I wouldn't say unique, I mean, the Foamasi basically did everything that the Slitheen did in 1980. Honestly I'd prefer to see the Foamasi back, since the Slitheen have the farting, the fat jokes and the fact that most of the public will always remember them as 'the farting aliens' and not take them seriously
Let's be honest. Everyone and their gran watched doctor who when RTD was showrunner. It was fun, action packed and easy to follow. Moffat killed the show off by over complicating the plots and the show was no longer accessible to everyone. Chibnall has just put the nail in the coffin
Sometimes you don't know what you've got until it's gone. I don't think it'd be a good idea for him to return but would love to see the odd episode here and there, giving his spin on the Doctor the way RTD did with Smith once.
I really want a Weeping Angle story not written by Moffat, just to see what someone else could do with them. I think it'd be cool and interesting to see what a fresh mind could do with them.
Szab M it always makes me mad that in Moffat’s era stuff got said that was basically pretending the cult never existed. All that crap about “No such thing as a good Dalek” and “Nothing has ever been half Dalek” like excuse you. To see the fact they even existed acknowledged again even in a passing comment would be wonderful
N3RDYG0GGLES After Victory, it was very hard to understand what happened. The Para Daleks escaped, and did something, that brought back the RTD Daleks, for reasons, and now all we know is, that there's a Dalek empire somewhere, and does some stuffs for reasons.
Definetely. Honestly I don't get why it's always just The Master, there are so many other villainous Time Lords, and the Eleven is probably the only one who is even crazier than the Master.
I think my favorite of those ideas has to be seeing an episode set during the Silurian’s time ruling earth. And as Chibnall wrote 2 Silurian stories during Moffat era there’s a chance he has an affinity for them.
Tarponpet Secord where? The original episode specifically has the Doctor day they’re from the Eocene era, that’s between 56 and 34 million years ago, so they’re at least ten million years after dinosaurs went extinct
@@BattlestarZenobia Dinosaurs on a spaceship. A silurian space arc full of dinosaurs. Deep breath, madam vastra says she's seen tyrannosaurs as a child.
the weeping angels got a few stories and I think it was pretty well proven only their first appearance worked. They had to play with the rules to keep it interesting, and IMO they failed. The first episode with them was amazing, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have a lot of potential for future stories.
The Rani really should have come back as the villain instead of Missy. I don't get the point in changing a male character's gender for female representation when you have the option to expand an already existing female character for representation. In the same vain, give us a Romana spin-off rather than making the Doctor female.
@@boiwifeyasmr4U yes and that's why I want to see him back. Or a version back. It could be seen as a rehash of the same storyline but you could externalise him if you can't make him interesting. I say him because if it were to happen I would like him to be played Matt Smith. I feel like this would be a reminder to The Doctor of the darkness that resides within him/her whilst also being a reminder of who they previously were. Plus Matt Smith playing a bad guy is soooo entertaining
The dreamlord was such an amazing character I wish they didnt have to boil it down to 'hallucenagenic space pollen' because a character that personified all of the doctors worst traits was such a good idea
See I want a villain like from “Doctor who: prisoners of time” a villain that the doctor had impacted and left after “saving” the day but also causing destruction to this characters life. A villain who plotted and schemes a vast plan to destroy the doctor and make him suffer, one you never see cominb
I’m gonna bend my list a little and do a top 10 because there are so many classic villains I love. 10. The Mara Snake 9. The Vashta Nerada 8. The Weeping Angels (as long as they’re treated in a good story) 7. The Valeyard 6. The Sea Devils 5. Axons 4. The Macra 3. The Krynoids 2. Sutekh 1.Haemovores
what i find interesting is you say you say the weeping angel as long they're treated well but your fine for the Mara snake and the krynoid being aplolute trash
Time lord villains are always great, I love the master but the master being basically the only evil time lord in new who is boring, I really want to see the monk as he is a very funny villain but he is still a threat so we could get a fun 2 parter out of him or maybe a season arc.
with the reapers, they are actually described as a "bacteria" in the episode, which more take advantage of paradoxes. They do not exist in EVERY paradox
weren't they described as the time vortex equivalent of antibodies defending AGAINST "bacteria"? They cauterize the wound on the fabric of time that is the paradox by killing everything in it. It's been a long time since i've seen that episode, but that's how i remember it.
