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0:00- Intro
0:25- Why I quit being an airline pilot
1:30- A day in the life of a regional airline pilot
7:20- The great parts of being an airline pilot
7:40- Airline pilot pay at regionals
8:40- My decision to do something else
11:56- following my dreams
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@yingvang3191
@yingvang3191 5 лет назад
Thanks for being real. Wonderful things happen when your humble and set aside egos and pride. Count on me being a follower.
@FLY8MA
@FLY8MA 5 лет назад
Happy to have you along for our journey!!!
@Heyemeyohsts
@Heyemeyohsts 5 лет назад
That girlfriend is not going to stick around long if he isn’t bringing home the bacon. Sad but true fact of life . Look at the statistics
@paolozampieri2691
@paolozampieri2691 5 лет назад
Well then SHE should walk out the door and fend for HERSELF. Plenty of chicks out there, mostly self-sufficient. No point to drag a dead weight around if you haven't murdered anyone.
@kirakamu9246
@kirakamu9246 5 лет назад
you are lying. wonderful things don't happen automatically. you have make them happen for you. if you don't have egos and pride, you will never make wonderful things happen for you.
@MegaFpsfan
@MegaFpsfan 5 лет назад
Yes the pay is good but also there are a lot of divorces because of the airline jobs out there and the weird hours and such. If she really loves him then she'll support him and it could even be better for them.
@billschrader7505
@billschrader7505 5 лет назад
I got my PPL at 29. Spent 32 years in a different career. Finally decided at 50 years old that I wanted to be happy and it wasn’t about the money. Quit my job, moved to Alaska, flew up there for two years, graduated to a Pilatus job in the lower 48 and now I start training at a regional next month. One thing is for sure; if you’re not happy... DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I wish you all the best!!
@Taurineg
@Taurineg 5 лет назад
Bill Schrader congrats!!! I’m just like you but around 30. See you in the skies!
@kaitlynrosa1572
@kaitlynrosa1572 5 лет назад
That’s awesome! I’m 28, and I’m only just now starting my flight training. Wish me luck! Lol
@sgpilot7650
@sgpilot7650 5 лет назад
@@TaurinegCongrats ! I'm 47 About to start back my PPL lessons :)
@baseleg
@baseleg 5 лет назад
Great!
@OFD271
@OFD271 4 года назад
I'll be following your lead on this. I'm currently a fire captain, will be retiring in about 6 years from my fire job, and I don't want to sit around @ 52 years old and retired. Aviation my first love will become my work.
@awolracing
@awolracing 2 года назад
I’ve been an airline pilot for 36 and as a 777 captain some would say it does not get any better. I love my job, but I praise this young man for his accurate video and his bravery to follow his dreams. There are many ways to earn a living flying airplanes so choose the one you like. No sense in doing something you don’t enjoy. Cheers to you young man! I wish you a safe, enjoyable and lengthy career.
@c4sare4kiddos
@c4sare4kiddos 3 месяца назад
What are the cons to you.
@Skycop24
@Skycop24 10 месяцев назад
Just wanted to thank everyone out there who worked at the regionals and fought for better wages. You guys paved the way, and now I have the opportunity to change careers because the starting salary is finally competitive and worth it!
@India-nana
@India-nana Год назад
Regionals have bumped up the pay for FOs! It used to be anywhere between 34-42$ per hour, now it’s about 78-90$ :)
@sethalexis6741
@sethalexis6741 9 месяцев назад
when he said 30$ hours i said whattt?? lol cause right now first year FO's get paid 92 minimum
@hey9433
@hey9433 8 месяцев назад
@@sethalexis6741 EXACTLY!!! This vid was uploaded 5 years ago btw, now here in central florida wages are 90-100 an hour starting pay at regionals!! 38 an hour!! Id quit too!! LOL
@alexvig2369
@alexvig2369 8 месяцев назад
Thing about being a pilot, it's a career that has ups and downs in waves
@Slowyeti85
@Slowyeti85 6 месяцев назад
I started at $18 an hour in 2006…. Times have definitely changed!
@India-nana
@India-nana 6 месяцев назад
@@Slowyeti85 18$ would be criminal on today’s day
@lillyie
@lillyie 5 лет назад
*Grabs popcorn and scrolls down the comment section*
@brucekerr9251
@brucekerr9251 5 лет назад
same
@josesbox9555
@josesbox9555 5 лет назад
Yep. All the triggered pilots.
@nofxslc
@nofxslc 4 года назад
joses box reading through some of these comments, you seem to be the one getting quite triggered. There’s a difference between getting triggered and explaining to people that this video is one guys experience, and not common. This dude attracts a lot of prospective pilots to his page and some of us who’ve had successful careers are trying to give a counter perspective from his. Sincerely, A “triggered” pilot
@jcherrax
@jcherrax 4 года назад
@@nofxslc you sound triggered 😂
@StephanieHua
@StephanieHua 5 лет назад
Airline pilots are a lifestyle that is rarely documented. While the title of being an "airline pilot" sounds exotic to some, the sacrifices made to get to that level is rarely understood. I love that you are sharing this with us.
@carlosamaral6917
@carlosamaral6917 5 лет назад
And... Nobody on his perfect judge will ever spend so much money for such low income... Plus, in order to get a good income in a job like airline pilot, you must be really experienced and that means... you've already flown thousands of hours and sepnt thousands of Euros/Dollares... Just to finnish, in Europe almost every airline requieres pilots to pay their own type rating... I'm young (24), and I would love to be a pilot, but with such a ridiculous market, not thanks!
@assassinaria
@assassinaria 8 месяцев назад
I'm a Master Electrician and make about $45/hr and I'm so surprised that airline pilots make about the same as me. I've always had an immense respect for them and presumed they were paid like $100/hr lol
@eversirias7171
@eversirias7171 4 года назад
I’m 31 and tomorrow I’m taking my first flight with an instructor. It’s my introductory flight. Wish me luck
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Good luck to you!!
