How do you feel about pop punk? These are 5 general reasons I've found from diving through the intergalactic highway to find out why people seem to hate the genre so much...
The reason new bands aren't popular anymore is because pop punk fans won't let the go of the older bands. If the fans cant give the new bands a chance, this genre will never come back.
Greg Khar Punkerz no the genre dosent need to sound like it did 20 years go I don’t like the direction it’s gone in but I don’t want it to be the same shit over and over either we’ve had that already
Different types of pop punk and where the bands belong: Skate pop punk: pre-Self Titled Blink, All Killer era Sum 41, The Offspring Power pop punk: Bowling For Soup, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan The poppiest side of the genre: All American Rejects, Boys Like Girls, early 5SOS, Busted, Nothing Personal-era All Time Low “Heavier” pop punk: Billy Talent, Does This Look Infected era Sum 41, Neck Deep (Before These god awful new singles), The Story So Far, A Day To Remember, Wonder Years “Emo” inspired pop punk: early FOB, All We Know-era Paramore Dark pop punk: Three Cheers-era MCR, Alkaline Trio Often mistaken as pop punk: Avril Lavigne, Panic! At The Disco Sad Boi pop punk: Knuckle Puck, Man Overboard, Real Friends, Mayday Parade (even though they were around, before that term was a thing) (That’s All I’ve got)
I'm excited about the new era of pop punk! Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, With Confidence, etc... are all killing it rn and I like MGK's new sound and how he blends his rapper personality with his rocker side. Even older groups like All Time Low and Blink are still killing it imo
Tom Delonge decided to change cause he didn't fit in blink, now AvA is a great band but the new blink is not great. I'm not sure if I even should argue but you just need to listen to Nine to understand a lot of today's bands are better. I love blink but blink with skibba is not that great at all, even if it's not the worst band All in all it's just a matter of taste
I think my problem with a lot of pop punk is that a lot of it sounds very samey, with very similar riffs, guitar tuning, tempos, and drum patterns. There's definitely some good pop punk out there (like the ones you mentioned), but most just seem to fall into the same boat as modern rap for me.
Check out the band named ALL if you want a non-generic pop punk sound. They're basically like a progressive pop punk band instead of a yet-another-ramones-clone.
Pop punk was the first genre of music i really got into and for that i have much respect for the genre. GreenDay and Blink for example were the first bands i fully engaged with as a 10 year old hopefully the genre has a good future with some really good bands popping up such as Stand Atlantic and even Waterparks really bringing in a varied fan base
I honestly really like Pop Punk, though i'm pretty picky about it. Though, I'm loving the pop punk bands that have been fusing into different genres or adding new influences like Waterparks, Stand Atlantic, As It Is, and Broadside.
This describes me pretty well, got into the genre pretty late (2016), can’t stand heavier sounds or late 2000s with whiny voices (sleeping with sirens )
The last pop punk adjacent song to hit the mainstream was Love Drunk by Boys Like Girls and that came out 11 years ago and the last full blown pop punk track to hit the mainstream was Misery Business, which came out 13 years ago, let that sink in
Jason LovesABR You could throw in The Story So Far, too, as their last album reached #19 on the Billboard 200. Also, Neck Deep’s, “The Peace and the Panic”, debuted at #4 on the Billboard 200 in both the US and UK back in 2017.
Pop Punk was my gateway drug into metal core and post hardcore. In the early 2000’s and even parts of the 2010’s a lot of these bands with different styles toured together. Is pop punk my favorite genre? I don’t know maybe. It’s definitely the one I’m most comfortable with and feel like I know the most about. I do owe pop punk music for bringing me into situations where I discovered other great genres.
