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Here's five jobs you can do to build time or make a career out of when you hit 500hrs total time as a pilot.
Below are links to some of the companies we reviewed. The pay and compensation packages they offer are always changing as companies are searching harder and harder for pilots. Give them a call or check out their website to see the most up to date information.
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@stevesanderson8360
@stevesanderson8360 5 лет назад
I used to be in adult films. Like a jumper pilot, was paid by the load.
@officialf.b.i9519
@officialf.b.i9519 5 лет назад
TheTrooper 98Vlog yikes
@guacd9000
@guacd9000 4 года назад
ffs lol
@f.b.i2115
@f.b.i2115 4 года назад
...
@prancer1803
@prancer1803 2 года назад
Haha!
@BillsandBongs
@BillsandBongs 3 месяца назад
nice
@johnrad14
@johnrad14 5 лет назад
I earn 100k flying 280 hours a year! I'm a aerial applicator (crop duster). First spraying season I had 220 hours total time. Only made 25k, that's in the 2 month season, and then second season got a bigger plane and did 80k, just did my 3rd season and cleared 100k. Flying stick and rudder all day and loving every minute of it!
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Johnny Loewen So how did you buy a bigger plane on 25k?
@johnrad14
@johnrad14 5 лет назад
@@mzaite Not purchased, I work for a company, started flying in a C188 and then got moved into a Airtractor 402 with some experience
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Johnny Loewen Ahhh I gotcha. Fun job!
@danhammond9066
@danhammond9066 5 лет назад
It also has the highest fatality rate of any flying job. And chemical exposure often so harmful it will impact your life expectancy. Roundup for example already found to cause cancer. And you are breathing this stuff every day of your career. But good luck. You will need it.
@johnrad14
@johnrad14 5 лет назад
@@danhammond9066 Sorry man your actually far off, times have changed with new aircraft. Aerial Application has the second lowest fatality rate in aviation next to airlines. That's the most recent numbers. There's a reason insurance on a 1,000,000 dollar airtractor is only .8% value a year. Also chemicals have come a long ways since the old days, they are not even remotely as harmful as they used to be, far less toxic as welding fumes in nearly all cases! I have a wife and 3 kids, I wouldn't be doing it if it was as dangerous as people think it still is!
@gienneq9285
@gienneq9285 5 лет назад
70K as a CFI. Where is this mythical land?
@johnmangiameli
@johnmangiameli 5 лет назад
Gienne Q Seattle
@FWDSlip
@FWDSlip 5 лет назад
@@johnmangiameli Source?
@droneguts5122
@droneguts5122 5 лет назад
@@FWDSlip I don't know if CFI's are really getting 70K a year but I was a student at Galvin Flight School in Seattle and it's expensive. Seattle is expensive, and even if you're making 70k you're paying out the ass to live in Seattle area.
@marcusjohnson6412
@marcusjohnson6412 4 года назад
If you’re saying 70k is the average for a cfi I don’t want what you’re smoking.
@skorpius752
@skorpius752 4 года назад
GA is dying. If you plan to make a career being a CFI, I suggest getting used to dog food!
@reedadamp
@reedadamp 5 лет назад
The pay rate makes the shortage a lot more understandable.
@-Oclock
@-Oclock 3 года назад
if you have 500 hours you can move to russia and abandon america and your lifetime of student debt. the entire pilot scheme is just a scam to put people in massive amounts of debt, with a job that they have already spent years to get, so instead of leaving and getting more debt and wasting their lives, they just stay as wage slaves, debt slaves. yay america
@uzumakilol1288
@uzumakilol1288 3 года назад
And the $200,000+ to be a commercial pilot breaks dreams for most people
@stephenhayes3788
@stephenhayes3788 3 года назад
There is no shortage at the good jobs.
@heathjarvis2362
@heathjarvis2362 Год назад
The starting pay rate for many airlines is actually worse than some of the rates described in this video.
@coolhari2000
@coolhari2000 4 года назад
Starting pay $15/hr, same as Amazon warehouse work that may not even require a high school education. No wonder people don't wanna become pilots.
@daffidavit
@daffidavit 4 года назад
I got $6.00 per hour back in 1972 as a CFIA. But a C-150 including fuel only cost $16/hour. Inflation has definitely taken its toll. But it seems that $6 bucks per hour in 1972 is way better than $15/hour today. It seems way better. As a college student who worked as a CFIA back in 1972 only on weekends, I was one of the richest kids on campus. I would have $60-70 bucks in my wallet during the week. That's like having at least $300 or more in your wallet today. Can you imaging being a junior on a campus today have $300 bucks in your wallet at all times? Hey girls, wanna go out on a date?
