@@chonkwiz Oh thats cool! I only really know about Dwarfs from the Gortrek & Felix novels and if I remember correctly the only Dwarf slaves in those books are those on the Black Ark. With how stubborn the dwarfs are depicted it always seemed almost impossible to enslave them. But then again Skarsnik is pretty badass =D Im really curious how they even manage that since they have the Slayer cult and rather die than shame themselves or their clan.
Powerful narcotics might be used to make the dwarfs more compliment. It's not just they have dwarf slaves, but they have the armourers, weaponsmiths and engineers enslaved and still doing their old jobs. To keep the operation sustainable, they would need a way of breeding the dwarfs and having them train to become proficient in their craft.
I do have the "uniforms and heraldry of the skaven" book somewhere lots of clans in there.. One I remember is clan Gangrous. They chop off their own claws and replace them with blades...
Clan spittel is my favorite minor skaven clan. They live in lustria and wear lizardman skin as armor. They didn’t really have much beyond that but I think they would be cool to expand upon.
I think something really cool could be done with Clan Sleekit: imagine a mechanic like the World Tree, but they could go to the capitals of various Skaven Clans. Their power wouldn't be in conquering or confederating so much as opening up trade & transport routes to create a true Under-Empire. The more Clans you link, the more power you have, as you would be responsible for coordinating & facilitating the endgame Vermintide. Under-cities would thus be much more important than they are in other Skaven Clans, as they would be your primary means of income & influence. Of course, you'd have your own stuff to deal with: you'd likely have to fight other Underway travellers like Orcs, Dwarves, & Wood Elves, & may need to defend your under-empire against other threats - nameless things gnawing at the deep places of the earth, that sort of thing. As for units, I'd imagine they'd be very stealthy hit-and-run types, maybe using undermining to rock the battlefield, Menace from Below bringing things worse than Skaven slaves, faster withdrawals (maybe even underground rather than off the map borders?) that sort of thing.
I want Skretch Half-Dead as a DLC/FLC for the Vampire Coast. It would be cool if he could recruit a couple of unique units, maybe zombie Skaven pirates (pi-rats? Get it?) with dual weapons and with hand weapons and pistols. While we're on it, give Cylostra the ability to actually recruit Damned Knights Errant as a unit and not just a summon.
I'd probably still prefer mainly a Skaven roster but I do agree that seeing more "hybrid" Legendary Lords would be cool, on top of the variety that allied recruitment already brings.
Clan Skurvy could have a mix of mechanic between vampire coast and skaven mechanics to make them unique and interesting to play, and for Clan Ferrik faction mechanics could increase armor and melee attack and melee defense to units Factionwide, or borrow Clan Skryre's faction mechanic to upgrade weapon teams and war machines or do something similar to greenskins scrap mechanic.
Lol I’m painting so many Skaven lately for our upcoming league I had a dream about painting clanrats. And was pissed when I woke up and realized the progress was imagined.
I wonder if there are Skaven Clans who don't worship the great rat, but maybe one of the four main chaos gods instead or a mix between the horned rat and main chaos influence.
While this may at some point have been disproven, it is believed by some both in universe and from fans that some members of Clan Pestilence are secretly involved with Nurgle.
Besides clan pestilence who gets away with it on a loop hole, most skaven only worship the horned rat. Not because they want to, but because if they don't, he'll chew on their souls for eternity. Don't know if its canon or not, but once heard someone say that if given protection from the horned rat, almost any skaven would turn their back on him
If a choice has to be made then i would choose Ferrik. Dwarf flavored skaven sound dope as hell. They should get slightly unique versions of nearly all units sort of like Draicha. But i guess if any clan will be added it might be Mordkin, but with Tranquill as the leader for the endtime dlcs, thats what i think will happen even if i wish we would get Ferrik.
Shame Clan Volkn never got the spotlight more in the lore or literature. Skaven having obsidian weaponry was always awesome sounding and my favourite minor clan outside of Clan Skurvy (though they’re argurably one of the better known minor clans)
For those who don't know, there are actually mods for a lot of these clans, especially the really cool ones like Ferrik and Skurvy. Don't know if they've been ported to warhammer 3 yet, but they're there in warhammer 2 for anyone who wants to try em.
