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Always refreshing to see your reviews and thoughts on cameras, because unlike clickbait RU-vidrs, you know that using a camera is about the 500 little things that aren't outlined in the top lines of the spec sheet (like controls, grip, colors, menu options, and lenses).
I really appreciate your fair assessment on the Nikon Z series. I own a Z6 and the negative feedback on this camera system has always been unfair to me.
Real photographers who focus on the pictures they create use the system to their benefit and understand the process. The negative reviews come from the internet and youtube reviewers who make money on click baits and responses to ther epost, they don't care anything about the practical reality. They read spec sheets.
Nikon cameras just feel great in the hand. Picked up a Z6 in a store, haven't felt something so comfortable before. Everything feels right. I'm still not able to go full frame yet, but I'm looking forward to options when the Z6iii or Z7iii comes out. As a hybrid shooter, I just need 10 bit 420/422 internal so I hope they'll be able to do it in future.
For me ,I take only pictures and image quality is very important and Nikon raw files are fantastic to work with ..Final output matters for me than specs and other features..
The only issue the 1st gen Zs have that affects most people is the focus isn't quite as good as it is on the latest Canons or Sonys, but a good photographer knows how to get the best out of their camera. Wildlife and sports are perfectly possible if you use them properly. I just love the ergonomics, colours and stellar glass that goes with the Z system.
@@gunmenow for me it was that I didn't need the high megapixel from the z7 and that I really didnt want to spend all that money since it's just a hobby of mine
@@Zopf-international hahahaha i have 25 vintage primes, i want to shoot full frame manual focus with the Z series and auto focus with the upcoming fuji 27mm mk ii WR or the very fun and rugged 23/2 WR...
Totally agree with you about the flip screen and I hate the articulating screens as well. My wife has a z6 and loves it, she’s got the kit lens along with the 50mm and 20mm primes and they are absolutely brilliant.
Yeah, I'm afraid the a7IV get an articulating screen. If so and if Nikon survives, this alone is worthy changing system. When the a7III is not to get anymore, I guess I'll go to Nikon, if they're still with us and kept the flip screen.
Øyvind Holmstad yes it’s certainly a good enough reason for me to move as well. It’s only come about from peer pressure from content creators rather than photographers. IMO there are very few reasons for a majority of photographers and or videographers to need an articulating screen, if anything they get in the way. If the only reason you want a screen like that then buy into a system that offers it rather then forcing manufacturers to include it on all cameras. Personally I think fugi totally spoilt the XT4 when what they had on the XT3 was perfect in my mind. I’m so glad that Nikon haven’t succumbed yet although it’s only a matter of time. In the meantime I’m going to enjoy many more years with the current offerings.
@@cotswoldphotographers Yeah, me to. If the a7IV has articulating screen my next camera will be an a7III as well. I'll then stick with the a7III as long as it's still in production, and when it's not to get anymore I'll see which brand still has flip screen.
@@cotswoldphotographers I am a hybrid shooter and I want a fully articulating screen. I don't understand the hate people have for it. You just don't have to flip it in front. Meanwhile Nikon is loosing a whole generation of shooters. Tell any below thirty (more so women) that they cant take selfies with a camera, they won't believe you it exist.
Daniel Villiers well I’m quite happy the way it is and stand by my comments. I’m interested to know other than for filming yourself why articulated screens are needed, because I honestly can’t see any other reason for it.
The longer the original “Zeds” are in circulation the more people come round and say how generally good they are (image quality always seeming to be at the top), specs etc. notwithstanding. And everyone typically says how good they feel in one’s hands. I’m still wedded to my Nikon DSLRs but I just know somewhere out there in the future I’ll add a Zed. Great video. Thanks.
Just bought a new z7 and I'm very glad I did. Got an amazing camera for $2500. It does everything I need and more. Don't really understand all the complaints about it. Maybe people are just bored? I don't know. But it's a great camera.
Well. I just pulled the trigger on a Z7 kit. A good time to hunt now that the 2nd gen is long out, the Z9 is in peoples hands, and a Z8 seems to be inevitable fairly soon. I forwent the primes and opted for just the Z 24-70/4 for a native starter - from all I've seen it really is one of the most special "kit" lenses ever released..... And besides, I'll be spending most of my time adapting Takumars and Hexanons anyhow. :)
Awesome video, nice to see another user really enjoy the Z series. Similarly myself I've been thinking about when I replace my initial D3500 that I bought at the start of my photography journey in December 2019 that I would start to save towards a Nikon Z6 after I finish university next year. Its a long term goal for sure with pricing but everything seems to be pointing towards that I'll cherish it.