@Hedgeflexlfz
@Hedgeflexlfz 3 года назад
facts
@k3iler05
@k3iler05 3 года назад
@@daffidavit WOW that's crazy. It was better back in 1972 because those 6 dollars back then, today equal to $37.75 an hour.. That's crazy money for a young person haha. Today we're living on less than people back then even if the # is higher.. That's how the scam works.. In your mind you're making "more" but it buys you less. Our quality of life is worse than it was. Inflation is a hidden tax/robbery.. and that $16 an hour to operate equates to $100.68 today. Source used for this calculation was "usinflationcalculator dot c o m
@david-bs2xo
@david-bs2xo 3 года назад
@@daffidavit thanks for sharing, shit is way harder these days, just look at how expensive university has become
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu 3 года назад
You don't become a pilot for the pay... you're a pilot for the view and because you simply love flying.
@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
I first read this as "5 pilot jobs for $500 / hour. I was like...yeah... 1)smuggling 2)smuggling 3)smuggling 4)smuggling 5)smuggling.
@whitecannon2185
@whitecannon2185 3 года назад
Dont forget smuggling
@scobun
@scobun 5 лет назад
Your videos are all so awesome. They're inspiring me to take my flying even further. THANK YOU.
@Nahiyanize
@Nahiyanize 5 лет назад
Now the real question is... what are 5 pilot jobs with 250 hours?
@johnpro2847
@johnpro2847 5 лет назад
I have 160 hours accident free and proud ...any vacancies here please ?
@calebniederhofer678
@calebniederhofer678 5 лет назад
Nahiyan Haq 250 You may get lucky with a pipeline patrol job , or skydiving if insurance will even let you. 250 cfi is really it , you would be surprised 300-400 even will open the pipeline , skydive. Companies are hesitant with a brand new wet Commericial pilot at 250.
@Nahiyanize
@Nahiyanize 5 лет назад
Caleb Niederhofer hey man any job that gets me flight time and let’s me some what live on, I am willing to do.
@abrahamvidulich3665
@abrahamvidulich3665 5 лет назад
Part 141 you can get a commercial certificate at 190 hours I got mine at 200
@calebniederhofer678
@calebniederhofer678 5 лет назад
Abraham Vidulich Yep , but I can’t imagine jobs other then CFI below 200hrs out there.
@fermiticus4034
@fermiticus4034 5 лет назад
Good timing!!! I just hit the 500 hour mark, this afternoon. It's been a loooong 20 years (sad face).
@rayz4896
@rayz4896 5 лет назад
Fermiticus Congrats!! Bright future ahead of ya :)
@jeremymendoza4394
@jeremymendoza4394 5 лет назад
It's been 15 years and i'm stuck at 465 hours so I feel ya......
@endsdio4834
@endsdio4834 5 лет назад
Husker Pilot no hires?
@fermiticus4034
@fermiticus4034 5 лет назад
Husker....I was stuck there too. Kind of a "dumb luck" thing though. A guy that had done his multi, at the same time I did (10yrs ago), had been flying missions for Wing of Mercy. He called me out of the blue, last Fall and asked if I could co-pilot for him (WoM requires 2 pilots). ABSOLUTELY!!!! I gained 30+ multi hrs in 2 months...and I didn't have to pay for it! You should look into that (WoM) or "Angel Flight". A lot of those guys already have their SIC that they fly with regularly...but you never know. The guy I flew with, his regular SIC went off to the airlines...I filled the spot! I've only flown with one other guy, when his regular SIC was not available.
@fermiticus4034
@fermiticus4034 5 лет назад
Also should have mentioned...putting yourself out there for "safety pilot" for instrument students and/or those that want to conduct flights for instrument currency/proficiency in VFR conditions.. You don't have to be instrument rated. You're just there for "eyes out the window" while the pilot is under the hood/foggles. Both of you can log PIC time...for the safety pilot, your logged time is only while the pilot is "blind" though(as I understand it).
@AviatorInspirations
@AviatorInspirations 5 лет назад
Great suggestions! There is a big variety of jobs out there, what’s important is going out to get them even if you have to move. You still have to hustle, make those phone calls, and get your foot in the door.
@AkPacerPilot
@AkPacerPilot 5 лет назад
Thank you! Very informative!
@runningbaum9430
@runningbaum9430 9 месяцев назад
Good video. Very informative. Excellent video, thanks for posting.
@mrthomaslaux1
@mrthomaslaux1 5 лет назад
Very informative, thx!
@greatflyer_aviation
@greatflyer_aviation 5 лет назад
Crazy how in Europe you can directly enter an airline with 200 hours having finished flight school, when comparing to the system in the US.
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 5 лет назад
This is because there is very little general aviation outside of the America so they must hire "off of the street", funny enough they send the new recruits to the USA for training. Non-USA airlines basically have indentured servant programs, aka "ab initio" training, those contracts lock you in as an employee for several years in payment for the training; that contract has fine print and you best read it before signing. They also have a much worse safety records, some aren't even allowed to fly to US airports, they rely heavily on autopilot and those pilots lack the breadth of experience needed for emergency manual stick and rudder flying. US pilots are still heavily recruited by the top foreign airlines, Cathay, JAL, Emirates all offering sweet salary bait to [experienced] US pilots either direct or through wet lease contracts. (Again read the fine print, the pay is good but the structure is far different than in the USA. ie monthly salary and required minimum work hours(little pay for overtime), verses the US system of per pay flight hour [more work more pay]. )
@Realbusdriver13
@Realbusdriver13 5 лет назад
That’s why aviation in Europe is a joke!