@eversirias7171
@eversirias7171 4 года назад
FLY8MA.com Flight Training it was sooo awesome. Best experience of my life
@phxJohn2010
@phxJohn2010 3 года назад
@@eversirias7171 its never too late. Im 40 and Im just getting started.
@AlexGearon
@AlexGearon 3 года назад
32 and in my first year of training here!
@josiahkahkonen2307
@josiahkahkonen2307 3 года назад
I’m going to be taking my introductory lesson within the next couple weeks!
@veebhushah9667
@veebhushah9667 4 года назад
You truly are passionate about flying because you have still kept a flying job just not a airline
@BrandonBaunach
@BrandonBaunach 3 года назад
It’s also more that it’d be a complete waste of all his hours and ratings not to do a career in aviation.
@asharp1504
@asharp1504 5 лет назад
I appreciate the honesty and integrity of this video. Not all "glamor" jobs are really worth it.
@stevesullivan882
@stevesullivan882 4 года назад
Teaching is AWESOME. I’ve taught 2 generations of CDL holders, I’ve taught Bible studies, and now I’m working to become a CFII. I cannot wait to pass that forward as well! Steve Sullivan, Bonham F00
@ngkngk875
@ngkngk875 Год назад
Ever make the truck to plane switch? Haha
@AgentPimpJuice
@AgentPimpJuice 4 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. I really thought about being a pilot but now I will just stay where I'm currently at. Thanks for your integrity!
@jeremymendoza4394
@jeremymendoza4394 5 лет назад
In my opinion, you made the right decision. Being an airline pilot is not for everyone, but at least you tried it and realized it wasn't for you. So why stay? Go back to what you love and enjoy, even if it's being a CFI! Keep up the good work. I really enjoy your videos!
@FLY8MA
@FLY8MA 5 лет назад
Thanks bud! That's definitely how I felt. It was an awesome experience and maybe one day I'll go back, but for now it'll just be lots of awesome flying and videos!!!
@medic9five
@medic9five 5 лет назад
The mad dash to the E Concorse at KCLT. That would be you are so skinny. Love the ground school videos!!!! When I do eventually take lessons my home airport will be KEQY
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Hope you get up in the air soon!
@wickedcabinboy
@wickedcabinboy 5 лет назад
Husker Pilot, I couldn't agree with you more. I commend FLY8MA for making the change. It takes courage to walk away from a job like that for balance in his life. To denigrate this man for his personal choice is simply heartless and unfeeling. Good luck to you FLY8MA.
@alfonsosierra8570
@alfonsosierra8570 5 лет назад
Husker Pilot a
@osborneready
@osborneready 5 лет назад
Many of you missed it, sure the money wasn't the greatest. He quit to pursue his passion. I did that, I was a Sr. Software Engineer making well over 6 figures a year. I quit to start my business Tracked Out Adventures. I take people out on dirtbike and snowmobile adventures. And while I haven't made much money, I sure love my life a whole lot more.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
You got it DJ! I can do without the money and I'll keep my LIFE!
@billg7205
@billg7205 5 лет назад
DJ there's a guy just like you named Matt Deardan who flies Pilatus Porters in Indonesia for Suzy Air. He was a high level IT worker. Worth a look at the Worst Place To Be a Pilot video series.
@dustin9258
@dustin9258 5 лет назад
I’m trying to be in the same boat as you DJ. I’m an electrical engineer, I make a good salary but I’m not happy. I want to own my own business and work for myself, so I completely get it.
@brandoncameron5494
@brandoncameron5494 5 лет назад
DJ Osborne Good stuff man. Best of luck on your business.
@user-sv1sw9ev3w
@user-sv1sw9ev3w 5 лет назад
@Bill DeFalco get the hell out of here fucking spammer
@jasonpayne1240
@jasonpayne1240 4 года назад
My little brother is a regional pilot and he has told me a lot of what you shared. Whatever you do, best wishes 🛩
@henrymccarthy8452
@henrymccarthy8452 4 года назад
"Attitude, airspeed, Brains- You need two of those things to survive" - good saying
@taklin2154
@taklin2154 2 года назад
Airspeed and Brains
@spinebuster9490
@spinebuster9490 5 лет назад
People think pilots are rich and they get lots of cash. These guys go through hell considering sleepless nights, low salary, unstable jobs, big time accountability, pending student loans. *It is not easy and they deserve more*
@jayit6851
@jayit6851 4 года назад
Perhaps I'm missing something. I completely understand pilots arent RICH per se. But once you make a mainline carrier you are making enough to live comfortably no?
@joesmith389
@joesmith389 4 года назад
Trenton Pottruff Yes. The median pilot pay is $140,000. Average base pay is $113,000. These are US numbers. I’m guessing the guy in this vid spent a little time in the regionals (where everyone starts out at) then left for personal reasons. It sucks for everyone at first (like any other job, you’re low man in the totem pole), but stick with it and you’ll be doing nice easy long hauls in the left seat making doctors’ salary. American Airlines average pilot salary is almost $200,000, but some make even more. When I went through flight school, the average pay was horrible. Nowadays there’s a pilot shortage, and they pay very well.
@PaBlo-io3sd
@PaBlo-io3sd 4 года назад
@@joesmith389 Hi! When did you go attend flight school?
@joesmith389
@joesmith389 4 года назад
Pa Blo started in 1996
@goodenough4399
@goodenough4399 4 года назад
Trenton Pottruff Yes, IF you can get to the main lines. Meanwhile you have to put up with a lot of stuff for a long time, then IF you can make the switch to a major, the you start all over again from the bottom.....but you make more money
@fredvader4414
@fredvader4414 5 лет назад
Here’s my take on this. I’ve been with the Airlines 20 years. 3 Airlines total 7,7, and 6 years respectively. Regional, small major, now large major airline. Currently Capt on the B-737 making about $260/hour. It’s never been a better time to be a pilot. Hell Delta is upgrading pilots to Capt in less than a year! You would have upgraded to Capt in probably a year or so. Then get picked up by a major soon after if your resume has no issues. Then be flying better equipment, better schedule, and much more pay. We all had to pay our dues. Some longer than others. I flew many 7 leg days making $18 an hour. But I stuck not only thru that, but also 9/11 and the economy downturn in ‘08. Times were tough. Bills sometimes hard to pay. But in the end, love my job, am enjoying great pay, and schedule. When you look back, you’ll realize the huge mistake you made. Don’t give up so soon. If your regional sucked, then go someplace else. The majors are only a few years away. Suck it up. The rewards are too great to pass up. Good luck!
