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5 Reasons to Choose Micro 4/3 over Full Frame 

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Here are the 5 best reasons that I came up with to choose a micro 4/3 camera over a full frame camera. Hopefully you guys understand and don't unsubscribe just from the title. This video does NOT claim that micro 4/3 cameras are better than full frame, it's simply a video listing off 5 reasons why a micro 4/3 camera might be better for you (as it is for me.)
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@DrShaym
@DrShaym 5 лет назад
The sensor size doesn't affect depth of field. It's matching focal length equivalents that affects it. A 50mm f/2 will have the exact same depth of field on a micro four-thirds sensor as it would on a full frame. The only thing that will be different is the angle of view due to the 2x crop factor on micro four-thirds. To get the same angle of view as a 50mm on full frame, you need a 25mm on micro four-thirds. Since wider lenses intrinsically have a deeper depth of field, that 25mm f/2 will look like a 50mm f/4 on full frame. _That's_ where the difference comes from. It has nothing to do with the sensor and everything to do with the lens.
@swashy8933
@swashy8933 4 года назад
@@MysticCaravan That comment adds nothing.
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 4 года назад
This is exactly correct. Ye cannae break the laws of physics. If you want that shallow depth, put the longer lens on and move back from the subject. DoF is also partly lens design. For many years top lens makers like Leica strived to get the sharpest images with deep depth. Now they want bokeh which you can get from a cheap lens. I've got a 400mm Tokina (adapted, all manual) that has about ½-inch DoF at 20 metres, useless for wildlife but great for astro. The adapted Sigma Bigma 50-500 "'for Olympus 4/3" has far better DoF. There are lens design factors. DoF is not solely lens length and aperture, but it is not sensor size.
@derTommy
@derTommy 3 года назад
yes. i stopped the video after i heared what he says about that. it's garbage.
@alexandrupohata9235
@alexandrupohata9235 3 года назад
yah, but the cost of a 25mm f0.9 is kind of high compared to a nifty fifty
@FilmaticProductions
@FilmaticProductions 3 года назад
I stopped the video and subscribed to your channel, bro.
@smallbrownfox594
@smallbrownfox594 5 лет назад
Yes, I agree. I use FF, but have the GH5s and prefer it for all the reasons you state. Sensible argument and well delivered 👍🏼
@MichaelSelhost
@MichaelSelhost 5 лет назад
I'm so glad there's someone on RU-vid who gets the value in this format. We don't need blindingly blurred backgrounds, night vision, or to look/sound fancy while going into debt. We just need good images, that's it.
@WEHAVETHISDREAM
@WEHAVETHISDREAM 2 года назад
Real filmmakers don’t blur the background like these wannabe “cinematic” dudes with a full-frame or aps-c filming wide open even in their bedroom filled with LED rgb lights 🙈🤦🏻‍♂️
@londontaxifilms7313
@londontaxifilms7313 3 года назад
This is such a great video. I’ve been on the fence about 4/3 vs FF, and your info is awesome. Thanks!
@AlexCruzHaha
@AlexCruzHaha 4 года назад
Single best video I needed to watch for the last two weeks, I love how budget friendly MFT is. I was worried about everything you just addressed and I am now glad to be switching from my canon m50 to a panasonic!
@StoryDrivenHobbies
@StoryDrivenHobbies 5 лет назад
Love my GH5 and GH5s. But in the end it's not the camera it's the creator.
@Defreyor20
@Defreyor20 4 года назад
Gh5s it's incredible camera for low light !!!!!!
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 4 года назад
The best camera is the one you're holding. It's what you do with it. I generally stuff an E-PL7 with a GX PZ14-42 in my pocket but an still happy shooting film.
@sobadaham
@sobadaham 3 года назад
I had a fukn camcorder. Colors are so ugly. Have to color correct the footage for hours. I never got natural colors. Now I got the BMPCC4K. I can now even publish without even touching the colors. Natural looking. Good details of my shot. Even the 4K footage can be edited without a lag on my computer. Ooof.. Ok.. Not the camera.. I'm the one to blame..!
@mikepawlikguitar
@mikepawlikguitar 3 года назад
This statement has been debunked so many times. You just can't get the same results from a 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 as you can from a 85mm f/1.2. Once the creator's abilities outperform the camera's functionality, gear makes a significant difference.
@MatthewArmstrong
@MatthewArmstrong 5 лет назад
Welcome to the fam. Had your exact insight a few years ago. I’m as convinced as ever after grabbing the g9. Try it. Grab the 7 to 14mm and 12-35mm
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 4 года назад
Almost 4 years ago I went for a Lumix GH4, and it was a good step up from an old iHDV tape cam. Generally use it with an add-on mike which is almost as heavy as the GH4 itself. I normally use it to shoot in 4k @25 fps, and one of the awkward issues is accuracy of autofocus against relatively low contrast background. Often the best way round is to use focus lock, if there’s time to do that, but when using it’s ‘afc’ it can be be mitigated by using suitable depth of field. It can be annoying if it can’t focus accurately in 4k - a bit like shooting yourself in the foot, compared with using HD only, but it’s usually necessary to chop off a few frames at the start of each clip when editing the footage for this reason. Used to use an add-on neutral density filter so as to shoot at a chosen frame rate, but these days I don’t mind shooting at higher speeds for many things, having decided that in the 4k world it’s a myth that it’s wise to use twice the frame rate or whatever, resulting in most frames being sharp most of the time. Then there’s always the option of taking out a still shot that way. The one I have has a 14 - 110 zoom lens, with optical image stabiliser. Possible to use it hand held right up to the top end (as long as you don’t mind tweaking it in editing).
@buildingoklahoma3129
@buildingoklahoma3129 5 лет назад
The big issue with gh5 is the autofocus issues well I came across a piece of info that if you change the degree of shutter from 180 to 179 it will resolve the focus issue that everyone complains about. try this and let me know if this works for you all :)
@mikesch0815
@mikesch0815 5 лет назад
I shoot stills since 6 years with mFT. It works. Most of my pictures been watched on a screen, some printed out. Nobody told my all that time, that my pictures are bad.
@wahabdilawar
@wahabdilawar 5 лет назад
I am just a photography enthusiast and I am a Nikon shooter for past 4 years, but recently bought a new Olympus O-MD EM10 II and I am loving it. Very nice video. Thank you very much for your time and effort.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing! I love to hear that! More content coming soon
@EssentialTomodachi
@EssentialTomodachi 4 года назад
Good to hear. I'm still learning the technical side of cameras as a filmmaker and I knew almost nothing when I bought my G7. It's good to know that I probably didn't make a bad investment in the long run
@HouseofInstruction12
@HouseofInstruction12 4 года назад
The Essential Tomodachi I got a g7... too glad I did
@PhilippeOrlando
@PhilippeOrlando 5 лет назад
Finally somebody who gets it, particularly about depth of field.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Ahaha right on, brother. It took me a while, but I'm ready for the 4/3 revolution aha
@iforgotmyusername0
@iforgotmyusername0 5 лет назад
Philippe Orlando *was gonna make a similar comment.. this is what happens when camera nerds wise up and think about practicality.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Ahaha, it took me a while. I used to shame the GH5 and say it was crap because it couldn't do good low light. Then the GH5s came out and I didn't really care because the A7S ii was still better. Then I realized how much more valuable 4k at 60fps, 10-bit 422, good IBIS, and all the other features the GH5 has to offer for way cheaper than the Sony cameras are. Well, I actually have a surprise, I'll be revealing it soon 😋
@HuntaDaKilla
@HuntaDaKilla 5 лет назад
Even in photography. I was going through some national geographic and Time collection photo books and realize how much there is a lack of the super bokeh that everyone is so hyped about now days. As if an image does not have bokeh, than it is not that great or could be better. Don't get me wrong, many lenses ion the old days did not have as wide apertures as they do now, but looking at the images you still never feel that the images lack anything.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@HuntaDaKilla I totally agree. Shallow Bokeh =/= good images.
@markjob6354
@markjob6354 4 года назад
Hey Tom ! I used to think just like you, in that I looked down on the whole MFT format as being totally inferior and generally deficient in overall image quality. Then I began to check out the image coming from the Z CAM E2C MFT Camera. Wow ! I was pleasantly surprised to learn of a camera that is just over $1,000.00 CAD, capable of shooting @ True 24.00p and Full 4K DCI 4096 x 2160 pixels with an image that is just killer ! The features versus overal cost ratio is also incredible ! With a proper Metabones Speed Booster/Adaptor on the Z CAM E2C any full frame and especially Super 35 lens can be used. There are now many manufacturors making lenses for MFT as well. I just don't see any disadvantages anymore, and people keep pronouncing the death of the format, but it's here to stay for awhile I think.
@StephenBell_video
@StephenBell_video 3 года назад
Amen Mark!! I was just thinking this today and was on the fence for which Z-Cam to get the e2 or the MFT. How is it for anamorphic support?
@CycleFab
@CycleFab 3 года назад
Good content, GREAT camera presence and very, very informative. Trying to learn all that I can about videograph to make my channel better and this is the first for me to hear anyone talk about the micro 4/3 cameras.