@WhallonJesse
@WhallonJesse 2 года назад
This is because the US has a plethora of military trained pilots leaving the service every year. leapfrogging their way right into the airlines. This leave civilian trained pilots little option. Just another good reason to avoid being a commercial pilot in the US, imo.
@Professorpoptrt
@Professorpoptrt 2 года назад
There’s a reason it’s been like 70+ years since an American airline company has had a plane crash
@markmunoz3951
@markmunoz3951 2 года назад
@@Professorpoptrt that’s false
@galja6889
@galja6889 4 года назад
Great video!Lots of super useful info in little time. Not a pilot but subscribed
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Happy to have ya along for the ride!
@leandrocarvalho8981
@leandrocarvalho8981 5 лет назад
Nice information...Going on with your channel brother! Hugs
@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333
@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333 5 лет назад
Great video.☺️
@saimonblack3394
@saimonblack3394 4 года назад
Thanks for that video. Good job.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
I appreciate it!
@r.mercado9737
@r.mercado9737 2 года назад
Great commentary and presentation! Semper Fi
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 2 года назад
Much appreciated
@OrionWebster
@OrionWebster 8 месяцев назад
BRO... You filmed my flight school (SFS). That's awesome!
@joellaplant5837
@joellaplant5837 4 года назад
Nice vid! And where is that skydiving facility you showed in the vid? That facility is beautiful
@garyainslie9115
@garyainslie9115 5 лет назад
people need to make these videos for us aussies. great video thanks
@RushinTruckin
@RushinTruckin 4 года назад
I briefly looked into becoming a pilot (I LOVE flying). I understand having to pay your dues but to shell out $70k-$100k for flight school to then get paid $20k-$40k/year for, what, 5/7 years until you can build up enough flight time to be considered by a major??? Not to mention the lifestyle of being away from home for so long for that low of pay. I'm an over-the-truck driver with only 16 months experience and I make $50k-$55k (I have a bachelors degree in business but that has zero relevance). Also, the whole seniority thing...you stay at a particular airline and work your way up then either you lose your job or you chose to switch airlines and, boom, there goes your seniority! Better get used to eating pb&j again. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or have a twisted view of this career. I dunno...just doesn't seem worth the investment to me.
@johnmontello9464
@johnmontello9464 4 года назад
Rushin' Truckin' You make some great points. I’m a private pilot right now and I’m training at part 61 school working toward my commercial. Now the 20k-40k mark for a regional first officer might be true just a few years ago (I know of a former regional pilot who flew CRJs in the in the mid 2000s and he was making about that) but recently the pay has increased significantly. In 2020 most regional first officers can expect to earn around 50-60k their first year (depends a lot on the particular airline). There’s no hiding that flight school is expensive and you CAN spend 70-100k on schools like ATP, but they are really raping their students. You can save a ton of money going to a local flight school. In fact, Ive heard of guys getting their commercial done spending less than 30k (which is still a lot of money but sure beats ATP). You’re right on seniority. With airlines it’s everything. It runs your life from your schedule, to your base, to your pay. The most senior pilots obviously get the best schedules, bases, pay...The reason I responded is because I am very interested in OTR trucking. I was actually so close to enrolling in CDL training for the same reasons you already stated, but instead chose aviation as a career path. But I’m still interested in trucking and think I might just get a CDL just in case I ever lose my airline job since the aviation industry is very cyclical. I’m curious about your lifestyle and if you wouldn’t mind answering a few questions it would be much appreciated. How much time do you spend away from home in a given month? What is sleeping in a truck like? Does your company give you a per diem to cover food and other expenses while your on the job? How many hours a day do you typically spend driving? Do you have to physically unload the contents of the trailers or do you just drop them and pick them up? In general how do you like your job? Thanks
@JosePerez-rt1kb
@JosePerez-rt1kb 4 года назад
Rushin' Truckin' , Kudos for the Video clip! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your initial thoughts. Have you heard about - Rozardner Flying Bird Reality (do a search on google)? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for how to get pilot license minus the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my friend after a lifetime of fighting got cool results with it.
@theoeguia3302
@theoeguia3302 2 года назад
@@johnmontello9464 Trucker here from New Jersey. I know I'm responding 2 years late. I can answer your questions. You can make tons of money here. Times change. Rates are higher and work is more. Reply back if your interested in working as a truck driver and still wanted to become a pilot. Its doable with the money you can make as a truck driver.
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu Год назад
Get a private pilot license while doing 4 years in the military to get the post 9/11 G.I. bill and then go to a 4 year college that is also a flight school. The post 9/11 will pay for all of your classes and flight training beyond private pilot. Even more so if the school participates in the "yellow ribbon" program.
@dylanpeterson6449
@dylanpeterson6449 19 дней назад
You can do it in 14 months if you get enough hours (i.e. pipeline or cfi at a busy school). But sadly the regulations have gotten to the point that the only way to get to a livable wage with aviation is the CFI ponzi scheme as most other paths (sitting right seat in a jet) doesnt count as time.
