5% Of People Are Sociopaths - Here’s What You Need To Know

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Sociopathy is a spectrum. It’s a disorder that affects roughly 5% of the population - similar to the number of people who have depression or anxiety. Patric Gagne is a sociopath.
In this chat with Fearne, Patric explains the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath. Sociopaths have access to inherent emotions like sadness and happiness, but struggle with learned social emotions like remorse, guilt, empathy, and love. There’s also a huge feeling of apathy for Patric, which in the past led her to anti-social behaviours like stealing cars and breaking into houses.
Fearne also points out the benefits of not caring what others think of you; while she people pleases a lot, she can see the freedom in having a lack of a filter. They chat about how to function in a relationship when you have to communicate any kind of mental disorder or illness too.
Patric’s memoir, Sociopath, is this month’s Happy Place Book Club read. Come and be part of the Book Club discussions on Instagram @happyplacebookclub.
Sociopath is out now.
Listen to Book Club Meets: Jo Cheetham
Listen to Book Club Meets: Jennie Godfrey
Thanks to Bluebird (an imprint of Pan Macmillan) for the Sociopath audiobook extract.
ABOUT FEARNE COTTON
Fearne Cotton is an English television and radio presenter, mother, broadcaster, writer and founder of Happy Place, a place where Fearne holds difficult but important conversations to encourage self-care and self-appreciation, creating a positive impact on the world, giving everyone a voice and actively listening.
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@Jennifer_150 2 месяца назад

I’m betting this woman is also 1000% a bonafied narcissist too.

@HumanimalChannel 2 месяца назад

All people w ASPD are narcassists

@dfinite4089 2 месяца назад

Anti-social (sociopathy) is in the same category as narcissism, they are both personality disorders, meaning they are cemented into the personality, into who that person is. Although they have different names, narcissism and sociopathy as well as histrionic etc, they all blend a bit together. It’s not like they are separate. So yes, naturally, by way of having a personality disorder, there would be narcissistic traits as well as sociopathic.

@_jovial 10 дней назад

all sociopaths are narcissists however, not all narcissists are sociopaths

@petercrinnion9043 5 дней назад

@@_jovial All carrots are vegetables, but all vegetables are not carrots.

@EveningTV 2 месяца назад

My first husband was diagnosed with ASPD and NPD, and let me just say that being his wife or his child was to be in a relationship of inevitable harm. I do not want anyone watching this to think people can be as "normal" as this woman, and actual sociopaths are everything a parent should never be. I can't believe that she chose to have children knowing she was antisocial . I bought the book, and I look forward to reading it, but I have very mixed feelings about this and mostly I worry about the false hope this will create in empathic people. What she said around 34:32 about seeing pain in someone else's face, I very much doubt this diagnosis. She sounds more like she thinks like a lot of neuro typical men. It is uncommon for a female to be that emotionally detached, but we don't need to lose the stigma because these people destroy lives. Again, not this woman, but sociopaths are mostly not anything like this woman. Also, my ex did make choices and his behavior was calculated and deliberate and he was a master manipulator, handsome and charismatic and wearing a mask always except for behind closed doors where he was terrorizing me and our children. .

@Space_Princess 2 месяца назад

I totally agree with you on this

@mnemetotoro 2 месяца назад

I agree with you. People need to be aware of how deceitful superficial charm is, how it is used as a manipulation tactic to get you just where they want you to be, and how it’s always self serving. Don’t put your gard down people, they can sniff it out like a shark and will take advantage of the opportunity at your expense. Also remember, all sociopaths are narcissists (but not all narcissists arre sociopaths.) She’s most certainly doing this for, at least, narcissistic supply. She’s gotten skilled at her game, mimicking other people’s behaviour to fool people behind her mask. She knows how to play on other people’s empathy to get what she wants. I see all the tricks she’s playing here. Furthermore, you don’t have to be a murderer (or in prison) to wreak havoc in someone’s life, do serious damage or severely hurt someone. I mean, that is the bar she sets for not being a dangerous/bad person? Says all we need to know, really.

@queenofthebutterflies5212 2 месяца назад

@@mnemetotoro I 100% agree with you. She's getting narc supply as she speaks about herself and sociopathy and how wonderful, freeing it is to be one

@PassionateFlower 2 месяца назад

Actually it makes perfect sense that a sociopath would have children despite knowing they have a harmful antisocial personality disorder. That seems pretty textbook to do something selfish to benefit oneself without considering the detrimental harm it will have on others who are extremely vulnerable and will be directly negatively impacted by their self centered decision.

@parelpaardje 2 месяца назад

I can totally see how you'd be hesitant, as I also think her talking about herself is exactly what she'd want. However do know your ex husband was one case and not every case. She seems really nice to me, so I think she's right in saying it's a spectrum and they can learn and not all of them become violent. It's also very interesting to hear her perspective and how she feels. I'm sorry you went through what you did.❤

@StaceyJayne-pe7ww 2 месяца назад

My mother is a sociopath. They ARE monsters. Not all are violent, in fact, i think the non-violent ones may be more dangerous in a way. Because theyre highly unlikely to ever be stopped if the things they do aren't easily identified, the way violence would be. My mother ruins anyone's life she is allowed into. And has been allowed to do this, her entire life.

@jeffreyscottking Месяц назад

my mother too😢

@IoIocaust 10 дней назад

Maybe she's a malignant narcissist? Sociopaths can live normal lives, but when it comes to empathy, there's just none.

@cualter 2 месяца назад

Her real name is Patricia Cagle and her PhD credentials are dubious.

@HumanimalChannel 2 месяца назад

Lol it would be kinda disappointing if they weren't...dubious... ya know?

@kr3642 2 месяца назад

Thank you

@philipholding Месяц назад

I'll look that up. Thank you

@alexandrugheorghe5610 Месяц назад

Maybe you are a fraud. Can't even spell her name properly.

@falsofalsofalso3348 20 дней назад

ye she said that since most of the diagnostics are on the prision system then the 5% must be higher when in fact since the sample is biased due to the correlation the percentage in total population must be lower

@madisonohare4012 2 месяца назад

My step son was Conduct Disorder, Oppositional Defiance Disorder, then after 18 Antisocial Sociopath. He is the most dangerous person I know and he has stolen from me since he was 7 and he is 36 now. He kicked my dog the day I brought her home from being spayed when he was 7. He went to prison for 2 years at 18 for assaulting me and family violence. He shot his own dog in the head as adult. I have seen him beat a grown man until he was bleeding out of his ears and the man's brain was hemorrhaging. He is more manipulative today than he was a child. Sociopaths are not to be trusted.

@thenewyorkcitizen 2 месяца назад

Scary

@somethinggood9267 2 месяца назад

Wow that is disturbing. I pray Jesus saves him

@somethinggood9267 2 месяца назад

Wow that is disturbing. I pray Jesus saves him

@karinamurison1537 2 месяца назад

If you listened to her you'd have heard that she's not on about those extreme cases of sociopathy like your stepson. There's a spectrum and those that live with sociopathy and aren't violent should have access to treatment. I'm so sorry you went through what you did. I can't imagine the pain & trauma you must've gone through 🫂

@hurricane_valence 2 месяца назад

@karinamurison1537 Yes, you're right, but if you know what the criteria is having to meet that you have to do some pretty heinous things. So either she's not being honest with us. Or maybe she's just in my opinion. Might meet sociopathic tendencies without meeting the full diagnosis. But if she gets really honest about her conduct disorder I could probably believe Her diagnosis, but I know a lot of people who break into homes who aren't diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder and wouldn't fit the full criteria.

@Poppy-yx8js 2 месяца назад

A distinction she left out is that personality disorder is not a mental illness. It’s the way your particular personality style evolved over time given your genetic heritable traits coinciding with your environment. The do know right from wrong and are not out of control. The prognosis for this personality disorder is poor.