@josephtan1485
@josephtan1485 5 лет назад
Dear Tom, Thanks for the valuable sharing! I have the same assessment after using all micro 4/3, APSC and full frame cameras. It helps a lot to know that there are people who share the same view. Glad to know you! Was really swayed by many who support full frame and bigger sensor
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Awesome! Glad to hear from you Joseph. I agree, MFT rocks
@MikeWalkerCamera
@MikeWalkerCamera 5 лет назад
Agree with all you say, I love my GH5 - have subscibed and look forward to the next one
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon 5 лет назад
I have taken good photographs on a Pentax Q (1/2.3", 5.53x crop) with a f/9 body cap lens...and indoors. I feel like full-frame has become a sort of status symbol that says "I have a lot of money to blow on camera gear and want you to know it." There are some advantages to it, but the gap has largely closed at this point. Next-gen MFT cams like the GH5S with native dual ISO make the 5Dmk4 look like a crippled bulky joke, particularly in the video arena. I liken it to people who buy big lifted pickup trucks: it's showy and there are a few situations it's objectively superior for, but most of the time it's an overpriced, oversized, and inconvenient way to get the same job done.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Solid points!
@aldon78
@aldon78 4 года назад
Ok, I feel better now, I just bought a Canon sx740 with a 1 2/3" sensor 40x optical zoom and I find it takes beautiful picts, my friend keeps on telling me it is not as good as his Sony point and shot also but with a 1 inch sensor, I tell him yeah but you dont have 40x optical zoom, lol and same thing with the bikes, I ride road bike and have an aluminum bike but some people spend thousands on a carbon because it weighs less, the difference? 5 pounds less maybe, so I tell them just loose 5 pounds and save the extra money!
@LarsLarsen77
@LarsLarsen77 3 года назад
Yeah that may be true now, but when canon catches up on sensor tech they will blow sony/panasonic out of the water. Physics dictates that a larger sensor size at the same resolution is going to provide more photons per pixel and thus better image quality.
@LarsLarsen77
@LarsLarsen77 3 года назад
Canon is also coming out with a TINY full frame body soon. They're not using crop sensors at all anymore from here on out.
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon 3 года назад
@@LarsLarsen77 The body size doesn't matter much because full-frame optics will still have to be large and a big sensor brings battery life, overheating worries, and annoying shallow focus depths by default.
@princesphotographystudio
@princesphotographystudio 5 лет назад
I own both the D850 full frame camera and the Pasonic Lumix mirrorless G9 micro 4/3rds. I use the D850 for pictures and the the G9 for video. You explained quite well the difference between the both.
@JakubJacobSobotka
@JakubJacobSobotka 5 лет назад
Thank you for your insights. I am wondering about buying my first semi-professionals camera and I can not decided between FF and M4/3. Would you wait in my position for a new release of Panasonic S1? Looking forward to seeing more content. Merry Xmas!
@gadjox
@gadjox 5 лет назад
What I like is that it's cheaper and the community is large enough. I barely spent more than 1000 euro (excluding accessories) and I'm 4 primes in plus a body and kit, mostly used.
@achmadmarendes
@achmadmarendes Год назад
What are they?
@klackon1
@klackon1 5 лет назад
I'm a fan of M43, I owned 2 x Olympus EM1 bodies, which I subsequently swapped for a single Olympus EM1 mark II. I actually favoured my EM1.2 over my APS-C Nikon D500. As a wildlife photographer (I don't touch video) I felt it was a far more versatile camera. If I only took one camera out, it was my EM1.2. A few months ago I literally swapped my Nikon and Olympus systems for a full frame system based around a Sony A7III and Sony A7II. The reason for the change was because I am nearly always shooting in reduced light, and a full frame sensor really does handle lower light better, in my opinion, than APS-C or M43. If I lived in an area with open fields and blue skies I would own 2 x EM1.2 bodies, as light would not be an issue.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, low light can be a hassle. The GH5s is great for low light video, but only has 10MP, which really isn't gonna work for photography aha.
@alexreay4164
@alexreay4164 5 лет назад
Great video Tom but I beg to differ, 10Mp is enough for vast majority of still requirements, there’s loads of great images lower than 10Mp and even magazine covers in the early digital days were shot with 2Mp cameras. We’re simply being sold mega pixels because of the bigger is better mentality, that’s the only way FF manufacturers can market their systems as supposedly better. 40+Mp cameras are beyond good enough, simple fact is 10Mp is enough. M43 tech is good enough for Pro applications, it’s an amazing feature packed system and can only get better
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@alexreay4164 Hey Alex. You're right, 10MP is technically enough, but for me I'd say it's not. In my experience I find that 18MP+ is what I like to work with. I like being able to crop in without worrying about how much I have to work with, and I find that things just look more crisp at 24MP or higher. I agree, If you're shooting for the web or Instagram or whatever, 10MP works fine, but if you're printing for billboards or even large canvases, I'd much rather have a higher MP count.
@photographer8486
@photographer8486 20 дней назад
@@alexreay4164 Thanks for sharing! I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me. Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
@Dauntlessfilms
@Dauntlessfilms 5 лет назад
Perfect explanation. Great job man. I’ve been saying this for years:) The sweet spot for me is Super35.
@totoroutes5389
@totoroutes5389 5 лет назад
how would you mount a gh5 on a monopod when pairing it with a weighty 100mm f2.8 full frame lens
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Get a tripod collar for the lens if it doesn't already have one. The weight needs to be distributed evenly.
@weekendwanderer5514
@weekendwanderer5514 5 лет назад
Love my G7, but lately I've been drooling over the G9. Fantastic photography camera with very good video features that you can pick up for even less than the GH5.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
I hear really great things about the G9. 4k at 60fps for under $1500!
@BrentODell
@BrentODell 5 лет назад
@@WhatAboutTom I have the G9 and it's great. In fact, I just switched from a Nikon d500 and do almost entirely stills with it. Couldn't be happier.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@BrentODell Damn! Good to know! Even at micro four thirds huh?
@BrentODell
@BrentODell 5 лет назад
@@WhatAboutTom The noise gets pretty bad above iso 3200, and I limit myself to 6400 when using auto iso. My only other complaint is trouble focusing on a smaller subject with strong backlighting, it hunts a bit. Other than that, it's great. The stabilization is insane; hand-held at 300mm(600mm equivalent) and 1/40th sec, and I don't have particularly steady hands.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@BrentODell That's crazy aha. 600mm? Wtf lol. I expect bad low light with MFT tho, so that makes sense.
@AndresLunatic
@AndresLunatic 5 лет назад
i own the G7 with the kit lens and also the 25mm 1.7 simply the best camera and lens i have ever owned
@amd-xf3yj
@amd-xf3yj 5 лет назад
Andrez Agree!! I love it more than my d3300
@StephenBell_video
@StephenBell_video 3 года назад
Tom this advice is sagely and so accurate! As a GH5 and G9 shooter I have pondered the relevance of them lately compared to FF. I have a small investment in my lens both photo, video and cine and don’t want to sell just to move up to FF and spend more. It’s the shooter and the editing not the latest and greatest piece of gear
@joealfanophotography9568
@joealfanophotography9568 5 лет назад
Great video but I’ll stick with my a6400 on a gimbal for video. What if the Sony a7sIII comes out with a global shutter? Would that change your mind? Good question right!
@PixartComAu
@PixartComAu 5 лет назад
DoF or depth of field, is an optical effect. It has nothing with sensor or film size. To create it, you need just a lens. DoF look depends on the (1) focal length of the lens (which determines the field of view and the magnification of the scene relative to bare human eyesight magnification; (2) distance of the lens from the subject, (3) aperture of the lens.
@God-yb2cg
@God-yb2cg 5 лет назад
Everyone knows that, but effectively is cheaper to use a 50mm f1.8 on a full frame than a ~25mm f0.9 on a MFT. Do they even make f0.9 lens?
@PixartComAu
@PixartComAu 5 лет назад
f1.8 lens for 135 format and f1.8 lens for M4/3 format gather same amount of light per unit area, and nothing about the exposure triangle changes because exposure meters tells the same reading, regardless of format. Lenses with 'wider' aperture / larger front elements are made primarily for gathering more light in challenging environments. DoF effect they create at such wide apertures is of secondary concern. Stanley Kubrick used very 'fast' lenses not because he was interested in DoF, but because he was interested to film at candlelight. He knew thin DoF was totally useless, so he moved cameras farther away. So if you had any working knowledge about photography, you would know why is something made, and for what exact purpose. In the history of photography, especially portraits, never was DoF was such concern, nor was compressed 'creamy background' celebrated at all, as it was in recent years, when a horde of amateurs crowded the digital photography grounds with poor taste and ignorant excuses.
@vascorebolo
@vascorebolo 5 лет назад
DOF is not directly influenced by sensor size, but the influence is there. When to get the same POV, with the same lens, you need to be farther away from you subject when using a smaller sensor, you are forced to change one variable (distance to subject) that influences DOF, so there you go, the statement "It has nothing with sensor or film size", it's not completely right.