@chrisgiacalone5979
@chrisgiacalone5979 5 лет назад
No way you'll make more then $30k a year for 90% of CFI jobs. $70K a year?? lol
@brandonzender5839
@brandonzender5839 4 года назад
I'm lucky, I make about $36k as a CFII
@marcusjohnson6412
@marcusjohnson6412 4 года назад
Absolutely, you’ve got to be out of your mind to think you’ll make half of 70k
@mre706
@mre706 4 года назад
@@marcusjohnson6412 Not necessarily. In my area one company is starting CFIs at $45K/yr.
@NicThePilot
@NicThePilot Год назад
Just randomly came across this video and I’ve flown one of the cirruses in it. Sick! Good ole 855ef
@yogibizzel8808
@yogibizzel8808 4 года назад
Great Vid !!could you do a video about the CPL license I cannot find any videos explaining or giving advise about CPL by itself without ATP ( ATPL ) also only found 1 question bank that’s only CPL so if you had any advise would be amazing!! thanks !!
@gerritdykgraaf2570
@gerritdykgraaf2570 5 лет назад
Thank you Jon!! Letting people know about potential flying jobs just put you the top with me sir!! I am now stuck on your Vlog site for sure!! You are now, not just pointing out and showing us flying perspectives of yours!! Heck no,,, you are willing to give us possible job info!! Jon my man,, thank you from a bunch of us out here!! 👍👍
@ltinfpr2j247
@ltinfpr2j247 5 лет назад
Outstanding
@mikeybpotts3915
@mikeybpotts3915 5 лет назад
What do you think the possibility would be of combining these? So for example work as a CFI Monday - Saturday, and then on Sunday and less busy work days towing banners? Possible? Beneficial?
@mig29fulcrumflyer
@mig29fulcrumflyer 3 года назад
You forgot at least one flying job for 500-hour pilots - military pilot. With 500 hours of total flight time I had logged my first 300 hours in the F-15 Eagle. The pay is OK, the hours are long, the benefits good; plus, you get to go to exotic places, meet new people and break their stuff.
@aviatorcrafty102
@aviatorcrafty102 5 лет назад
What about the CFI-S rating? To get the rating you need 150 hours total and some odd amount of time as PIC of an LSA, but you can do with with just a sport, recreational, or private pilot license. No need for an instrument rating or even a commercial license EDIT: the major drawback is that you can only teach sport pilot applicants or give checkouts/flight reviews to sport pilots, a regular CFI but for sport pilots
@stephen_crumley
@stephen_crumley 5 лет назад
I never imagined I made more as a shop foreman of a metal fabrication shop than a pilot with the skill set which you described here. I was always thinking that pilots made 2 -3 times what I made per hour, not 50% less... I’m appalled at how low the wages are for pilots of this level. Pilots seem to be treated quite unfairly given their ability to keep human beings alive in the sky
@EatPezzzz
@EatPezzzz 5 лет назад
These are entry level pilot jobs with below ATP ratings, and they pay what the market will bear. The cost of operating a business like this, beyond the pilots' salary, is 2-3x a metal fabrication shop, just to keep the planes in the air and to be compliant with FAA standards.
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu 5 лет назад
Ahah yup you're exactly right... it's shitty. Pilots are pilots for the job and not the pay. Everybody who hires pilots knows this and can pay them peanuts.
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
@@EatPezzzz SO? if you're already hemorrhaging money, may as well pay the people running your equipment with your customers onboard more. That or consider how useful those planes will be sitting on the ground doing nothing.
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
@@TheFlyingZulu And almost every pilot I've ever met has gotten so used to everyone around them knowing what they know they can't conceive of the fact that they have a skill worth being paid for. Machinists and Fabricators never have that confusion. They know what their skills are worth. And their employers know they need those skills to exist.
@michaelnorth2055
@michaelnorth2055 5 лет назад
Let's see you start a business and pay your pilots double what your competitors are paying, i wonder how fast your business would go belly up.
@TurboJenkins
@TurboJenkins 5 лет назад
I’m broke from ATP, looks like I’ll be staying broke
@chicago2colombia
@chicago2colombia 5 лет назад
Reed Koch 41 Sorry to hear that.
@1compaqedr8
@1compaqedr8 5 лет назад
Reed Koch 41 you finished ATP flight school and broke? Can't get on at a regional?
@duanepalmore38
@duanepalmore38 5 лет назад
I hope you didn’t opt out on the CFI courses
@wcc963
@wcc963 5 лет назад
@@1compaqedr8 you finish ATP with about 250 hrs total. Regionals require 1500hrs
@Kandranos
@Kandranos 5 лет назад
@@wcc963 ATP guarantees you a CFI job up to 1500 hours.
@JohnWiltberger
@JohnWiltberger 5 лет назад
Hey could be wrong, but the banner tow link didn’t work for me. Also, great video, thanks for the rundown. It’s nice to see things you can do part time with what you love. I for one am a pilot, but also have a job I love that’s not got anything to do with aviation, so it’s nice to learn more about things to do in aviation that doesn’t require a full job change. Maybe you could deep dive on some more of those things for videos! Thanks again!