Thanks for the great video! In the 4th edition, there was Clan Festerlingus. The were known for creating there own new creatures like clan moulder but they combined rats with alligators to create unique "products" to sell to other clans. I liked the idea, because it opened a possible now units range.
Clan Verms sounds AWESOME with such a little backlog of lore too, natural glow worms for lighting and less of a reliance on Rat mutants and Warpstone sounds cool for Skaven too considering most of them if not all rely somewhat on weapons teams and mutants. Giant insects and venomous beasts to mess with genetically could be an awesome concept alone considering the distinct lack of creepy insectoid factions in WH3 we got spiders and mechanical scorpions and thas about it. Throt could have a FIELD day with those bugs so its strange that Moulder would also shun Verms, lorewise anyway, so a ressurgence of Verms working for Moulder and not Pestilence could be an awesome way to re-add them into modern Skavendom. (Although we all know the likely last Skaven DLC will be Verminlord focused and thats IF they even do another Skaven DLC at all so sadly I assume Skaven buggos are out of the question for WH3)
@@theshadowling1 Oh snap, thats actually cool sorry for the lore failures on my part I know nothin about these lesser clans, reckon Moulder could subjugate them theoretically then? Lorewise anyway to fit within WH3
@@dr_yeet9399 I mean, there's subjugate and then there's wipe out. Depends. Basically, in the Black Plague series, Moulder had just created Rat Ogres, and were using them to humiliate Verms in the fighting pit, because as cool as a giant scorpion is, it's not massively good at turning around quickly.
@@theshadowling1 So realistically Moulder are just gonna out-compete and slowly ruin Verms but its possible to see them as a playable faction in WH with that outcome at least. Thanks for the knowledge on my ignorant ass there also yeah big bugs vs augmented super rats I can see the logic to go with the rats
That brought back memories, i think i have the Skaven Heraldry book somewhere. Got to dive it up again. Your video really got me think about it again. Thank you :)
The main thing they need are some clan specific units, that add something to the Skaven army that's missing (Like variety of stormvermin) rather than just being normal units, but with flame attacks for e.g.
If you want skulls, a sprue or two of warlord's skeletons would likely do you good. They can be a bit tricky to build, but those stories are great for bits
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges alternatively, Mantic's Empires of Dust frames would give them a bit of Egyptian flare, but they aren't seeking individual frames at this point.
I really like the style of your video s lately. A lot of lore information that is new to me, combined with your personal view about it. It triggers the imagination, and I love to hear about everything that is Warhammer fantasy related myself. Really fun and good stuff. If it was up to me; keep those video s coming 😁😀
my fav is clan Alpharius, for some reason their like 8 feet tall and wear this strange armour... but like most skaven they like to plot and scheme... they're weirdly all call themselve Alpharius... wish there was more about them but they like to keep as much as posible about them secret...
A little tidbit for clan mordkin: "Mord" is the german noun for "murder". They're basically Clan Murder Family. I'm a basic guy, my favourite are the edgelords of Eshin. Mors is interesting too since they have genuine loyalty among themselves, not just fear and control. I love moldbreakers.
I wonder if it is possible to youse skaven clans in 40k as chaos cults or traitor guard because i want to build more chaos cults and traitor guard armies and the skaven clans have the best colors and lore to make chaos cults or traitor guard armies
I love clan mordkin one of my all time fav lesser clans. There story in the black plague trilogy was really cool and with the fact they eat only rotten flesh. The fact they stood to nagash is super cool tho in the end they get wiped out while Manfred and others are looking for nagash's weapons to revive him. There battle with the necromancer Van hel was a super fun read.
Clan Volkn and Ferrik were done very well in warhammer 2 I did a Volkn run where i sold my services to the dwarves during the end times and helped save the world, sowing my under empire in every city before it was repopulated by mortals
I'm fairly convinced Clan Skurvy is going to be a DLC at some point. Because, well, the short story "All Tunnels lead to Skavenblight" more or less spelled out Thanquol currently employing them! ;) I'm a fan of Skaul myself. Sadly, that one has fallen a bit to the wayside over time. Still, the hedonistic drug dealers with too much (in the eyes of orthodox Skaven) ties to humanity and source of skirmish troops outside Eshin is pretty fun!