If nothing else, Jodie must face off with the Daleks at some point. I trust this production crew to handle the Daleks well. Maybe the Cybermen? But the Daleks at least once.
Trenton Bless to be fair I’ll be super surprised if she doesn’t, because in order to keep the rights to the Daleks, they HAVE to appear at least once per season.
@@N3RDYG0GGLES I don't think that's entirely true. I think the fans came up with it because the Daleks have appeared in every series. I used to think the same way.
The Trickster from SJA should return. He’s literally one of thee most iconic villains (for most of the younger generation) in the doctor who universe. He gets so overlooked and I think he would be amazing if reintroduced correctly...
If we’re talking Nu Who monsters, I’ve always wanted to see the Krillitanes from “School Reunion” return. I love the idea that they’re conquerors that take on the traits and characteristics of every civilization they conquer, and I’ve always felt that it’s been a missed opportunity that they haven’t come back. And the fact that they take on the traits of the civilizations they conquer can easily allow the design team to give them a new, revamped design the next time they appear
i personally feel that instead of having a dalek story every season they should just have a few per doctor so that when the doctor encounters them it feels like an event. i also think the best dalek stories are the ones that have a new approach. this sort of goes for most returning villains in doctor who now that i think of it.
Arcade I think there was some sort of copyright issue where the new series (from 2005) was only allowed to use the Daleks if they used them every series.
@@skytalon9163 That's what I've concluded. They even had to have them in Tennant's year off. I can't remember now how they did it, but there was a token appearance in one of the specials that year.
@@paulkennedy8701 it was in the episode waters of mars where a dalek spares Adelaide as a child and she decides to join a space team in the hopes of finding out why
@@skytalon9163 Ah. Yes. Thank you. And that's what convinced me that this rule exists. They have to include the Daleks every year. It's a pointless and gratuitous inclusion otherwise. If we don't see such a thing this year we'll know that they've managed to get out of it. (Maybe they've just decided to do without them and are prepared to start negotiations again if they want to use them later.)
Paul Kennedy it is quite contested whether this rule applies. I believe it myself, but the Waters of Mars cameo actually felt very natural to me. It’s a genius link and was a nice fit. The daleks in The Wedding of River Song and The Pilot on the other hand? THOSE felt forced.
What's wrong with some new IP's? I know it's good if the Doctor interacts with the Daleks and such, but really it just seems pompous if they keep on being so self-referential. And who knows, maybe they'll create another villain that stands the test of time. I just think it's narrow minded not to want a season full of new IP's.
Honestly, the daleks should be in every season, they will always be the enemy that the doctor can’t beat forever, sure it can beat them temporarily, but I mean that part of the doctor full of guilt from the time war will always be there to be ignited by the daleks and only the daleks
Nothing is wrong with that, but there are a ton of classic villains that could have more done with them. I'm fine with not doing any of the more common ones for a while, but bringing back a 30 or 40 years old villain can be fun, and I really liked them doing that in earlier seasons. So far, the new season's monsters have been just so forgettable.
There's always Season 12 for reoccurring villains and monsters but I personally welcome Season 11's approach because it's a bit more creatively fresh than recycling old monsters and villains I've either seen enough of or really don't care about.
Um no Season and Series are literally interchangeable as they both denote a 'batch' of episodes in a programme with Season merely being replaced with the word Series in the UK. If you want to get all picky with me you might as well call Season 11 by it's real name i.e. Season 37.
@@benwelsh5265 Well as far as I'm concerned series 11 is the first series of a spinoff show called "Doctor Woke" and Capaldi is still in the TARDIS with awesome space liquid lesbian Bill.
Is it just me who wants the empty child back? I mean... the ending of the episode “The Doctor dances” was cheesy, BUT had a happy wholesome vibe! I’d die to see them on screen again. The concept of a contagious, one touch physical disease which made a physical skin-fused gas mask and scar was epic!!
The universe is such a vast place, I wish we could get a sense of its scale by a) not setting nearly every episode on Earth and b) running into strange new things instead of "so we meet again" every five minutes.