@PixartComAu
@PixartComAu 5 лет назад
Lens does not know what you want to do with all its characteristics. Same as light, and shadows, and shapes, they do not know what you want to do with them. When you force projection of one lens into some frame of your wild imagination, then you must deal with issues. Optics and photography are in reality very unintimidating, benign and very open for experimentation; it is the utter amateurs who in lack of visual and history knowledge invent most bizarre rules, that cripple the field down to absurdities.
@LegendaryGauntlet
@LegendaryGauntlet 5 лет назад
f/0.95 is close enough...
@trevorpinnocky
@trevorpinnocky 5 лет назад
Good info. The original pocket is a s16 sensor, BTW, not m43.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
trevorpinnocky Ah this is true. They're fairly similar, but I believe the s16 has slightly more crop than MFT. Thanks for bringing that up.
@aaronpeipert
@aaronpeipert 5 лет назад
The bmpcc totally fits in the mft world & ecosystem because of its mount. True it’s an s16 sensor, but it’s just added crop factor onto your focal length. I have both the gh5 & bmpcc, both great cameras and I think of them as mft. Great video by the way.
@cameronkrause4712
@cameronkrause4712 Год назад
even if this video is a few years old it has lots of great info and frankly, it's so well made that it's easy to watch. This 'easy to watch' quality is something that a lot of people seem to forget when they're making their film.
@OmarSherien
@OmarSherien 5 лет назад
Exactly the way I think.❤️ totally agree
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
Still watching the video, but another thing is when you look at the size of the old 16mm and Super 16mm film frames, M43 is 1.7 and 1.5 times bigger than those old formats. If this were 1960, 70 or 80 we'd all be shooting on 16mm or Super 16mm film because none of us could have afforded 35mm motion picture film stock. I prefer M43 because it's a lot like the old 16mm format, but much better because we have 50 to 70 percent more sensor to play with than what they did. We can shallow out the depth of field more, but not have to fight the depth of field like our photographic brethren. What I want are true M43 cinema cameras. Blackmagic leads on that front. I want a M43 version of the EVA-1, C100, FS5 and the URSA Mini Pro. So far I'm working with a GH4 and plan on buying an Atomos recorder for it. The projects I do are far better on 16mm anyway, so why the need for 35 still picture film frame? I suspect it's because many photographers are now required to do video, and they have never used a smaller format than 35mm photographic film stock or APC-C. I find that true videographers and motion picture people are more adaptive to the format. It's only photographers that worry about what a lens will look like on a different camera, when the only thing that matters is what it looks like on the camera they're using.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Black Warrior Lures Wow, great info! I didn't actually know that about 16mm film. Super interesting!
@TonyMacina
@TonyMacina 5 лет назад
Have you looked at the spec for the new Blackmagic Pocket 4k? I'm tempted to get that. I was looking at the GH5s, but frankly for half the price, with recording straight to SSD for better workflow and free Resolve, I'm thinkcing of picking up the Blackmagic and then a normal GH5 or a G9 for vlogging, photography and run and gun. Two cameras for the price of one, essentially.
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
Yup! Yup! The P4k is most impressive. A true cimena camera for $1,000. I'd love to keep my GH4 maybe add a P4k at some point. That would be a great combo.
@TonyMacina
@TonyMacina 5 лет назад
@@BlackWarriorLures I'm the same, looking at a hybrid camera like the G80 or Olympus E-M10 iii for day to day stuff and P4K for narrative. Tough call, Oly looks more stylish, has better stabilisation and colours, but no flippy screen!
@BlackWarriorLures
@BlackWarriorLures 5 лет назад
Oh, didn't realize Olympus lacked the flippie outie.
@JakeFrew
@JakeFrew 5 лет назад
Another video packed full of valuable and unique info! Dammit you're smart. I've been thinking a lot lately about the GH5S or A7iii so this was super helpful info! Thanks for sharing Tom 🙌.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Jake Frew Get the GH5s!!! I'm planning on selling my Sony gear and getting both the GH5 and 5s. Can't wait 😍😍
@GallicGarlic
@GallicGarlic 5 лет назад
Yes but way too long .. be more straight to the point
@adamstreetboyzz
@adamstreetboyzz 5 лет назад
G5 is good but heard Af is pretty bad not sure if thats for stills or video
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
adamstreetboyzz Continuous AF is pretty bad on the GH5 but single point and for stills it's great
@tube4andy
@tube4andy 5 лет назад
I had the same question... Ended up going with the gh5s and I'm really happy with it
@lfjvs
@lfjvs 5 лет назад
Really enjoyed the video. I really liked the analysis made and everything was clear and comprehensive. I would totally like to see another video. Really interesting.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Thanks man! More videos soon!
@JeffreyMcPheeters
@JeffreyMcPheeters 5 лет назад
This was extremely well presented. I didn’t have this to refer to when my nephew in Oahu contacted me for getting set up to shoot video for their surfing activities and travel/surfing. I shoot Olympus but have experience with Sony and Canon and Nikon FF gear as well. I recommended the Panasonic GH5 based on what I felt would give him the best bang for buck, good access to RU-vid how-to videos, and as you note, the best flexibility when it comes to expanding the system. Plus, adding an underwater housing to a FF Nikon is seriously bulky. Much more doable with the m43 bodies. Thanks for the work on this. It’s a good one to refer people to who are in the decision making stage.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Jeffrey McPheeters Thanks for the kind words!
@IAMDIMITRI
@IAMDIMITRI 5 лет назад
The biggest reason to shoot 4/3 is the cost. Other reasons are also related to cost!
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Nice! That's fair.
@MrBirosanyi89
@MrBirosanyi89 5 лет назад
This is true, until we consider the new olympus camera, which costs around 3000 euros.with that price range you can easily take a good FF through. But then again, not very good for video recording
@chevypowertogo-9070
@chevypowertogo-9070 5 лет назад
4/3rds?? I Think You Meant ""Micro 4/3rds"" Correct?? Or Just 4/3rds? There's a huge Difference
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
Vegeta Referee That’s just the body and it’s still cheaper than a Nikon D5 or Canon 1Dx. A 300mm f:4 is about a quarter the cost of a 600mm full frame equivalent and a third of the weight.
@s70cas7ic0
@s70cas7ic0 4 года назад
@@chevypowertogo-9070 4/3 and m4/3 have the same size sensor.
@ChrisWilliams-nf8kl
@ChrisWilliams-nf8kl 5 лет назад
You say you can't emulate the MfT look on larger sensor cameras. Ever thought about setting your lenses two stops slower? Because your point that you can do the same thing the other way, while true to some degree comes over as slightly disingenuous. You're upping the f stop using a speed booster, adding weight [ultra fast zoom lenses are always going to be heavy] and narrowing that depth of field you claim is such a burden. You can't have it both ways. You're right about processing and features on the higher end Panasonics at their price point, but the native lenses are VERY expensive for what you get and becoming increasingly more so. In fact the cost and options of using adapted lenses and a speedbooster do throw that into sharp relief - I expect the forthcoming 10-25 f1.7 to be staggeringly expensive and in terms of light gathering DoF control, it will still only be equivalent to what you can achieve with a 20-50 optic at f3.3! On a 35mm sensor that is. Before I get accused of being a [whatever brand/format] 'fanboy', bear in mind I'm shooting MfT [and have been for a few years]. I've actually got a Sigma 18-35 f1.8 on order after testing some of my Canon lenses with a speedbooster. In fact it was this revelation that convinced me to stick with the format because to some degree I can get the best of both worlds - a portable rig in less demanding situations and one which will suck in a lot of light for low light/ shallower DoF applications - so long as I'm prepared to accept the compromises. If I could afford it I would have two [or more!] systems - each has its strengths and its weaknesses. It's always best to know - and to acknowledge what these are. Otherwise you're either kidding yourself at best - or trying to pull the wool over others' eyes.
@FlorianLand
@FlorianLand 5 лет назад
Haha that intro got my cracking in laughter! So many good points you're making in this video. Just switched over to micro four thirds for pretty much exactly all those reason you mentioned.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Florian Land Thanks for the kind words aha. Had a lot of fun making this one. Good choice to switch, hope it goes well for u!
@HelpUsSaveLives
@HelpUsSaveLives 4 года назад
Great video, I just bought the MFT camera format and chose that OVER Super 35 for many reasons you mentioned here. I also can access some of the 16mm lenses that will cover MFT.
@DJLsbVapes
@DJLsbVapes 5 лет назад
I think the same about micro four thirds but till somebody offers a decent AF on a Micro four thirds I ain’t wasting my money again, the GH5 is my biggest regret from the cameras I own
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
That's fair. To each his own honestly. If you're shooting tons of vlogs and self produced content, then by all means buy a camera with great AF (I know I would!) But for me, I do sit down talking head videos, with B-Roll that I can control, weddings, commercial work, etc. I don't NEED AF (it would be nice, especially the other day when i shot my first video with the GH5 and it was out of focus ;) ) but it's not necessary for me.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
DJLsb Vapes I shoot motorsports and I get a better hit rate with M43 than I ever did with a DSLR.