@TheClazabaza 2 месяца назад

Yes but legally a bit different in different countries...for example, Personality Disorders became recognised under The Mental Health act (in Scotland) in order that people could be offered treatment...including Personality Disorders under the umbrella of Mental Illness/Health opened doors that were previously closed.

@all_that_glitters13131 2 месяца назад

So if you have multiple personality disorders?

@graceg3250 2 месяца назад

Then by your definition, being a psychopath isn’t a personality disorder, like being a sociopath is, because psychopaths are born with different brains. This lady may be a psychopath, not a sociopath.

@christinemerritt974 2 месяца назад

@@AK-bx3ftseems accurate! I have had close relationships with BOTH! The sociopath is BY FAR much easier to “be friends” with…for a while..and yes…they are EMOTIONAL and can be a LOT of fun!! They can SOMETIMES feel empathy…

@pearpo 2 месяца назад

I disagree. It began with the sociopaths lie that a sociopath is a “milder” form of psychopath. A sociopath lies to you on this video about how sociopaths can change and psychopaths cannot.. and you believe it? Very rarely do these people change, from either category. Psychopaths can be “self aware” even though the sociopath in this video claims differently. This video is excellent example of the behavior.

@jennymum 2 месяца назад

It is now clear that a lot of people in our community are emotionless. They have advantage over others. Healthy people must learn to identify them for our own safety.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Yes some people are emotionaless but these people are not emotionless, they are empathyless

@esmeramsay8179 2 месяца назад

Extremely well put

@Youraveragedemon-n3r Месяц назад

You're not smart enough to catch it trust me, I'm diagnosed ASPD and my own mother still doesn't know I'm a sociopath. You just can't tell who's a sociopath lol we'll sit there and talk about narcissistic and sociopaths and how terrible and two faced those people are all the while we are one 😅

@jbmanifestor5016 Месяц назад

Got news for you. Some of the people you believe are healthy are sociopaths because believe it or not, sociopaths can be healthy too.

@specialtwice4975 Месяц назад

@@user-rh9jg9fu7z They are emotionless in the sense of "emotionally blind" like how someone is color blind. Main emotions they lack or hardly feel: sadness, embarrassment, anxiety, fear, true joy, etc. Emotions they feel a lot: anger, contempt, satisfaction or duper delight, etc. sociopath or psychopath is basically being color blind, but for emotions. that's what aspd is. Most aspd also have the emotional maturity of a child. I've seen many a psychopath talk themselves out of trouble like a 6 year old denying they took their friend's toy (you know they did).

@Jae-by3hf 2 месяца назад

First of all…way too many ads. Secondly sociopaths live “normal” lives because they manipulate and abuse vulnerable people, empaths without boundaries, people pleasers etc. Third this woman should not be allowed to be a one on one therapist. She already admitted that she knows how to blend in. Fourthly her upbringing is clearly why she is the way she is and that was completely left out of the conversation. Lastly there is “stigma” because it has been rightly earned! & saying there is so much stigma is invalidating the victims of their abuse! I do not trust this woman for a second, anyone can perform for an interview, what do her children think, what do they neighbours know? The people closest to them are the ones with all the insight, not a performance for society!

@nhvkuy4675 2 месяца назад

@@AK-bx3ft nah, the stigma is well deserved, spectrum or not, nothing to do with OP's ego

@debbiekillewald8384 2 месяца назад

I'm pretty sure sociopaths are evil and just because they're a surgeon doesn't change that. I said what I said. I don't care what anyone thinks of what I said either. You're free to have you're own opinion.

@hurricane_valence 2 месяца назад

I've been to social personality disorder. And I'd say don't trust. Us. I'm probably the only sociopath. If you want to call me that there will be honest with could care less about stigma because I could care less about what people think of me. The only time I could ever care and I'm only gonna say this once is if my bridges were burned. These people who come on here and say they have this disorder and want to end the stigma. Do not have this disorder.

@tathe3786 2 месяца назад

Agree 👍 my gut told me exact the same thing you wrote

@supernova11711 2 месяца назад

I was thinking the exact same thing…anyone can put on an act for an interview and she said herself that she knows how to adapt to situations. That’s the problem with people like this (psychopaths, sociopaths and people with NPD). They lie so much that they don’t even know when they’re doing it anymore. Their reality is beyond skewed. Even if you DID find one that wasn’t trying to manipulate you, you’re never going to get any takeaway from talking to them.

@ayesh5544 2 месяца назад

From my understanding, her laughter and smiling are part of her mask to make the other person feel at ease with them.

@tathe3786 2 месяца назад

Agree the eyes stay cold!

@artsy897 2 месяца назад

@@tathe3786I noticed that…not saying she cant choose to be a decent human being.

@kimmccaleb4170 2 месяца назад

Exactly. Duping delight.

@esmeramsay8179 2 месяца назад

The eyes are dark and dead - they called it a sociopathic stare

@TB0991 2 месяца назад

She reminds me so much of a bully from school.. all makes sense to me now

@triple999fruitful 2 месяца назад

Don't care about her. Don't care about her niche marketing. Spend resources on educating potential victims and victims on how to detect and avoid the wolf. Educate people on boundaries. Sharing is not caring with a wolf

@TB0991 2 месяца назад

I agree. All start as school bullies then somehow fit into society, workplace bully or end up in prison. Using "illness" as an excuse when it hurts others, animals, innocents, I don't care about you. OCD as Fearne mentioned, is a completely different outlet, mostly harming the one suffering with the illness not others. If anything this is worse as it goes under the radar, atleast with pyschopath's they are helped / dealt with approriately.

@emilyau8023 Месяц назад

Don't watch then. It's that simple. You have no right to speak if you want to silence someone else based on your ignorance of the disorder.

@monopthalmoss Месяц назад

It's about her book and getting more sales...bottom line..but so what really? Even Neuro typical people are selfish and callous with a general disregard for anyone unless it's close family ..or they identity with the person,or they need the person..

@insertmyidentityhere 25 дней назад

@@emilyau8023 Oh yes, lemme guess, next we need to have empathy for the sociopath bc they are simply "NEurOdIvERgenT".....🤡

@xlander-jp1rd 24 дня назад

@@emilyau8023 au contraire- many naive ppl can learn self defence if theyre wise to coniving behaviour.

@JaneA-UK 2 месяца назад

This is a sociopath - how are we supposed to believe anything she says or writes???

@esmeramsay8179 2 месяца назад

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

@CariMachet 2 месяца назад

And she is authoritarian about sociopathy

@brugueshj559 2 месяца назад

How can you believe anything someone says, then??

@CariMachet 2 месяца назад

@@brugueshj559 trust NO ONE EVER

@sariputraa Месяц назад

@@brugueshj559 90% of the ppl are not sociopath nor narc... so there is no lack of moral compass. that's why it's important to know how to identify those who don't have it.

@ebonyapplepy3906 2 месяца назад

🤔😏Notice how she said she attacked a child, she got a shocked reaction from the interviewer then tamed it by saying she took the barrette out of the girl's hair in front of her, then the interviewer calmed and they moved on to the next point. Sociopaths will say or do little awkward things that make you feel uncomfortable hours or days later. Lots of eyebrow raising moments but not too many that will make you run screaming in the opposite direction, unless you're an empath, very sensitive person, or a narcissistic abuse survivor.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Yes and they'll pick someone weak to torture. Like that barrettes pull? Maybe there was a little clump of hair in there. Oops! Crying little girl runs for help and socio laughs and says it was an accident. There was some fuzz in barrettes girl's hair! Barrettes girl is exaggerating!