@brianflegel4013
@brianflegel4013 5 лет назад
Same banner link didn't work
@MrAlwaysBlue
@MrAlwaysBlue 5 лет назад
I am looking at microlight instructing as a semi-retirement job. You can take an instructor course with 100 hours P1.
@PiMpLiChEeSs
@PiMpLiChEeSs 5 лет назад
RVR, Ceiba puerto rico on the thumbnail. I fly out of there for Vieques Air link.
@Gluogie
@Gluogie 4 года назад
Piper warrior. Amen.
@GalenCop9
@GalenCop9 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video!! The banner towing link isn't working tho...FYI
@andrewwilkey6195
@andrewwilkey6195 5 лет назад
part 91 captain in anything from a baron to a king air part 91/135 co pilot in anything from a king air to a gulf stream you can expect 30 to 70k depending on the airplane and the fact that no two flight departments are the same and if you're lucky like me.... you wont have to shave ;) but seriously go out to that local corp flight department and ask the chief pilot if you can fly right seat. you might only make $150 bucks a day (plus expenses) but youll learn a shit ton
@Aviyaytor
@Aviyaytor 5 лет назад
Good advice, John! You forgot flying rubber donkey sh&t out of Hong Kong! Lt. Pete Mitchell almost had to do it. 😂
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Nahh, they put that on a container ship now. After the Hong Kong Rubber Dog turd market bubble of '86.
@picksellpaint
@picksellpaint 5 лет назад
Interested in pursing a pilots license here in Florida. It's becoming clearer each day that it's a dream I must follow.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Go for it!
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Congratulations, you're in one of the 10 or so places in the country where the General Aviation industry has any hope of staying afloat. Get up there and start dodging clouds!
@picksellpaint
@picksellpaint 5 лет назад
@@mzaite Thanks! Can't wait!
@jordanperschke1468
@jordanperschke1468 5 лет назад
Go for it, I'm doing my flight training in Pompano and it's such an awesome area to fly in, both geographically speaking and airspace exposure wise.
@marryson123
@marryson123 5 лет назад
1:55 unusual attitude recovery?
@nathankurkowski1565
@nathankurkowski1565 5 лет назад
The link for the banner towing job doesn’t work can you provide a different link?
@timmckenney6981
@timmckenney6981 5 лет назад
Some of his information is in accurate. You cannot fly in the right seat of a Hawker without a multi engine rating and you can log it as SIC. Flying 135 you have to be trained and certified they don’t just put anybody in the cockpit
@jullianlucas7035
@jullianlucas7035 5 лет назад
That’s my home airport Harvey Airfield in WA
@wyattjohnson8199
@wyattjohnson8199 5 лет назад
Plan on starting flight school in a month. But I have a tattoo from my elbow to about an inch above my wrist bone. Obviously I would wear long sleeves while on the job but will this stop me from being hired by air lines? Any advice is appreciated thanks
@nixonvlark6390
@nixonvlark6390 5 лет назад
1) ballast. 2) glorified ramper 3) ‘Co-pilot’ on a 208 4) flight instructor 5) Amariflight
@abbieamavi
@abbieamavi 5 лет назад
*thanks for this video, really helpful!! Trying to figure out if I should shoot for CFI as is typical, or go CPL and try to get onto a Part 135 through networking perhaps, I've started that a little*
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Both are solid options, best of luck to you either way!!
@dolamyte
@dolamyte 4 года назад
These pay ranges seem way off. CFI here in NC is $28-43K/year as 1099, and banner towing is super sketchy flying. A buddy did banners to build his time, was paid $15/h to fly a 172 and he hated it, basically flying at stall speed the whole time and getting dragged around with that huge tail sail....
@daffidavit
@daffidavit 4 года назад
I became a CFIA at age 21 back in 1973. I soled at 16 and got my PPL at 17. My mom had to drive me to the airport in order to solo because I was too young to drive. But indeed things were different back in those days. For one, the FAA "inspector" as we called them failed me two times on my CFI flight tests. Don't get me wrong, I probably deserved it. But I heard it through the "grapevine" that the FAA inspector told somebody who finally passed me that he said "these young kids don't deserve to become flight instructors at such a young age". Today it's a little different. The age "stigmata" might be less apparent, but the failure rates for first time CFIs don't seem to be much different. It's as if it's a "right of passage" that CFIs must learn the humility of failure at least once before they can obtain the most coveted of all certificates. Don't be depressed if you fail your CFI flight test the first time. Treat it as "hell week" while trying to get into a college fraternity. I was able to get my CFI before the instrument rating because back in the early 1970s that's the way the regs were written. Today I agree a CFIA applicant should have an instrument rating even if he/she is teaching primary students. The CFI certificate is a badge of honor. The problem is some people see it only as a way to build hours and they don't seem to care about teaching new students how to fly. I've seen it myself during years gone by. If you wish to become a CFI and are getting paid for it, you owe it to your students (today they are called clients) to teach them as best you can and with all of your heart. Afterall, many people's lives depend on how well you teach your students. This advice is coming from an ageing "Boomer" who still continues to love flight instructing.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 5 лет назад
Good advice! I'm too old now, but it's fun to see where things are these days. I laughed about your concern about not having to shave. You probably work harder trimming and shaping that nice beard than if you were clean shaven.