I absolutely agree with you, this was always a great camera. Any camera that can deliver as good images as the D850 is a fantastic camera. Why should one card slot render a camera, a bad camera? I'll wait until this COVID-19 situation goes away, when everyone decides that its time to move on to better cameras and sell the "so call bad Z7," then I grab one!
I'm glad you mentioned the S line lenses as a reason to buy into the Nikon Z system. They are superb. I have just been testing the 85 mm f1.8S against my Leica APO-Summicron SL 90mm f2 Asph. The Cron is a hair better than the Nikon for corner to corner sharpness and microcontrast, but given that it costs six times the price of the Nikon, the S lens represents phenomenal value.
Nice one Mattias. I spent all day photographing Brooklyn dogs in Halloween costumes with my Z 6 and brand-new 35mm 1.8S, and I've got to say it's the best camera I've yet tried. The lens is great too, before I was using the 24-70mm f/4 and the Laowa 9mm, this is actually my first digital 35mm lens but I am very impressed from this first day using it. I'm committed enough to go for the 50mm 1.2S next.
highlight metering is a *fantastic* idea. Didn't know any cameras offered this... I also like the look of the colour based histogram on Sigma FP-L, which overlays different colours on on the image on the screen to tell you the level of exposure. I think I saw it in a video review somewhere and it looked pretty useful
I have the z6 and agree with your thoughts completely. The video autofocus is worth mentioning too. It’s great. No pulsing flickering or jumping. I have the older Fuji xt2 still as well that pairs nicely.
All cameras today are very good for many situations... I use two systems. Fuji and Olympus, because this systems offered me great lenses for the best price. The features of Olympus cameras are outstanding. Sorry for my bad english, I am from Germany 🤷♂️. 😉
I shoot with the preserve highlights mode on my D750 almost all the time... excellent mode option. If Fuji had it, I'd be there, quite frankly. Nice seeing videos from you Mattias :)
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548 I bracket with it and a +1.5 ... It's generally best when your highest highlights contain detail, an be careful with specular or large lights in the scene pointing at you. Takes a few shoots and then you're good ;)
Excellent points about the Nikon Z7, Mattias! As a landscape and product photographer, I'm quite pleased with the level of sharpness and detail I get from this camera, combined with the stellar Nikkor S lenses! That said, have you experienced the "known issue" of rubber disintegration" at the Function buttons by the lens Mount? In September I bought an "E+" rated used Z7 from a large camera store in NYC. It was pristine. Then, a few weeks ago I noticed that the rubber around the Function buttons starting to flake off a bit. I was concerned that if it got worse, it could potentially deposit tiny bits of rubber into the sensor area. So, I am exchanging it for a "newer" Z7 with only 15 shutter actuations. As I was told that this occurred in a relatively small number of "Older" bodies, I'm hoping that Nikon addressed the issue between the two bodies' manufacture! Thanks you sir, and Be Safe! Steve
There are a lot of fabulous older cameras out there i just picked up a mint D300s and the images are impressive. I'll keep an eye out for a Z6. I enjoy your commentaries. Thank uou
Hi Mattias, I'm on the verge of switching camera system from a Fuji X-T2 to either a full frame Canon RF camera or a Z Nikon. I'm looking at either the RP/R or the Z5/Z6. I'm really torn between the two solutions as they both have some strengths and weaknesses. I could put my hands on a Z6 with a 24-70 F4 and later on add a 35 1.8 and an 85 1.8 (I could even consider going for the Viltrox 85 here). On the Canon side I should "downgrade" to the 24-105 f4-f7.1 to match the Nikon entry price but then get the 35 and 85 for cheaper compared to the Nikon equivalent options. As I mentioned, both systems are closely matched in their value proposition. Since you have experience with both, where would you put your money if you were to invest in these two brands? I don't do videos I might add, both systems would serve as a travel, family/portrait/pet, occasional landscape options. At the moment I'm not considering sticking with the Fuji system as I consider it too pricey for what it is.
The Highlight Metering Mode is such a great feature on Nikons. Fuji is the only other system use and I wish they also had this mode. I somtimes forget my D750 has this.