@muma6559 Месяц назад

Yeah, she's very sly and sneaky and knows what she's doing. And it's all so funny to her. Give them their own city to live in

@user-rh9jg9fu7z Месяц назад

@@muma6559 we need education and awareness. if everyone knew we could protect each other better. and all healthy people need to realize that gossip is always toxic and it's how these socios get away with a lot: by ruining other's reps. don't tolerate it in the workplace.

@lilij1915 Месяц назад

I sensed she was toning down a lot of the questionable things she did

@muma6559 Месяц назад

@@lilij1915 yeah she/he was minimizing her/his criminal behavior. Did you notice she/he was called Patrick at the end ?

@katealison6087 2 месяца назад

What's the point in comparing the stats to someone who has depression etc. Not linked. The attempt to reframe what is essentially psychopathy as some kind of "disorder" deserving of some kind of compassion is dangerous. Sociopaths, admittedly through no fault of their own, are highly manipulative, empathy-devoid, selfish and capable of callous and deviant behaviours. You don't want to have a connection with a sociopath - they will cause you harm. I'm tired of these reframes - they almost slot into the frenetic end of woke culture that's causing so much harm generally. If someone tells you they're a sociopath disengage and cut the contact. Period.

@TuxieTude 2 месяца назад

Yes, I agree 💯. Great comment!!

@heavenmontalvo441 2 месяца назад

“psychopathy” is antisocial personality disorder in the dsm-5.

@alexandrugheorghe5610 Месяц назад

Says a neurotypical

@genesis650 2 месяца назад

Brutal honesty is 1000 times better than sweet lies!

@dollie9018 2 месяца назад

Thank you, at least someone on the comment section has some brains.

@caddieohm7059 2 месяца назад

Egoism isn't

@mishi144 Месяц назад

Said the sociopath, an individual notoriously well known for charismatic lies and manipulation.

@belindalee6349 2 месяца назад

This is the art of manipulation. You will be told what is in their interests and how they want you to believe. Everything is a calculation of their self interests.

@emilyau8023 Месяц назад

If you're going to be closed minded and biased, I don't understand what's the point in watching the vid and commenting something so useless.

@user-vz4gg6cs4l 26 дней назад

you DO realize you are literally straw-maning and gaslighting her, right? Like this is witch hunt level argumentation... I also love how you make everyone with ASPD out how to be this Moriarty-esque mastermind. You really have the mind of child...

@FunkyMunky-w2m 20 дней назад

@@emilyau8023well we do understand the point, "bias" isnt having a different view than you. You dont have to understand our views or agree, why are you reading the comments if you are going to obsessively comment on people who you dont understand where they're coming from

@shebreathesingold8043 4 дня назад

Every person lives in a calculated way. Sociopath aren't unicorns. They just do it more ruthless. But the persona you put on here is different to the one you put in front of your priest or your parents. We all change all the time. Stop trying to demonize human beings just because they have a personality disorder.

@Poppy-yx8js 2 месяца назад

I would like to hear a little more about some things she’s done - like she briefly mentioned she likes to follow people as well as breaking into a strangers home- because it’s true that we live in a world were many people have higher than average traits of psychopathy (secondary & primary) and the presentation isn’t what one would think. It’s not a rare condition as most people are taught to believe. If we calculated more honestly the percentage is 30% of our population. That doesn’t include the more mildly toxic individuals. When you realize this it really changes how you understand your relationships and environment. I test 0 on the PCLR and I am a target for manipulative people. I’m far from naive but I have been at war to remove a few individuals who have wanted to hurt me.

@Poppy-yx8js 2 месяца назад

Did she used to become rageful if she felt someone was going to expose her disorder??

@somethinggood9267 2 месяца назад

Wait, socio/psychopaths make up 30% of the population?!

@dreamingangeltarot2919 2 месяца назад

I agree, I wish she would elaborate a little more on the examples of her strange behavior.. the interviewer should have probed a little more

@maureenlas4367 2 месяца назад

I read the book; she is a monster

@kp8972 2 месяца назад

I feel like most management and landlords that I have dealt with are sociopaths

@MellowBellow1 2 месяца назад

There IS a singularly evil aspect to people who don’t experience developed empathy. If someone doesn’t have social emotions and feels a NEED to be antisocial to reduce internal tension: they WILL hurt others. And they will NOT seek help.

@AK-bx3ft 2 месяца назад

Well that's just factually not true.

@MellowBellow1 2 месяца назад

@@AK-bx3ft it is a fact. If you don’t have developed empathy and feel a NEED to be antisocial to reduce tension: you WILL hurt people. It’s a fact. Because you don’t care and need to be antisocial. Fact.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

@@MellowBellow1people may, for whatever reason, want to look as if they want help. Or the manipulation is better if seen by others an effort to seek help

@MellowBellow1 2 месяца назад

@@user-rh9jg9fu7z do you mean sociopaths when you say people? Sociopaths may well superficially present flippantly as wanting help. Yes. They may also want help, but not feel empathy anyway, so cannot “learn” to feel empathy.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

@@MellowBellow1 heh, yep

@juneelle370 2 месяца назад

She could’ve gone to nature for stillness. She derived a sense of power from violating people’s personal space. it’s about violating boundaries- entitlement to power over others. Feelings for themselves and for what they want but not for others. Embodied cognition/linguistics (book: Metaphors We Live By) show the ways we think and speak are connected to emotions and physiology. I think it’s very worth continued studying what is nature and nurture as there are already studies showing nurture is a big part (war torn countries have more sociopaths.) Essentially it seems love for others is perceived as a vulnerability when young and so the embodied emotions/loving thinking is not practiced/wired in. These internal maladaptive protections have some baring in truth-feeling for others CAN be a vulnerability because those feelings can be manipulated until you learn how to avoid/understand people who do that. & Unfortunately, so much of psychology is weaponized by the disordered in power for their own aims, not for the benefit of humanity. Nothing is or has ever been left on the table that can be used for the furtherance of wealth and power.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Or maybe the only thing left on the table is that to gain wealth one must be willing to violate

@rongike 2 месяца назад

I think the bad tendencies are a response to rejection bc they obv don't feel like they fit in and that's a feeling of rejection.

@notaclue822 Месяц назад

Spot on. I thought the same...There are plenty of places where one can find calmness and quiet without breaking into houses. It doesn't wash.

@annaburson1 2 месяца назад

This interview is dangerously riding the line of normalizing and even glorifying not having the burden of empathy and emotions.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Not having empathy. Sociopath do have emotions.

@emilyau8023 Месяц назад

Only people with a lack of comprehension or common sense would see this as glorifying a mental disorder.

@monopthalmoss Месяц назад

Lack of empathy though leaves a huge handicap..

@kaitlynkarol4600 Месяц назад

so RIGHT on you are here! I study psychology and in so many vids online I see this too - they are always saying it's not bad to be like this as a way of comforting the mentally unbalanced person and then celebs are also making it chic and cool to be ment ill - like how bipolar and BPD have esp gotten to be super popular and normalized. This is def an agenda on a higher power level by the elites who run the system b/c they want to make us sick and create chaos so they can get us 1) under their control to be vulnerable to their agendas so they can play the 'hero' act and 2) to make huge profit. They've done this forever - you see it in physical health first and how Big Pharma preys on us w/ their relationship w/the FDA to put junk in the food to make us sick to drive profit to the pharmacy and dr's. Insurance scams galore and all of that, etc.....

@reneemayne4867 22 дня назад

@annaburson1 If you watch her other videos she speaks the exact opposite of what your saying. She does everything within her abilities and tells others to do the same to tap into what feeling of empathy she may have in one area and cultivate it in other areas and excepting and taking responsibility for her disability

@NatureFreak1127 2 месяца назад

She is very dubious. As are some of her claims and credentials. She seems like a narcissitic grifter if anything.

