Creepy, you mean beautiful. Oh how I remember fondly multiplayer, lighting up both needlers at long range and seeing someone not even realizing they're already dead before the first needle hits...
OH YES!!!Halo 2 was one of the best,if not THE best Halo game yet,once me and some friends had a hacked server which basically went as follows. 1:Endless ammo clip,no reloading and no running out of ammo. 2:Increase weapon damage by 500% and vehicle damage by 400%. 3:This one made 2 pointless really,we just enjoyed the fact that we did more damage,2500% shield strength and 250% shield recovery rate,vehicles got 2000% health. 4:You could dual wield ANYTHING,ran around with 2 energy swords because let's face it,seeing elites do it,it looks awesome. 5:Player movement speed was set at 300%,jump height at 200%. It.Was.Awesome.
fun fact: the Spartan 2's were made before contact with the covenant. They weren't made to save humanity from a genocidal alien race, they were made to annihilate those who would violently object the same government who would commit something like the Spartan program in the first place. also, Cortana's trying to commit subjugation on all the orion arms races while the flood, an alien race capable of taking down a much more advanced and resourceful civilization is still at large in the galaxy. while the two protagonist factions are lead by a genocidal dictator and a ruthless secret service. the more you think about what little halo lore their is the darker it gets
Yeah, given how fucked up the UNSC can be (and especially ONI), you can kind of understand the Insurrectionists. The innies did fucked up shit too, absolutely, but a lot of it pales to what the UNSC has done to maintain its grasp
What ONI did in the Spartan programs was absolutely not ethical or justifiable, because they did this during a time where the UNSC's biggest enemies were just rebels, meaning that they weren't trying to save humanity from extinction. It was, however, incredibly lucky, and wound up being necessary.
They were facing an eternal war Dr Halsey ran advanced projections that put the best case scenario as a 20-year long war with billions dead. Worst case was eternal war. No foreseeable end to it, trillions of deaths
Yeah, had they been made to combat the covenant it would have been justified, but the spartan 2 program was started around 20 years before humanity first encountered the covenant and by the time the war with the covenant actually fully broke out the 3s were already a thing
I remember playing Halo Wars and in the campaign where you had to find missing elephants in a wasteland. You can find missing ODSTs and I remember one of em said "one bit me back there .....something's wrong I feel funny"
ThechiefisBEAST - yeah. Saddest line after I realised he was infected then I led the squad away from my little army just to see him kill the rest of the odst squad
that was my favorite mission and I did found the odsts and I heard one said that I also felt the same way but I saved them but I did kept on eyes on the squad and I had that squad quarantine with 4 flamers ready to burn that squad if that odst turned and I was in my base for 5 fucking hours just to make sure that odst was not going to turn in the worst time and the where's parts is that odst did not fucking turn on me so and other words it is just there to make to scary and I wasted time and resources to quarantine that fucker but yeah free odst squad
I wonder if their parents ever got saved by a spartan that just so happened their kid and they never even knew. That would be a really nice short story.
In fact, if I remember my lore correctly, they were responsible for initially arming the Jul'Mdama fundamentalist Elite faction. That's right, ONI helped create the faction of Covenant Elites Master Chief ends up having to fight in Halo 4 and afterwards. ONI did this to secretly inspire rebellion against the Arbiter's rule, and ensure the Elites fell into civil war, and weaken their race. The Arbiter, likely unaware of ONI involvement in stirring the rebellion, remained closely allied with the UNSC throughout the Elite Civil War.
@@enchantressdeath1289 no they imprisoned Jul and he eventually broke out and was teleported to the world where another ancient rebel group of elites had fled to centuries before. They did, however, then aid both side of the elite civil war in Hope's to weaken them enough to never be a threat to humanity.
Regarding the Spartan program, I believe a quote from Red vs. Blue would decide my point of view on the situation: "It is an undeniable and may I say fundamental quality of man that when faced with extinction... every alternative is preferable."
look at my good music playlist Excellent! You may have to wait several seasons to see this quote but it’s totally worth it! And you’ll understand it better.
To this day, the Flood lore and capabilities still frighten me. To have such a technologically advanced species like the Forerunner Ecumene to fall to what people call a mere parasite is... intriguing and terrifying.