There are mods for clan volkn, clan skurvy, clan ferrik in steam workshop. They have unique rosters and monsters. Ferrik even has a rat tank, skurvy has ratcopter.
the real question is when are the mods for some of these factions returning to WH3? Some of my favorite mods for WH2 were the Skurvy, Volkin, and Ferick mods
FWiW, AoS Skaven history adds some interesting nuance which could be back-dated into WHFB lore. Obviously AoS Skaven have the same great clans as before, though formally organized into six; Skryre, Pestilens, Eshin, Moulder, Grey Seers, and Verminus (clanrats/stormvermin/warlords). However these are explicitly stated to be only the SURVIVING great clans, out of an original 13 which were brought to the AoS worlds in the Great Horned Rat's cheek pouches. So that is seven other clans who were once on par with the big four we know... Sparse on details (naturally) but we can put together four of them: -A clan that specialized in messing with time and got obliterated by Sigmar & co for it -A clan that specialized in channeling dead Skaven souls (!) but got themselves killed after 'biting off more than they could chew' so to speak -A clan that specialized in berserkers but was killed in civil war with other great clans -A clan with an unknown specialization that one day decided to make a giant portal, they all hopped in, and vanished
Honestly, Clans Skurvy, Mortkin, Ferrik, and Volkn could all probably have been given at least the same level of love as Mors and Rictus, if not given their own supplimentary lists like the old Pestilens and Eshin lists for example. Like think about it, Skurvy could have had Ship-Rats and Bilge-Vermin instead of Clanrats and Stormvermin, Mortkin could have had units with better morale that gave their enemies morale penalties, Ferrik could have had the beginning of a Skaven Airforce supported by Gromril armored infantry that used stolen Irondrake weapons, and Volkn could have gone all in on the fire and obsidian aspect perhaps even having access to the lore of flame or special weapons for clanrats like obsidian tipped javelins. Ferrik most of all though had the potential to become a Clan Skryre rival in the mad scientist department while rivaling Mors and Rictus in the infantry department. Mixing Dwarf and Skaven tech together just sounds really, really cool.
In AoS there also a few Great Clans comparable to Pestilens and Eshin, up to thirteen plus the Masterclan. They were brought to the Mortal Realms in the Great Horned Rat's mouth, through many clans have been destroyed since then. * Clan Tichritt who used chronomantic weaponry. Destroyed by Sigmar and Order. * Clan Ikk who were savage Skaven. Destroyed by Pestilens and Verminus. * Clan Shrykt vanished into a realmgate in the Realm of Fire.
Hey Nathan, I was going to leave this comment on your Snakemen video, but SOMEONE decided to raid that video, so here it is instead. I know that Naga were canonically chaos aligned, but the thing that worries me about that is that there are places in south east asia where Naga are worshipped as demi-gods and conduits to the divine and the like. I do think it would be wiser to have the Naga as a mix aligned race, but If GW does decide to stick to canon, I hope they will at least add some kind of WH equivalent to the Trang sisters to revolt against the Naga, that way at least the Vietnamese players will be able to get on board,
Raid the video? Was it getting boy spammed?? Also regarding the Naga I could see them as having hints of Chaos but striving out to do their own thing tbh
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges Huh, never mind, I checked the comments section just now and it's fine, must have been something weird with my browser. Yeah, I think it makes sense that some of them fall to chaos, just maybe not wholly chaos aligned.
If they add sea combat like total war shogun, they SHOULD add clan scurvy and give them a rival faction for their DLC. Like Clan Skryer and Cult of Sotek.