Personally I usually label it all as rock music. All Time Low is hands down my favorite band and really got me into the scene. But even before them I loved Blink, Green Day, and BFS. I don’t really get the concept that “oh they’re too whinny”. Yeah, people have problems and they need artists and such to relate to in those times. And that’s the thing. If I were to say pop punk is one thing, it’s relatable above everything else. Most bands have artists that are just normal looking people singing about their hopes, dreams, fears, love, loss, etc. I live in Florida and I don’t care for it here so I can totally relate to to the “wanna leave this town and start a new life” kinda music. And come on! Who hasn’t had their heart broken, felt like the weird kid , hell even been the weird kid (or adult) and felt like they don’t belong and no one understands them? If you’ve never felt these things then I’m happy for you but those of us that are more emotional and deal with these things (some people daily) NEED people they can relate and look up to. I used to hate the term “emo” but now I love it because what does it ultimately mean? Emotional. And for me at least it’s amazing when you hear others express their emotions and you can think like “oh shit. They understand how I feel”. Hell The new emo rap is starting to grow on me because instead of being about “drugs, bitches, and gang life” (not saying all rap is but a lot of it’s out there) it’s about emotional highs and lows. Like Juice WRLD’s “Lucid Dreams” for example. And yes. I dig what MGK’s doing rn too. In regards to the gate keeping, yeah that’s a problem you get with all purists of all fandoms. I’m not sure if there’s a way to actually change that but I also wish people were more open minded. I love the twist on rock music that Waterparks brings to the table for example. They hate being called pop punk so I’ll refrain from that but they definitely have elements of pop punk for sure. Yet, Awstens’ delivery in a lot of the songs is very akin to rapping and they have a fair amount of electronic stylings as well. For those saying “it’s too simplistic, anyone can do it” first off, I implore you. Please. Go do it then if it’s so easy. Second, that’s definitely part of the charm. This idea that “hey these people are like me and maybe I have a chance at being as big as them and doing what I love for a living like they are”. That alone is so incredible and inspirational. And that’s ultimately why I say pop punk at its core is about one thing above all else. Relatability. For that, I believe it is extremely important that the genre continues and strives (unless something similar over takes it). But for now, I think it’s definitely here to stay.
I used to listen to pop punk, but now I listen to more “real”/hardcore/anarcho punk. I think what bothers those who listen to heavier punk genres is that when most people think of punk nowadays, they think of pop punk instead. If i were to tell someone i listened to punk, they would likely think i mean green day, blink 182, or any other similar sounding bands, even though that isn’t what i listen to. I just would like to see more people differentiating punk and pop punk.
This is exactly my feeling to mainstream Rap as well. When I say I listen to Hip-Hop, I mean MF DOOM, Grandmaster Flash, ICP or some Gorillaz songs, not Lil Wayne, Lil Pump or Cardi B (yuck !).
Do videos on obscure genres of punk. Like Celtic Punk. Bands like Dropkick Murphys, Flogging Molly, The Pogues. Or do videos on Horror Punk (The Misfits) and Psychobilly. These genres of Punk never get talked about.
I didn't mind early punk like The Ramones, Buzzcocks, etc. But I hate it now...The emo pop punk and pop punk in general drives me insane. The fact that the genre is more popular than let's say, power metal, pisses me off like no other.
I’m with you on that. True punk to me are bands like The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Bad Brains, The Clash (from 1977 to 1979), The Buzzcocks, Television, Bikini Kill, Black Flag, and The Damned. Many recent post-punk bands (Squid, Parquet Courts, shame, etc.) are doing more for punk than most if not all pop punk bands from the mid-90s and the 2000s.
I personally love pop punk as a genre. Green Day, Paramore, Blink-182, Sum 41, and Rise Against (even though they're more melodic hardcore than pop punk) are some of my favorite bands. I also love my share of songs from Fall Out Boy, MCR, All American Rejects, New Found Glory, etc. I think the main reason why people dislike it is due to the similarity in lyrics as well as the fact that it takes an underground genre and makes it more accessible. It's why most metalheads tend to hate 80s glam metal. Personally, that doesn't mean much to me because a lot of these bands aren't trying to be hardcore like Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, or Misfits. They happen to write catchy songs with a lot of attitude with the instrumentation. Pop punk isn't supposed to be as complex or musically interesting as other genres (even though Green Day & the Fueled By Ramen bands wanted to push the genre's boundaries in the 2000s). It's its own fun little thing that I happen to really appreciate.
Love pop punk. Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Paramore, Green Day and more have been some of the most memorable bands I've ever listened to. Although I like experimenting with Alt music a bit more, even Indie: Pop punk has a place in my heart.