@nimkal
@nimkal 3 года назад
What do you mean? The E-M5 Mark II has awesome AF and Image stabilization within the camera itself and that's a micro four thirds from 2015.
@mikepawlikguitar
@mikepawlikguitar 3 года назад
@@WhatAboutTom shooting wedding videos in manual focus mode is like using an old Nikon F4 in an age where Sony A1 exists, just for shits. Is it possible? Yeah sure, but I think it's pretty damn stupid and you run the risk of ruining somebody's videos and day. Why not just purchase a proper Canon or Sony mirrorless camera with excellent dual pixel autofocus and real time eye tracking AF? I don't care if you're freaking James Cameron, no amount of focus pulling skills will match the quality of modern AF systems.
@LarsLarsen77
@LarsLarsen77 3 года назад
The olympus has phase detection AF.
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 4 года назад
I got rid of all my full frame gear years ago and moved to Micro 4/3 systems. And I never looked back. Great video, thanks for sharing.
@Lepewhi
@Lepewhi 3 года назад
Out of curiousity, why did you go from FF to M4/3? I was considering going the other way.
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 3 года назад
@@Lepewhi Size and weight. I’m getting older, but still like to travel, and I wanted more compact gear for the road.
@Lepewhi
@Lepewhi 3 года назад
@@RonaldBrown59 I see. I'm getting older too. So maybe I'll stay put. Plus FF lenses are a bit expensive.
@letsracewithrccar
@letsracewithrccar 5 лет назад
New sub here! Great explanation! Iam a g7 (sold it), g85(handed it down to my younger sister), gh5 and g9(currently) and i can tell all the doubtsters out there that m43 system is awesome! Untill recently theres only one camera that could offers so much video features in a smal body like gh5, under 2g which is the xt3. But the lack of ibis of the xt3 makes the gh5 still untill today the best bang for your bucks filming camera period! Using a manual speedbooster and some fast nikon lenses like the 50mm f1.4 youd be surprised with the result! Before MFT I used canon 70d, then nikon d5600, then sony a6300.
@lorencing
@lorencing 5 лет назад
Thank you for a nice video with practical tips :) ... and here I have a practical question ... which one do I choose: a D750+AF-S 24-120 F4/VR or a D7500+18-140 VR or a D7200+18-140 VR or even a Canon EOS 80D+18-135 IS NANO USM?? I will be using this camera for work related events (fairs, events, shooting autoservicing machines, tools, people, ...) which will be happening indoors with week lighting as well as outdoors and must be good in all weather conditions. Primarily I focus on price-performance, all-round use and build quality and image quality. But I want to be "conservative", and rather buy a good body with "excellent" lenses than vice versa ... so how do I decide wich is good enough that it will not matter if I shoot with a better camera? Where is the line that says that is good enough for the job? Should I also be looking at the top "copmact" cameras as Sony DSC-RX10M4 or Nikon Coolpix1000? And there is also the price of lenses ;) So, to recapitulate, if I am not a pro and won't do majestic architecture and vehicle shoots or amazing art portrets of famous people, with medium frame or pro full frame cameras ... when can I say: "Ok, that is just right for me?" ... ... ... and I am an intermediate level user ... for now. Thanks for any advice or tips.
@ColoCulture
@ColoCulture 5 лет назад
I feel good about buying my G85 now
@tabishrazakhan5082
@tabishrazakhan5082 3 года назад
How's your G85 !? Is it still worth buying for semi-professional works !?
@xveganx
@xveganx 5 лет назад
11:02 a fly is landing on the shotgun microphone
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@David-cz7mm
@David-cz7mm 5 лет назад
Hey Tom, maybe you can help me out here. I own a Sony a6000 APS-C camera with two lenses and think about buying me a BMPCC4K. I asked the guys from Blackmagic if I could use my lenses on their camera and they said NO! So now I’m a little confused because you said, that they can be used! Did I get something wrong here. I would appreciate your help! Thanks a lot :)
@gamepat9
@gamepat9 2 года назад
Great explanation! I wish I saw this video earlier. I've been using my new S5 for a couple of months now and I'm running into the exact problem that you are mentioning. In the real world, shallow depth of field is actually bad. I mainly film music videos and realized that DoF-wise, F5 or so is the best to keep a group of performers in front of me in focus, but exposure wise it gets pretty rough with full frame, you'd need to crank the iso quite a bit. This means aps-c or even mft would actually give me much better low light performance, than full frame
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 5 лет назад
Bear in mind that crop factor applies to the f-stop number as well. The depth of field of an m43 sensor with a 25mm f1.4 lens is identical to a full frame sensor, 50mm, at f2.8. In fact, the aperture is identical in both cases: 25mm/1.4 = ~18mm, 50mm/2.8 = ~18mm. You're getting the same amount of light into the camera. So, if you can live with f2.8 on m43, you'd see roughly the same low-light performance at f5.6 with a full frame sensor, assuming identical pixel pitch, which is the real catch. The GH5s has larger pixels than the GH5, and each ones gathers more light, reducing noise. The beauty of a full frame sensor is that the optics become way simpler for wide-angle lenses, and you can still achieve a higher pixel count with larger pixels. But this matters a lot more for stills photography than video. Also, sensor readout speed is related to the number of pixels, not the size of the sensor. A 20MP m43 sensor takes the same amount of time to read as a 20MP full frame sensor, assuming equivalent technology. Another reason the GH5s rocks - at 10MP, it reads so fast you have almost no rolling shutter. However, you could achieve the same effect cropping a full sensor in half and reducing your focal length to match. Having said all that ... I currently only have a g85. :) I'd have bought the GH5s for stills photography if it had IBIS! I bet it would be breathtakingly good for astrophotography..
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Gordon Lamb Good info! Thanks for sharing
@LegendaryGauntlet
@LegendaryGauntlet 5 лет назад
Equivalence is flawed as for getting the same exposure on that hypothetical FF you would need to use quadruple ISO value. And then get the same picture. What's the point ? We can compute hypothetical equivalence with medium format, too. Which is equally pointless... Oh and for wide angle lenses, short flange distance means simpler lenses. M4/3 offers quite interesting and cheap (in comparison) lenses, like the Panasonic 7-14mm or that Laowa 7.5mm f/2. The Olympus 7-14mm is a really nice lens too (bit more expensive, but constant f/2.8 is nice).
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 5 лет назад
I actually have the Panasonic 7-14mm lens and it's freakin' brilliant. I do wish it was faster, though.
@FrayAdjacentTX
@FrayAdjacentTX 5 лет назад
Depth of field is a function of the focal length. A 50mm f/1.8 lens on a FF and on a Micro 4:3 would get the same depth of field. It's the field of view that is different due to the sensor size. Using a 25mm lens on the Micro 4:3 would give an equivalent field of view, but depth of field changes due to the focal length change.
@GordLamb
@GordLamb 5 лет назад
Right .. well, focal length and aperture size. Sensor size totally irrelevant.
@alfviktor.101
@alfviktor.101 5 лет назад
Damn. How are you only on 535 subscribers?!
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Alf Williamsen I could ask the opposite. How the hell did I reach 535 subscribers??? Super pumped!
@syrompicturez263
@syrompicturez263 5 лет назад
When you do the right thing not many will recognise you!
@darrendavenport3334
@darrendavenport3334 5 лет назад
Watch the video and you'll see why....
@kingdomcreatives
@kingdomcreatives 5 лет назад
great job man! loved it!
@michaelbell75
@michaelbell75 5 лет назад
The GH5 is an incredible camera and a steal on the holiday deal for $1497 right now. The GX9 and the GX85 are also great cameras that can be had cheap right now too.
@sunbro1720
@sunbro1720 5 лет назад
Your price comparison and lens availability are great arguments. But (here comes the but...) Having a deeper depth of filed in full frame is just lowering your aperture. You'll have to increase your ISO, but the format has sensors with a greater noise to signal ratio. With the same depth of field, you should be able to get equivalent images (with the same amount of noise) in the higher ISO need for the correct exposure. You don't need to crop for that. Micro 4/3 sensors don't have a lower processing power. A processor works with data size, which is image size times bit depth (how many bits per pixel). On an equivalent data size (same resolution, same pixel depth), the processing power needed should be the same. If in the bigger sensor size body, components have the worst energetic efficiency, your claims of overheating should hold, but not for the reasons you're thinking of. Full frame lenses are bigger because the most desired ones generally gather more light. A micro 4/3 lens that would make pictures with the same amount of noise as a full frame equivalent would be (if constructed the same way) as big as a full frame lens. You can't cheat physics, less noise = more photons (is what a speed booster do, actually, they gather more light for you to be able to get an equivalent noise performance and equivalent blurry background... just with an extra optical element - that should decrease light transmission and sharpness by a little bit). Your content seems great and you seem to be wanting to help people, but perhaps you should also research more before making a video! o/ Cheers, buddy!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
SunBro Why? How many people really care about that level of technical detail? I was a working professional for many years (photojournalist) and in the end, the only things I cared about were size, weight and cost. If I were still doing that work, I would undoubtedly go for M43. The presumed advantages of full frame are not enough to justify the disadvantages. In fact, the advantages most people quote are of minimal importance. For my kind of work it’s a no brainer.