@mnemetotoro 2 месяца назад

100% All sociopaths & psychopaths are narcissists (but not all narcissists are socio-/psychopaths.)

@ofliliesandremains. 2 месяца назад

@@mnemetotoro wrong

@dreamingangeltarot2919 2 месяца назад

Yeah there is something about her I don't totally believe. It's like a inverse version of people today becoming obsessed with how special and unique they are because of their problems and fetishizing their diagnosis.

@TuxieTude 2 месяца назад

@@dreamingangeltarot2919Yes!!

@HumanimalChannel 2 месяца назад

@@ofliliesandremains.Um, no... absolutely correct by definition. all people with ASPD are narcissists. Not all narcissists have aspd.

@laurajane4806 2 месяца назад

I'm related to a an entire family of dark entities. I've also been affected by them at work. I honestly don't believe that sociopaths are only 5%. The percentage in the corporate jobs I worked was much much higher.

@bodymindsoul60 2 месяца назад

The percentages are way off in society. First, 30% of our young girls are depressed. Second, statistically as she stated it’s on those in prison. Most never get diagnosed because they don’t go to counseling or a Dr for symptoms. They’re just skirting around us in society.

@annaburson1 2 месяца назад

Why are we trying to reduce the stigma of an antisocial personality disorder that is literally named antisocial because these people will hurt you without a care. There are so few people with these types of personality disorders that will ever be self-aware enough to care enough to normalize their behaviors. It is not a safe message to tell us to normalize their disorder.

@basketballfan5763 2 месяца назад

Agree

@basketballfan5763 2 месяца назад

Of course we want to be seen to give each other a chance

@brugueshj559 2 месяца назад

Why you wanna normalize other disorders but not this one?? We don't choose to be this way and stigmatizing it and not giving treatment it's ultimately bad for us and for all the people around us. Hipocrite

@muma6559 Месяц назад

Stigma stays. And we get to notice bad behaviour more quickly.

@idleH4nd5 2 месяца назад

During the pandemic, people were taught to lack empathy for unvaccinated people and those harmed by vaccination. If empathy can be learned then perhaps sociopathy can be learned as well.

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Oh, and I love your comment btw

@yolandaponkers1581 Месяц назад

A photo from this exact time and subject comes to mind. I recall seeing a woman holding up a sign in protest of the lockdowns. “Sacrifice the weak and reopen Tennessee,” it said. Until I discovered antisocial PD, I didn’t really know how anyone could proudly say that on a street corner. Now I get how.

@idleH4nd5 Месяц назад

@@yolandaponkers1581you have reminded me of the damage done by lockdowns and the psychopathic disregard for the death and suffering that they caused. We must do everything in our power to resist the hysterical, fearful, virtue-signalling, brainwashed lockdown-supporting tyrants in future, and say "never again"!

@xlander-jp1rd 24 дня назад

No- I think for the most part these ppl are broken from a very young age.

@paumoscoso 2 месяца назад

Love the idea of learning about sociopaths but I feel this was a very happy, superficial look aiming to normalize the condition. She may be very well adjusted and have tons of support but is absolutely not the norm. Sociopaths have a compulsion to do things that are hurtful, manipulative, exploitative and cause pain and suffering, even if its not their main aim. Thats just reality. They do not care and only want to feel better. Im sure she’s trying and ‘learning’ how to feel love and empathy but that is a cognitive experience, they will never feel real love or empathy for others and that is emotionally dangerous for people around them, at the minimum. They are exploitative! In this podcast shes minimizing the illness because obviously she doesnt understand what she isnt feeling and how she can actually hurt others. Following people IS a big deal and so is breaking into houses. She’s laughing and minimizing everything, you can tell shes so emotionless and intellectualizes everything. Im so sad for her children!

@skippy6462 2 месяца назад

I've discovered that my mother has BPD and this woman is helping me understand that the sociopaths etc exist and they are around us and are our mums and dads and not just in the movies.

@DeniseLaFranceCDNpainter 2 месяца назад

Psychopath: Goal- oriented. Highly organized. Machiavellian in emotionless state with eye always on the ball of obtaining that end-GOAL. Usually more intelligent than the Sociopath. Unless goal IS to inflict chaos & pain ( as in psychosexual psychopath), any cause of pain & mayhem is just part & parcel of obtaining the goal...that pain & chaos will always be dismissed as fallout & price of obtaining the goal but it's neither the motive or payoff. The OBTAINING of *The Goal* ( aka: 'WINNING') provides the Psychopath with his or her NARCISSISTIC FUEL. ||| Sociopaths are MORE toxic & dangerous than the psychopath because pathological envy & pain-inflicting is ALWAYS at the helm of all they do; it's ALWAYS their motivational- factor. While the psychopaths MAY hurt people along the way of obtaining their goal...they are not driven to DO so. (They just don't care IF they do.) The Sociopath, on the other hand cares VERY much that tgey do. In fact, doing so IS their goal. The socippaths need NARCISSISTIC FUEL too but he or she obtains it a different way than the Psychopath. Sociopaths' Aim is *always* to incite & *WITNESS* the chaos & misery *they create* Sociopaths aim & REQUIRE to cause & *witness* it. That makes them feel omnipotent.

@dollie9018 2 месяца назад

Oh Christ these comments BORE me to death.

@Geo-p6y 2 месяца назад

Agreed. I can see right through that fesad. She doesn't fool me 😡.

@Jennifer_150 2 месяца назад

Oh this interviewer!! 🤦🏼‍♀️ “Oh how freeing it must be to not care about your fellow humans!! I just care so much about how what I do affects others! Your way of thinking just makes so much sense!” 😳

@TuxieTude 2 месяца назад

Gross huh?! 🤢

@TuxieTude 2 месяца назад

Disgusting isn't it. 😢

@kimmccaleb4170 2 месяца назад

I feel like I need to take a bath and burn my clothes. Giving a platform to a person like this is dangerous.

@fridaytieday 2 месяца назад

Hahahaha!!!!! You nailed it!!!! Imagine not feeling guilty or bad for hurting other people's feelings??? Never to be scared of doing bad things like being cruel or violent or breaking into houses.....

@aktchungrabanio6467 25 дней назад

@@TuxieTude It's revolting!

@edgreen8140 2 месяца назад

As a psychologist whoever said a personality disorder is not a mental illness is totally wrong. Antisocial personality is a mental illness where one feels empty and needs drama to feel something.

@HumanimalChannel 2 месяца назад

A PD is different from a mental illness

@MonaLisaFaceMusic 2 месяца назад

Where did you graduate?

@WheresWaldo05 2 месяца назад

Not all psychologists are right. Just like there are amazing auto mechanics. And garbage ones. I could go on and on and on.

@AnnaMishel 2 месяца назад

Are you saying sharks have a mental illness because they’re not “nice” like dolphins?

@WheresWaldo05 2 месяца назад

@@AnnaMishel Hope you truly are not this low of an IQ.

@HeadstrongGirl 2 месяца назад

Trusting a sociopath who tells you she's a victim so that's why she's manipulative is next-level naive.

@artisanaromatics 2 месяца назад

So many questions I wished the interviewer asked! WHEN did she start stealing cars and breaking into homes? How did she pick the home and how did she get in? How did she never get caught? Were they homes of people she knew or strangers' homes? What would she do with the cars she stole? So many questions unasked...

@TuxieTude 2 месяца назад

Exactly. Very disappointing!

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Yeah let's just skate passed that and keep it positive

@maureenlas4367 2 месяца назад

Read the book..it is horrifying

@BloomByCC Месяц назад

Read the book, listen to the book. Patric tells you, she does not care, she barely feels and she'll absolutely continue to act against the darkness of apathy that, at times, swallows her. Her work on sociopathy is a gift, but I would not trust her😮 this disorder is dangerous.

