Niantic making a daily limit of 50 coins per day from gyms and removing legendaries from research boxes were honestly the worst things they could have ever done
It'd be awesome to have more ways to get legendaries and pokecoins. There are many things that could be implemented if they just listened to their fanbase for 5 minutes. All in All these are just strategies to keep the game pay to win
Ahh, I remember the days when research breakthroughs were actually good. I got a shiny moltres out of one once! Also, I think it’s hilarious that as soon as he was done talking about heracross’s shiny release problem, I looked down at my Pokémon go and a heracross had just spawned moments ago lol.
Remember when incenses lasted an hour with a spawn every 2 minutes? And remember you bought a bunch of incenses because of it? And then niantic retroactively nerfed all the incenses you already paid real money for and wouldn’t compensate you?
I still don’t know why they nerfed the amount of coins from gym, probably because they don’t want us to have too much free. I was thinking about it in the car the other day and I’m glad you brought it up
i would rather take easy 50 coins a day then 100 coins completly hardworking coins plus there was always one team superior with training gastly bots nightmare times
It was because back then, people would put their pokemon in out-of-reach gyms so that they could farm coins daily since there wasn't a cap like there is now. You kept getting coins as long as the pokemon remained in the gym receiving 100 coins daily, and they would use powerful pokemon that people couldn't counter (as Mystic said, there was a lot of blissey and that was one of the reasons why) A lot of people abused the system then. Hence why it's now capped at 50 coins and only getting those when your pokemon returned, rather than getting 100 coins a day for defending a gym
Love how you said July 6th 2020 as the release date for Pokemon Go. Dont know if that was a genuine mistake or the fact that the video is all about mistakes?! Good video and loving the content on the streams and RU-vid.
The infuriating thing about pre-2020 weekly research breakthrough legendaries was that their CP's were often low enough to compete in the yet-to-be-a-thing 1500 battle league, if we had saved them. Many players, me included, cleaned out the lower CP legendaries in favor of keeping the higher CP ones.
All old players know they have definitely transferred some good stuff back in the day without knowing it at the time. Don't make me think about it hahahaha
Yup, the only one I have left is raikou on 1500cp I was one of those guys that purified mewtwo as well as I didn’t realise how rare it was back then, it ended up a hundo but I’d rather have the shadow still
Another og player reporting, all of my research breakthrough encounters (mostly consisting of the Gen 3 legendary) were actually all hovering around 1700 CP, so ironically enough I myself wouldn't have been able to use them for great league if it was a thing then. Maybe mine were weather boosted lmao
It’s not even the chance for a shiny that upset me, it was the lack of those legendaries. I get that they want people out and about, but even then it can be hard to get enough people playing to do the T5 raids, especially for the small town player. Even still plenty of people work during raid hour, so a big change I’d like back is rotating legendaries. As far as the gyms/free poke coins…that needs some kind of rework, such as being able to pull a mon out to collect coins or coin limits need to be changed or rolled over..it doesn’t seem right that a bliss’s that has been in a gym for over 3 weeks is only going to net 0-50 coins.
You get 50 coins each day. So for small town players it’s ass because I’ve left Pokémon in small town gyms for like 3 weeks while I traveled and they’d come back 3 weeks later at a time when I’ve got other Pokémon in gyms and only get the 50 coins. Adversely. In a city or busy town if your Pokémon are constantly getting knocked out you can still earn coins for the day. Overall. You’re right. It needs a rework. Either more coins per day or more ways to earn coins.
yup u r so rite!! I would love to see legendaries back in breakthough quests. Living in a small town is very difficult with only one gym in the area and only a couple of players playing.
If the game means so much to you, then leave your small town for a little bit. I live in a small town in Florida(pop.-1000) and I just ride to one of two big cities around me to play sometimes when I'm not working. I understand if transportation is an issue tho...
Me, I totally loathe it when I get more than one Pokemon knocked out during the same day. So I can have something in a gym for like a week, but if I already got 50 coins by the time it gets kicked out, I'm SOL. I don't understand why wanting changes to the daily cap is such an unpopular opinion.