My unpopular idea: Bring back the Toclafane. Allow them time travel, but maybe not much control. They are Dalek or Cyberman ish - but not in personality. The Cybermen are unemotional, but (often) believe they are working for the good of people - upgrading them. The Daleks are cruel and unemotional. They work for themselves, as they are superior, the only ones who matter. Both groups are totalitarian, the Daleks are clearly Nazis, the Cybermen feel more like the Soviets to me. The Toclafane are emotional, the Toclafane are childish. The Toclafane are cruel for the fun of it, chaotic, insane. They are not totalitarian. They are Humans - the doctors favourites, and our future. Like the Cybermen, but even more so. Not just similar a to us, but us. The Doctor's guilt. He didn't save them. Every human companion told that would have a massive emotional reaction. They are survivors. Literally, everything else is gone in their time (except Me?). Also - without a paradox machine, they cannot kill humans without risking the grandfather paradox. Without risking themselves. Make this into a quasi-religion. Maybe individuals (as in break them slightly from the hive, so they are hives but with individuals as part of it - like a hive with multiple personalities perhaps? Or impulse control problems?), can occasionally do the wrong thing and kill a human - risking them all, so they kill that one. They also know the doctor has a Tardis. He can build a paradox machine, or help them in some other way. They can worship him, but never understanding that he wants them to be good. They are past understanding that..... Looks wise they are good. They can definitely be scary. A little update is all that is needed. They are similar enough to Daleks/Cybermen to feel like a classic doctor who villain, but different enough to go a totally different direction. Since they are named after a Gallifreyan fairy tale monster, it would also be interesting to see them meet the time lords.
I'd love to see the Boneless, Omega, Vashta Nerada, and the Valeyard. They all seemed to give the Doctor real problems. I'd like the Daleks to get a major re-write, either Cult of Skaro. But they seem to have definitive endings, personally, I'd love to see CGI Daleks whose panels split becoming like spider legs, allowing them to walk, or move through smaller spaces (cramped ducts). The creepy sound of their scuttling approach sending chills down the viewers spine. Like 'The End of the World', but louder, scarier. We already have Dalek Variants, so adding these to the mix would bring back a degree of unsettling fear to their (somewhat lacklustre) menace.
RTD's era has so many instantly recognisable aliens; Slitheen, Grask, Sycorax, Ood, Judoon, Hath, Adipose. These were perfect when building one of those scenes where all of the aliens appear in the background. But what aliens could have appeared in a scene like this from Moffat's era?...
Moffat's monsters mostly served story purposes. He had great ideas for villains, whilst RTD was really good at making that year's merchandising icon. Made some fun, colourful enemies in the process.
Agreed. Some people complain about some of the creatures looking goofy or disgusting but 1) I disagree for most of them and 2) Doctor Who was never meant to be 100% badass and serious with only pretty people in it.
I'm glad they got a bit of a break, but I'd like to see another weeping angel episode soon. Not using then while Twelve was blind was a huge missed opportunity
But really; I would love to see the Slitheen return. Maybe have a beloved supporting character who we get to know througout the course of the series then turn out to be a Slitheen. Maybe even have it be the main companion. If done right, that could be as crushing as Doomsday. Go nuts with the Slitheen, have them do a full secret invasion thing. I wouldn’t mind them being the plot of the whole series. Doctor Who: The Slitheen Invasion. Perhaps you could have the audience question if The Doctor himself is a Slitheen. (Now I just realized that Rose suspected the 10th Doctor of being Slitheen after he first regenerated).
IDEA!!! The trickster from SJA. Think about it. Doctor finds a place where time's gone weird, finds Trickster, decides to go get help from Sarah Jane. Finds out about her death so Luke (maybe Clyde or one of the girls from the show, can't remember names) goes with instead. Think of the chances that this could have. The trickster trying to bribe Luke, Clyde, and The Doctor with bringing her back, getting to see some well liked faces from SJA, the Doctor getting to mourn one of his longest and best friends, Tell me I'm not the only one who sees the potential!
Great list mate. The villains I'd love to see return to Doctor Who are The Daleks of course, The Cybermen, The Slitheen and other family members from their home planet, The Sycorax, The Judoon and The Sontarans. Also it would be a nice idea for The Daleks to create a new Cult of Skaro. P.S. what is the name of the music used when you talk about The Cult of Skaro? Just curious.