@@Being_Joe I found it invaluable when shooting something like a theater scene. You typically have very strong lights but very dark backdrop. So standard metering tends to do funky stuff that can easily blow out highlights.
Liked all your points especially the LCD screen. I think Fuji has the best around but I don't personally like the fully articulating screens and glad they keep it on the lower end models. As I've been shooting more and more at night using my Df I realized I don't actually need the high low light capabilities and that 3200 is about all I need, maybe 6400 to stop motion. So I was thinking about the IBIS and shooting at f2.8 in LV0, LV1 conditions or under moonlight in a dark parking light as a visual. It's become habit for me to zero out my camera at night, just building up memory for calculations in my head. Especially as I get older, I'm preparing for memory loss as early as 35yrs so I have something in place now vs later. I also am preparing for pilot's school and bar tending. So to the point. Zeroing out my camera settings for LV0 or LV1 conditions. LV measure means no matter where I am in the world, who ever is reading my scenario knows what my environment looks like. f1 (f1.2), iso 100, 1s I like shooting at 50mm (40mm especially) but other focal lengths too like 105mm. I hate tripods and monopods but for sports they are a must. The point converting the EV from earlier with a f2.8 lens and still being able to stabilize the lens for LV0, LV1 you need 5 to 7 stops of IBIS. f1.2 to f2.8 is 2 full stops (no f1 lenses and the .95 Noct is overkill and I can't afford it to make profit) 5 -2stops of IBIS = f2.8 or +3 stops of IBIS remaining. I use the focal length rule so I just count from 1s in full stops to get y focal length. 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/15, 1/25 Which lands me on 1/8 or 8mm roughly. That's too wide for my taste. Off to iso performance. I don't mind 24mm which only 2 more stops away (from iso100). 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200 ISO 400 it is then. f2.8, iso 400, 1/25, 24mm should capture LV1 conditions with no noise, and stabilized. Even if I needed more speed the Z7 can shoot cleanly up to ISO 800 with no noise correction and that would double to 1/50. Then I got thinking if I got a 24mm VR lens that would give me 7stops of IBIS. 4s, f2.8, iso100 (this is also LV1 EV) Anything beyond 1s I hate hand holding. Simply b/c that's my boredom benchmark unless it's a slow pan or something. In the 7stop scenario gotta count back 5stops. 4, 2, 1, 1/2, 1/4 I got 1/4s and I'm not using a 4mm lens even if one existed. 1/4, 1/8, 1/15, 1/25 100, 200, 400, 800 Cool I can deal with iso800 f2.8, iso800, 1/25 at 24mm VR This is just theoretical. I gotta figure out if Nikon has 7stops of IBIS using a 24mm f2.8 lens with VR. Regardless the Z7 still has 2stops more I'm perfectly fine using without NR (3200). Final reason is being able to crop up to 400% 24mm x1.2 52mm x1.5 60mm x2 72mm x3 96mm x4 120mm For me at least I definitely see why the Z7 cost more than the Z6 and it has better low light natively without cropping tricks. So with that, that leads me back to the Z50. Man if that little guy had IBIS OMFG and when I owned one it was really good in low light. The bonus was that it's more balanced than the Z6/Z7 so technically you shouldn't need IBIS beyond what that kit lens provides however it's not f2.8 and here in lies an issue that caused me to return it among others. f2.8 to f3.5 is 2/3 less light and a bit more DOF. I'm not opposed to shooting f4 at night but you gotta really be looking for LV4 and above conditions. Anyone getting this far you typically need and f2 lens in LV2, f4 lens in LV4 works and so on. EV0 is 5 on the 10stop scale so count down to zero (1/3 increments) and you get EV0 or -1.7EV (exp. Comp). The Z50 just complicates my mental math.
One other item is how intuitive these cameras are to use. I picked up a Z6 in a store and within minutes had the camera set up to do what I wanted to do. Try that with a Sony or even a Canon.
Hey Mattias; you may have worked this out already but RE metering modes you can set it to one of the customisable buttons (I use Function 2) which means you can easily press and roll the command dial to change modes - even easier than finding a physical button IMO
Great video. I remember the criticism Nikon and Canon received when they decided to release their first mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. Its good to see that even for a first attempt, they seemed to have done a pretty great job with these. I think I will keep my D750 just a little longer.