I’m happy for friends with remote raid passes. I burn through them but I found international players who seem to be always available when I need raid help 😎
I never knew anything about it until now, I returned to Pokémon Go after 3 years and your video made me learn about Pokémon Go history. Keep up the hard work MYSTIC7!
I just came back in since 2017. I bought pokemon go ++ because i thought it would be epic to automatically spins pokestops and catch pokemons automatically and I can choose great ball and ultra ball to remotely catch pokemon. But Niantic has surely gone downhill. Is it the worst time to come back?
I remember the breakthrough research. I especially remember getting a shiny Ho-oh on my birthday from breakthrough research. Since I never really raided much back then, it was nice getting actual legendaries... Also... I once defended the same gym for 3 months straight and only got 50 PokeCoins total from it. The story behind it was that the park where the gym was... Was closed due to covid so yeah.. my pokemon was in there for 90 days. Great video!! Keep up the amazing work!!! Have a great day!!!
I live in a pretty rural area with just a few pokestops and gyms. Almost all of them were placed by me after i reached level 40. But, when the research breakthrough box had legendaries in it, i was rarely able to open it because i couldn't get my daily spin stamp. There were absolutely ZERO pokestops in my place, so, for me to spin a pokestop, i had to take the bus and go elsewhere. I still remember going INSANE when the first pokestop appeared in the area, and it was about a 4-5 minute walk from home. But soon after that happened the box was nerfed... But being able to get a legendary from it was SO hype, people who didn't experience that really missed out.
I wish I had played a lot more consistently back when the breakthroughs were that great. I only ever got 2 Articuno and a Suicune since I played so sparingly
Atleast you got them... Now try to get them damn near impossible same with Zapdos and Lugia your lucky asf if you have any of them now along with Rayquaza and zekrom and Darkrai wish they make a return
Thanks for the awesome video. But you forgot the time when niantic added ALL AVAILABLE STARTERS to level 20+ GBL rewards reducing the probability of getting a legendary pokemon from 10-12.5% to about 4%. Also, when Niantic nerfed the GBL stardust rewards to the ground and to answer the community's backlash they gave extra end-of-season stardust which was nothing compared to what we would have earned throughout the season.
I remember all of this stuff. People take the new gym system for granted nowadays, but the gym rework was such a massive deal at the time! If any of your pokemon were in gyms when it happened, they all got kicked out simultaneously. Then gyms were inaccessible for several days, but a bunch of new things converted into gyms as well! Also worth noting that before the rework happened, you couldn’t spin the photo disc at gyms for items. Only pokestops had item-giving powers at first, and gym badges didn’t exist either. It was like a totally different experience.
I remember those legendary research breakthrough boxes! That was how I got my first ever shiny legendary. Not only was it the first lugia I had EVER gotten, but it was SHINY. I was at my boyfriend’s apartment at the time, completely freaked out when I saw it, and ran to show him. He was so jealous! I will always remember that moment lol.
@@MrZorx75 yeah but I feel it’s still something though because it gives free to play players or atleast ppl who decide to spend as little as possible and extra encounter and chance at a shiny or Hundo. Now they are clearly trying to incentivize raiding. They are just trying to get their bread but an extra free encounter from field research wouldn’t hurt them.
@@MrZorx75 i live in a rural place, the closest gym is 10km away and whenever I get the chance to raid there are only 5 to 4 people in the raid, how am I supposed to get legendaries
I think a heavy fail is the early gym system where if you battled so hard to beat the gym, the members of that gym could keep feeding unlimited golden razz berries to have full HP or if you defeated a gym and it turned grey, anyone could swipe that gym win
I love watching these old videos lmao Honestly I think Gyms just needed the Winner Priority and all gym slots available. Having to train the gym to unlock the slots was annoying but it was the easiest gold badge. I think 6 pokemon in a gym is a weird number. They could at least made it 8 to match the number of gym badges in the main series. Or left it at 10. They should of also let the first person to put in “Any” pokemon even legendaries/mythical. So they’d be crowned as the Gym leader and get some sort of buff to make their pokemon harder to defeat. Gyms are pretty useless right now. I can easily wipe out any gym with 1 pokemon and if you have friends to help nothing is hard. The pokemon shouldn’t decay and they should have a gym defender buff that makes them feel like a challenge. And once you win gym battles you should get some sort of reward like stardust and xp.