There’s a lot of new pop punk bands that are pushing the boundaries a bit or are at least getting there. Stand Atlantic, Between You & Me, Trash Boat, and With Confidence all have great debut albums! I’m also super excited for mgks new album too :)
I get the last point but also hate it cause I've never liked the idea of hating something because of it's fandom. Cause let's be real...most fandoms for anything, be it a band, a genre of music, a tv show, a game, etc. are almost always toxic in their own way. Or at least have toxic people in them. Either way my only issue with pop-punk has been that some artists are just very derivative of others in the genre. That said you get acts like Say Anything or Brand New (sorta) or PUP or something that distinguish themselves
I'm not really a fan of pop punk except for Green Day. I feel I've outgrown it as a genre and I do feel a lot of it is pretty simplistic. But I do respect it's cultural relevance and how it can be a vehicle to exposing people to more interesting and challenging styles of music.
you don't know what you're talking about. making beats IS hard. rapping IS hard. rap actually has A LOT of deep lyrics. lots of trap rap also has guitars. a lot of the newer trap rap is heavily influenced by pop punk and emo, and the lyrical content is much the same.
The reason I hate it is because it ruins everything about punk rock. It takes that hard angry sound that was built up in the 70s and 80s and makes it accessible and cooperate
Thank you Pop punk didn't "evolve from punk rock" it evolved from pop and there's nothing wrong with pop music if that's what someone likes but it isn't punk rock Punk rock is rooted in anger and struggle, pop punk is rooted in mild inconvenice
I used to hate pop punk but after you find the type on bands in the genre you like it can be one of the most rewarding...still there’s so much pop punk I can’t stand. But the gems are all you really need
I would say, much like with metal, the fans and gatekeeping is why some people hate the genre. Newer acts being shit on by fans who gatekeep what the genre is about or clang on to older acts so the genre never gets a chance to revive itself or evolve. Rap/hiphop gets the same treatment to an extent, but not as badly which is why we still see rap and hiphop in the mainstream with different subgenres appearing. Who knows, we might see a comeback
I mean, Pop Punk is what introduced me to Punk. I, actually, think it's my favorite genre of music. Yeah, most of it sounds similar with similar themes, but I kind of don't mind that. When I listen to Pop Punk, I usually know what I'm getting in to, even if I've never heard the song before. You can dislike that, sure, but I like some certainty in my life.
I feel like pop punk isn’t an oxymoron. The big 3 of 70’s punk (Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols) were all pretty successful and to this day get airplay on rock stations. They were pop bands at the time. Punk only started to become an insular scene in the 80’s when the hardcore movement started to pick up steam.
If no punk purists criticize The Clash for making obvious pop songs like Rock the Casbah or criticize The Ramones for having very pop-centric melodies, why do they criticize post-1990 pop punk bands for doing the same thing? It's totally hypocritical.
When something that only relates to people who consider themselves outcasts becomes mainstream, they feel like it was taken away from them as if they had a right to it in the first place. How comic purists react to the MCU is a good example of this. You can find plenty of this gatekeeping nonsense on places reddit and iFunny too. They’re currently doing it with ATLA (Avatar the Last Airbender) because it’s popular on Netflix now. Unfortunately it’s just they way things go once something originally niche becomes mainstream
I have nothing against pop punk... but I hate it😂 To me, the genre simply does not appeal to me. The vocals are consistently annoying to my ears. They are either whiney sounding or the cheesy chorus melodies just repulse me. I do like a lot of post punk and more unhinged punk but I wouldn't consider myself an elitist. Music is all subjective and while I hate pop punk, I would actively encourage anyone who loves it to keep listening! I'm of the mindset of spreading the love of MUSIC as a whole, not just a genre.
And because you can be open minded, understanding, and accepting of the fact that while something isn’t for you doesn’t mean it’s bad so you can let others enjoy it, you are going about this in the right way. As such I can honestly say I respect your opinion yet disagree. To each their own.
Even though it’s become one of my favorite genres of music over the past 4 years, I can definitely get why some people dislike or even hate pop punk and especially for the reasons pointed out here.