@Edalmo7980
@Edalmo7980 5 лет назад
Pilots need to have passion and be ready for a long unexpected way , but if you persist you'll see the reward soon or later, all depend of you.
@dylconnaway9976
@dylconnaway9976 5 лет назад
I agree with ya, and I hate to hear this guy trying to justify or rationalize his weakness and lack of follow through.
@defyent
@defyent 5 лет назад
Who says that airlines have to be the end all for all pilots? Personally I couldn't think of anything more boring.
@omsaha5375
@omsaha5375 5 лет назад
Im glad I saw this comment. Made me happy to know what being a pilot really should be. (coming from an Enthusiast). I wanna become a commercial airline pilot and i thought check this mans video to just get over with the feels he had and probably know more about the job.
@stevedixon8196
@stevedixon8196 5 лет назад
It seems that most of this guys problems with the airline were directly related to his commute. Here's an idea, if you're based out of Charlotte why not live in Charlotte? I get it, the job really wasn't for him. I find it very exciting to try something on your own and wish him the best of luck.
@stevefletcher7968
@stevefletcher7968 3 года назад
Your videos are inspiring love your presentations. I spent 30 years in remote air support minerals exploration. Pilots were our lifeline, helicopters and fixed wing. I salute and respect you all. My uncle flew 35 missions over the English Channel WW2 B17. Can't get enough of flying. You guys are truly my heroes, thanks for getting me home safe everyday.
@kilt81
@kilt81 4 года назад
I am a captain in a major carrier, yeah in the beginning you struggle and i think that those regionals are a nightmare, but what I can tell you is, once you get into a Major airline and especially you become a captain...it s a whole different story...everything is payed by company, you are served good food, insurance...and alot of money at the end of the month. But still this is a job that requires alot of dedication, and extremely stressful at times.
@joeesparza2134
@joeesparza2134 5 месяцев назад
You should do a video or something on how you got to become a captain and your experience thru it all!
@octavia1amazing
@octavia1amazing 5 месяцев назад
@@joeesparza2134I agree!
@chrisstromberg6527
@chrisstromberg6527 5 лет назад
20 years with three different Airlines has taught me one thing, don’t become a pilot for the money, do it because you love flying! I am glad you found your calling as a CFI, best of luck to you!
@technicalactivity
@technicalactivity 4 года назад
Chris Stromberg definitely for money for a lot
@RadicalforGod
@RadicalforGod 4 года назад
Chris Stromberg you can do something you love and still expect to make good money.
@bigiecheese919
@bigiecheese919 4 года назад
I’d love the job but it a feasible dream ?
@skyr8449
@skyr8449 3 года назад
No, even if you love something you should be expected to get a reasonable human wage and treatment. They can (on a normal year) afford it I am sure.
@internetsurfer6995
@internetsurfer6995 Год назад
Yes, flying is my dream since I was a child, and being the brain of those giant machines would be amazing and priceless, I could do it without asking a penny! I don't know how it is to be working for an airline, but in my honest opinion, when you're an airline pilot, you're not flying just because you love it that much, you're flying because it's supposed to be your job, and you're making a living out of it, also that's the only way you can do what you love. So, getting back what you've invested would be reasonable to except. Unfortunately, you have to work a lot, sacrifice time with family, pets and home, not doing other activities you love, etc... To get that back.
@LongTimeNoPuck
@LongTimeNoPuck 5 лет назад
You are such a down to earth guy. I'm happy you found what works for you in your life. Much happiness.
@GailKeys1
@GailKeys1 4 года назад
I've been with a major US airline for 30 years. I'm glad I paid my dues i.e. commuted for my first three years, sat reserve, ate airplane food! I've been a captain for over 20 years and can't think of a better career! Yes, I missed a lot of school plays, soccer games, and many other activities. My kids say it didn't matter, their broadened horizons far exceeded me being present at some of their activities. I admire you going for what you really want in life, I highly recommend doing just that. The next chapter in my life starts in less than 8 years once I retire. I'm excited to be exploring many opportunities that are available. General aviation is amongst the top! Good luck to you!!
@bingoair170
@bingoair170 4 года назад
How is your sleep these days. I left skywest so I could sleep & not kill anybody.
@GailKeys1
@GailKeys1 4 года назад
I usually sleep well on the road and at home. I try to eat healthy, exercise and stay very hydrated at all times. Hydration has played a huge role in my sleeping well or not.
@bingoair170
@bingoair170 4 года назад
@@GailKeys1 Thank you. Ive been flying commercially for 35 years & after 10 years of air ambulance work almost committed suicide, kinda...unstable approach down to mins after 5th 14 hour duty day in a row. I totally understand this Captains dilemma, he burned out & found out along the way the airlines weren't for him. I figured that out in college, but still took an airline job, didn't last 5 months. What an incredibly demanding routine. Im usually just an average smart ass, I fly corporate. Doctor said I was a prime candidate for Sleep apnea unless I quit working nights. Cycarium Rythum Disruption
@Jake-gb9nj
@Jake-gb9nj 3 года назад
Thank you for this optimistic comment as I'm studying for my cfi I came across this video and it seemed pretty discouraging, I just hope that I will be able to provide for a family one day and travel around the world and how long did it take you to move out of regional airliners?