If You had to choose between a Z7 and a Z6ii for almost the same price as a person more focused into still shots with only a little bit of interest in video. Which one would you choose? Megapixels of the Z7 or Speed and versatility of the Z6ii?
I agree that Nikon did well to release a good number of primes at F1.8 rather than take the route Sony and Canon went with when they were launching their native ML lenses. Used, the Z7 can be had for less than $2K. Firmware updates have made the AF more competitive.
Yo he is absolutely right, I have a Fuji X-T2 and man that tilting screen in portrait mode with the grip is literally the best, I can just set my 100-400's tripod collar on the ground and short animals to my hearts content without getting in the mud :D
Funny you should mention the D750 video - Im still using my D750 for hybrid work and love the 1080 from it. Im trying to figure if I can use it on a DJI RS gimbal or if Ill need another camera with video AF.
@@smalltalk.productions9977 yes but my camera only has contrast detect AF - so I use it to acquire a focal plane only. Its perfectly useable for 90% of my clips - but of course I can't film anything coming towards me for more than a second.
I know it's a small thing, but I totally agree about the metering mode switches/collars on the Fuji X-Tx series. Matrix is good like 90% of the time, but being able to switch to spot (or better yet, highlight) when you need it is awesome. Anything that saves time in post by getting it done right/quickly in-camera is worthwhile.
Besides the battery grip and dual cards, is there any other benefit from the II model? I want to start working on a professional level but the D850 seems like old news. I'm torn between the Z7 at a lower price or get the Z7II to be top dog for a couple of years. (I'm into portrait photography)
Hello Mattias, I stumbled across your video as I'm shopping for a used high megapixel camera and wanted to know your opinion between the Nikon Z7 and the Sony A7R3. I'll make my own opinion on which to buy, but I just wanted to know your thoughts on each. Thanks
Me personally I would go for the Z7 because of the controls and mount. The Z-mount is a much better mount for mirrorless full frame and in he long run I suspect it will have a better ecosystem.
I couldn't give a monkeys about there only being one card slot either. I have a D700 and a D90, both with one card slot and both are excellent camera's. I always felt that Nikon ever so slightly rushed the Z series into production to stop themselves falling too far behind Sony and Canon to be able to catch up. The Z6 II and Z7 II are definitely a step in the right direction, but the first gen camera's will always be marmite camera's, loved and hated in equal measure by folk from across the photography community. Would I have one? Hell yeah!
Change "camera's" (possessive) to "cameras" (plural) and I'm in complete agreement with you. One card slot? I bought my Z7 while my Sony a9 was in for warranty repair. The Sony's behavior became increasingly erratic, at one point corrupting *both* cards simultaneously, before dying entirely: fortunately, I only lost some test shots I made while experimenting at home with lighting setups. Nikon had such a deal on the Z7 kit (including 24-70mm lens and FTZ adapter) that I considered it a cheap rental while the Sony was in shop, and I figured to sell the one I liked least: I'd spent a month in SE Asia with the Sony and found it uncomfortable in the hand. The salesman, knowing I enjoy macro photography, loaned me his personal 105mm Micro-Nikkor to try with the FTZ adapter: it worked perfectly! I ended up trading the Sony for a surplus Leica M10 (Only one card slot! Anguish!!) _Betriebskamera_ (factory demonstrator/R&D unit) and a 1979-manufactured Leitz Canada 50mm f/2 Summicron-M, which is the combo I wear every day and everywhere.
Great information. Quick question. What does the focus tracking look like for animals? Long time Nikon person. Primarily pet photography now. I do not want to change brands. Have a lot invested in Nikon glass. But many of my peers shoot Sony because of the great tracking. Thoughts? Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I was shocked to see the Fuji X-T4 with a 'on the side' screen. If this is how it's going be from now on, then I have to look elsewhere for my next camera.
I might get one remind me I think I found one in okay condition for about 275 I might have to glue some of the rubber or change it have you had any experience with a Cf to SD card adapter
I bought a D3 about 2 years ago with 38k clicks for £420. Ridiculous. It hasn't lost any value since. Every time I go out with it I feel like I'm on a mission...even if I only shoot ducks...