"I?....I am a monument, to all your sins." 2nd creepiest line in the entire series, second only to this line from the same scene: 2401 PENITENT TANGENT: "...This installation has a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual. It is ready to fire on demand." The way they just casually slipped in there the confirmation that the rings were fired in the past and sterilized the universe of life, and that all of humanity grew out of that, is shocking.
The creepy thing to me about the flood is that when they assimilate somebody, that person's memories are added to the gravemind. So every time the flood add biomass they get more intelligent and as such very rapidly become unbeatable
I'm okay with no flood if MC awakens to the blood of the Iso Didact inside him and gets powers like what the Ur Didact had,but that would go best with the Flood because they are the only thing that would justify that kind of power.At least give him an orange glow and maybe have Prometheans and such appearing as allies throughout the game.
So basically, john was taken from his family and replaced by a clone which died later on, was put through a project that would of given him a small chance of surviving. And then oni decided to frame the master chief (john) as a traitor *ouch*
I first played Halo when I was 6 (2001), instantly fell in love with the character of John. Saw him as a bloody legend, a god. Love his character so much, I sent everyday OUTSIDE pretending that I was John177, that I was part of this superhuman program by this high up black ops government (whose kind of corrupt, but put in place by Bush). I lived each day pretending I was John. Halo was more than just a game for me. He's inspirational for me. With the spartan program, I think it was necessary but they could have done the kid snatching and indoctrination a whole different way. But Halsey did it, made a 'demon' [Covenant word for him] He along with Cortana were able to win the wars (speaking up until the end of Halo 3). At least he has a spartan lady friend who has it in for him. Kelly is it? Part of Blue team. With the Flood part. I am soooo glad they're just fictional. Almost infected Chief if not for Cortana give the infector a electric ZAPP! So even spartans aren't entirely immune to this infection, exception Avery Johnson. Thinking of what a person in their last moments before being killed by the flood takeover, is horrifying! Those easy to kill flood infection popping forms actually tap into your spine and nervous system, that's the start of how they begin to take over. Just makes me shivers. I don't know which would be worse, the flood here or the Necromorph infection in The Dead Space series. Maybe the flood is worse than the Necromorph infection as you're still alive for a only a few more seconds feeling it's tendrils digging into your nervous system spine. Whereas the Necromorphs [creatures] majority of it all just kill ya first then fuck up your body. So flood scare me more.
@@orangvii3633this poor sweet summer child needs to read The Flood, see the Halo CE terminal about Keyes, and read the Forerunner Trilogy or watch some more Hidden Experia. It... doesn't end.
So... I'll have you know the Halo universe is actually an incredibly disturbing place... What else Halo-related would you like to see a top of? Let me know!
Gravemind campaign, walking into the room with brutes and elites. First time you hear Blow Me Away by Breaking Benjamin...you forget you're on Legendary and are compelled to just right down and start trying to kick ass. Classic footnote of my teenage years. This is what literally got me listening to more angsty, hard rock.
Correct me if I’m wrong because I probably am but weren’t the Spartans made to get rid of insurrection, like weren’t most Spartans made prior to the knowledge of the covenants existence
RG 12 yeah, the spartan program started before that but the testing wasn't anywhere near as bad. Spartans were sent in on occasions to take out insurrection groups that were causing their regular foot soldiers problems. Good example of this is your avatar in Halo Reach: Noble 6 , took down entire insurrection groups single handedly, and he did other things too but as kat said "its covered in black ink"
@@rangerleaf1505 I’m sorry, but He’s probably dead my guy. Lopez too. Whoever won, there wasn’t enough time for them to escape the blast radius. And even if one of them did somehow escape, ONI would have silenced them to cover up their wrongdoings (and because Henry is technically still covenant). The really tragic thing about Henry is, considering his unusual willingness to work with and even protect humans, he probably would have joined the swords of Sanghelios if he survived.
Random video idea for you: 'Obscure Badasses in the Halo Universe'. I.E, Spartans/Elites/Marines etc in the lore who did incredibly badass things but aren't talked about often.