@AaronSmith-sx4ez
@AaronSmith-sx4ez 5 лет назад
In theory I believe FF can emulate M43...by cropping in post production or by setting the image area. But this is often not practical. FF matching M43 by zooming in which will introduce background compression and shallower depth of fields. For those of us who want a deep sharp picture, M43 is still a much more practical option and noise won't be an issue with most lighting conditions. Yes, the # of pixels matters more than the sensor size, but the reality is most FF cameras will have more pixels than a M43, and therefore will be more taxed (heat, electricity, computational power) for processing.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
hey sunbro, sorry for taking 8 months to reply to you. You're right, you COULD just increase your ISO, but you're speaking as though all cameras are made equally. The Nikon D850, for example, is known to have horrible low light capabilities because of it's extremely high MP count. Without having to take low light ISO capabilities into consideration, going with MFT is much easier. The D850 might be usable at ISO 4000, but stopping down by 2x to match the DOF of MFT requires you to 2x your ISO as well. Now you're sitting at 8000. That's a big difference sometimes, and maybe the D850 can't handle that. Plus, maybe you're trying your best to shoot at a Native ISO so you get the best color, dynamic range, and noise performance, but you want to stop down in order to have a wider focus plane. Now you're creating a worse image just because you need LESS DOF. The thing I love about MFT is the flexibility. I own a number of MFT lenses, so technically when i'm shooting at f2.8, i'm getting the same DOF as if i were shooting at f5.6. But on the flip side, I own a Metabones speedbooster that can do a 0.64x crop, and make all the Full Frame glass I have replicate a true 2.8 (and even further if I want, technically. With a 0.64x speedbooster, you're technically get 1 1/3 stops extra, not just 1 stop extra. So my 24-70 2.8 from Tamron can go all the way down a true 1.8!) Sure, in theory you can stop down and make sure you have a wide focus plane, but that causes a lot more issues than just shooting MFT and having the flexibility to shoot whichever way you want and retain the same amount of detail.
@JStieloSoloPhysique1987
@JStieloSoloPhysique1987 5 лет назад
lmao that comment you typed.. SO ACCURATE of how ppl be in the comment section
@bluenoteorgantrio4207
@bluenoteorgantrio4207 5 лет назад
Hi Tom, can you elaborate on your point that "you can use any FF lens with a micro 4/3 camera"? I have both a Sony A7ii and a Panasonic GX8. I would like to use my Sony-E-mount lenses with my Panasonic GX8, however as far as I know no Sony-E-to-m43 adapter exists. Why is that?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
I believe the reason that doesn't exist is because of the flange distance. The flange distance on Sony cameras is about 18mm, whereas on MFT it's 19.5mm. In order to adapt a lens to your camera, the lens has to be made for a camera that has a larger flange distance than the one you're trying to adapt to.
@protestantsfailurend7890
@protestantsfailurend7890 5 лет назад
gh5 or g9 for filmmaking and photography; which is best? I already have a G7. What am I missing in not having one of those two for filmmaking primarily
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
For filmmaking primarily, the GH5 no question. But for photography, the G9 will be a better option.
@Arcsecant
@Arcsecant 5 лет назад
Split the difference and go APS-C!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
I did that for years but you end up with a camera that's the same size and weight as a full frame dSLR with none of the advantages. Don't get me wrong. I liked my cameras but M43 is a better choice.
@lordmashie
@lordmashie 5 лет назад
@@thethirdman225 There's the Sony A6X00 series cameras, only real disadvantage is they're pretty pricey (maybe except the A6000). There's more options with micro 4/3.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
@@lordmashie I have to admit, much as the A6000 looked good on paper, I never really liked it from an operational point of view. A mate of mine ha one but it suits him better than me. It's a personal thing but the E-M1's superb (IMHO) ergonomics got it over the line against the others.
@stevestruthers6180
@stevestruthers6180 5 лет назад
@@thethirdman225 I had a Sony a6000 and really liked it, but was tired of a lack of affordable lenses to go with it. To give you an example of what I mean, a Sony E-mount 10-18mm costs $1000 in Canadian dollars. By comparison, Canon's 11-22 costs $429CDN, and is just as sharp. So I sold my Sony a6000 and got a Canon EOS M6 instead.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
Steve Struthers I’m not familiar with the M6 but I did have the EF-S 10-22. I know what you mean about prices though. Sony seem to have decided to charge extortionate amounts of money for all except a few of their lenses. Unfortunately, a rising tide lifts all ships and that’s where it’s gone. Even manufacturers like Sigma are now very expensive.
@nickgrace4699
@nickgrace4699 5 лет назад
The speed booster will make at apsc not full frame
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
A 0.64x speed booster on the GH5s is literally a 1.1x crop, which is closer to full frame than APS-C
@nickgrace4699
@nickgrace4699 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan The new Speed Booster XL 0.64x reduces the full-frame crop factor of the Panasonic GH4 from 2.0x to 1.28x, thus effectively transforming these cameras into APS-H format. When the GH4 is used in Cinema 4k video mode the horizontal full frame crop factor is reduced from 2.34x to 1.50x, thus effectively transforming the GH4 into a super-35 format 4k cine camera. (From there website)
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@nickgrace4699 Yes, and if u noticed, I never mentioned the GH4 at all in any part of the video or my comment. All cameras have different styles of cropping. Some shoot more cropped than others regardless of their sensor size. Notice how it says "the GH4 will shoot at 2.34x crop in C4K." The GH5 and GH5s don't do that, they use the full sensor. The GH5s has a bigger sensor than the GH5, and will crop at around 1.8x. this means if u add a speed booster of 0.64x, the crop factor will be 1.1x. please read my comments in full in order to fully understand.
@nickgrace4699
@nickgrace4699 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan The GH5 has a 2x crop in 4K video mode, so there has been a lot of speculation about whether the Speedbooster XL can be used to give the image the appearance of an approx. 1.3x crop factor camera (similar to the Canon EOS 1D C). (Also not trying to bash on you, I Do like the video)
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@nickgrace4699 Ahaha dude u gotta read what I say. The GH5S NOT the GH5. I've said it a few times now, you gotta read. The GH5s has a 1.8x crop. GH5S. S. Not the regular GH5. If you shoot in C4K at 4096x2160, it's a 1.8x crop, which, when speed boosted by 0.64x, becomes a 1.1x crop.
@brin6494
@brin6494 5 лет назад
Amazing video! You deserve more subscribers.
@MaxMiesen
@MaxMiesen 5 лет назад
I am an amateur film-maker creating anything from short films with actors as well as documentaries. I was wondering if the Sony a7S II or GH5 would be better for my needs...
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
If you have no reason for autofocus, or it's not a big part of your productions, then the GH5 is the way to go.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
Max Miesen It will come down to how you light and compose.
@theosphilusthistler712
@theosphilusthistler712 5 лет назад
Agreed. The current mad scramble to full frame is driven by manufacturers not consumers. They're scared of phones and want to get as far from that as possible. Before long the herd will realise they're up for $10,000 and 10kg to shoot what they could have shot on crop sensor for $3000 and 3kg (but with marginally better image quality under very specific unlikely circumstances). Btw you can emulate M43 on FF. It's called a 2x teleconverter. I do think though that Canon APS-C at 1.6 crop is the ideal sensor size, and Canon EF-M has by far the best range of lenses that function as if native. When Canon produce an EF-M body as good as the Olympus OM-E-WTF that will be just about the perfect camera.
@jacobgaysawyer337
@jacobgaysawyer337 5 лет назад
Give people like me the credit for having the knowledge to buy what they absolutely know FITS THEIR USAGE. Your toy of a camera can't match my D850 + 500mm F5.6 PF. Now don't give me the argument of "300mm f4 on m43 is equal to 600mm" because it doesn't lol. also that lens is HEAVIER and MORE EXPENSIVE than Nikon's 300mm f4, lmao. anyway, m4/3 is for people that want small bodies, big lenses, and to feel better about themselves for being special for not buying what makes more sense to actually buy lol.
@kay5356
@kay5356 5 лет назад
Are you 12 years old? Your FX is also a "toy of a camera" if you talk to a medium-format fashion photographer. There are always bigger fish in the sea, remember that.
@jacobgaysawyer337
@jacobgaysawyer337 5 лет назад
@@kay5356 bigger? bigger? lol.. medium format is useless for most uses. completely uselss. people buy medium format for portraits and fashion, or because they are rich and want to brag. idiot. you completely ignored everything I said and commented only about 1 really superficial thing, you're clearly a fucking idiot.
@kay5356
@kay5356 5 лет назад
It's the small things that tell a lot about a person. And your childish name-calling pretty much confirms your level of qualification. Regarding your statement that "medium-format is useless for most uses" (?), they can be used to great effect for portraits, fashion, product, landscape photography, which make up a huge number of uses. You seem to have taken my comment at surface level too -- belittling others for their gear is a lost battle from the start. Try to be a better person.
