace out.

@jamieryall8341 Год назад

Wow, great video. The Superman doesn't seem like one everyone could do.

@AlFrEDo-EllIs Год назад

To see him pull these off is incredible because not even Hank can make these look easy🫣

@willmc4403 Год назад

Amazing that Hank seems pretty happy with the control in the Superman position, but is so unhappy with "puppy paws". I get that he can't cover the brakes, but still!

@andrewmcalister3462 Год назад

It's not just about covering the brakes, it is also about no firm leverage or grip with the handlebars.

@willmc4403 Год назад

@@andrewmcalister3462 yeah, but still! In the puppy paws position it's pretty easy to get your hands to the hoods and be in a normal riding position, whereas in the superman position Hank seems pretty stuck there

@SpicyTrifongo Год назад

@@willmc4403 agreed. if you have any amount of core strength you should be able to control the bike with your legs and your core for anything other than cornering and braking. potholes/root bumps on trails do suck in that position however.

@krux02 Год назад

thanks for putting the thumbnail position first. I feel respected

@ANTHONYBOOTH Год назад

I fitted extra bullbars with duplicate brakes to do 'puppy paws' ...also did 'laid back' bars for slow cruizin with a bike trailer full of beer....

@wadeintonature2975 11 месяцев назад

One of the best parts about these videos is the background.

@danvers34 Год назад

UCI is pretty much banning anything that gives you an advantage

@WaqManVR Год назад

That Superman one would be amazing with a cape!

@Colynn9 9 месяцев назад

I use a 'DropPost' on my mountain bike, which lowers the seat to any preferred height with a thumb lever. Admittedly, this could pose a slight weight penalty in a race, but the advantage is won back by its versatility, especially on trails with steep descents where it even allows moving your centre of gravity behind the seat. I also grip the bars near the centre-post, tuck in my elbow and knees to the centreline, and dip my head down on straightaways. Whoosh!

@jm_sc Год назад

5:35 haha I often start like that from a resting position after stopping for the red lights, didn't know I was a UCI's rules breaker

@jdhathrisen Год назад

Loved the superman, GCN meets Jackass

@tylerh5435 Год назад

Where was this filmed? Beautiful location

@bobfred9360 Год назад

respect to the cameraman for doing all of these positions backwards while filming

@mimikyulorders2611 Год назад

1:02 those people were so confused at what they just witnessed

@esenel92 Год назад

"Must be one of those E-bikes gone haywire trying to race off without him." 😂

@kyle_c936 Год назад

The funny thing I found was that they didn't even appear to notice - I was expecting the guy's head to swivel, but no. Maybe there was a delayed reaction, though - maybe the guy stopped whatever he was doing and said to his pal, "Did you just see what I just saw?" "What?" "A guy... flying... on a bike..." "Don't think so. You've been up in these mountains for too long, pal."

@kyle_c936 Год назад

I've got bar ends (not) to either side of the stem of my flat-bar hybrid. They cut down your frontal area into the wind, especially if you get down low. Wouldn't try that on a descent, though, and if I've got panniers on the rear and there's a crosswind it's a bit sketchy on any kind of downslope.

@256shadesofgrey Год назад

The Pantani actually looks very safe. That's basically the normal MTB position for going steep downhill. The only difference is, the saddle would be much lower so that it doesn't hit you when you hit a big rock or a root. The big advantage is, your weight is very far back, so you can hit the brakes harder without going over the bars, which in a racing scenario means you can hit the brakes later, giving you a few split seconds advantage on every turn, even if we ignore the aerodynamic advantage.

@alessandropinto5204 Год назад

Imagine being on the Pantani position, then a road bump happens to find its way under your wheels. Imagine you then slide towards the rear wheel, your balls touching the rapidly spinning tire and jamming into the seatstay bridge and suddenly becoming a makeshift emergency brake.

@kerbodynamicx472 Год назад

I always wondered how guys were able to do the superman position, although the gals should have no problem. I tried it once, ouch... I'm not having kids in the future for sure

@chicagoan Год назад

The seat goes on your belly, not groin. Any gender can do it!

@Nimrod336 Год назад

The background is beautiful

@billcodey1430 Год назад

Hanks dad needs to tell him to stop that stuff.

@gcn Год назад

Hank made us promise not to show his dad. Not sure he understands how "filming a video and putting it on the internet" works

@a64738 Год назад

That nr 2 technique leaning behind the seat is the same you have to do when going down a steep hill on a mountain bike to avoid going over the steering when breaking so it is actually safer when off-roading then having you butt on the saddle going downhill...

@bossg2817 Год назад

Hank deserve a raise for this! lol

@Schradermusic Год назад

It's a shame that you credited the 'Supertuck' to Chris Froome, when Mohorič was actually the first one doing it.

@patty109109 11 месяцев назад

I just realized I do puppy paws all the time. The main thing about it is I have to be extremely confident the road is smooth because it's potentially very easy to pop my elbows off and that's not good. Only on straights. People say pantani is used on MTB. I was always too scared for that, but with all the newer bikes having dropper seats I think it would be a great deal safer than it was.

@danielloftus9944 Год назад

straight in with the superman!

@GrumpyOldMan70 Год назад

You sound like you have a bit of a cold Hank, if so I hope you get well soon. Hard working man!