@mmmmarada 2 месяца назад

I wish the interviewer had challenged Patric's lack of accountability for her actions instead of gushingly empathizing with her. Patric laughs when she says something that she doesn't want challenged, and the interviewer unthinkingly laughs along with her. She is being conditioned by her interviewee, so this isn't a very valuable interview, and it's painful to watch as someone who lived with one of these people for decades. I'd like some real answers as to why my sociopath does what he does, and I am not getting them from him because he is a pathological liar with an airtight public persona of being this wonderful person who helps everyone. I see this in Patric, as well. Like me as I am, because I can't help being abusive and creepily invading people's boundaries, and couldn't possibly take responsibility for my actions like every other adult on the planet does. I am also so frustrated with the psychology community. The DSM is utterly no help, and this Patric woman has a psychology license when she has no emotional empathy for anyone? You might better be treated by utilizing an AI program.

@aktchungrabanio6467 25 дней назад

Thank you for mentioning this.

@JanneKonglevoll 2 месяца назад

My sister spent 15 years trying to get my daughter to commit suicide, abused us both. There was not much help to be had for the victims either. And she knows what she has done because she kept everything hidden😢

@hiddenechoes 2 месяца назад

Sending emotional support vibes from afar.

@notaclue822 2 месяца назад

But sociopaths care enough about what others think to hide.

@marymcquillan6417 2 месяца назад

My take on it is, they can care plenty enough about themselves and if they did certain things, they would be socially outcast. But they care little to none about others feelings whether it’s how their own actions affect others or how someine else’s actions affects others - it’s very superficial.

@neelymurphy6797 2 месяца назад

They care about what others think about them only insofar as it affects their ability to get what they want or need from others.

@AK-bx3ft 2 месяца назад

It depends, some of us are quite friendly and nice people and don't want to hurt anyone. Speaking for myself, I only take part in society because I have children and I don't want to be in prison and be away from my children or put them in harms way. My actions always take in to count my children. If my actions could hurt my children in any way I will not perform thjose actions.

@cassandracross-soto4133 2 месяца назад

It’s manipulation. My ex tried to be normal in public. But was a horrible abuser behind closed doors. A liar, a thief, an animal abuser. Tried to unalive me and other girlfriends. Did prison time and still insists he never hurt anyone? An awful control freak and the list goes on. But they have to try to pretend they are normal in public to blend in. Stay away from them at all costs. He never believed he needed professional help. Nothing you can do to help them so avoid them at all costs. Once you know, run away and never look back. I had to get a restraining order.

@notaclue822 2 месяца назад

@@cassandracross-soto4133 oh i am so not trying to help her.

@brugueshj559 2 месяца назад

I have this diagnose and what she says it's completely right. It's a spectrum. People in the comments act like she is saying all sociopaths are like me or her. She's not saying that. She's saying it's a spectrum and you shouldn't treat everyone with this disorder the same. There's a lot of us who only want to live a normal live, have relationships, job, a car and a home.

@emilyau8023 Месяц назад

I also have ASPD and I have no desire to make someone suffer anymore. I'm not sadistic like when I was little. I live according to rules and abide by set principles now even better than some neurotypicals. Honestly, people who won't be open minded aren't worth using logic with. They want to believe something we aren't. Let them be ignorant. We know the truth. Generalizing anything and anyone is super dumb and arguing with a dumb person is a waste.

@alexandrugheorghe5610 Месяц назад

Hi 😊

@nogodsnomasters6963 2 месяца назад

Wow there's so many ppl in this comment section here who very obviously lack empathy, as well a even BASIC critical thinking skills.. so utterly unaware of the traits they share with sociopaths!

@caddieohm7059 2 месяца назад

Explain yourself please

@kr3642 2 месяца назад

That's not true. Extreme reactions in these comments are rooted in fear and personal experience. Fear doesn't mean lack of empathy.

@shebreathesingold8043 4 дня назад

THANK YOU. All the people attacking a person with a disorder are really those who are projecting their own self-hatred. They have undiagnosed personality disorders that should get treated quickly!

@shebreathesingold8043 4 дня назад

@@kr3642 Let's be fair. You don't know what these reactions are rooted in. They can be rooted in fear and experience OR stereotypes, ignorance, hate, projection. Either way, it's unhealthy and not justifiable. People need to learn to regulate themselves and not espouse dangerous rhetoric of people simply because they have disordered personalities. We're way too civilized to be demonizing people like this author or calling her evil. Really, it's just ignorance.

@somethinggood9267 2 месяца назад

This is so weird. Trying to put sociopathy on a pedestal....what is the world coming to? People are so foolish these days.

@cece9770 2 месяца назад

How on earth did you think that this interview is putting sociopathy on a pedestal? 😂

@TuxieTude 2 месяца назад

@@cece9770I guess you didn't "hear" the questions she didn't ask. 😏

@emilyau8023 Месяц назад

It's not a pedestal. It's just information. Have you not researched anything before?

@Jennifer_150 2 месяца назад

You can’t “cognitively” learn the innate feeling of empathy, as she says she did. I believe that she *thinks* she can understand it; but it’s an extremely complex neuro-wired process that develops in-utero; and for vulnerable individuals, if not nurtured early, it’s never going to develop. Instead, I think she believes that “seeing” things from someone else’s point of view is the same. But it’s not. Empathy is the ability to literally *feel* what someone else is feeling… and thus, feel absolutely terrible, for instance, if you’ve caused pain to another human. Or, if you would trade someone else’s suffering for your own, to relieve them of pain. I wonder if this woman would *actually* do that if it meant saving her own child’s life. Probably not. And that’s a sociopath.

@brentblackburn976 2 месяца назад

Research psylocibin lsd and other drugs, youbare terribly informed and have a terrible understanding of the typical understanding of empathy which tends towarda an ego cwnyric projection of experience or alternatively an authoritative construct of pride/shame.

@monopthalmoss Месяц назад

But that runs along the same vein as empathy..compassion etc...theres a reason they don't feel guilty or shame either..because those emotions come from the same place so to speak..@@brentblackburn976

@Wild_Buggy 2 месяца назад

What an enlightening interview, one of the best I have seen on RU-vid! Thank you very much for sharing!

@kronos458 Месяц назад

What gaslighting too😂

@pearpo 2 месяца назад

With all due respect, a significant trait of personality disorders is they lie, especially for sympathy. They may not even understand (make a complete cognitive connection) that it is a lie. The example is when the guest claims “I would not touch anything when I broke into houses” which quickly shifted to “well I might to small things like turn off a stove that was on.” First these two statements made within a minute of verbal conversation, knowing it was a recorded interview, the sociopath said two very different things. Secondly, the sociopath breaking into to case people’s homes changed the story to suddenly becoming a hero, literally implying she saved lives by breaking in and turning off people’s stoves. Thirdly, I think this sociopath turned on the stove and then would pretend it was “left on” and they were a friggen superhero for breaking in to someone’s home to “turn off” the stove. Okay now it’s obvious the book was ghost written as she doesn’t know the facts. Many ghost write, but it is a convenient excuse to twist around the research but still try to speak knowledgeably. So take that portion of the interview with a grain of salt. What is interesting about the interview is you see how manipulative a sociopath may be. It almost seems like they keep reinventing “truth” to make themselves look “better and better” from their (disordered) perspective.

@jackdabbs1633 2 месяца назад

I thought lying for sympathy was a trait for regular average humans. Lol!

@notaclue822 Месяц назад

Right from the outset, she created a scenario that makes her look harmless as you out line here and everything that follows must be taken with a huge grain of salt. These people are highly adept at manipulation, but once you get it, you know better than to believe their entire presentation of who they are. That's how deep the lying goes.