Pop punk has so many talented musicians. The reason I think pop punk is hated is because the whiny vocal style, the same sound all over again and the songs get so annoying when you play it again and again.
returning to pop punk now is like reuniting with an old childhood friend you haven’t seen in years, nice to reminisce and feel nostalgic but it just isn’t the same anymore.
Although my music taste was founded on pop punk back when I was in high school and still has a place in my heart plus my fashion style is still influenced by it at my age of 27, I haven't listen to it as much over the years due to my music taste expanding into other directions especially into more electronica type music and now listen to a lot of electro rock/synthpop/new wave/industrial, Japanese pop/city pop/future funk, video game OSTs from Nintendo/Sega/Retro/Indie stuff, and older alternative and classic rock. I can see where people are coming from on why they hate it. I also didn't know until now that Halsey and MGK are trying to bring back that pop punk sound as I stopped following top 40 chart pop music many years ago.
I would be curious to see a reasons why about Post-Grunge since I feel that's the one genre I've never seen anyone defend. I wouldn't go as far as say I'm in love with it, but I feel there are also certain bands with that label that are better than some people give credit for.
I wish they could acknowledge "emo" rap for the "dark" kind that it is. Emo is too firm and can't be as diverse as metal is. Even nu metal has some ties to the roots. "Emo" rap doesn't.
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 well most emo rappers well the modern ones, are influenced by trap rap and not dissing trap but it's not the best genre, to be influenced by when making a emo offshoot of a genre.
Great video. Pop punk is part of my big 3 with prog and alt metal. I love the feel and the sound, and there can be some cool riffs and interesting progressions. That said, along with #5 being a thing with pretty much every genre, I feel like #3 is the only valid complaint to have with pop punk since I feel a lot of people within the community feel like you need to commit to a formula in order to truly be pop punk, and that's something I think holds the genre back from growing. One reason why Bayside is one of my favorite bands is because they don't fall into that trap. Outside of that, I always rolled my eyes at the purists and the stereotyping.
While I don't listen to a lot of Pop Punk, I can really understand some of these critiques. Now that I'm seeing this, I'd like to hear you talk about 5 or more reasons why people hate Nu-Metal. I say/suggest Nu-Metal specifically because it seems to be the genre that gets the most hate by metal elitists and people in general who like Heavy Metal music.
Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, Belmont, Hot Mulligan (my personal favorite jam right now,) Neck Deep (specifically “Life’s Not Out to Get You”) there are a ton of great up and coming pop punk bands these days that are really making good music and definitely more technical music.
Honestly, I’m mostly a fan of R&B, soul, funk, rap, jazz, and electronic. Not big into most heavy rock stuff, but in moderation it’s okay, I like Ska Punk and Nu Metal for example. Edit: outdated because I occasionally listen to other kinds of heavy rock music
When you say “heavy rock”, do you mean “Led Zeppelin heavy” or “Black Sabbath proto-doom metal-type heavy”? Pop punk is the lightest rock-related genre you can think of. Not heavy in the slightest? It’s faux-punk.
@The Hive Productions That makes no sense. Have you ever heard of soft rock? Pop rock? Folk rock? Rock and Roll? Pop Punk is way heavier than any of that. I think you have the idea in your head that heavy always means good, but it doesn’t. Most Pop Punk is crap, and that’s heavy, same with a good amount of the heavier end of metal because by then it’s mostly shrieking and mindless noises, grindcore or whatever. Meanwhile many amazing music genres and bands exist that are not even slightly heavy
Every phase of pop punk is legit imo! Every new band that releases new music such as Neck Deep, Stand Atlantic, State Champs, etc, keep bringing value to the genre. Also, we're crossing our fingers in hope that MGK encourages a new pop punk mainstream revival 🤞 Note: We're a pop punk band from Portugal, in case you're interested 😋🙏
There's another reason why it's almost fashionable to hate pop punk - it's melodic. The very term 'pop' punk is almost a derogatory description...ie. it's not real punk, it's pop punk. Pop, and melody in general, is seen now as something "those crappy mainstream songs have" so the tendency for bands and fans is to steer away from melody and go for something more extreme instead. It's crazy. The Ramones were melodic. The Damned were melodic. Even the Sex Pistols were melodic. Punk was effectively old rock & roll on steroids. It was only later, in the 80s, that hardcore punk redefined what a lot of people in the USA call punk. I would concede that a lot of pop punk bands from the very late 90s onwards did sound incredibly generic, and the vocals were whiny in their delivery, but I think if bands of all genres could lose their fear of writing a song that's 'catchy', the music world would be a better place.