So the history is one day some precursors came over to the milky way and made some forerunners and humans for some reason. The precursors then gave the mantle of responsibility (which I am not sure what that totally is, is it like superpower overlord control?) to the humans. The forerunners became jealous and try to kill all the precursors. The precursors either left the galaxy or turned into dust except one who was caught, known as the primordial. The dusty precursors then turned into the flood while the forerunners were trying to kill the humans in their own war. The forerunners died fighting the humans and flood and then the humans got devolved into back on earth. The primordial got mad at being a prisoner so he made mendicant bias to be able to also hurt the forerunners. So essentially the forerunners were sore losers and died off, the humans are trying to kill some rando aliens while also killing the flood who are probably the most powerful enemies to have ever existed. Such a fascinating lore. (also let me know if I am missing anything important or I got something wrong. Thanks)
Justin Norman The Mantle of Responsibility is the protection of the galaxy in simple terms. You have the power to help but cannot kill off species at will (conservation measures). Faba defies this when creating the Halos and initiating the sequence to killing off every species in the galaxy to stop the Flood. Of course this is coming from the Forerunners so take a whole shit load of salt with this. They probably got confused by the fact that the Flood are unstoppable...
The mantle essentially gives its holders 'rule' over the galaxy. Not control, per se, more like a degree of responsibility to make sure the all the species in the galaxy survive. Not that there can't be wars, in fact the mantle acknowledges warring species, just that its holders ensure no war completely wipes a species out of existence. In regards to the Precursors, we don't know how many turned themselves into dust and how many went into stasis. It's highly likely that a majority of them ground themselves down, whereas a number went into stasis, but the Primordial was the only one that did who was found. The Forerunners fought the humans because they began invading their region of space, little did they know they were only doing that because they were running from the Flood, and as a consequence, the Forerunners wiped Ancient Humanity out and reset them back to the stone age, and the Flood 'retreated' so it could rally back. When they did rally back, they fucked the Forerunners up majorly, one of those ways was, yeah, by corrupting Mendicant, essentially crippling the entire Forerunner military and causing them to create Offensive Bias - a direct counter to Mendicant. So, yeah, you were pretty much bang on :) Good summary!
Justin Norman Actually, at first the humans weren't just killing the Forerunners. They were actually fighting the Flood, and cleansing worlds before the Forerunners even knew the flood and Humans existed. It just happens that some of these Flood worlds were Forerunner, and the Humans didn't explain ahead of time, so the Forerunners just assumed the Humans are massacring Forerunners and fought back.
I think you missed quite a lot of creepy things in the halo universe... Especially some of the newer lore regarding the Forerunner Overwatch network and the anomalies... "Threats" by Forerunners and Precursors, "...prisons, marked by crystallized shards of time, tempt the unwary." - Halo Warfleet Just saying man the thought of the forerunners having these secret highly sophisticated prisons scattered around the Milky Way galaxy containing crazy threats is pretty damn spooky! Begs the question if there are bigger threats than the flood?
I've been running into some really good RU-vid channels that have had a lot of good halo content lately I'm so glad halo is making a semi comeback to RU-vid
Thanks :) I'm doing all I can, trust me haha. We've taken so many hits over recent years yet we're still here with dedicated content creators hitting 6 figures, that's gotta mean something in terms of our chances of a comeback lol
You should do a whole video on ONI they are one on the most interesting aspects of the Halo universe and always gives me chills when I read about them.
There's actually one other shocking event in Halo. Grunts, riot in High Charity, grunt's homeworld glassed by an arbiter. I'm sure some will get what I mean by these words!
Yeah didn’t they get taken advantage of because of their reproduction levels? Prophet of truth took them in back then they weren’t even allowed to have guns. Basically he took them to be bullet sponges
Yeah. The grunts rebelled because they were literally being used as cannon fodder (they were sent into combat with no weapons or armor and were expected to simply eat the bullets for the "more important' soldiers). Then to top it off the Kig'Yarr were planning on putting chemicals into the recreational drugs (essentially equivalent to weed) that the grunts like to used that would sterilize them. And the Covenant hierarchy found out and was planning on ignoring it.