@jackdabbs1633 Месяц назад

@notaclue822 It's probably not wise to belive any persons presentation of who they are without critical review. Whether they are lying or not, they may have blind spots. I hope people don't walk around trusting anything without recognizing that we're doing so...

@queenofthebutterflies5212 2 месяца назад

A psychopath is born a sociopath is made.

@queenofthebutterflies5212 2 месяца назад

@@serenity8876 Can you elaborate. I love this topic so much

@lindasacks8572 2 месяца назад

All three of my children are very different. I wonder why my middle son was antisocial.

@thia41012 2 месяца назад

That's how I have always understood it. Psychopathy is biological whereas Sociopathy comes more from how you are raised.

@queenofthebutterflies5212 2 месяца назад

@@lindasacks8572 Oh, my heart really goes out to you. I can't imagine how you must feel. I went through a difficult time with my son some years back and it just gnawed at my soul. You've obviously raised your children the same as one another I'm assuming from your comment. Has your son ever had any traumatic brain injuries? Bc that can be a cause of antisocial behaviour if there are not genetic or environmental factors.

@MonaLisaFaceMusic 2 месяца назад

The etiology is officially unknown.

@id9139 2 месяца назад

The charm offensive

@-cMc- Месяц назад

She wrote a book so in the interview she isn’t going to give it all away so ppl thinking she is being some type of way aren’t understanding the basics of marketing.

@kimmccaleb4170 2 месяца назад

One of her tells is nervpud laught. She us lying then. When she said she made and effort always to be hyper honest with her husband...she lied and laughed. I dont want to ne anywhere near the mind of someone like this

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

I thought so too

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

There's NO WAY her husband either knows or WANTS to know the truth

@Starfish2145 2 месяца назад

I can’t believe she’s married and had kids! Who would have kids with a sociopath?

@thevestalvirginspeaks3847 2 месяца назад

Men are sexually attracted to chaotic women.

@fridaytieday 2 месяца назад

Some men will root anything.

@mixedlag 2 месяца назад

You mean knowingly right? Because it happens all the time and unfortunately the victim has no idea til it's too late to prevent the marriage and kids.

@user-gb7vx5qu3h 11 дней назад

Her husband has no idea who he’s dealing with. Telling people you have no empathy, doesn’t mean that they can comprehend what that means. People being seen purely as objects to be used, is a bad thing, morally. It’s not a “stigma” to name it as a dangerous frame of mind.

@Kay2be2mr Месяц назад

But it's still scary to think that this woman is a mother. She talks about always talking without a filter, does she just tell her kids if they're looking not so pretty, looking fat? Any regards for her kid's emotions? If her kid hurts someone at school physically or emotionally, would she even care? If she sees another child in pain, would she care? It's all these extra little things that weren't asked, that bother me. It's not that I believe she will do something bad, it's the having someone around that doesn't emotionally care if they witness something bad. As a highly sensitive person, I can't imagine willingly having someone like this in my life.

@lauralarosa. Месяц назад

A real eye-opener, thank you.

@lesleyrussell825 2 месяца назад

Nearly finished this book. Fascinating insight into sociopaths

@queenofthebutterflies5212 2 месяца назад

Does it warn you about them? Bc it should!!!

@nhvkuy4675 2 месяца назад

@@queenofthebutterflies5212 and in that case it's a useless book

@artsy897 2 месяца назад

@@queenofthebutterflies5212I think just realizing the things she has done are very wrong are a warning. And she is very open with others about herself.

@AnnaMishel 2 месяца назад

Disorders that work, increase over time. Because people with those disorders mate and their children are more likely to inherit those disorders. We here as sociopaths may have been 5% of the population now it is much higher, because they mate.

@smm8401 Месяц назад

I am confused. She said she physically assaulted a girl when she was young. She said she assaulted the girl, not because she wanted to hurt her, but to release the “pressure” that was building up inside of her. Aren’t there other ways to release pressure-unless that “pressure” was a compulsion to carry out a deviant act, cause another person discomfort, or actually to find gratification in hurting someone? This pressure that needed to be released seems to be directly related to the act that was carried out in order to release it.

@Geo-p6y 2 месяца назад

I'm sorry,,,, in my opinion,,, under ANY circumstance is it ok To DELIBERATELY AND INTENTIONALLY harm another person just to Satisfy your own needs. 😡

@theonejokeking3191 Месяц назад

I think sociopaths are a lot more boring than people give them credit for. They simply lack empathy. That can result in behaviors that are harmful to others, but that’s not really the goal. They are simply without empathy. That’s it.

@Corina-dq2my 2 месяца назад

I don't believe that many people are psychopaths. I have met real psychopaths and most people aren't psychopaths. But, a lot of people don't have enough empathy I noticed. A lot of people aren't nice, they're not sympathetic enough.

@dulceoliveira3601 2 месяца назад

I agree

@tathe3786 2 месяца назад

So she generate money out of it! Do you really think she wants to improve? I don’t think so! It’s just a thrill she gets out of it! If it keeps her calm it’s ok but I think, to trust someone like her is real tricky!

@catnap8042 2 месяца назад

Everyone who writes a book want money out of it!

@tathe3786 2 месяца назад

@@catnap8042 no, there are others that wants to share their truth with us…and do this not just for the money

@dareal5401 8 дней назад

She did improve as far as she can. Cognitive empathy is the most empathy a sociopath can give. I also work the same, it someone looks sad i know how to act but dont feel it. But u can argue that me going as far as act like that is a form of empathy since i could also choose to just walk away

@tathe3786 8 дней назад

@@dareal5401 it’s ok with me!!! Do it as you can, give your best as I do to improve!!

@kp8972 2 месяца назад

We live in a culture of suicidal empathy. Back in the day if a sociopath was in a tribe they were removed swiftly and violently and would never get the chance to talk on RU-vid. Or ever again for that matter.

@artsy897 2 месяца назад

And yet we live in a world where if they are rich enough, smart enough to command a big business sucessfully everyone celebrates them, not excluding them.

@alexandrugheorghe5610 Месяц назад

Says kp8972 who writes us messages from "back in the day"

@hiddenechoes 2 месяца назад

I think a lot of my friends growing up had strong sociopathic tendencies. I like them fine, but I do remember a lot of challenges. I found making myself someone whose absence would inconvenience their lives is a big part of why we ended up friends. I believed as a kid that everyone would harm you if it wasn't in their best interests not to. So my, "befriend and be indispensible" game was strong, yet I also held strong boundaries where they mattered to me. A lot of friends who believed themselves to be sociopaths were well behaved because they could understand sociatal best interests. They mentioned the cognitive understanding then the emotional understanding. The discussions were always fascinating.

@TinhaRolfsdotter 2 месяца назад

You are correct.

@steph7960 2 месяца назад

And 90 percent of those are celebrities

@marymcquillan6417 2 месяца назад

And those in high power jobs where they don’t mind making cut throat decisions. Surgeons etc it could be said are suited to this personality type as they wouldn’t be emotionally involved - whereas an empathetic emotional being may feel the enormity of it all. Barristers, politicians etc come to mind too.

@Candidtamspeak 2 месяца назад

Most of them are narcissistic. All psychopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are psychopaths.

@susantaylor2937 2 месяца назад

*politicians, you mean

@kerryandersen4307 Месяц назад

I am very surprised to hear all of the negative comments. I am reading the book and it is absolutely fascinating. I am learning so much and highly recommend it to anyone who wants to educate themself on sociopathy.

@SarahFeldman-qi5rq 2 месяца назад

I knew a women that was sociopathic. She cheated on her long term bf over and over again and it was very painful to watch. She was pretty difficult to live with as a roommate. It was extremely difficult to have a relationship with when they don't have any empathy for your needs. It can be painful dealing with people with this disorder but they are humans worthy of love and forgiveness. Setting boundaries can be hard when your not use to it, but that is the best way to manage. Often I listened to her stories that made my skin crawl a bit, but ultimately she was trying to open up and get relief.