@GailKeys1
@GailKeys1 3 года назад
@@bingoair170 Things have changed since my original post. I've trained on two different airplanes and now settling into the new jet and hope to retire from this one in five years. I'm flying internationally and wanted to add a comment regarding my sleep. I gave up all alcohol a couple of months ago. WOW!!! What a difference it's made. I sleep so much better and have more energy as well as alertness! Be well!!
@oliverwaters761
@oliverwaters761 2 года назад
Like many others, I dreamed of being an airline pilot but could not afford the flight training. I became a civil engineer and some how I always believed I missed out...until I saw your video. It's a very honest review of the life of an airline pilot. Thank you for sharing
@michaelbyrd8385
@michaelbyrd8385 5 лет назад
I had a friend who flew for the airlines and then left. His reason was much simpler - it was boring. I'm just a student pilot at this point, and I'm 60 years old, but I like feeling the airplane, feeling the wind, and seeing the ground. I look up at the sky when a small plane flies by. If it's a jet, not so much. I enjoy my flights as a passenger on commercial airplanes, and I'm glad it's safe and smooth and super autopiloted, but I usually fall asleep. I definitely do not enjoy coming and going at airports. Thanks, Jon. Great job on this and all of your videos.
@FLY8MA
@FLY8MA 5 лет назад
Glad you're pursuing it now Michael! Good luck on the training and have fun flying low and slow!!!!!!!
@bugnut82
@bugnut82 5 лет назад
Me too, I love the sight and sound of a small airplane flying overhead. If it’s a jet I’ll glance up and then carry-on with whatever I was doing. All of my friends are going to the airlines, they all want to fly the jet. I’m flying a caravan for cargo and I love flying this plane. I also love to teach, I look forward to doing more of that for sure.
@zachmahomes3517
@zachmahomes3517 5 лет назад
Michael Byrd 60 years old? Isn’t that when they retire
@ezra3280
@ezra3280 5 лет назад
@@zachmahomes3517 😂 wanted to ask the same question tho
@Michael-gs8og
@Michael-gs8og 4 года назад
@@zachmahomes3517 They are mandated to retire at 65 years of age.
@poppyflower9003
@poppyflower9003 4 года назад
Wow your transparency and enthusiasm is so refreshing 💛
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
I appreciate it, Lauren!
@HighFuel90
@HighFuel90 3 года назад
So much insight! This was a wonderful video.
@stevenflattum156
@stevenflattum156 4 года назад
I started just like you. You didn’t stay long enough. It gets way way better eventually. Now I have an amazing lifestyle and 3 awesome airplanes on an aviation community.
@TexasNorthDFW
@TexasNorthDFW 4 года назад
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Glad ya liked it!!
@Tackleberry666
@Tackleberry666 5 лет назад
I became airline pilot at the age of 38. And I absolutly love it. Before that I was in middle and senior management position at several engineering companies. The money is better now, I work less and receive less amount of stress. Also pilots are fairly intelligent people,easy to talk to and I dont have to spend hours at meaningless meetings explaining basic things to people that have no interest to be there but to get a payheck at the end of the month or some abusive, lying business owner to whom reasoning is like talking to a dead dolphin. I hear from other captains that they get young first officers in cockpit with no previous work experience at the age of 22 for example. And after 6 months they begin to complain about this lifestyle. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@Brad__Gray
@Brad__Gray 5 лет назад
Man, this sounds exactly like my path! I just got my cfi at 36. Coming from corporate finance. Cannot wait! So glad I read this.
@samuelnegussie3025
@samuelnegussie3025 5 лет назад
Good for you man! I wonder at what age you started your training? I have made up my mind to leave my current job and start a flight training. I'm 30 now and I know it's very long journey but, I hope I'm not late. I don't know how to tell my wife that for the next 10 years or sth we are going to suffer! Ahh... it's going to very devastating for her! Her plan is me to get a promotion and make few more money and have kids etc. Not leave and spend all our money on expensive training to pursue one of the most competitive job in the world. But, flying is my passion. I've heard many people in the industry saying that 'there is no better time to become a pilot' indicating the demand. I wish you guys best of luck!
@A4CAPTAIN7
@A4CAPTAIN7 5 лет назад
You are an inspiration for us...I have a ppl I am 27 and am looking forward to invest in my dream to become a pilot...I thought I am already too old
@meliudaj
@meliudaj 5 лет назад
@@samuelnegussie3025 Save yourself the hassle friend... Get the divorce now.... Be it from your wife, or from your passion, but from what you just described both aren't happening.
@vsabadazh
@vsabadazh 5 лет назад
So how old were you when you started your ATPL training?
@emiliachidester3250
@emiliachidester3250 3 года назад
Love you John, thank you for all this info, pilots have to start getting better pay and better care, it is insane what they have to go through.
@DustyLambert
@DustyLambert 4 года назад
This is why I stopped working as a ski patroller. So many things are more glamorous from the outside looking in. Glad it didn’t ruin your passion, and you were smart enough to recognize it early on.
@nofxslc
@nofxslc 5 лет назад
12 year airline pilot here. I’ve flown the CRJ, B757, and A320 for regional airlines, ACMI/charter, and now for a major airline. I can’t say I agree with this guy. I will say his description of a day in the life of a regional pilot isn’t far off, but only if you’re talking about worst case scenario (commuting from a small market like Sarasota to work every trip). Had he moved and lived in domicile his experience would have been much less stressful. Here’s the thing...you have to pay your dues; everyone does. It’s not just airline pilots, ask my friends in the finance industry, or medical professions; we all paid our dues and schlepped through the early portion of our career to reap the rewards of hard work and perseverance. Was it tough? Hell yes it was tough, but every month your seniority grows and it gets easier. My life now almost couldn’t be better; I’m well paid, I have great quality of life, and I’m very happy. I truly love what I do. Honestly, I couldn’t imagine doing anything else. So keep that in mind when you’re watching this video. Also, I agree with him that you should follow your personal dreams. Do what makes you happy. This career offers a lot of diversity from instructing, corporate, military, to the airlines. I was disappointed with this video because at the beginning I thought it was his passion for instructing that led him to quit flying in the airlines. That is a noble thing to do, quit to pursue your true passion. However, within a few minutes it turned into 20 minutes of complaining about a pretty extreme version of regional airline life. If instructing is his passion, good on him, but if he wanted the quality of life and salary that the major airlines provide and gave up because he couldn’t hack it in the regionals for a few years, he made a big mistake.