@@BeatPoet67 sorry for the typo yeah he already sold it I think 400 is pricey for 76000 clicks I think it was. I think I might have found a d700 or d610 I might grab the Canon 5D classic.
man I wish highlight-weighted metering was an option in more systems.. I love my G80 (and MFT as a system generally), but that's a killer feature it's missing
Nikon Z has an unusual strength: great performance in the corners with M-mount lenses due to a thin filter stack on the sensor and a large mount size, which yields much better performance than any Sony cameras. Many Leica rangefinder users buy the SL2, specifically to use the M-mount lenses with focus peaking. The SL2 has a special filter to enable maximum performance for M-mount lenses. The Z cameras perform quite similarly to SL2 in this regard and are much cheaper. What’s the big deal with M-mount lenses? I can fit a trio of super fast Voigtlander 21 F1.4, 40 F1.2, 75 F1.5 on top of my palm, they are tiny. A trio of them is smaller than a single Sigma 40 F1.2. Modern Voigtlander m-mount lenses are optically very good in actual use, at reasonable price. And there are bargain lenses from TTartisan and 7artisan, some which perform really well optically, some which offer unique artistic look. No autofocus? With a Megadap MTZ11 adapter, autofocus is possible with all manual focus lenses. Yes, it’s not as fast as the native lenses, but new adapters keep coming up. At a point, the benefit of size/weight will outshine the absolute focusing speed. Also, the short flange distance of the Z cameras allow adapting to most lenses from other brands.
I don’t know why people got so upset over 1 card slot, XQD and CFE has the reliability of an SSD where the odds of it failing are the same odds as the entire camera failing. And for those of us from the film days, I don’t think any of us were demanding dual film slots 😂 The Z line are great bodies, only question now is do I add the Z6ii as my 2nd body and sell one of 1st gen Z6 bodies, or add a used Z7, or splurge for the new Z7ii? I’ll probably go with used as I’ve seen the original Z7 selling online with little use for $1700 USD We’ll see what happens as the GF had the Nikon site open (and she’s not a photog) so maybe there’s a Z6ii in my future already 😀
That depends on what you want to use it for. For static things like landscapes, a Z7 is a better buy than the Z7II as you don't need the better AF of the Z7II.
i cant this answer. the z7 in monochrome, does the colour filter allow for the a live view of the monochrome scene with colur highlights beforee post? like the p series bridge cameras (scene mode)
For casual shooter and family, what camera you recommend (not too expensive but deliver great images)? most for still , but maybe use it for video sometimes (don't like to shoot video on camera coz the file size is big). Thanks
The term of inexpensive is different for everyone, thus great image too. It depends on your own goal and bank account. In this channel even photo from Nokia smartphone produced a nice result . That being said, if you're not really into video, an old DSLR with 1080p capability might be the best option imo (don't forget to considering your budget on the lenses).
@@Durio_zibethinus thanks.. Maybe the budget is limited to $1000 (max). I'm not interested in dslr due to the size. I'm considering point and shoot camera (1 inch sensor such as sony ZV1), but I'm not sure about the IQ. I don't print photo in a big size, maybe it's just A4 paper size.
@@wikenseru8187 that's quite hefty of money lol. If your concern is IQ, you may want to revisit Mattias's photos with a cheap gear, like pentax Q or samsung which is also has a 1 inch sensor. If you satisfied with his result, then the problem may land with our own skill. ZV1 isn't that old, if you're happy with its lens limitation and battery life, then you're good to go . Channel like Snappypic & Nigel Barros has a skill beyond their gear. "Cheap gear challenge" also recommended for limiting the GAS . That being said, I'd still recommend interchangeable-lens system for better investment and future-proof. We may get better in photography as a time goes by, but not with our fixed lens. So be capable to changing lens as our need may be a best option imo
Amazing focus peaking with old manual focus lenses. I started using red peaking, but then switched to blue. Depending on how close you want to focus, it sometimes helps to adjust peaking sensitivity, stronger for further objects and less intense peaking for closer.
Yeah I was supposed to mention that but forgot. That they still insists on having the lenses mount the wrong way is just annoying at this point. With a new mount they had the opportunity to fix it.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I am moving from Sony back to Nikon after owning a Nikon DSLR, but the reversed locking mechanism when mounting a lens is maddening - I never got used to it and find mounting end caps almost impossible! Other than that the Nikon kicks the pants of the Sony - better grip, better eye relief, better colour, better EVF, better 1.8 lenses, better IBIS and most importantly, the absolute best images.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter hmmmm I’m seeing you said you’ve seen it as low as $1300 I’m having a hard time finding one they’re like $1900 - $2500 on eBay what sources would you recommend?