@jacobgaysawyer337
@jacobgaysawyer337 5 лет назад
you must know me in real life. you're probably one of those fatty McChubbies @@kay5356
@rvkvikas
@rvkvikas 5 лет назад
Good video. Subbed.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Hey thanks!
@Praet0ri4n
@Praet0ri4n 4 года назад
How much blur background do We actually need? That is good question !
@wefrjkgrjghjk
@wefrjkgrjghjk 5 лет назад
Depth of field depends on the lens as well, and perspective, composition, light, and other things, i have a nikon d810 and a lumix gx85 and i use both, both are great at what they do i guess you just have to work arround the cameras you have to get what you want...one way is to get the two systems
@Ferda1964
@Ferda1964 5 лет назад
I am just tired of hauling around heavy gear when the image quality taken with my Olympus OM 5 is top notch . I see many people are still buying the huge Canons and Nikons and it is so old fashioned. They just believe bigger and heavier body will always reward them with a superior image and they are so wrong. And yes , most of the DSLR owners do not realize how important is to invest in proper lens.
@PixartComAu
@PixartComAu 5 лет назад
Thanks for the insult at the end. I am a photographer and I would not even look at FF cameras. FF digital is nothing like the FF film: cameras are bigger, and lenses are - huge. M4/3 offers enough quality, power and so much less weight and is the new golden standard for all imaging works, thanks.
@TheSackless
@TheSackless 5 лет назад
But for landscape photographers who print large images and need the higher dynamic range, FF is where it's at, or medium format of you're that way inclined. At the end of the day it's what gets the job done for you.
@mikal
@mikal 5 лет назад
RE: "enough quality" - The viewer of the image isn't going to say "That photo is good enough quality for the sensor size, smaller body size and weight."
@darrendavenport3334
@darrendavenport3334 5 лет назад
@@mikal thats complete bullshit and that myth has been busted.... look up The School of Photography video where he puts a FF canon against an Olympus, does shots with each and prints them at 3ft.... even the professional lab printer couldnt tell which shots came from which camera.... Also, the client is only interested in the end result, not how you got there... no matter what gear you use it will not save your pathetic photography skills.... only noobs argue about which camera is "better"
@johnirby493
@johnirby493 5 лет назад
Using your exact logic, the 1" sensor in my RX100 must be twice as good as any 4:3.
@jacobgaysawyer337
@jacobgaysawyer337 5 лет назад
oh really? i wonder how can the 300mm f4 olympus MICRO FOUR THIRDS LENS IS HEAVIER THAN THE NIKKOR 300MM PF.. I JUST WONDER.. the lenses are the same size, bodies are smaller. a 24mm f1.4 is a 24mm f1.4. you cant argue about that fact.
@Savagetechdude
@Savagetechdude 5 лет назад
So one advantage FF has over a smaller sensor is the low light performance. How does that compare to stopping your lens down? Is it really better to just have a smaller sensor? That MFT to FF comparison was cropped a lot less than I figured it would be. isn't that supposed to be a 2 times crop? Why the gh5s, and not the new Blackmagic camera? That seems like a much better deal. Personally, I'm just now really getting into video and am coming from photography. I'm thinking about getting the new Fuji X-T3. It seems like it's right there in the middle.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Altered Exposure Image Design Altered Exposure Image Design ISO is much more than just noise levels, so in reality, no, u can't just stop down and get the same performance. You also have to factor in native ISO which can also affect dynamic range, and color performance. The MFT to full frame comparison was not for focal length, but for difference in depth of field. And yes, in theory the BMPCC4K is a better camera, but it requires a ton more memory, and produces MASSIVE file sizes because of the fact that it shoots in ProRes. I haven't done any research on the XT3, but I suggest you do because it seems like a great camera!
@theoldlegion
@theoldlegion 5 лет назад
Awesome video Tom thank you!
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 5 лет назад
Thinking that a smaller sensor can give you a deeper depth of field with the same light gathering is incorrect. If you just shoot a full frame at 2x the aperture and 4x the ISO, you will have identical depth of field and noise as M4/3. 25mm f/2.8 ISO 200 on M4/3 will look identical to 50mm f/5.6 ISO 800. The disadvantage of M4/3 being that you don't have the option to go wider and let more light in, you can't escape physics, there's no such thing as a tiny lens that lets tons of light in. You mention in the video that you can get 'tiny' f/1.7 lenses, insinuating that it's letting lots of light in, it isn't. it's letting in exactly the same total light as a FF lens at f/3.4, so not very wide. The advantages of M4/3 are size, and processing, it's less CPU intensive to film on a smaller sensor so you can get 4K60 etc much easier than FF. But the whole DoF thing is a fallacy.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Christopher O'Grady I mean, this isn't true, but I already explained why so I'm not sure how else to say it aha
@LegendaryGauntlet
@LegendaryGauntlet 5 лет назад
Lens aperture is a pure optical property, that is not linked to any sensor size. You can project the image on a photographic paper for that matter. As a counterpoint, i can use a FF lens adapted on a Panasonic camera. If it's a f/2 lens it doesnt become f/4 all of sudden and exposure still works the same. People mix up signal-to-noise ratio with exposure (there are different..). SNR is also affected by the technology of the sensor, modern sensors are better than older ones. The point can be made that even tiny phone sensors are becoming quite impressive (their lenses not so much though).
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Guillaume M Thank you, I didn't feel like explaining it for 9th time lmao
@DaveHaynie
@DaveHaynie 5 лет назад
If the question is only about light, the FF has a two-stop advantage over the m43. That's it, when dealing with the whole sensor in generic terms (before looking at, say, pixel size or sensor technology). Anything else is going to depend on the lens used.
@LegendaryGauntlet
@LegendaryGauntlet 5 лет назад
This "two stop advantage" is in SNR only, and at similar technological levels (and there are some variations around it). M4/3 today is as good as previous FF generations..
@Stefan1968ful
@Stefan1968ful 5 лет назад
I dropped M43 quickly after some testing. I am deeply into Wildlife, especially birds. And M43 is simply not capable enough here for me. The Autofocus performance sucks compared to something like a Canon 1DX Mark II or Nikon D5. And worse, the low light performance and high ISO performance is simply a disaster. And birding you do especially early in the morning or early in the evening. So no way for M43.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Stefan1968ful I totally hear you, that's why I said it might be best to stick with full frame for photography. But for video, I can't see any reason why an MFT camera isn't just as capable as a full frame camera.
@Stefan1968ful
@Stefan1968ful 5 лет назад
Ah, don't get me wrong. I was interested into an Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II. Together with an Olympus 300mm f/4. As a tool for Wildlife on travels (the crop factor of 2.0 is cool). But...as I said, the Autofocus could not match my expectations, especially on Continuous Tracking. I don't care much about sensor size as I am also using with the Nikon D500 an APS-C sensor for Wildlife. But true is that in low light situation a Fullframe sensor has an advantage, I also cannot ignore this. At daylight it does not matter that much in my opinion.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Stefan1968ful fair points!
@Stefan1968ful
@Stefan1968ful 5 лет назад
Just hope that Panasonic & Co don't give up M43, it is better than many people think. Especially due to the crop factor of 2.0 you can build up relatively small lenses, way smaller than for Fullframe. And that is in my opinion the real advantage of M43.
@alexanderhetzel8271
@alexanderhetzel8271 5 лет назад
Doesn't the crop factor really help with focal length though? I can't imagine, handholding a full frame 600mm lens vs a 300mm M43 plus IBIS.
@CH4RL0T
@CH4RL0T 4 года назад
So, would you buy a GH5 if it was a FF sensor ? Same question for a micro 4/3 A7 With the price adjusted accordingly.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
I'd probably buy the GH5 if it was APS-C, but not full frame.
@AdilAlsuhaim
@AdilAlsuhaim 5 лет назад
Having "deeper" depth of field is rarely appreciated by many. When I started shooting FF I realized how that APS-C cameras were so forgiving :) I considered G7 & G85, but went with Canon M50. My reasons were that I am a beginner in video-making, I have Canon EF lenses, and I wanted ultra-wide AF on the very cheap & light, until I get more experience with video then maybe consider something better. The G85 has 1080p/120fps, which even the EOS R doesn't do.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Yea, the craze is for super shallow depth of field now. I appreciate both!
@jasone2240
@jasone2240 5 лет назад
There are some real advantages m4/3 but the idea it can replicate a FF is nonsense. And the top of the range Panasonics are bigger than my a7iii, almost as expensive and have worse af.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Jason E If I said replicate full frame then I apologize. What I meant is that you can replicate Full Frame depth of field by using a speedbooster, and it also gives you an extra 1.5 stops of light, so it will also help you achieve a similar low light performance.
@michaelbell75
@michaelbell75 5 лет назад
The a7iii is a great camera but the GH5 beats it in several areas. The GH5 has a larger and higher resolution LCD, way higher resolution and better quality EVF, shoots 12FPS to the a7iii's 10FPS, higher resolution video, does 4K 60p, has a flash sync port, it does 4k and 6k photo mode and its less expensive. Lenses are also much cheaper than E mount lenses. I'll take the GH5 all day.