People secretly love catchy melodies but openly hate it as they realize that's what people love, so liking it doesn't make you look "edgy" enough Make zero sense but that's what punk rock poser mentality all about: It's just about image and identity, music doesn't even matter, the real reason why punk is dead, and well deserved
@@Kiakaha-v2o Metal has gone down that same route, but somehow it retains a degree of popularity - maybe because there are big metal bands still playing and drawing fans in. With punk, the attitude seems far worse in the USA, where many seem stuck with the idea that it's aggressive hardcore or nothing. In the UK, in contrast, Rumkicks could all but fill the main hall for a terrible 2pm slot at the Rebellion Festival, despite them being women, playing catchy punk, and usually not even singing in English.
@@RevStickleback In the other hand metal is still envolving, despite being controversial, djent is the new thing, originated from a subgenre which nickname is "musical wankfest". I guess diversity can really keep a genre live
I think I’ve experienced way more gatekeepers then fan boys, but I definitely get it. I was never a die hard pop punk fan but I was for Easy Core so they kind of go hand in hand
Reasons people love K-Pop 1. Been tired of boring Western popstar and mumble rapper 2. Having good live performance, outstanding stage presence and energetic choreo 3. Makes people wanna ''dance'' even though they don't know any single word 4. K-Pop is visual music, so it does entertain our eyes 5. K-Pop idols are talented, trained hard and discipline Reasons why people hate K-Pop 1. They all look the same (the concept, the hairstyle, the look) 2. Lipsyncing *not always 3. The way label treats idols (idols=puppet) *not always 4. Tight competition and strict rules 5. Plastic surgery
I'm into Thrash Metal, Power Metal, Speed Metal, Classic Heavy Metal, Prog Metal and some Numetal I like early blink-182 and Green day songs like Longview which is my favorite Green day song because of the bassline I think people hate Pop punk because of the Vans warped tour and other reasons like the Pop punk clothing style of the late 90's and early 2000's
Basically for me, it was great when the genre exploded when I was younger... I still enjoy a lot of the bands I grew up listening to, there’s a few decent bands out there now, a few great tunes coming out of the scene here and there, but it’s definitely sort of plateaued sonically. That’s why I’m such a fan of Tom Delonge, he’s always been trying to push the genre further, bring in more eclectic and modern sounds, he’s always been kind of on the cusp of (modern) new-wave if you know what I mean. Hoping the new AVA album delivers... Now it’s like all I see anymore are a bunch of bands still just wanting to play their guitar and drums and not do anything to expand on the music. I’ll give Belmont some props though with some of their stuff, some of their instrumentals really break into prog-metalcore territory, something like ERRA, and that’s pretty dope... but man, there’s not a whole lot of genuinely interesting things going on in the genre anymore. Just bands pumping out more of the same and legacy acts putting out glorified throwback/legacy albums or whatever... Been there, done that.
The reason why I can only listen to a few bands is because of the vocals. There are a few exceptions of course, but most of these vocalists are just not very good and all try the whiny voice thing that just doesnt cut it for me.
Offspring, Green Day, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, Sum 41, and Paramore all sound completely different from each other. First and foremost, COMPLETELY different vocal styles and guitar tunings. Patrick Stump sings soul, Tom Delonge's singing is ENTIRELY unique to him, and BJ's voice is also entirely his own. Fall Out Boy loves drop D, Green Day used Eb, and a lot of bands use standard tuning. Travis Barker is a fanominal drummer and so is Tre. There's also some really good guitar players in the pop punk scene as well. For having literally no lessons ever, Tom Delonge is really good at guitar. And hating their hometowns and exes? Hmmm. I feel like that's actually not as common as you may think. Green Day really didn't do this at all. Blink 182's songs were pretty much satirical and comedic on purpose and weren't really like dead serious songs. Sum 41 straight up didn't do this. The pop punk stigma of it only being like a C5, G5, F5 three chord progression the entire song is blatantly false. Literally no bands do this. There are melodies being played. If you look at a song like Dammit, probably half of that song is lead. The DIY scene is straight up dead. The only way you can operate a DIY venue is if you have a secondary income. Labels don't make money in the DIY scene either and bands certainly dont make much money. There will be maybe 20 people at your shows.