@samj.cnyambe3582
@samj.cnyambe3582 5 лет назад
DITTO!
@SirOrganic
@SirOrganic 5 лет назад
Welcome to the life of being a Millenial.
@onlyme112
@onlyme112 5 лет назад
Probably just as well this fellow isn't flying any passengers anymore.
@tmanf22
@tmanf22 5 лет назад
Living at a domicile would solve 97.78766% of this.
@justinrivas7730
@justinrivas7730 5 лет назад
Some people have dignity and will not tolerate being a slave.
@PiperFlyer-yw8sv
@PiperFlyer-yw8sv 5 лет назад
Love the honesty and thanks for sharing your passion for aviation. I currently own a Piper 235 and fly out of KVIH while being only a private pilot. I enjoy having the choice to go up on the days that I want to and not to be forced to fly on bad weather because my job requires it. My hats off to you and keep posting the awesome videos. Thanks Jason W.
@georgesayago9090
@georgesayago9090 4 года назад
Glad you make your decision and you are happy with it. I been on the airlines 33 and flying for 44 and never had experience anything like that. For more years before retirement after 23 years with SWA and for me been and airline pilot was,is and will be the best decision on my career. Good luck and have fun. One more thing “ Keep the Blue Blue Side Up “.
@chaiseaustin7589
@chaiseaustin7589 4 года назад
Im 31 and I've been a flight attendant at AA for 5 years now. I know exactly what you mean all too well. The whole point of becoming a FA was to get a glimpse into the life of a pilot. I paid for and passed my PPL checkride out of pocket at 29 years old with a 19 year old instructor, got accepted into the Cadet Academy but wasn't approved for the loan so I was booted, and now I'm maxing out every credit card I can get my hands on and taking loans from my credit union. I even cashed out what little I had in my 401k to help finance my training. I passed my IFR check ride about a month ago and now I'm building time for my commercial. Lately, I've been having second thoughts about flying for an airline simply because I know exactly how 50% of the days go. 12-14 hour duty days, multiple legs, cancellations, delays, commuting, and everything else involved. Not to mention seniority (being super junior), bidding, being on RESERVE. I'm not quite sure it's worth it. I'm almost 32 and it seems impossible to start a family. Luckily I'm from St Pete, live in Fort Lauderdale and I'm based in MIA for now so I'm not too far away from my family, but that could all change when being hired with a regional. I don't want to get to move back home and begin training at Envoy or PSA just to be told that I'm being based in Chicago or Charlotte and have to make an undrivable commute. I'm really glad I decided to watch this video because it really put it into perspective for me. Thanks for being 100% real and not afraid to call out the airlines for being this way. I'm a huge fan of FLY8MA and recommend it to all of my friends. You're have a great thing going and it helps a LOT of people.
@michaelcasareo8450
@michaelcasareo8450 3 года назад
I always wanted to be a pilot when I was in my teenage years. Now that I'm in my 40s as a Network Engineer working in IT industry making $130k plus a year. I was thinking of going to Flight School to be a pilot and maybe switch careers in the process. LOL I'm glad I run into this RU-vid video, it Kanna shed some light because lately, I've been thinking a lot how I wish I followed my dreams of becoming a pilot. If money wasn't the factor, which would you rather have...sitting in a cubicle, going to meetings daily doing presentation etc or being up in the air 30,000 feet enjoying the scenery, sunset and traveling at the same time. No job is perfect :( >>>> I would choose to be a Pilot if could do it all over again you know.
@Gmayneful
@Gmayneful 3 года назад
So are you going to continue your flight school? Or are you going back to being a FA?
@Ocean_Ave
@Ocean_Ave 2 года назад
I just read your comment. What did you decide to do?
@ADifferentVibe
@ADifferentVibe Год назад
I feel ya. Most people I know hate going to the airport - they are excited to travel to see amazing things, but getting there through customs, waiting lines, sitting in a plane, isn't that much fun. Do I really want to fly people who aren't having fun to travel? Not really. I have my PPL and saving to do my instrument/commercial someday but I have no aspirations to be a commercial airline pilot. I love flying for fun and learning skillsets of a pilot and that's cool enough for me!
@BlkInc1
@BlkInc1 Год назад
Do you have an update for us Chaise? Curious if you continued on this journey.
@PilotPhotog
@PilotPhotog 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing! I got my Private Pilot license at 26 and then life happened and decided to get my ratings to CFI - working on that now and also doing aviation photography. I'd love to setup an air to air shoot with you sometime! I'm in the Houston area and have family in Florida so it'd be cool if we could plan something.
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 5 лет назад
Honestly your description of the Airline life sounds exactly like what I've always dreamed of doing. My mind isn't changed, the Airline it is for me :)
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 5 лет назад
@Aviator Bob Who said anything about Europe?
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 5 лет назад
@Aviator Bob My name is South African
@RuiPlaneSpotter
@RuiPlaneSpotter 4 года назад
Very good video, congratulations!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
It's appreciated! Cheers!!
@RuiPlaneSpotter
@RuiPlaneSpotter 4 года назад
FLY8MA.com Flight Training you're welcome!
@CyberSnowman
@CyberSnowman 3 года назад
Raw and honest. Thanks for sharing. Well done!
@F35lightII
@F35lightII 5 лет назад
It’s really helps when you don’t have to commute...I live in the city that I’m based out of and it’s a huge advantage.
@Catpanl
@Catpanl 4 года назад
Rocky Schulz I hear that a lot. Almost a must it sounds.
@alisaid5675
@alisaid5675 4 года назад
What do u mean based out? I’m in college now looking to start my career in aviation.