This is Niantics problem always has been. Their solutions to get people to do more of what they want isn't adding to the game in that area etc it's always to nerf something else good hoping that forces players to do as they please.
I've been playing since day one of Pokemon GO, I really appreciate you for making this video and showing newer players what we had and being so honest about their mistakes. Hopefully Niantic will see this and think about things. Thanks again man
I really miss the old gym system when it came to training them up to fit all the pokemon on there plus the 100 coins daily but having the 1 Pokémon each instead of 10 of the same was a welcomed change
Re: Heracross One of the unfortunate mechanics that Niantic seems to have in their code is that the shiny rate is consistent regardless of how you encounter the pokemon (raids, wild, etc.). For Heracross, they put it in raids and removed it from the wild, and gave us a boosted shiny rate. After the backlash of people complaining, Niantic left Corsola in the wild when it's shiny was released but gave us the base shiny rate, and people complained that it was too hard to raid for the shiny.
I miss getting 50 pokeballs from my buddy during community Day. They need to bring that back. And for the research breakthrough, I remember getting shiny Moltres one week, and then shiny groudon the very next week
Those freaking gyms, man... ok, so I'm team Instinct (smallest team) and I wasn't getting all the good mons for attacking or defending gyms, which meant that all the gyms around me were chock full of defenders from other teams. I could never make a dent in them, and if I was lucky enough to get a mon into a gym, I'd be knocked out twenty minutes later. The entire non-pay method of getting Pokecoins was cut off from me. I much prefer this version of gyms.
I'm also Team Instinct and I remember doing constant trips with my bike into the forrest or mountain areas to take down gyms which were pretty hard to reach. I managed to get my 100 coins almost every day. Tbh it was the most fun I ever had with the game. Right now I can just do everything while sitting on my couch...
I did take down 10 Blissys once or twice. I remember the hard work I did to get 100 coins a day so I could purchase Lucky Eggs for double XP on evolving, the best way to get XP at the time. I made Level 40 just before the first anniversary, just before they changed the gym system. I was ready to never do another gym battle. Then the change came, and even though the maximum coins were now half, it drew me back in to doing gym battles. Getting a coin every ten minutes is a lot easier than making sure one was live in ten gyms at midnight, which was when they gave the coins out under the old system. Though I get less coins per day than I use to, and I do not like it, I would not be surprised if they have given out more coins per day since then because more people are able to get coins. Also, it made the relationships between the three teams easier, since you now needed them to get your coins. As a whole, it is much better. I still think people who made Level 40 in the first year should get a medal for it; it was harder then. These days, I use the coins more for incubators and raid passes, in that order.
Buddy functionality idea: What if for a certain amount of Km walked with a buddy, the trainer were given the ability to improve the buddy’s IVs by 1? And let’s say the Km needed were based on the rarity of the Pokémon and would multiply by 1.2x each IV gained. For example, based on the eggs the Pokémon hatch from, or the level raid needed for the reward encounter, would determine if you needed 20 (tier1), 30 (tier3), 40 (tier4) or 50Km (tier5) walked for a single IV improvement. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Charmander, they would need to walk 148.832km (round to 149) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Gible, they would need to walk 297.664km (round to 298) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. If a trainer had a 10/15/15 IV Mewtwo, they would need to walk 446.496km (round to 447) with the buddy Pokémon to get to 100% IVs. Pros: - This would make spoofing or radar services less profitable and encourages more gameplay with the same Pokémon. - Entices player to “bond” with a single Pokémon for longer and therefore play the game more often to get the coveted 100% dex. Cons: - All players would have access to the best Pokémon if they walk enough - Pvp players would need to make sure to avoid gaining hearts walking their buddy, or not apply the “bonding” IVs earned. If you can think of any other pros/cons, reply to this comment so we can share our thoughts about the idea and maybe someone at Niantic will pick it up! Ideas welcomed and I’ll update the post accordingly. Side note: Could it be this is why Ash Ketchum’s Pikachu was so powerful? Because Ash built a string relationship with him? Second side note: friend me so we can help each other to lvl50! 6436 8135 6368
Just got back into the game. Thank you for being such a big help to me coming back . I finally got my first mewtwo and other things . You gotta keep making this content brotha
You should have also mentioned the raise in remote raid pass prices because regardless of what pokemon go does we are stupid enough to keep playing the game regardless of price and it will be long forgotten soon that the prices was 250 for 3 passes instead of 300
That and them not doing the remote raid passses in the 1 coin boxes anymore. My discord group is still pissed about that and some I think have stopped playing altogether because remotes are pretty much the only way they can do raids
That does sound awful but Niantic always finds a way to waste your time with eggs. The number of Vullaby and Scraggy I've hatched trying to find a female Salandit, my god.