The Day of the Vashta nerada story with the 8th Doctor thoroughly convinced me out of them ever returning to the main series but please please give us old Sontarans, Boneless and the Flood. (I love Reapers and have wanted them back since 2006, but feel their time has passed as Moffat did paradoxes on the weekly)
Never really took it in before… when Sek grabs that bloke, he basically eats him whole but somehow after that he gets the suit off and back on after the merging of their 2 bodies
Actually, I thought about this a while ago, but even though they say: Reapers appear to "fix stitches in time", that's a half truth imo. Reapers appeared at least twice in Doctor Who lore and the events included stuff like ACTUALLY changing fixed points in time, like Grandfather paradoxes. That's why Reapers don't appear often. Reapers are like the agents of temporal apoptosis (just like in cell apoptosis). Like in programmed cell death, they keep cutting the bad sequences, until the universe just gives up and dies. The funny thing is: a big chunk of Moffat's run didn't actually change events, just what the universe perceives as fact. We all know facts and prophecies in Doctor Who tend to have hidden stuff in-between that we don't fully know and those things often tend to fix one another, like the 11th Doctor once mentioned. Even the solutions to those problems might have hidden steps in-between (e.g. Name of the Doctor).
I'm gonna defend the whole "New emperor every time the Daleks show up" Thing. I think that's a very subtle knock against the self-cannibalistic outcome of fascism. This is the same reason I think Davros constantly coming back is bad thematically for the Daleks. The concept of a "Master Race" is so flexible, and can change from person-to-person, that it only makes sense 4 screaming bois decided "Fuck you guys, I'm gonna go make my own Master Race, with black jack and hookers!"
I've always had a plot idea surrounding the Silurians, Sea Devils and the Ice Warriors. I'm going to go all fan fiction here, but hear me out: So imagine that the Ice Warriors lived on a roaming Rogue-Dwarf Planet, not attached to a solar system. Their planet gets pulled into orbit around the Earth and becomes the Moon, as in the lore for the Silurians. The Doctor witnesses this at a companion request to see how the Moon came to be. However, the Ice Warriors look at their new host and move down. They awaken the Sea Devils and Silurians and a big old reptile war breaks out. The Doctor does his/her best to prevent the war but in reality, has to move the Ice Warriors to Mars for their safety. It puts the Ice Warriors in all the places we find them through history and explains the Silurians distrust of all outsiders. You just need a bit more for the Doctor to do in the story.
Ok can we just agree we would all like a episode with the weevils where the doctor sends them all back through the rift which would make a lot of people happy because it involves torchwoods “alien mascot” whilst tying up torchwood because it’s never coming back 😭😭 plus we could see Jack one last time 🤷🏻♂️
I think 1. The Rani - Would be a great foil to Jodie's Doctor 2. The Slitheen - I think we haven't seen the last of them but lets meet them away from Earth 3. The Rutans - We may all think Sontarans are a joke now, but we haven't seen much from their foes, a writer could have a free hand 4. Judoon - You are right we really should see these guys return, maybe in the same episode as the Slitheen? 5. Voc Robots - I just love these robots and would like to see more from them
As so many others have said: The Rani. Though maybe not as a villain directly opposing The Doctor. She strikes me as a more amoral Time Lord than a flat out evil one. Long ago, The Doctor said he would come back to check on The Mad Monk. I think its about time. Sutek is long gone but it would be really fun to meet up with the Osirans. Make sure to sneak in that organ music the Egyptian played somewhere.
My five would be: 1. The Dream Lord/The Valeyard (They'll be one and the same since they basically are the same character) 2. The Sea Devils (The villains that will most likely be brought back given Chibnall's love for the Silurians) 3. Sutekh (One of the best Classic Who villains yet one we never saw at his full potential. And Gabriel Woolf, his original voice actor, is still alive!) 4. Omega (The one Time Lord we ALL want to come back) 5. The Trickster (It's a crime that a villain as awesome as the Trickster was never brought into Doctor Who despite facing the Doctor in The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith)
I’d love to see as antagonist for next season. 1. The Meddling Monk 2. Omega 3. The robots from the story Robots of Death. 4. Morbius 5. The Slitheen 6. The cyber-nomads from the Revenge of the Cybermen story.