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
It's more a Psychological thing. Like getting to wear comfortable clothes and never having to touch a Tie.
@GuyShalev
@GuyShalev 5 лет назад
Which flight school pays 70$k a year? At the flight school I work with in Maryland I get around 26$k and no benefits...
@Noname-iy7gj
@Noname-iy7gj 5 лет назад
Where I work it's a three tiered structure. New instructors with little or no time start around $50-60k year, I think the next level is around 500 hours dual, and that is about $70-80k. The top tier I think you need 1000 hours dual and that is about $90k. I make $94K per year. Plus there are affordable benefits and 401k matching up to 5%.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Link is in the description!
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
I worked at a State University and made a grand $12/hr billed that they still had the gall to take State retirement funds out of.
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
@@Noname-iy7gj And that place would be?
@JeffArnoldPhotography
@JeffArnoldPhotography 5 лет назад
@@Noname-iy7gj LOL
@nicholasbolton4554
@nicholasbolton4554 4 года назад
I recently flew with a friend's father who has a ppl and his on plane and hangar. After that flight I really liked it and I've been thinking for the past week about learning how to fly because I would love to. But the major thing with me is that I want to find something that I love to do, but also be able earn a living from it. I want to pursue flying, but I have a very vague idea of what I could do to earn money from it if I invested my time to gain the experience. I just don't want to have it as just a hobby and have to pour money into it constantly. Maybe an airline pilot, but I have no clue, and at first thought I don't know if I would enjoy flying a huge commercial plane like that. Seems like a whole new ball-park of responsibility compared to finding a stable career where I could fly something small/medium without so many passengers.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
There are plenty of great routes to take, so best of luck to you no matter which way you decide!
@shawnsmith1865
@shawnsmith1865 4 года назад
That is a kick ass intro
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Thought so too... I appreciate it!
@yogevbarshavit6
@yogevbarshavit6 5 лет назад
Thanks man!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Sure thing!
@tstanley01
@tstanley01 4 года назад
The part about charter guys not being able to log SIC in single pilot planes isn't true. Read AC 135-43, As of late 2018, if it is a 135 op and the ops manual dictates a second pilot, the pilot can legally log it.
@RockfordMedia
@RockfordMedia 5 лет назад
Island hopper in Hawaii
@antonyall
@antonyall 3 года назад
Question to anyone who may explain to me. There was a pilot shortage anticipated for the next ten years or so and this seems to have ended with the entrance of Corona Virus. Recovery in the aerospace industry cant be anticipated at this time as a result of not knowing the direction the virus will take or trend. What is the status of career flying at this point and any insider information. Thanks much and take care all!
@Squidbillies1000
@Squidbillies1000 5 лет назад
What about Sasquatch Patrol
@realitybites2035
@realitybites2035 5 лет назад
hello anyone ever applied for a pria or prd (new name) before applying for a 121 job ? just curious if checkride failures just start from 2010 and ex employer data goes back 5 ? i read that, just want to confirm
@SDCDIABLO
@SDCDIABLO 5 лет назад
In Canada you can log copilot time in single crew planes such as caravans, pilatus, twins, king airs, etc., move north murican friends.
@mottoisnotyolo
@mottoisnotyolo 5 лет назад
Spencer Kaufman do you know anything about how the hours transfer to FAA regs? Cause that is an interesting route I never thought of, anyone else have suggestions for a pilot just starting and going to school for a four year degree? (Not an aviation degree)
@louisebeauchemin4681
@louisebeauchemin4681 4 года назад
There's Pilatus aircraft enough in Canada to find an opportunity with business if you really want to fly that. Thank you
@tstanley01
@tstanley01 4 года назад
@@mottoisnotyolo The rules have changed. You can log SIC in 135 ops in single pilot planes, as long as a co-pilot is written into their operations manual.
@mottoisnotyolo
@mottoisnotyolo 4 года назад
Justin Stanley Thank you for the response! I’m just trying to get as much information as possible while I’m in flight school about the field of aviation
@tstanley01
@tstanley01 4 года назад
@@mottoisnotyolo Here is something more official. www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_135-43.pdf
@adambrackston3471
@adambrackston3471 4 года назад
You have to put in the time, build hours and experience. Enjoy the learning/teaching and experience. Too many people expecting to get their ratings and making 6 figures year one. If building hours is work/a chore, you shouldn’t be flying.
@TriadAgone
@TriadAgone 4 года назад
In canada you can get hired with a regional at 500h P1
@Jopanaguiton
@Jopanaguiton 5 лет назад
I got hired as a survey pilot at 350TT. Starts at 32K to 35K a year plus benefits. Average flight time 80 hours/month.