Remember shiny Snivy’s release… A non-Community Day release (it did get a CD eventually, but was pretty ridiculous it had it’s shiny release be a non-CD. The only starter they’ve done that for
one of my favourites was the no limit and huge quantities on the gifts on release, me and my local group absolutely hammered eachother with gifts the first few hours and it was great. My girlfriend had hundreds of pinaps and pokeballs that lasted her months haha it somewhat worked out for niantic from her since she ended up buying like 5 bag upgrades to store them all
I was expecting the first Go Fest as one of these. Definitely expected the hearusniantic mess. You probably need to add good Com Day Schedules to this list. Starter/pseudo legendary was great.
There is one more that I would love to see come back. Back in the old gym system there also was AR battling and it was great making the game so much more real and exciting to me.
I remember sitting for an hour at midnight, taking down a single fully Blissed out gym, only to leave behind a CP27 pidgeot. As much as people hated that system, I was capable of dealing with it solo, albeit slowly. And boy, did it piss off the Valor and Mystic players :D
Remember when niantic hard coded the grass type pokemon as a list? When gen 4 was released, evolving a grotle didn't count for the "evolve an evolved grass type pokemon" research task
I had to remind the first 2 seconds of the video like 20 times😂”On July 6 of 2020, Pokémon Go was released” it’s okay, we all know what you meant Mystic
The best feature of the game up to this date was trying to find the Pokemon by walking around and getting step counts deppending if you were close or not... It was the most fun feature, they removed it and made them all to appear on pokestops instead, i dunno how u didnt mention this one x)
Honestly I liked the old way gyms worked because it became a turf war type of thing. Me and friends would hold down a market plaza that had 4 gyms in it and it was pretty much impossible to overtake by a single person, which incentivized WORKING TOGETHER to take down a gym. You had to fight through an entire gym all at once and beat the timer, it was tough! Now, any chud with a 500+ cp mon can take down any gym with enough revives and potions, plus you're incentivized to LOSE rather than actually defend anything, really sad honestly...
8:45 I still think I am a winner for NOT buying this ticket, the biggest flob is I purchase this year's GO Fest ticket but I still have fun with it at least
I still remember their first glitch that they didn't inform players till after it was resolved: the catch rate was lowered and the flee rate was increased to 70% I also remember the first Moltres raid day that had problems everywhere and niantic said it was because "we" had bad 4G connections, you know despite you guys having video evidence in Japan
The pokécoin switch thing may have been clever because it definitely caused me to make a new character of a different gym color. First thing I did was bought and threw a lucky egg, star piece, incense, and lure modules. You wanna talk about XP boost with all of those new types...
I’m so glad I only spent around 5 passes for Druddigon when it first released. We have a local dude who raided stupid hard and did over 30 in the first 4 hours when it was shiny locked. It’s crazy that whenever there is a mistake like this, it’s shoved under the rug and radio silence from Niantic with no compensation. Just like Go fest 2022 and the dissapering spawns…
i still remember getting a shiny articuno thru the research breakthrough box. I was like around lv 20 and that was a huge moment for me. One of first legendaries and perhaps my first shiny
One you forgot was during the 1st year of the game being out they removed the 3 step indicator. Which pissed off soooo many players and some players left the game because of it lol. They brought it back but it was only available for a couple months before they decided to completely remove it.
Personally I believe they should have never added legendarys to boxes or raids to begin with, they should have been released in the wild but made absolutely stupidly difficult to find, it makes it more fun and a reason to always go out and hunt and not get bored
When they had all the birds and the beasts in I got all the birds shiny. One every week it was crazy. The order was Zapdoes, Moltrais and Auticuno. To this day idk if I was lucky or Niantic did something to my game. I didn't get ho oh, Lugia or any of the beasts shiny from those break throughs though.