@2doorduude
@2doorduude 5 лет назад
Wow... So clear and informative. Thank you!
@so03
@so03 11 месяцев назад
Thanks John, really appreciate the honesty! Great video!!
@creigiihtondenynis39
@creigiihtondenynis39 4 года назад
Thanks for this! Good luck to you!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Cheers!!
@mapp4751
@mapp4751 5 лет назад
i think this man still has the passion for aviation!
@birdwing98
@birdwing98 5 лет назад
There is no shame in making a career of flight instruction.
@asraharrison
@asraharrison 5 лет назад
@@birdwing98 Yes but he made a point of talking about the money! So reading REAL airline pilots call him out on it is quite refreshing. Either he doesn't like the lifestyle, OR he doesn't like the money.... No different from any other millennial that graduates college expecting a 90k job
@roastbeef6604
@roastbeef6604 5 лет назад
@@asraharrison there s wanting to make money and wanting to pay the bills.
@belsaraj
@belsaraj 5 лет назад
Everyone is looking at this video like being an instructor is a downgrade. Its not. Bottom line is instructor is a career and airline is a career. They are both a way to do what you love while being surrounded by those who respect and admire what you do. Whoever is commenting 'you made a mistake' or 'hang on a little longer'... that is their opinion. Do what you think is best and thats it. Good luck man. Enjoy it.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Thanks!!!
@MSneberger
@MSneberger 5 лет назад
My fixed wing CFI is a 70 year old engineer with multiple patents to his name and an active company working that technology. He in no way needs to be a CFI, but he does it because he loves something about it. For fun he spends time in the summer flying sea planes on Lake Union in Seattle - something else he doesn't NEED to do. Sometimes it is simply about the love of flying.
@oscarb9139
@oscarb9139 5 лет назад
MSneberger Yes, he is a probably a great instructor.
@oscarb9139
@oscarb9139 5 лет назад
Being a flight Instructor can be a career, but it has many downsides if you are not already financially set. Many of the comments about the regionals say they don’t pay enough. Well, instructing is usually the same. Whereas the regional airlines may start as low paying, the pay can jump to about $65,000 when you move to the other seat at many of them with the top pay around $100,000. Flight instructors don’t do that well. Many places offer no benefits, no vacation, and about $40/hour. Most full time instructors will fly less than 1000 hours per year, so if you can support a family on that then you are set. It is an honorable profession, but it hard to make it a career. If you have another good paying job, or are retired, it can be a very rewarding job.
@Captain_SQ
@Captain_SQ 3 года назад
Thanks man for being honest.
@rajinbin
@rajinbin 3 года назад
I serious love this. Thanks for being honest bro.
@RGV250FORSALE
@RGV250FORSALE 5 лет назад
I like this guy. He's a natural leader, and is fulfilling his dreams, which sadly a lot of us for one reason or another never get to do. Good for you sir - go for it!. Kudos!.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Thanks! Keep track of our progress on the new vlog channel! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xMmhvfg4XfI.html
@louisvanniekerk9660
@louisvanniekerk9660 5 лет назад
I like your approach to life, you go my man!
@juank1026
@juank1026 4 года назад
congrats on making your dreams come true, I am at 48 and barely starting to looking into getting a pilots Lic
@Catpanl
@Catpanl 4 года назад
Good honest review. Thank you!
@AviatorInspirations
@AviatorInspirations 5 лет назад
Amazing story! The regionals are a hard phase in the career to overcome, personally I have been working 18-20 days for the past 3 years. I can totally relate to your story, and I’m happy to hear you made a healthy choice! I wish you much luck in the next journey of your flying adventure.
@yingvang3191
@yingvang3191 5 лет назад
Aviator Inspirations; I really enjoy your videos. Your very honest about the path to become a pilot. The things you says makes a lot of sense with GREAT advice.
@AviatorInspirations
@AviatorInspirations 5 лет назад
Thank you, I appreciate the great support!
@davekri1662
@davekri1662 5 лет назад
wow this video explains much of my experience as a passenger. thanks for the honesty
@jcsingle21
@jcsingle21 4 года назад
KFIG love your videos man, helping me start off after being in the Air Force for 21 years being an mechanic.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Glad I can help!! Might be a hike for ya but we'll be in the Philly area in a couple months... The full schedule is posted here: fly8ma.com/trip/
@LukasNachtigall
@LukasNachtigall 4 года назад
YES! Do what you love! People who do what they want to do are happy and people around you are boring and stay bored, but they are giving advices to anybody around who's doing something out of the standards.. I love to do what I love! Thumbs up man!
@jacoswan
@jacoswan 5 лет назад
It’s his honest opinion at where he is at in his life . Nothing in this world easy but respect the honesty of what you will be in for if you make career out of aviation. .
@robertmasano4114
@robertmasano4114 5 лет назад
Great video . Great outlook on life . I’m all about that. I’m a commercial flight attendant for a big airline and I wanted to be a pilot but once I saw what they do on a day to day basis, it was not what I imagined, it was worth to just stay on the other side of the door and enjoy my benefits from my side. Best of luck to you and enjoy life.
@howienyb4331
@howienyb4331 5 лет назад
Me too
@chenanigans
@chenanigans 2 года назад
I go back and forth with it. But feel similar to you as a FA as well. And at this point I've built up seniority already. Not much but some lol. Thinking of starting that all over as a woman who wants a family is tough. My seniority now will grant be a better schedule sooner than switching it all up for the other side of the door. But I can't say I don't think about it a a lot.
@jaco3928
@jaco3928 3 года назад
Thank you for being so real!👍
@charlescarroll3307
@charlescarroll3307 Год назад
Pretty cool man. I’ve watched allot of your videos and they have helped me pass checkrides, but this is the first time seeing this video. Thanks for all your help and inspiration
@ericgirardet1848
@ericgirardet1848 5 лет назад
Very interesting video. I fly for a major European Freighter airline and we are for the first time in our airline existence, loosing f/o’s . I totally understand your decision to move away from that lifestyle. Wish you all the best.