@CathelineLeoni
@CathelineLeoni 5 лет назад
Captain Jose Omar hey captain! What was the name of the company you got hired by? I would like to become a survey pilot too!
@Hedgeflexlfz
@Hedgeflexlfz 2 года назад
name of company
@cat19649
@cat19649 4 дня назад
had no idea the pay was so low... amazing the skill required for this and then the pay is low!
@SPANKA.
@SPANKA. Год назад
Can you please tell me what I can do with my private airmen certificate!!! I know I can tow gliders to get paid, anything else⁉️👂🏾👂🏾
@colinpapenhagen1799
@colinpapenhagen1799 4 года назад
Who’s watching during quarantine?😢😢🤦🏼‍♂️
@therealg9391
@therealg9391 4 года назад
😷
@JamR0ck
@JamR0ck 5 лет назад
Are you basing the CFI pay on Lufthansa or its the average among flight schools?
@Treadstone7
@Treadstone7 4 года назад
nah. Not enough for LH 😄
@wagnergitirana
@wagnergitirana 5 лет назад
Can I call the “ Joe Satriani “ of the flight instructors? Great videos and awesome presentation!
@Mike4444x
@Mike4444x Год назад
For a second I thought he was the famous prankster Cassidy Campbell doing a bit.
@michaellochner9145
@michaellochner9145 5 лет назад
70,000 a year as a salary CFI?! HAHA holy cow that is so untrue I don’t know whether to laugh or be angry... no... that isn’t the average, hell thats hardly the best!! Paid by flight hours or not even if you flew 1100 flight hours in a year which I did between 2013-2014, I STILL worked a second job and got paid a grand total of... are you ready?? 34,000$ after taxes. now I’m not saying this isn’t worth it, I’m currently an airline captain and love it and can say the struggle to a livable wage and lifestyle of flying is worth it (be it 121,91,135, I’ve got friends everywhere and you’ll have friends who go everywhere too, it’s a beautiful thing)...but to sit here and lead people on that they are going to make TWICE what I did my first year as an emb175 FO in mid 2014 is not only untrue, it’s just unfair to the ignorant riding the aviation high! Shame!
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
VeteranPilot I don’t think even my Assistant Chief pilots made $70k at my University. And they needed to have a Masters!
@realitybites2035
@realitybites2035 5 лет назад
@@mzaite i saw a web site at a state aviation school and they listed professor salary at 67k a year
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
@@realitybites2035 Yes, and guess what they DON'T consider an Assistant Chief or Chief Pilot. Where I was everyone at the airport was considered "Support Staff" not Professors. We were in the same category as lab services, janitorial, and the parking lot gestapo.
@MrAndres6935
@MrAndres6935 5 лет назад
The jet jobs are true about the SIC time some jobs still want high multi time and CFI jobs don’t pay over 30k a year and I know this because I work in this business only some school pay very high please educate yourself before you sign anything
@avia3089
@avia3089 5 лет назад
Ho really? Man I'm getting disappointed
@kellenmcelrath678
@kellenmcelrath678 5 лет назад
the 1500 hr rule fucked everything up
@travisminneapolis
@travisminneapolis 4 года назад
Lets say you buy a Kitfox for cheap and log a bunch of hours (for cheap), would those count?
@skorpius752
@skorpius752 4 года назад
Yes. PIC time is the same whether it is in a Cessna or a Kitfox.
@-AV8R-
@-AV8R- 5 лет назад
Aperture Aviation, approximately 50k per year, 8 on 6 off, full benefits part 91 Aerial Imagery. Home base travel, hotel, rental car and per diem.
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Get there quick, Drones will be taking over that job real soon. Why ship pilots in and out to the plane when they can just fly from an office block with a Satellite uplink? When the drone needs to move you pack it up and ship it ground freight to the next place you need it to mow rows in the sky.
@cathymacarthur4129
@cathymacarthur4129 2 года назад
Living in Florida, all these low time jobs are saturated. Now with 100LL at 10.00 a gallon, it is difficult to build time. sitting at 725 hours, CFI and trying to finish cfii, but fuel cost has made consistency impossible. So frustrating, every school wants CFI, MEI...and unless you are sponsored by a millionaire....it is becoming unreachable....hence the pilot shortage will only get worse if these fuel prices do not come down. Having a family....well just can not up and move....slowly...one flight at a time (only have 4 years before aging out of airlines....my goal)
@JDJD-mw9rr
@JDJD-mw9rr 4 года назад
I make more as an A&P. Now ill probably never make as much as a senior captian but i have 0 debt and make $31hr after 4 yrs. Some make $50 hr with over 15 years
@JDJD-mw9rr
@JDJD-mw9rr 4 года назад
@yolanda jerginson ya i get it, but no one does their job just because we like it. We do it to make a living
@JDJD-mw9rr
@JDJD-mw9rr 4 года назад
@yolanda jerginson ok go work for free then. See how far that gets you. And fuck off for good measure, don't tell me what i get and don't get. You don't know me.