The other crime with shiny cubchoo being released during the G-Mime event was that it was a costumed cubchoo so you couldn't even evolve the shinies that you caught!
I hear you. I got one of those shiny Cubchoos last December and as cool as it was, I did really want to evolve it but couldn't because of that stupid bow on it's head.
Got take issue with you drawing the line at double-legacy Lapras... that was and still would be an exceptional/welcome research breakthrough. Woobat was the death of the research breakthroughs
Mark my words The way mega energy and xl candy were initially put in the game will be looked back as one of the most boneheaded decisions niantic has ever made.
I had a white screen glitch after a raid since my party died at the same time the raid boss did. I lost a free raid pass and a chance at a groudon, but I was given 3 premium raid passes for compensation.
Amazing video, Brandon! As an OG day 1 player, the old gym system still gives me nightmares 😂 And maybe, just maybe, it could be a part two of this video...
I liked the original gym style I wish it would go back to it even if they kept it a max of 50 coins a day, atleast back then you could collect the coins instead of waiting up to 3 days before a pokemon gets kicked out
If there were one question I could honestly ask Niantic about it's production process, it would be: how was the process to come out with the Galarian Mr. Mime event? How did they think it was a good idea and why nobody could stop it?
It does feel like they're the Comcast of apps sometimes. They want to see how much they can piss off their customers without alienating them completely and just stay there.
Problem is many people (like me) started playing during Covid and didn't realize that was not how the game usually was. They weren't bonuses to us, they were just the game. The rollbacks still don't make sense to me. Ya, I know, "Niantic's vision." Can you imagine if Microsoft decided their system had to many features and was to easy for people to use, so they went back to Windows 95? Laughable right? :)
I caught my shiny kyogre back in december 2019 out of the breakthrough boxes, but i have NEVER EVER caught a shiny out of a raid so thats my only shiny legendary
Remember how niantic tried to shake things up with coin system by implementing tasks to get coins? Gyms wouldn't be the only coin outcome, which for many rural people would be a godsend. But many weren't happy with the fact that one of the tasks was "win a raid", which was pretty harsh. When niantic removed that task... Few weeks later they cancelled this system without explanation. Gee, I wonder what change made them realise it wasn't worth financially...
I didn't even realize those research breathrough boxes were that old, I just know that every since they stopped putting legendaries in them, I almost through my phone across the room everytime I get more duplicate trash I don't/have never needed.
I use to go CRAZY over the early gym set up. People literally put 10 blisseys or Snorlax in every gym and just when you about to beat it here come 9 other players refilling the gym with Blisseys and Snorlax. 😂 it was annoying but hillarious cause I was guilty of it too
Bring back OG gyms to a time when it was challenging to defeat a gym, take it over and train it. Maybe have both types of gyms one for vanilla peeps and the competitive ones. Keep the 100 coins for the competitive ones.
Remember when nest spawns got people excited? The last 4 gens released are just route 1 trash in nests now, i miss when something rare was nesting at my local park.
Top 3 Pokemon GO mistakes I've made: 1 Forgot about Deino com day 2 Missed Alolan Geodude com day 3. Forgot swinub com day lol. Also, I really miss those research box legendaries, and I'm just starting to miss the weekly raid pass too.
I got really lucky with my 98% shiny Kyogre from a research breakthrough back in 2019. Super happy and grateful even to this day, and it has been my top water attacker ever since, as well as one of my first best buddies.
I kinda like how they brought Latias and Latios to Hoen tour and stayed true to the original games, that both were fleeing relative easy, but until this day I don’t know if Shiny Latias/Latios could peace off, I cought the only Shiny Latias i met (the only shiny for the whole damn Event). But a Shiny Legendary just running away must be soul crushing, especially since Latias and Latios actually have cool shinys and are rather useful with their Mega
Go Fest 2017. They DEFINITELY want us to forget that! I attended and reveled in the pure chaos. Although, nothing could beat that stampede to the Lugia raid at the fountain next door right after GoFest ended.