Just my opinion 1. Omega 2.Rassilon 3.the master/missy 2.0 4 great vampires 5. Absorbaloff as a more menacing big glutinous monster regressed into a savage monster and overlord travelling from each planet. 6.valeyard 7.dalek Caan (maybe not as a villain anymore) 8. Davros without Daleks maybe 9. Cybus cybermen 10. Silurians and sea devils 11. Slitheen 12. Toclafane? I unno
I just want to see the Daleks, Time Lord's and Weeping Angels. Preferably an episode or two with the Time Lord's and Weeping Angles. As we need to have an official cannon origin story for them, In my opinion.
I nice season ark idea is that the doctor defeats a villain who is in his 70s or something in the first episode, and towards the end the doctor defeats a different villain with the help of a nameless person who has memory loss, and then at the end he rember and he is the villain 50 years before he is his evil act. It would just be a way of saying friends become foes and would be AWSOME.
The rani Omega The Other (not coming back as never in it) The monk The dreamlord The valyard The judoon The slitheen The trickster The celestial toymaker
The RANI. Let the Master/Missy rest. Bringing in this 'lost' Time Lady is easy; she slipped out of the Time War Cage piggy-backing her consciousness on The Master & ended up somewhere in a new body (since the great Kate Mara passed away some time ago), doing actual good. Meeting the *new* Doctor starts a chain of events that sees her remember who she was, but no regeneration. The Rani goes after The Doctor to get the secret of her regenerations & pick-up where she left off. The MOVELLANS. Not necessarily a 'villain', these android foes of The Daleks can be just as ruthless; have a lost faction be reprogrammed or malfunctioning, blaming the Time Lords for their starting the Time War, which is causing their eventual extinction.
Personally id love to see the Valeyard come back but with a twist, being alternate 11 instead. Say in the alternate universe that Rose ended up in with alt-11 she dies in a preventable (but unspectacular) way i.e. hit while crossing the street. Alt-11 goes a mad trying to figure out how to save her thru re-creating the TARDIS or another time machine to go back and save her but instead creates a way to go to the proper universe. By this point he is perhaps older as he is half human and cant regenerate he figures if he could steal a TARDIS and the Doctor's regenerations he could then save Rose thus justifying his madness to himself.
Everyone’s sick of daleks? Who are these people? Real fans of who want daleks... after all they are the main enemy of the doctor, they need to be in every series, and they pretty much have been since the very start... as they say don’t change a working system. It’s been going for well over 50 years for a reason, and that’s cus you can’t beat the space dustbins lol
If they bought back the cult of skaro I think it would have to be like genesis of the Daleks but how the cult were created, sounds daft but think that would be the only way
With S12, I hope they focus a bit more on some deep-cut characters and ideas and expand upon them more. For example, I was watching The Leisure Hive the other day and thought how great it would be if they did a sequel to that episode, with a better plot, SFX and sets/costumes.
I'd like to see Omega & the Valeyard together, maybe building up to Omega's dreaded return only the real villain (seeming to be a mere underling) being exposed as the Doctor's evil incarnation and Omega & the Doctor teaming up to stop him from erasing time itself (or something like that)... another villain I'd like to see is (not a, but the) original 'Black Dalek'/ the Dalek Supreme... The Doctor's oldest and most feared recurring enemy (next to the Daleks themselves)
I’d love to see an ancient Silurian vs ice warrior war, your telling me that species like that haven’t butted heads ? Ice warriors were well warriors conqueres even like c’mon, also good good list your absolutely right about villains coming back like that it really does stich the doctors together, and omega is cool but I’d really love to see more of the valeyard, he’s just such an intriguing figure to me
It'd be cool if the Doctor stranded in a parallel universe again by accident and found himself in a world where the Cult of Skaro survived but Dalek Sec instead of feeling Humanity as a Human Dalek, still was a Dalek at "heart" and now the Doctor has to fight new Daleks with new Weaknesses, some that she doesn't even remember cause it happend a long time ago, or her memories are blurry because she associates the Cult with Companions or Allies that she lost throughout her previous adventures, wether that was willingy or otherwise.
Ribttes A nice idea, especially as it’s Dalek Sec’s surge of humanity that saved the Doctor in Evolution. Without him, he genuinely wouldn’t have gotten out of that story.