@kennypham3856 2 месяца назад

Very interesting!

@innerpeacewithdenise111 2 месяца назад

What an amazing and enlightening conversation. Thank you both ladies. I’ve often wondered about sociopathy and how different it may be from what had been written about it when I tried to research it around 12 years ago following my thus far only encounter with a diagnosed sociopath. I’d not even heard of it prior to this. For him, according to his mother, it wasn’t a from birth thing but something that shifted in him around aged 11. I wonder if someone encounters something particularly traumatic if they can shut off so deeply in avoidance of feeling the emotions related to the trauma, that everything, all the emotions can shut down rather than it be, as is the case here with Patric, that it’s inherent in the original make-up. This was so interesting and insightful. Thanks again ❤️

@user-gb7vx5qu3h 11 дней назад

Is there such a thing as, “struggling with sociopathy”? There’s no struggle involved. People are objects to them. They can learn to go through the motions of empathic behavior to be socially appropriate, but there are no morals involved insofar as balancing one’s interests with those of another person of equal value and worth. There are no other persons; only sets of rules that impose a scaffold around the person. In a weak moment, the objectified “others” will be sacrificed without remorse. The appearances of scruples are for show, and convenience in making their life work better. That’s all.

@karentonks7581 2 месяца назад

Oh, this will be interesting

@jlvandat69 Месяц назад

I know the term "sociopath" can be applied to a wide range of personalities, but if you briefly narrow the definition to include anyone who lacks compassion and empathy, and feels no remorse when acting in ways that purposefully cause harm to others, then I would confidently estimate the percentage of people with such a disorder is more like 10-15% of the population. I have personally dealt with dozens of such people, many of which had 'normal' careers in management, medicine, etc.

@jessmarie12901 Месяц назад

i think she just wants to highlight the fact that not every person with aspd is evil like colors there are multiple shades of the disorder from the most evil persom to someone who is just lacking in social skills, emotions and empathy but they dont go out and destroy lives or hurt ppl

@cleo1074 2 месяца назад

THANK YOU. Finally I can get insight into my boyfriend who has a darkness inside of him due to his heartbreaking upbringing.. and how he has build his life up and became such a strong person. He could have went down very negative paths but he didn't, he now has the life he deserves.

@RationalNon-conformist Месяц назад

It’s more common than we think :/ HG Tudor has NPD at 16%.. I wonder what percentage of the world’s population are true sociopaths.. I learned that all sociopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopaths.

@t3tsuyaguy1 2 месяца назад

There is something so delightfully perverse about discussing empathy for sociopaths. I totally agree with it. But it still makes me chuckle.

@peacefulpath222 2 месяца назад

There’s probs not a lot of information & support out there re sociopathy, as typically people with this don’t tend to seek support or a diagnosis?

@Jennotfound34 2 месяца назад

I would like to get with you on this note as well. I have experienced some very divine intervention possibilities, exactly for the reasons that you are saying, spotting them and being able to salvage is actually possible.

@bee18825 2 месяца назад

How on earth are empathy, guilt, remorse and love *learned*?! I was born with it. I don’t know anybody who isn’t anti social who wasn’t. Just because 5% weren’t born with it doesn’t mean 95% weren’t.

@paumoscoso 2 месяца назад

Exactly!!! Normalizing this is not great… how can you be a therapist and mother? She may cognitively understand love and empathy but doesnt feel it! If she did then she’s not a psychopath… poor kids!

@Space_Princess 2 месяца назад

Humans usually have to be taught how to be empathetic and kind. This is why children steal toys other kids are playing with, lash out because they're jealous of their sibling, hit because they can't get their own way. Empathy develops as a child gets old because of mirror neurons. Empathy is taught, not something we are born with but some people lack mirror neurons and the ability to develop the pathways in their mind to develop empathy. It does go much deeper than this though when it comes to brain development

@iUnderstand 2 месяца назад

Psychopathy is the one a person is born with (unless they got into some type of accident or had some issue with their brain that occurred). Sociopathy develops from the environment. If this lady is saying that type of thing that you mention in your comment, she is making stuff up.

@iUnderstand 2 месяца назад

@@AK-bx3ftI'm not really a fan of the term "abuse". Overused. If you're going to be so broad about it, might as well just call it "nature vs. nurture". I mean that in the kindest way.

@tiffanyfournier2985 2 месяца назад

So interesting!

@thegoodlightllc4093 Месяц назад

She does not have a job, she has a career. It was interesting to hear the host say she maontains a job.

@RecoveringHermit 2 месяца назад

46:05 love Fearne’s reaction to this 🤣

@Khanaification 2 месяца назад

Where is the link for the feedback please? 🙂

@cdd4572 2 месяца назад

Yes of course there's a f**king stigma around the term. Been said in other comments in various ways but this tendency now to try to redefine concepts and in effect sympathise with them is so foolish and dangerous. A diagnosis doesn't have to have the person engaging in some sort of filmstyle violence to it for it to be valid - it just has to represent a series of traits that we wouldn't really wish on another person (or wish on the people who are forced to spend time with them)

@MonaLisaFaceMusic 2 месяца назад

Psychopathy exists on a spectrum. Sociopathy is not a valid diagnosis, its all degrees of psychopathy. It's not like she is "psychopath lite"... she is a degree of psychopath and for that reason, I'm not going to buy her book or listen to this interview. All she will do is lie. I don't wish her harm, I am merely not interested in being lied to.

@leslieacoca5876 2 месяца назад

Tee author's entire identity, work life and academic credentials are unverifiable.

@MellowBellow1 2 месяца назад

People pleasing is insecure. It’s not that the majority of people are people pleasing. These are false dichotomies. Secure people don’t care about what stranger’s think. There is emotion around people being hurt.

@synneazaro 2 месяца назад

Always the victim.. but thank you for the honesty ❤

@cherylrleigh1912 2 месяца назад

If sociopathy exists on a spectrum, individuals like Susan Smith, who infamously murdered her children in 1994, would likely be situated at the extreme end, bordering on psychopathy. Conversely, those positioned at the lower end of this spectrum, as suggested by the author, may have potential for treatment aimed at effectively managing their disorder. Something that should be acknowledged is that sociopaths exist because there is a necessity for their unique traits. Highly empathic individuals, while deeply attuned to emotions, may not always possess the emotional resilience required for tasks that necessitate a lack of empathy. This contrast sheds light on why leadership roles often find better alignment with individuals who possess such traits.

@heide-raquelfuss5580 2 месяца назад

Everybody can turn into a sociopath and killer. I am convinced of that. Btw. Look around you. From bottom up, to bottom low... I have seen, met, observed, many humans, who do not care, are hard, but all learn to mask. We all learn to lie very early on to navigate life. We gaslight, manipulate... We do all necessary to avoid punishment, ridicule, humiliation shame, being slapped ( spilling the milk as a toddler for example ) by mom, dad or they get angry and you want to avoid this in the future. You learn to lie and so on for selfpreservation in all kind of ways. You get better after each experiences. All people motivate you to build pressure up... We as primates are not as easy to live with and we learn from it every single day.

@user-gb7vx5qu3h 11 дней назад

She doesn’t mention the harm to OTHERS of her stalking and home-break-in crimes. She says it was a “strategy” to meet her needs, that she chose to shift so as to avoid jail and consequences. Being blonde and female and pretty, probably prevented her from the punitive consequences , including being diagnosed with a more serious diagnosis, that a male person of color, would not have been spared. The “blonde advantage” has kept her thinking that her lawlessness was tolerable and not so bad. It’s all about appearances and lifestyle to her…fitting in. She never acknowledges the negative impacts on others’ lives, from how she violated their homes and privacy.