@pushing2throttles
@pushing2throttles 4 года назад
You said CFI's make how much? 50k-70k annually? Uh, where do they do that at? I feel like you've inaccurately framed the compensation trends. 15-20 k annually.
@beaterstang0898
@beaterstang0898 5 лет назад
Where are all these CFI gigs with this outstanding pay & benefits???? I certainly haven't come across any, not saying their not there but I think their definitely the exception to the rule.
@jakeyoung2581
@jakeyoung2581 4 года назад
what is w2 and all those other code things you mentioned????
@886888aa
@886888aa 4 года назад
When you add up the amount it cost to become a pilot it's best to look for another career.
@aaronzeiger216
@aaronzeiger216 5 лет назад
Crop dusting is another one. That's where I built up flight time.
@lillybeaninc673
@lillybeaninc673 4 года назад
How do you go about doing I like that idea
@realLetterz
@realLetterz Год назад
lol said lower 48. I never hear that except for people from Alaska ^^
@Midwest4x4f150
@Midwest4x4f150 5 лет назад
I heard a few years ago the beach banner pilots in Northwest Florida where I lived were only making about $10-12 an hour, it was hot and miserable in those planes with long days and the planes were junk, I’m surprised none of em dropped out of the sky
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Midwest4x4f150 The drag from the banner keeps em up!
@Midwest4x4f150
@Midwest4x4f150 5 лет назад
I heard crop dusting was just as bad
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Midwest4x4f150 I’ve heard mixed things about Areal Application, but the risk is HIGH.
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu Год назад
Oh god that's where I live... hopefully the pay is better now because i'm getting my commercial soon and was looking into local flying jobs.
@rex669
@rex669 5 лет назад
Flight Instructor is probably your best bet. For benefits money and flight hours.
@AMentorway4u
@AMentorway4u 3 года назад
What about crop dusting pay and jobs?
@MichaelBnothere
@MichaelBnothere 5 лет назад
Best part I don't have to shave 😎
@CalicoBlack
@CalicoBlack 3 года назад
My instructor made just over 20k last year. Get my MEI in a week, pumped to make 3x less than what i made selling phones
@Hedgeflexlfz
@Hedgeflexlfz 2 года назад
yea it sucks man
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
Yea Lufthansa.....200 hours Dual Given minimum.....not exactly a first job there. How much is that first 200 hours gonna pay? Assuming the BFE FBO's haven't figured out yet how to get CFI's to PAY for the opportunity to instruct.
@derrick_blak_
@derrick_blak_ 4 года назад
Where I come from you can get into an Embraer 190 with 250hrs . And theres never been a crash caused by inexperienced pilots. I dont know what's up with usa and there strictness causing all that pilot shortage stuff
@maximilliangenius5572
@maximilliangenius5572 4 года назад
Conspiracy theorists state that there was (which there actually was) a female on that Colgan flight that was on her way to meet with Obama regarding her lawsuit against the U.S government for their involvement in the 9/11 attacks.
@derrick_blak_
@derrick_blak_ 4 года назад
@@maximilliangenius5572 not sure about that. But sounds interesting 😅
@alexmelia8873
@alexmelia8873 3 года назад
This video aged nicely
@abbieamavi
@abbieamavi 5 лет назад
*I think the CFI was a littleee too high on the salary quote* 😂 great video, thank you! How long do you think the pilot shortage is about to last?
@CocoEspada
@CocoEspada 4 года назад
Veni Vidi Amavi Oh didn’t think I’d see you comment here. As I work in the airlines on three fronts I can tell you the shortage will last at least a decade.
@gama1123
@gama1123 4 года назад
@@CocoEspada lol.... that comment didn't age well.
@Hedgeflexlfz
@Hedgeflexlfz 3 года назад
@@gama1123 lol
@clemnewton9995
@clemnewton9995 4 года назад
Wow safely and pilots played not never enough time for them to give some more cash
@VizionWorksEditing
@VizionWorksEditing 5 лет назад
CFI should be first choice since thats what airlines highly prefer
@Captain_Al_320
@Captain_Al_320 5 лет назад
How about getting an EASA licence and you can get an FOs job on an A320/1 with 300 hours TT.
@maximilliangenius5572
@maximilliangenius5572 4 года назад
Elaborate a little more please
@TzarbombahMusic
@TzarbombahMusic Год назад
Aged like fine wine
@p__jay
@p__jay 5 лет назад
what’s the airplane when you’re talking about the CFI @ 1:55 ??
@mzaite
@mzaite 5 лет назад
That there's a Cirrus SR22 of some flavor.
@sampadilla5315
@sampadilla5315 5 лет назад
20 hrs Sport utility pilot
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 5 лет назад
Banner towing is super safe lol
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 5 лет назад
Pic at 4:28- 4:31was of the right seat of a Citation jet not a Hawker, lol.
@brianflegel4013
@brianflegel4013 5 лет назад
Banner to link is broken, what company did you research?
@danemarchesani2555
@danemarchesani2555 5 лет назад
Brian Flegel Paramount Air Service in NJ
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