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon 5 лет назад
@@WhatAboutTom Shallow depth of field is usually a bad thing in video, and it's a way overused artistic mechanism ever since the DSLR filmmaking revolution hit. Backgrounds are super important and so many people just don't respect that.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@JodyBruchon It all depends, but yes, it can be a bad thing no doubt.
@nickgranville1875
@nickgranville1875 5 лет назад
@@michaelbell75 I have a GH5 and an A7iii and the sony beats the GH5 in almost every area. Way better dynamic range, better low light performance, way way better autofocus, the footage is just as crisp etc. The GH5 does have better IBIS, and a better screen, and 10 bit but none of these things outweigh the dynamic range and low light performance when these things are needed. 10 bit is overrated for many people - they can't see or benefit from the difference. cameras are just tools man, use whatever gets the job done for you.
@MikeHunt-qu6ef
@MikeHunt-qu6ef 5 лет назад
Shallow depth of field isn’t based on the sensor it’s the F stop fool smh
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Hey brother, love the name (I get it, but it's not 2008 😄) So, while you're correct in that the F-stop will determine the depth of field you get, it's also determine by what sensor you use. Think of it this way: when you shoot at 35mm at F4 on a Full Frame camera, but then you crop in 100% in post, you aren't then seeing 70mm at F4, you're basically seeing 70mm at F8. The depth of field isn't changing, just the field of view (which is now equivalent to 70mm with a 2x crop.) So, Micro Four Thirds sensors have a 2x crop (in comparison to 35mm cameras, which is the standard when talking about crop factors.) So any lens you put on it, you have to multiply the focal length by 2, and therefore also multiplying the F-stop by 2 (in relation to depth of field, not light being let in to hit the sensor.) So if you shoot at 50mm on a full frame camera at F1.4, and shoot on a micro four thirds camera at 25mm (equivalent to 50mm) at F1.4, the field of view will be the exact same, but the Full Frame camera's background will be significantly more blurry than the Micro Four Thirds camera. Hope this explains it!
@MikeHunt-qu6ef
@MikeHunt-qu6ef 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan you have to understand anyone that takes in consideration into getting a cropped sensor will have enough sense to get a lens to make up for the crop. You have to know in order to get says 28mm equivalent Lens on a cropped sensor you know you’ll have to get a 14 or 15mm Lens to get in the same ball park. I understand what your saying, but when I use say my AF100 I’m not gonna be using the same Lens I have on my Sony FS700 or even my D850. Going into that you make up for those allowances, but your talking about apples and oranges, to prove a point that as a statement isn’t true, sensor size doesn’t dictate the depth of field, I can get the same exact picture on each sensor sharpness will change depending on the lens. I love the micro thirds look tho.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Yes, I know this, that's why I said you would use a 25mm lens (usually uncommon for Full Frame) to get the equivalent of a 50mm. However, like I said, this isn't a true 50mm. It's literally a 25mm lens optically, but it's made for a camera that will have a 2x crop, and therefore made for a specific purpose (this is why lenses like a 17.5mm exist.) So you're still cropping, and still have to take into account the loss of depth of field from crop factor. Any time you crop a lens's true focal length, you're also cropping its aperture in relation to the depth of field. So, although you can purposely buy a 25mm lens in order to get the field of view of a 50mm, your f-stop is not going to be the same as if you were shooting on a native 50mm. If you shoot at 25mm at f1.4, you're essentially shooting at the equivalent of 50mm at 2.8, not 50mm at 1.4. Field of view absolutely has an impact on depth of field, because you have to take into account the amount of the image circle you're actually showing, and the distance from the camera that your subject is.
@MikeHunt-qu6ef
@MikeHunt-qu6ef 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan sounds like your complete on thinking your opinion is an actually fact when it isn’t. Your argument is that if I have a lens that compromises the focal distance your saying I can’t get an f stop to match the original full frame lens which is false. Listen justify anything u need for your purchase, the fact is your wrong about what you said. This isn’t personal this is the comment section, I know people in general don’t like being wrong, but it’s the only way to learn and grow. The fact that your explaining trying to justify your point to a stranger on your RU-vid channel is funny. Every camera has its use, sometime crops work in your favor, it does for your wedding shoots like you said, but the sensor doesn’t dictate a shallow depth of field, again the f stop does.
@MikeHunt-qu6ef
@MikeHunt-qu6ef 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan and please don’t take offense from me calling you fool I don’t literally mean your a fool, it’s like when your tell ur friends “man ur crazy bro” I didn’t mean to offend if I did.
@WildlifeMoto
@WildlifeMoto 5 лет назад
The main reason for FF is better noise control and low light handling. The problem (to date) has been the compromises that one would have to make in an FF camera. This usually meant compressed codecs, record limits and lack of high-speed frame rates (like 4k 60). We have crossed that bridge now with cameras like the S1. It's not perfect yet but it's certainly getting interesting now.
@adokapo
@adokapo 5 лет назад
BMPCC Original is not MFT it is S16 somewhere in between MFT and 1Inch.
@bodinian
@bodinian 2 года назад
My feedback: I use an APS-C camera and love to test things. While I like the full frame ISO performance, I prefer to have more of my picture in focus at wide apertures vs having narrow depth of field making my pictures vulnerable to missing focus. Since overall exposure is the same for different sensor sizes at the same aperture for the same lens I prefer being able to operate wide open on the smaller sensor camera body. Micro 4/3rds has a place with that in mind, but the fact that the GH6 comes with IBIS and weather sealing while my M50 Mark II doesn't, and the fact that I'd need to spend so much to get a Canon mirrorless camera body that has those things, makes me respect the decision to use MFT instead of the larger sensor camera bodies.
@nicktaylor7680
@nicktaylor7680 5 лет назад
I just made the switch from FF to M43 and am finding it makes sense in so many ways. You have the obvious smaller,lighter, cheaper that I find lets me get more shots because the best camera is the camera you have with you and I carry my GX85 wherever I go.It also helps 'stay under the radar' and be less intimidating in street photography and Less conspicuous when traveling. However it's the way that M43 is less about absolute resolution and pixel obsession and more about the art. Composition, framing, subject, and light come to the fore which I feel makes for better photography.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Totally feel you. I love MFT!
@mitchmedmedia5386
@mitchmedmedia5386 5 лет назад
That intro was great and the rest of the video was very informative. Not the usual m43 bs. Thanks for the quality info.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Mitch Med Media Thanks for the kind words!
@mercurygalaxii
@mercurygalaxii 4 года назад
I shoot landscape with G9, nothing to complaint about it, love its price/value for various lenses and light weight. recent update for 4:2:2 10 bit is a gift
@PedroE1112
@PedroE1112 5 лет назад
Hi Tom, I fully agree with your comments. I do both, photo + video and I used NIKON until almost 3 years ago that switched to Sony. All the time have been a Full Frame shooter and like you am considering buying a Micro 4/3 for my video work. I just preordered the BlackMagic pocket 4K and counting the days to receive it. What are your views on that newcomer camera for video?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Pedro E. PérezPHOTOGRAPHY I personally think the BMPCC 4K is going to be an amazing camera with HUGE capabilities. I love Blackmagic cameras, and they would probably be my cameras of choice if I didn't do weddings and didn't need good low light/in body stabilization.
@kennynvake4hve584
@kennynvake4hve584 4 года назад
Is there a way they could take a full frame camera and have something block out, or crop down to a 4/3's size. Would that do the same thing as a 4/3's camera? just a thought.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
There are full frame cameras that allow you to shoot in APS-C mode like the Sony A7R iii, but it has to be built into the software of the camera, and the camera has to have a big enough sensor to do that. If the camera is a 18 MP sensor and you crop in 2x, you won't be able to shoot 4k anymore because there just isn't enough pixels in that part of the sensor.
@kennynvake4hve584
@kennynvake4hve584 4 года назад
@@WhatAboutTom I see...
@KevinFremon
@KevinFremon 5 лет назад
Hey dude. Great breakdown on the benefits of the micro 4:3 system. I'm shooting full frame (Canon) right now and looking heavily at going m4:3 since I'm using a lot more for video. Anyways... you earned my sub. Keep up the great vids.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Hey, thanks Kevin! Hit me up if you need any help deciding!
@riosfamily
@riosfamily 5 лет назад
like number 40, new subscriber number 290 right here!!!! well deserved!!! where was this video last year when i needed it :( nicely explained Tom!!!!! sub :)
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Dope Sauce! Thanks for the sub and thanks for the kind words!
@TimothyGordon
@TimothyGordon 5 лет назад
So glad I found your channel Tom. I've subscribed and am really looking forward to learning from you. Please do a basic tutorial on how you get these great looks (contrasty and rich) with the GH5. I shoot a lot of video on the GH5 and GH5s but am not a video production professional, I'm learning as much as I can and would love to learn from you!