@FLY8MA
@FLY8MA 5 лет назад
The industry is certainly changing!! Hope QOL goes up here over the next few years! I'm sure it will otherwise they'll be parking airplanes!
@jesseking6619
@jesseking6619 5 лет назад
Genuinely testified
@paulette8729
@paulette8729 5 лет назад
St Mary’s!!! Southern Maryland. 2W6 Thank you so much for talking about your experience.
@harryl9640
@harryl9640 2 года назад
Thank you very much for your Candid, clear, and real explanation of the Pilot life!!!
@Devyn6Seven
@Devyn6Seven Год назад
Thanks for making this video!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
Glad it was helpful!
@flutist218
@flutist218 5 лет назад
Thanks so much. I really have a better appreciation for pilots now.
@xThrottleGeek
@xThrottleGeek 5 лет назад
I was a Regional FO for 10 years. That equates to 2 bankruptcies, 5 involuntary base changes, a 7 year contract battle for "liveable" wages, acquisition and assimilation of two other Regional airlines, acquisition of my own airline by a major, the "Great Recession" and the lingering effects of 9/11. The net effect was a constant slow slide backwards on the seniority list the entire time. Five times I was confronted with the whole, "Only 2 more years to upgrade". My entire 30's disappeared. I think some kids were born in that time somewhere. The carrot was no longer valuable enough for me to gamble a 6th time. I simply couldn't gamble on that carrot going into my 40's and my family couldn't afford to wait for it to happen either. THANK GOD I made that decision. Medevac is amazing! :) I would simply add that coming on here to "add" that this guy is a quitter is ludicrous. EVERY SINGLE AIRLINE pilot friend of mine from those days always asks a barrage of questions about my schedule. NOT how much $$$ I make... but the schedule and quality of life. Let that sink in for a minute. Subbed. ;)
@meliudaj
@meliudaj 5 лет назад
AS an aspiring airline pilot myself, I have to thank you for your hard work and countless fights... The market today is NOT what you suffered through, but it is not lost on me that it was the men from YOUR time, that made the market of current.... Keeping fingers crossed shit holds positive.
@sally2395
@sally2395 4 года назад
@@meliudaj rip
@Robert-uo6qi
@Robert-uo6qi 2 года назад
I’m a Current Regional FO, I’m leaving the job shortly.
@rodneyesqueda6763
@rodneyesqueda6763 Год назад
ICU nurse here . That's awesome I'm currently looking into medevac to see if I want to pursue that . Get the best of both worlds
@JamesEarlRayMLK
@JamesEarlRayMLK 3 месяца назад
@@Robert-uo6qiwhy
@busyguy5367
@busyguy5367 3 года назад
Good for you brother! I always wondered why you Commercial guys do it. I'm at KCLW. Returning to flight after 3 years. You videos have helped me get back in the cockpit.
@airlinepilot2000
@airlinepilot2000 Год назад
I am 65 with 24,000 Hours - I am so happy to see you got it RIGHT. Well DONE!!!
@duckbow
@duckbow 5 лет назад
You have a great skill beyond flying -- that is, self-awareness. Big props to you for figuring out this is not what you want, and doing so at an age when you can still make these decisions and bounce right back. Stoked for the next chapter. Come to KFRG -- visit us in NYC!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Would love to swing by! Follow our progress on the new channel as we make our way over to the East coast!
@Thorsun
@Thorsun 4 года назад
Home airport = KJYO (Leesburg Executive Airport in northern Virginia) I am 49 years old, retired Army vet and currently working full time as a Program Manager migrating servers into the cloud. Today, I logged my third flight. I am truly living my dream of flying. I am soooo hooked on this amazing adventure. Your video was such an inspiring message. It just made so much sense and I applaud you for not getting yourself locked into a soul sucking career. I keep telling my children - find something you enjoy doing and learn how to make a career out of it. If you stop enjoying it because it suddenly becomes a job, change to something else.
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
I appreciate the kind words, and good luck with the rest of your flying endeavors!
@negativeproton4918
@negativeproton4918 2 года назад
Good luck to you brother. Glad you are doing something to change your life if you don’t like the way it is going. Best of luck to you in your new chapter.
@jeanseme6925
@jeanseme6925 2 года назад
I really appreciate listening to you! Keep doing what you Love!✌🏽🖤
@Over50andLearningToFly
@Over50andLearningToFly 5 лет назад
Bravo John! This is the absolute right thing to do... You can never get more time. I started Over 50 and Learning to Fly on YT .... have a look- I just bought my first airplane last week. I am at KVKX in the DC area.
@FLY8MA
@FLY8MA 5 лет назад
I like it! Hope to see you when we swing through that area on our trip! Keep track of our progress on the new channel! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xMmhvfg4XfI.html
@kingjaffe321
@kingjaffe321 4 года назад
Thank you for your honesty
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
Of course! Trying to be as transparent as possible
@hemangs.2678
@hemangs.2678 4 года назад
I appreciate your videos so much! I fly out of Sarasota as a student pilot and I've found your videos extremely helpful and I have my PPL checkride next week. Your videos are a lifesaver!!!
@menopillion9853
@menopillion9853 2 года назад
This was extremely useful. THANK YOU!
@mnijpc
@mnijpc Год назад
Love this video and honesty. I started flying at 20 then stopped and got into sales. I can't sales. My office is on finals of a major airport and everyday I'm reminded of my passion. I final cracked and I'm starting flight school at 40, because I cant stand the thought of being in sales for another 35 years when I can fly for the next 35 years (CAA).
@davidhoward5687
@davidhoward5687 2 года назад
I'm 32 and taking my introductory flight tomorrow. I have always dreamed of this job, I have played simulators all my life and the one plane I always flew in every simulator was the Cessna 172. I love general aviation.
@coachgreg3
@coachgreg3 2 года назад
I've come across your content in the last month and change. Super excited to have found it. I'm only 5 hours into flight, but loving the information, and can't wait to grow because of guys like you that help create great content for us. Truly appreciate it.