@johngannon1 Год назад

Well - I’ve lived to hear Hank say “that’s too dangerous”! 😮

@edwardsihler Год назад

Question, does GCN prepare and obituary for Hank makes one of these videos or there just a generic "Died while attempting another daring effort" ?

@pakelly99 Год назад

Was waiting for reference to the risk of cracking the top tube while rocking the chris froome position. Some risk at least, surely? Similarly, as someone who used to mountain bike in my younger years, locating one’s centre of mass as far back over the back wheel as possible, is indeed an option I call for, particularly on the steepest descents, where not too feels like risking going over the handlebars. I do often wonder while doing so however…perhaps a narrower saddle (as unfashionable a proposition it may seem to be, it is) might allow a safer ride, allowing one to “sit“ back over the back axle, and then back to sat on the saddle, without the firm rub of inner thighs against the saddle edges. I ride a fizik aliante and do wonder if this is a factor for why some (continue to) ride fizik arione. Consequently, it does give me cause for pausing before dropping the significant wedge of cash associated with the similarly (or wider) fizik and specialized 3d printed, luxuriously comfortable saddles, currently very much de rigeur.

@0xsergy Год назад

A dropper post is best i think for this, allows you to safely adjust your aero profile as well as to relieve joint strain. And a longer seat as you hinted might be an idea.

@martinr2511 Год назад

Urs Zimmermann was using that descending position years before Pantani was even a pro. (see the 86 tour)

@tohidnikkhah Год назад

Supertuck is my favorite. I even use it when I'm riding my MTB on tarmac/asphalt. But I'm not sure if it's safe for those riders who are heavier than 75 kilograms. Cause it puts some extra pressure on the handlebar and also fork.

@angelinabouhatoum8786 Год назад

GCN I LOVE U GUYSSSSDDS

@domesticatedonkey4296 Год назад

I lost my big toe

@samc3769 Год назад

I do "puppy paws" on flats alot esspecially to counter head winds.

@ibnuzzaki9859 Год назад

Well the thumbnail was so on point cause if you're trying these, you won't be able to do them at home

@innesdunbar Год назад

Nice bike handling there Hank.

@TheOGSpaceGhost Год назад

Performed by a cycling professional.....guess that is why Ollie is not in the episode. Thanks for the heads up on that item Manon!

@mrsmith4662 Год назад

Really interesting (and uncomfortable). I'm surprised that the 'superman' position could be held for more than about 5 seconds. Great scenery.

@J0uzer Год назад

It’s really not THAT bad but the real problem Hank failed to mention is it’s quite difficult to get back from a superman.. so down you go xD

@kgc20goober Год назад

Love to see how this could be done at home to be honest

@katiel7166 Год назад

Ah, I see we've gone back to trying to kill Hank

@Samwell314 Год назад

tune in next week... Hank goes shopping for new bib shorts!

@jonathansaunders7138 Год назад

I guess I’m riding puppy paws when I fly by you on beach drive!

@cirno66 Год назад

I used to ride in the puppy paws position on a granny bike with a coaster brake. It's still not safe but way more manageable.

@BenKickert Год назад

I want to see the pros with dropper posts. Seems like a perfect compromise between safety and allowing more aero position.

@prestachuck2867 Год назад

It worked at Milan-SanRemo this year.

@kyle_c936 Год назад

Yeah, when you think about it, the 'correct' saddle height only works when you're pedalling - when you're cornering or descending it's effectively far too high.

@kees2906 Год назад

In the past, I'd put both hands in the middle of the handlebar, feet unclipped and on the crankset and tuck my head so low that I'd have to see the road through my visor holes. I could follow road bikes on my MTB in descent with that position.

@91Redmist Год назад

Going full crazy: Superman AND Puppy Paws combo position(!)

@gcn Год назад

Please don't 😅

@jeroenimus7528 Год назад

That's why recumbents are pretty handy. You'd still have the control AND the aerodynamics.

@jovaraszigmantas Год назад

The area looks somewhat north of insbruck, where did you actually film?

@rah4981 Год назад

Superman position, I wil never try that, but hilarious to watch, lol 😂😂

@kennethmccoy2991 Год назад

As teenagers Going downhill on a bmx, me sitting on the handlebars, my brother on the saddle and a friend squeezed in the middle. Can’t remember how it happened but the there was a lot of blood a lot of road rash and not very happy parents…good times

@extravaganza69 Год назад

Amazing views:)

@DaaanG73 Год назад

Has anyone used the puppy paws position for descending? I can only recall ever seeing it on the flats as a pseudo-TT position.

@gcn Год назад

Only on long straight/gradual sections of descents, we just thought it would be funny to make hank try it anyway

@ralzalychhoeng7893 Год назад

I held my breath for a record amount of time. 7 minutes and 33 seconds to be exact.

@DaveCM Год назад

The thing about those positions is that I think they are only faster on long straight descents or ones with big sweeping bends you don't have to slow much. Because on ones like you are on or tighter, you get up really fast and have to brake hard for corners and then accelerate to do it over again. Not being on the saddle and in the best position for braking and the best handling would negate any speed advantage gained from the position. I just came back from a gran fondo and there was no opportunity to really exploit the Froome or others. The corners came up too quickly.

@henseleric Год назад

Watch someone like Sagan smoothly move from the supertuck, to the Nibali, even in rapid succession. It just takes practice.