1:45 Lol everyone in the UNSC knew of Reach. It was one of humanity's first and largest colonies. I think you confused it with Onyx, the planet where the Spartan 3's where trained :p
@@mysticdn2595 I think you are missing what he was saying with that second part of your reply. He wasn't saying that he(HiddenXperia) was confused as to where the Spartan 2's were trained, but he was confused as to which planet was unknown by the majority of the human population. Reach was a VERY well known planet by basically everyone. It would most likely have been taught about in your standard middle school history class because of how damn important it was to Human History. But Onyx was only really known to ONI.
Nick Gurr technically a different species in the same family. The forerunners bred the Lekgolo into that species of worm to fight the flood. But it did not work out.
Here’s a great idea for a fanfic: what if Emile killed the Field Marshal during Winter Contingency? How would the rest of the campaign for Reach play out??
I'm suprised I'm not seeing any comments about one incorrect comment Xperia made. While yes the Halo array shut the Domain, in the Halo Fractures story "Promises to Keep" the last of Forerunners activate it again. This is very important to the lore, too. Because in Halo 4, the Domain is still active because the last of Forerunners activated it again.
The thing I find really terrifying about the logic plague is it seems to be similar to the kind of brainwashing I experienced myself when I found myself in an extremely abusive relationship... it's amazing how much someone can truly force their perspective on you when your at their mercy, and next thing I knew I'd just helped them assualt a friend I care deeply for because they someone twisted it into seeming like the right thing to do. Honestly the idea of something being able to do the same thing to something that not only outstrips me in sheer processing power with more knowledge at it's disposal than I could ever learn let alone keep track of but also has sophisticated safeguards specifically meant to keep it from being tampered with is so fucking terrifying.
Yeah, when i learned the Spartan program backstory before playing Reach i was def surprised how dark it was. Basically all the badass legendary spartans ( up to the model II) are brainwashed kids who are the last of their training groups. They also never list the saprtans as dead, as a means of propaganda, they only list them as MIA so there are other spartan II's besides Chief who are just kind of lost in space in some cases.
Reach was massive colony with a booming economy, that alone should be enough to tell you it's a well known and important planet, and that's without the fact that the UNSC tried to keep the covenant from learning the location of Earth and Reach
Barry Allen its simply ignorance. Resch is a large planet aye. By the time the children were kidnapped reach could have not been a widely known planet to sll humanity
When you mentioned the flood bite possibility, I remembered that it actually is possible to be bitten by a Flood form. If the flood form hasn't mutated before reanimation, it can bite any other biomass nearby to infect it. I know because it happened in the Halo Evolution Story: "The Mona Lisa".
Witted Acrobat19 At least the Inquisition makes their atrocities known, albeit the Inquisition DOES fight against Deamons and shit so they MIGHT be a bit justified when it comes to them blowing up planets for the sake of Humanity.
They're the biggest fuckers in Halo Lore! They could develop hightech weapons and other technologies for the war effort and assasinate high ranking Covenant leaders but nooooo they sit on their lazy asses all day expecting the crappy unsc to do all the work. They're useless and the only thing they can do is killing innocents and allies.
Nice vid man, I knew stuff about the logic plague and stuff but learned some new stuff as well, always happy to learn more about my favorite game franchise
With regards to the creation of the Spartan II, I think a quote from Leonard Church sums it up perfectly: “It is an undeniable, and may I say, a fundamental quality of humanity, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable.”
SUPREME EMPEROR MITTENS it was just a joke. Halos creators probably never thought about that and simply just say it’s too horrible to speak of to be lazy writers
It was either that there was no cure to the Flood, as they had previously thought - or that the Precursors were behind the Flood - or that Domain had witnessed against them somehow...
If anything it should have lead to the ancient humans attacking the Forerunners while working with the Primordial,it would have made sense,the Precursors created the Flood for revenge on the Forerunners for betraying the Precursors who gave them everything.After all,the Primordial was a Gravemind-Precursor hybrid so it knew the truth and had 100% control over the Flood.If ancient humanity worked with the Primordial,the Flood would have likely only been used against the Forerunners and once they were gone the Primordial would have probably chosen to leave the universe alone because it got its vengeance and the beings left in control of the universe could be trusted and knew what was best for the universe. And if the Primordial didn't leave the universe alone,ancient humans would have already had the cure for the Flood,which ancient humans DID have before they were killed by the Forerunners,in a war they would have easily won if they hadn't been fighting the Flood prior to the war.Ancient humanity was actually nearing the levels of the Precursors in technology and were way beyond the Forerunners.