@user-gb7vx5qu3h 11 дней назад

Why even be human, if this interviewer sees empathy as such a weakness? These are the dangers of AI. Caring and having a moral compass, matters, even if painful or inconvenient.

@clarissawright6378 2 месяца назад

I love this. Patric is really courageous and inspirational, not only for other sociopaths out there, but for the neurodiverse, or anyone struggling with being the way the way they were born. But I have always been curious about different ways to diagnosing aspergers, sociopathy and psychopathy, I also always wondered whether we should really demonise a sociopath, and I do think there are those out there who do not want to admit to this label. Which makes them getting help harder. We need to destigmatise this.

@debbieparnell7582 2 месяца назад

Hi, that's great you are learning and I have more feedback there.... I'm not liking the use of 'Aspergers' here. As an autistic person, I fully agree with the destigmatisation of all forms of neurodivergence and it's important for the sake of not contributing to misinformation to not group autistic people so closely with conditions associated with barriers to empathy (in the same way we shouldn't conflate schizophrenia with dissociative identity disorder). 1. Autism does not affect empathy (see the 'double empathy issue' that people best relate to those that think like them so the communication gap is mutual but as autistic people we get scapegoated and expected to be the only ones working to resolve it - despite being deemed disabled) 2. We now use the label Autistic Spectrum Disorder for all levels of support needs because 3. Hans Aspergers supported the Nazi's and was responsible for sending autistic people to their deaths.

@clarissawright6378 2 месяца назад

@@debbieparnell7582 I was not aware of that context behind the term but thank you for informing me this! I am also autistic and neurodiverse so support your premise.

@debbieparnell7582 2 месяца назад

@@clarissawright6378 you're welcome! It does make sense wanting to learn more about what other stigmatised conditions really mean from lived experience rather than assumptions.

@Sad_bumper_sticker. 2 месяца назад

As an Autistic Adult I must correct the misleading Diagnostic Myth that Autistic people have low emotional empathy and cognitive empathy. This used to be a diagnostic cryterion decades ago and is no longer used by up-to-date and informed Autistm Diagnosticians. I am autistic and have strong empathy and many, many autistic people on FB groups have discussed how the debunked sbtereotype about autistic people having no/little empathy is unfair. Some autistic people have empathy and some don’t. Society only focuses on and movies portray those autistic people who don’t have empathy. So as Autistic People we are under the Neurodivergence Umbrella with all diverse brain differences but we share few dominating traits with Sociopaths.

@Jae-by3hf 2 месяца назад

As an autistic person, the term aspergers doesn’t bother me, but we are not sociopathic and would not like to be lumped into that basket, thank you! Sociopaths et al, can find a new term to talk about their brains differences!

@VictoriaViolet1849 2 месяца назад

Listened to the audiobook it was quite interesting

@MattyLiam333 Месяц назад

Your story at the beginning about being 7 and pretending to care about things is sooooo relateable. I didn't. I was never really sorry either when I hit other kids or said something mean. I just had no feelings about it. I'm convinced the sociopaths are sages in training from former lives. Now I'm 51 and the most emotional mature person I know. No therapy, no drugs. Just quit drinking over a year ago on my own too. Deep into my spiritual practices these days.

@pinkwheels1313 7 дней назад

Not necessarily talking about you here as I don't know you, but Q: Maturation is a stage of advancement of something. How can a person be emotionally mature if they haven't experienced the emotions they claim to have maturity over? Someone with limited emotion can behave emotionally mature, but they will not understand the depth of emotional experience that belies that behaviour (they'll just be mimicking it).

@rongike 2 месяца назад

as an empath (the opposite end of the spectrum) I can relate to not caring about what other people think about me, it's not about me, I genuinely don't want them to feel discomfort bc I feel their discomfort, if they're in discomfort so am I, it's not about improving my social status or whatever all these neurotypical people are obsessed with, I'll actually make myself smaller so I don't have to FEEL their jealousy..

@user-rh9jg9fu7z 2 месяца назад

Yes.

@timothyprice7446 2 месяца назад

Wow, that is so true. I never realized that I do that as well. What an insight. Thank you for posting that.

@barbaramoore6111 2 месяца назад

An opportunist, not a sociopath. . .

@philipholding Месяц назад

When I worked in a secure unit, I was told by a psychiatrst, that the difference between a psychopath and sociopath, is that sociopaths have genuine empathy, shame and guilt etc, after doing nasty things. But they just go ahead and do more nasty things, and the cycle starts again.

@rizen9457 2 месяца назад

I understand the interviewer having empathy for this woman, but interpersonally, sociopaths are harmful. Period.

@rongike 2 месяца назад

what's actually harmful is a society that doesn't allow people to be different and doesn't have the resources for different personality types to mature and find their place without being constantly traumatized by the bandwagoners insisting on their way being the only way.

@jasminebarratt1809 2 месяца назад

@@rongike I would say dysfunctional rather than different, there needs to be understanding of why that is.

@rongike 2 месяца назад

@@jasminebarratt1809 then 99% of society is dysfunctional from my empath's perspective

@TB0991 2 месяца назад

@@rongike No one stops these people being "different" they are perfectly normal (and clever at presenting that picture) until they choose to cause harm on others from "built up tension". I can't believe you are victimising them. You've clearly never encountered a Sociopath to have such a viewpoint. If anything, they are overtly confident, cocky, bully types who are well respected in schools and workplaces due to their dominance and you are coming along and saying we need to help them find their place and stop traumatising them? You have no idea what you're talking about.

@rongike 2 месяца назад

@@TB0991 I wasn't only talking about them, most people are unhappy in this bandwagoning society where differences are shunned, if society wasn't so cruel I wonder if sociopaths would even exist.

@louisegriffin6672 2 месяца назад

Fascinating

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@redrum3835 2 месяца назад

Do sociopaths attract each other as they move into the same towns or hang out in the same areas?

@dareal5401 8 дней назад

Speaking for myself i find it fun to one up eachother in doing certain things. But only met another due to certain activities.

@camellia8625 2 месяца назад

Bravo to this woman for being so candid and vulnerable given the immense stigma for this condition.

@anamembrives3411 Месяц назад

You didn't understand anything, I hope you don't encounter a spycopath in your life because you'll be doomed.

@alexandrugheorghe5610 Месяц назад

Geez. I'd really like to meet a spycopath

@user-kc2xn3lu5k 2 месяца назад

Is it just me or do they look like twin sisters?

@christinechurch8181 2 месяца назад

This is why messiah offers us a new heart. Our heart is our will and desires, our feelings and intellect is our souls. Our spirit is our words, which is a record of our hearts. Biblical definitions.

@beyondthemedicine-LYTmarketing 3 дня назад

I would love to know the percentage of substance abuse issues in the community of sociopaths. I believe I dated a psychopath (with brain abnormalities) rather than a sociopath as she describes it here or a secondary psychopath but he was non-violent. Salt he was also clueless about this particular set of traits. The issue was not the lack of emotion, it was the substance abuse. In substance abuse the people that keeps people trapped is the reoccurrence of emotion when they stop their substance but it seems one without a range of emotions is keeping substance abuse in place for other reasons. Perhaps stimulation with uppers but what role do depressants serve?

@drawingmomentum 2 месяца назад

I don't trust this sociopath any more than I would a cloaking one. Once a sociopath, always a sociopath.

@Jahtutson 2 месяца назад

I haven't read the book, but from the little you are sharing here, it sounds more like common sense. Why not ask why? If someone else has made up rules, why not make up your own rules. Especially if they are making sense and not pretending. It's funny, a lot of these thoughts are on point with autism.