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Timothy Gordon Tim! I'm feeling super awesome after reading that aha. Love to hear stuff like this! I do currently have a tutorial on color grading which will teach you a bit of the basics of getting a pretty image, but maybe I'll do a video specifically on the GH5 in the future!
@TimothyGordon
@TimothyGordon 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan aww good! I actually watched that video and found it helpful. I’m on Final Cut Pro and am struggling mostly with that rich, textured look you get - if I shoot using the vivid profile on the GH5, I’m pretty happy but want to do more with my cinematic broll for meditation videos so I’ve been trying to shoot in vlog and it’s not going so hot! Haha
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Timothy Gordon I wouldn't recommend VLOG, it can be very hard to work with, and I've seen bad reviews on it such as green tints in the skintones. I wonder if the textured look you're talking about has less to do with color and more to do with light?
@MriWRZ
@MriWRZ 5 лет назад
I buy a Nikon D7200 for the middle way between FF and M4/3, and it also can cut the shooting area like M4/3.
@manelbrandaopereira9752
@manelbrandaopereira9752 5 лет назад
I agree with you! Micro 4/3 are perfect for video, but for photo I dont think that could replace full frame...
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 лет назад
Manuel Pereira Of course it can. Much better to be able to get a decent shot with an M43 that you can’t get with your technically superior full frame because of cost/size/weight.
@ekufilm
@ekufilm Год назад
Fantastic video!
@PeacefulMoments1844
@PeacefulMoments1844 5 лет назад
How about for still shots? Full frame, or M4/3?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
I personally prefer full frame but a lot of people say MFT works great as well.
@ookiemand
@ookiemand 5 лет назад
I think you'll love the GH5 IBIS too.I use a G85, and am looking forward to the expected 10-25mm F1.7 lens.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
I actually have the GH5 now, and yes, it's freaking amazing compared to what Sony offers.
@grafinxart
@grafinxart 3 года назад
Here from the future with the sony a7siii now out. What are your thoughts?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 3 года назад
I still think it's nice to have the flexibility of using a speed booster, or going with a crop depending on how much light you need. I think it's really annoying (and doesn't look very good at all) to shoot below f2.8 on a full frame camera, so having the ability to bring more light to the sensor without having a razor thin depth of field is still an advantage of micro four thirds. And if you're going to say to just "raise the ISO" remember that the more u raise the ISO, the more color shifting there will be which will muddy an already sub-par Sony color science. I think they've pretty much completely closed the gap in terms of processing power. Full frame cameras have finally caught up to what MFT cameras are capable of (at least in terms of what filmmakers ACTUALLY need. I'm sure they could make an MFT camera that shoots 10k but no one really needs 10k...) Glass size is still going to be an issue because it still has to cover a larger image circle, but companies like Tamron are doing a good job of combatting large lenses by striking off a few mm in focal length here and there (28-70 2.8 for example.) All in all, I think at this point the best option is going to be what works best for your budget. The A7S iii is still going to run $4000 for just a body, and Sony lenses are known to be really expensive. I think in about 5-10 years it probably won't matter what sized sensor you shoot on, but I still think MFT has enough advantages at this point that there are still reasons to choose it over full frame. Unfortunately there aren't any APS-C cameras in the same category as the GH5 or A7S III. Personally, if I had the choice, I'd choose something like that. A GH5 with an APS-C sensor and 4k 60fps 10-bit would probably be the perfect camera. I'd love to have an URSA Mini, but it's just way out of my price range and unjustifiable.
@GaborVincze
@GaborVincze 5 лет назад
Awesome video bro!! You really did a great job! I’ve been using my GH5 for like a year now and it’s absolutely crushing it!! But for photography there’s a lot of cons. I’m definitely recommend you using it, you’re gonna love it!! Awesome channel, keep it up! 😉👌🏼
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot man! New video out now! Go check it out!
@GaborVincze
@GaborVincze 5 лет назад
Tom Ryan Yes I’ve just seen it and it made my day 😄🙏🏼 I always struggled with it, huge appreciation for that! I’ve just purchased it now 😅 Hit the bell icon, waiting for the next episode! You really rock man! 👊🏼
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@GaborVincze Awesome! Wish they had an affiliate program aha. I just made them $4! (Not a sponsor)
@tomaskuprys3138
@tomaskuprys3138 5 лет назад
Great video, man! Have you heard anything of the rumoured Panasonic FF camera? What are your thoughts on that?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Tomas Kuprys Thanks! Yes I have. I heard 4k 60fps, 10-Bit 422 at around $3000. Not sure how I feel. New glass, new system. We'll have to see what it's like when it comes out. I'm just personally hoping it drops the price of the GH5 and GH5s 😉😉
@tristanrujano
@tristanrujano 10 месяцев назад
I’m a bit confused, you said if you’re a photographer not to look at micro 4/3 because of what full frame is capable of, and for video the af is no good, so in what case should I want to go m43?
@hoodaud
@hoodaud 10 месяцев назад
When you don't want to waste more money. When you want get best price & best feature ratio. So mft is your correct choice.
@aldon78
@aldon78 4 года назад
Question, what about the 2/3, is it true you cant get good images with it? I just bought a cajon sx740 and my friend has a 1 inch sensor camera and he tells me mine wont have a good quality but I see his pictures and are not betters than mine, plus I have 40 X optical zoom his only have like 3X . I do know in low ligh 1 inch is better but hey for tje money difference.you cant beat my canon. Thanks for the video and let me know what you think please
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
What do you mean when you say the 2/3? I'm assuming you're speaking about a sensor size but I'm not familiar with it
@aldon78
@aldon78 4 года назад
@@WhatAboutTom yes, sensor size, here is the description; Canon SX740 HS comes with a 1/2.3" (~ 6.16 x 4.62 mm) CMOS sensor, which has a diagonal of 7.70 mm (0.3") and a surface area of 28.46 mm². Since I dont know too much about caneras I pasted the info. Thanks
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
@@aldon78 you can get good images with any camera, it's just a matter of how you use it. I get better photos with an iPhone than some people do with a $5000 camera. It's all about knowing how to use your tool. However, smaller sensors do have a harder time pushing out good images in bad conditions. Any camera can look good with good/non extreme lighting, but larger sensors are going to help you do things like shoot in darker environments, have better dynamic range, and give you more depth of field (which really isn't a huge issue when looking at MFT vs Full Frame, but 1/2.3" is a little small to get solid depth of field unless you're shooting wide open.)
@aldon78
@aldon78 4 года назад
@@WhatAboutTom thank you Tom! I guess I will save the money for what I do ocationally taking picts I am fine, and for 399.00 its fair price. 👍
@cybervaldez
@cybervaldez 5 лет назад
Does the speed booster have cons like make autofocus slower etc?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Yes, absolutely. Any adapter you use will be slower than native AF.
@TamirYankevich
@TamirYankevich 4 года назад
dude this is a GREAT video, thank you for doing such a thorough, technical review
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
Thanks dude! Hoping to make a new video soon!
@TamirYankevich
@TamirYankevich 4 года назад
Tom Ryan I’m looking forward to it! I subscribed, and I’m seriously considering your advice as I’m looking at upgrading to a new camera. Currently considering lumix g85, do you know if it’s any good?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
@@TamirYankevich I've heard great things about the g85, but the GH5 is on sale right now for Black Friday for like $1200. I'd HIGHLY recommend pulling the trigger on that
@TamirYankevich
@TamirYankevich 4 года назад
Tom Ryan hahah I’ll keep you posted, thank you for the recommendation, I really appreciate it!
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 4 года назад
@@TamirYankevich no problem!
@nicolocastelbarco1366
@nicolocastelbarco1366 5 лет назад
Is it still good for normal photography apart from film making?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
I've heard a lot of people say that they love MFT for photography. I've never used it myself, but it seems like a lot of people do.
@aaronp7540
@aaronp7540 5 лет назад
I just recently purchased the G85, and coming from a Canon 600D. I couldnt be happier. Just need to save some coin for a couple more lens. Great video btw. Keep it up.
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
Awesome! Ive heard great things about that camera.
@aaronp7540
@aaronp7540 5 лет назад
Yeah it seems to be a great little camera so far. And surprisingly comfortable to handle too. The IBIS and the price of lenses vs FF lenses really sold it for me. I only have the 25mm f1.7 at the moment. But I really enjoy the 50mm format. So Im pretty happy to wait till I can afford the 12-35mm.
@stevendukedesigns
@stevendukedesigns 5 лет назад
What kind of SD card do you use to take advantage of highest quality 4K video and higher frame rates the GH5 and GH5s offer?
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
I use a Sony SF-G Series UHS-II 300mbps card for 4k at 400MBPs and it works fine!
@stevendukedesigns
@stevendukedesigns 5 лет назад
Have you ever tested the video time with this SD card? I've seen a few people say they only will work for like 10mins and to instead use the Sandisk 128gb UHS-ii 300/mpbs cards
@WhatAboutTom
@WhatAboutTom 5 лет назад
@@stevendukedesigns Unfortunately I haven't. Maybe in the future I'll run some tests on it and let you know what I find
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