It's not a grey area. Billions upon billions of people could die, but a hundred or so kids are fine. Or we mess up a hundred or so kids, and save billions of people, and save humanity as a whole, AND prevent the galaxy from complete and total extinction at the hands of Halo rings. It's obvious which one we choose.
This is coming from someone with the name God Emperor of Mankind. 100 kids is fucking nothing compared to the WW1 & WW2 amount of lives the Imperium spends on the daily.
They didn't even make the Spartans to fight the Covenant, they made them to better suppress the colonies. Also, something can be necessary without being a morally good thing to do, hence the phrase necessary evil. What ONI did in the Halo lore is reprehensible, but it is what had to happen.
NCR Elite Riot Officer No,they are not evil.It is you who is just too dumb and childish to understand that tremendous sacrifices are necessary to protect humanity,be it against the aliens (covenant-human war) or itself (insurectionists etc).Yes,they hurt many humans in the process but they did that because they believed this is the best way to protect humans,not because they are a group a sadist who like to see peope suffering.If you were to chose between securing stability and prosperiry for humanity(in general) with a few thousand sacrifices or assure that humanity is split once again into various waring factions and eventually killed of by the aliens or even worse by itself,what would you chose.You can say that there were alternatives.Ok then,give some exemples which would be as efficient and with as much success rate as the methods ONI used.You can cry that what they did was inhumane or bullshit like that,but you know whats more inhumane?The fact that you would forsake the unity/peace of humanity and its future because you are too cowardly to dirty your hands.I dont blame ONI for what they did,since I view it as necessary.I am writing such a long reply because I saw you everywhere in the comment section talking about how butthurt you were about the methods ONI used and how they 'were evil' without giving any alternative solution to the problems they faced.If you want to criticies someone's answer to a problem then you firsthand need to give a viable answer yourself.If you are not able to then stfu.
Devasis chill out man....this is up for debate. Their methods were clearly for evil intent. As they did not have to kidnap/clone and then brainwash them. Forcing kids against their will and their parents will. That choice of doing for the greater good should have been their parents or child's decision not ONI's. Through volunteers.
Please do 1 video about Halo foods, do they eat the same things we eat today? Do Spartans just eat a bit more than regular humans or do they have specialized food just for them like the space marines?
I know the Flood came from the dust of Precursors, but what happened? I hear from something I watched that the Flood was made from human experiments on the dust. This made me question that. Have the makers of the Halo lore ever confirmed how the Flood got created?
The dust was found by ancient humanity, was shared with the ancient prophets since ancient humanity and the prophets has an alliance, and then used on pets. Forerunners have no idea where it came from. They likely didn't know the dust originated from enraged Precursors who wanted revenge.
Well maybe they said something along the lines of they meant to be corrupted the whole time and their purpose is nothing more than to cease all life they once created. That would probably make one kill themselves because there is no fathomable way to destroy the flood from reaching the precursors goal
Wha... how did 343 make Halo kid friendly? Halo 1 / 2 and 3 (and Reach) never really explained these things aswell. Most people that played through all Halo games wouldn't have known about (all) of these things, just because they weren't in the games.
KILLimanjaro Unfriggenbelievable While you are right about the outcome, ONI and Halsey didn't know about the covenant until much later. So does that make it ethically okay? Who knows.
KILLimanjaro Unfriggenbelievable in the end, it was worth it, since a Spartan and his AI were able to save humanity from extinction, even though it was by a mere coincidence. Still doesn't make it right. If they had started with a Spartan III or IV style program, then it wouldn't be so frowned upon
The fact that the project was started purely to quell Wrongthink and rebellion in the outer colonies makes it wrong morally and ethically of Halsey and ONI to capture, clone, drug, maim and disfigure kids without consent. On the other hand, it's talked about in some of the more interesting moments of the snore-inducing grind-fest that is the Kilo Five trilogy of books - that a few of the kids (the ones who survived the program) came from places where much worse fates than a few years of pain would have awaited them sooner or later. Some were ripped from loving families, but some were _rescued_ by ONI.
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