@joshuac2594
@joshuac2594 Год назад
Airlines are offering big money now compared to what he is suggesting it was back when this was posted. PSA and Piedmont among others offering $95/hr now for first officers.
@chawkz
@chawkz Год назад
@@joshuac2594 correct, first year at PSA you’ll make minimum $118,000 USD. Nothing to scoff at
@nrnrnrnrn4527
@nrnrnrnrn4527 3 года назад
I admired what you ve done ..and it totally make sense I love aviation from bottom of my heart
@anelnp
@anelnp 5 лет назад
I love your personality! I bet you make a good instructor :) Hope it all worked out for you.
@AndreiDoroftei
@AndreiDoroftei 5 лет назад
CFI to night freight to American Eagle to AA...7 type ratings 15,000 hours and your 100% correct. your awesome!!!!!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Thanks! Just happy to be having fun now before I look back and feel like I was working doing something I didn't love! Keep track of our new adventure on the vlog channel! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xMmhvfg4XfI.html
@gerryortiz7276
@gerryortiz7276 5 лет назад
FLY8MA.com Flight Training Do you have your own flight school?
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 лет назад
Hey Gerry! We run an online ground school for Private, instrument, and commercial students. We only do flight instruction on a limited basis due to the demand for our instructors...
@gerryortiz7276
@gerryortiz7276 5 лет назад
FLY8MA.com Flight Training Nice you guys need any more CFI’s?
@malakov5
@malakov5 2 года назад
Hey I just wanted to say that I appreciate all your hard work. Fly8ma ground school was amazing. Thank you for making a great course. Thank you from KHAO
@nickhart5332
@nickhart5332 4 года назад
I’m sure glad you made the choice to quit and go on this amazing journey and sharing it with us! Also the great ground school that’s taught me so much and is helping me towards my private!
@guraliuck
@guraliuck 5 лет назад
I work as a carpenter and fly on 737's weekly to go fly and work 7 -12 hour shifts, Then i fly home and get one week off etc.... I earn what you you earn and can't believe they pay so little. The responsibility you guys have for your plane and passengers and crew mates is absolutely aweful. I thank you for your professionalism. Please fly safe and God Bless! Ron G
@sherrygate3666
@sherrygate3666 4 года назад
Ronald Guraliuck 😢😢 Get back to me on sherrygate00@gmail.com
@crazytekkie1
@crazytekkie1 4 года назад
Lol that was a great video.. Answered a bunch of stuff I was curious about and not all the glory parts and with an entertaining twist.
@quintonsands3068
@quintonsands3068 2 года назад
I'm looking forward to starting my piloting process, I love this video it's giving me great insight
@TheMrandreslopez
@TheMrandreslopez 3 года назад
Amazing video thank you for your honesty experience.
@tahadanna
@tahadanna 4 года назад
Best decision you’ve ever made. You see; working for the regionals and going through what you said is not worth it, and one should look for other flying jobs. On the other hand working overseas is much better. The money is good and the lifestyle is excellent. I’m with you all the way.
@555pontifex
@555pontifex 4 года назад
You communicate really fluently, really well. Definitely, you would be wasted being a full-time commercial pilot. God bless you.
@thomashughes9361
@thomashughes9361 4 года назад
I'm 51, a current student, Inverness Florida, training in a cardinal 177.....good channel, good luck with it!
@christinpolen7994
@christinpolen7994 4 года назад
CIC here, love your passion. I'm getting back into flying at 56 years young. After primary I fell in love with gliders. Once you pull the tow rope release off to play!!!
@JohnBobRoger
@JohnBobRoger 5 лет назад
Nice to hear the other side....! Obviously he values home and family. I'd like to get CPL training from a pilot like him.
@salvadorgonzalez6405
@salvadorgonzalez6405 5 лет назад
As a 16 year former regional mechanic., you told nothing but the truth., currently working for a Low Cost carrier Airbus equipped there is a ginormous difference on quality of life., My respects for choosing quality of life vs quantity in life.
@kimicollier9846
@kimicollier9846 4 года назад
kudos to you..!!! it's people like you that MAKE aviation real..!!
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199
@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад
I try my best!!
@x_MrYAYA_x
@x_MrYAYA_x Год назад
Thank you for being truthful and not like some of these propaganda RU-vid channels that make it seem like it's so great being an airline pilot with no downsides.
@GdubtheKing
@GdubtheKing 4 года назад
I deeply love this video! I always wanted to know what a pilots’ life is like! Now that I’m TSA I get to talk to pilots more often but you have answered my questions and you made a few great points! Btw my home airport is MDW but I work at ORD
@brianmorris7642
@brianmorris7642 5 лет назад
I flew for TWA and subsequently furloughed after 9/11. I decided to take a break from flying. AA bought us and the pilot lists were merged while I was out. About 5 years ago I was recalled to AA. Given I'd be super junior with AA, was 50 years old, I told them no. I didn't want to fly weekends, holidays, etc. Too comfortable to go back. And I don't regret the decison one bit. Flying GA out of SFB (Sanford International Airport).
@AviatorInspirations
@AviatorInspirations 5 лет назад
Great to hear you found your happy ending!
@jcheck6
@jcheck6 5 лет назад
What are you living on Brian?
@brianmorris7642
@brianmorris7642 5 лет назад
My career is in talent development/training. I leveraged my aviation experience to work developing aviation training. This spread to other avenues as well.
@beachbum4691
@beachbum4691 5 лет назад
Ex Airline Pilots are very well received everywhere in the commercial world :)
@pauldirschka7052
@pauldirschka7052 2 года назад
Great video! Glad to know you found an alternative that brings you satisfaction. I'm looking forward to shaking your hand somewhere. BTW, getting to 60+ isn't the end, I bought a plane and got my ppl at 64, it's a great adventure.
@jessicamarion2955
@jessicamarion2955 2 года назад
Chester County Airport - MQS Thanks for making this video. It really was something I needed to hear!
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