Would love to see who would win Nathan Vs. Arch, and see who's ratman raine supreme, table top preference but doubt Nathan would travel to Norway so total war Warhammer would be still awesome
6:23 skaven are based on rats and rats can and do survive in all kinds of environments.... they’re extremely adept at swimming, diving, and holding their breath..... so it makes sense they have strong water fleet.. ...what I’m also curious about is why they don’t more regularly flood dwarf fortresses and just dive into the ruins and steal stuff... literally crawling out of their toilets,
I personally love clan vrrtkin , there a clan skrye aligned clan that love poison wind and gas. there was a great mod for them in warhammer 2 but it sadly has not been ported to 3
I have 2 qeustions. 1. Where is every skaven faction located Every skaven clan we know of 2. What factions live around mortis tarn (because im writing a purple skaven clan based at that location named clan mortnox an the rumor is that nagash left there some warpstone in history so i wanna know as much you can tell me about that location for fluf reasons )
Personally, while I know it won't happen, I would love to see more of the Verity brought into WH3. I would love a DLC which added many of these factions, especially Vulkin, Mordkin, and Ferrik. I personally love Skaven, while I understand that many don't I think that this could also be done with lots of other places as well, for example, the Empire most obviously (and to show that I'm not leaning in on Bias, the Empire is my personal least favorite faction, I think I've only ever played one Gelt campaign and that was it.) I think being able to take a faction, even if it's mostly reskins, and balance it a little different would make for a lot of fun. For instance, for Clan Ferrik you might have a Faction bonus called "Dwarven Forges" which gives better Weapon Damage and Armor to all units which have weapons and armor, and another called "Gromrill Plates" which gives even more armor to Storm Vermin really leading you towards that melee mash. Another thing I would love to see, not just in Skaven but in all races and many factions, is Faction specific units. They would be Campaign specific units that don't make sense for the race as a whole, but add diversity to the specific faction. For instance clan Mors would get Red Guard as a unit class above normal storm vermin, there would likely be a cap on this such as only certain landmark provide a certain number of units of red guard (for instance at the clan mors base of operation, and another at Eight Peaks). Meanwhile Rictus would have Death Vermin, either as a replacement for Storm Vermin, or again as a unique grade above normal storm vermin locked to specific landmarks. This Idea actually comes from what little I played of (I think) SFO in WH2 where I played a Vlad campaign and he had a unique unit tied to a landmark at Drakenhoff, he could only have a couple of them but they were cool and made his army feel unique. not every faction needs to have these units, but I know that there are lots of races where certain factions had access to things or special units that others of there race may not have had access too. for instance you and Sotek often talk about the Culchin riders who are basically skinks riding Terror Birds, but to my knowledge they were really only from southern lustria (I think) so perhaps they have special landmarks in the south of lustria which when held by the lizardmen allow the recruitment of a number of these unique units. It's just an Idea, but I would love to see micro diversity, I don't think every faction needs to have everything for it's race, and in fact, I think that in some cases limiting the roster, or adding a little flair in a certain direction would do a lot of good. Not to mention that many of these things would be very small adds and could be done en masse when updating races. For instance maybe Settra has a special group of honor guard tomb guard who follow him around into battle that make no sense for another tomb kings faction to have, so at khemri he can recruit them from his unique landmark, or in the empire perhaps it doesn't make sense for the empire to have a Jezail type unit outside of Nuln and maybe only a couple, so when the Empire occupies Nuln they can recruit a special gunpouder unit from Nuln specifically, or in south Lustria there are Culchin Fields landmarks where you can recruit culchins for as the Lizardmen. It's just an Idea, but I would love to see it implemented, I think it would add so much replay value, and really differentiate the factions.
Kinda enjoy the minor skaven clans more than major ones sometimes, kinda wish that mod in TWW2 that added 3 of them would show in game 3 already. Sad part about Skaven is the same as Greenskins in that they're so varied and adaptable that they can field uniquely themed armies on their own as subfactions but would be too much content for them vs other races in the end.
We have 3 kinds of elves, 5 flavours of chaos, 2 kinds of dwarves, 2 kinds of vampires, and 5 humans. Greenskins and Skaven really could have been split into at least 2-3 factions. Well... I guess technically beastmen/Skaven are already a split faction. But Goblins and Orcs could easily have been seperate factions (with an army in each that uses troops from the other kind of greenskin).
Are their mods for each of these races 😂 it would be cool for a good mod for each. Andddd clan Volcn will always have a place as my favorite skaven race
With your knowledge of the lore you should work together with modders to bring factions like these skaven clans to live in wh3 please. You could make so many minor factions more unique to play. I dont want to wait for years to get official updates if Modders are far more capable of doing this than the official development team.
7:50 just put ratling gun on a gyrocopter, fuck, put TWO ratling gun on them. You know what, take the gyrobomer, give it two ratlinggun on the side and a warpthrower on the front (and maybeadd a few ratling gun just to be sure)
Okay I love this but the fact you leave out Mors in the major catagory is absolutely INSANE. Queek is in charge one of the actual few Skaven clans that HAS LOYALTY in their warlords, grey seers and so fourth. I'm really sad about this :(