@@gearreallydoesntmatter well for instance I shoot a Nikon d7000. And I shoot concert photography, but I’m wanting sharper, crisper images and I’m wanting decent battery life. I’m hoping this one will get the job done for me.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter this is a big thing for me. I can almost never look at a camera for stills only and I don’t like the cooler colors out of the Nikon cameras compared to Canon. When editing raw stills it’s less of a deal breaker but in video it’s annoying.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter the Z6 is more suited as a hybrid camera. Better video quality than the Z7 and the still/video switch is a much better implementation than what Canon has.
I bet if I gave you a plastic toy camera you would still manage to get amazing shots :-) Agree that the button layout and grip are quite good (compared to my A7iii), and it has a touch screen the way it's supposed to work ;-)
--> Highlight weighed metering: F2 Setting: assign this meter mode to the "sub selector center" aka joy stick press, and you are fine. I have the thing since it came out. Of course I get that some may genuinely require certain capabilities like twin card slots. I don't and always use one only. I also prefer largely tilt screens over fully articulated screens, but it seems there are too many people filming themselves out there. The Z never has let me down on anything. An extremely reliable camera. Adapters for almost any camera system are available and some even with auto focus (Leica M lens AF now coming). The Z can be carried a whole day in had without problems due to its fantastic ergonomics. Viewfinder is really brillant. What's not to like. I guess it will stay with me for quite some more time to come.
Two years ago I was a Nikon DSLR user (D7200 and D7000) thinking of going mirrorless. Nikon then launched the Z6 and Z7 and I finally decided to take the plunge into mirrorless. I sold my Nikon DSLR gear and got a Fujifilm X-T2 and X-E3. Nikon were just not offering what I wanted at a price that was acceptable. I love the Fuji system!
I couldn't afford them wren they were new and I still can't afford now 😅 Especially after I lost my paid internship at the start of a certain global pandemic.
If you want a mirrorless camera on a tiny budget look for a Sony NEX-6. I know that they weren't popular but the EVF is actually better than the A7000 and the picture quality is good. You can get a converter and use old cheap Nikon lenses on them as well.
Love highlight metering. Mapped it to the first function button. Quickly available when I want it. For a more filmic motion picture look try shooting in "portrait" picture control style with the sharpening turned down a bit.
That XQD only is the main reason because I left the Z6 on the shelf: I have many cameras and a lot of SD cards while xqd are both extremely expensive and useless unless you are in the video market, for which there are better cameras anyway. The terrible FTZ is another reason: why not offer a screwdriver AF to Z since it already exists for Sony A to E? Finally, the third party EF to Z seems excellent but expensive: if a reasonably cheap camera is gonna cost you like an high end one once you get all the bells and whistle you need to actually enjoy it, it's not worth.
Great Camera but bad ergonomics. Why did Nikon build that body for gnomes? It could be the best FF camera. But I can not operate and carry that tiny body properly. And I have big but not huge hands...
Gonna get one alongside my trusty Z6 as a portrait and landscape camera. I have like 5 Z lenses that are gonna be worthless when Nikon went out of business in the foreseeable future, but no regrets.
Contrary to what you may have seen, Nikon are not in danger of going out of business. The loss was always forecast due to the change to mirrorless happening at the same time as camera sales are going down, but they forecast profits going into 2022. Canon made a loss in Q1 last year but they haven't gone out of business.
@@praetorian65 Nikon's been in a very steady ressession in past 2 decades. They carry too much burden from the past, and they're even dropping their global warrenty system. They can't design or manufacture their own CMOS or processors. They still has an edge in optics, but its importance is deminishing. My hope for them in the future is to be like Fuji at best and Olympus at worst. They will still be around for a while, for sure.
As of the current moment (Oct 21), the prices for second-hand / used / pre-owned Nikon Z7's on Ebay is unattractive. I've seen people asking over $2K for a used Z7 and I'm sorry, no warranty, no history... not worth it. Especially since the entire range will take a step down when the Z9 is released (someday)! I'd rather save another $800 - $1K and buy a brand new Z7 II body. The Z7 does have an annoying habit of preferring to focus on light areas in an image over darker ones. Also, the custom buttons (settings) are confused (because they are not truly independent of one another). So the Z7 has its flaws beyond those discussed here. If I could pick up a Z7 for $1500 on the second hand market I might be tempted, but that's not where the market is at today.