Yea I dont really know where the “all pop punk bands sound the same”. You could listen to one FOB, MCR, and Paramore song and instantly tell in their other songs what band it is.
If I could give this comment more likes or favorite it, I definitely would. Very well said. Btw, I’ve noticed the common chord progression is Bm, D, A, G. Not all songs but a lot of them do use these chords not necessarily in the same order though. Who charges either way? Good music is still good music right?
@@CAVFIFTEEN idk dude I don't think THAT many songs are just the same chord progression in pop punk. Idk any of them that are Bm, D, A, G, but if you know a lot of songs that are like that, that's cool. There probably are a lot of songs that are like that. But like you said, who the fuck actually cares? Good music is still good music, exactly.
I don't really like Green Day or Blink 182 and most pop punk bands are influenced by those two bands so I don't massively enjoy most of them either. I used to kinda get there as a teenager but bands like Linkin Park steered me towards the heavier stuff so I just ended up listening to metal and emo instead. That had a bit of crossover with bands like Paramore and Fall Out Boy but I actually feel like those two kinda buck the trend too.
i feel like i'm on a similar side as good ol *B r a d T a s t e* the reason i hate pop punk is because the VAST majority of the bands (98-09) are so uncharismatic and vapid. especially in the TRL days. as a musician and semi-producer, it's hard for me to draw from any feeling or emotion from the spotless, lifeless production and 3 chord structure in drop D that plagues a lot of it. i know there's probably redeeming bands that don't come off (to me) as fucking annoying or having the most neandarthalic song structure and production, but they're very few and far between
Love the recommendations! Some of them are amongst of my favourites. Also curious to ask if The Story so Far has grown on you since you recommended them?
I can understand why some people hate Pop Punk, I mean, some bands have rather whiny vocals that are a bit irritating to some, and even some bands I find irritating to listen to because of those vocals, but I think the genre gets a lot more hate than it deserves. There are some truly bad Pop Punk bands out there, but there are some that put out amazing music. I personally enjoy the genre. Although I prefer Hardcore Punk more than anything, Pop Punk has plenty of great bands that have not only emotional weight to their lyrics, but also can bring off quite a bit of energy that can spark up someone's mood when they're down. Also, the instrumentation does not get enough credit. Some bands of that subgenre are more than just vocals. I mean Blink-182 (even with Matt Skiba) has Travis Barker, one of the best damn drummers in Rock music in general, Mark is a solid bassist, and Tom is a great guitarist too. Simple, but effective, and aren't afraid to get out of their comfort zone when they want to. People can like and dislike what they want, but while I get some of the hate for the genre, I think the treatment it's gotten over the years has been quite unfair.
I’d agree with some of these statements as someone in a pop punk band about to drop our album I feel now it’s all about standing out. We as a group all like hardcore so we have hardcore elements in our songs but there’s only so many notes you can play so it’s hard to recreate the wheel too.
I think it’s really cool that artists like MGK, Halsey, and Yungblud are taking the style and turning it into mainstream hits. I think this also proves that the idea of a solo artist is more marketable than a band.
I think I’m kind of detached from the scene. I’m a huge fan but literally none of my friends are. I had no idea this was the stereotype of the community. At concerts, I tend to strike up conversations with people around me and I’ve never felt anything but welcoming positivity, so this video was surprising. I’ve never experienced gate keeping. Hopefully I’m not alone!
Another new pop punk band that is worth everyone's time who like the genre are Last Night Saved My Life. They are quite a small band but they are just so talented.
Green Day and The Offspring started this subgenre in 1994. Blink-182 took that and ran with it. My Chemical Romance brought it to a place where it would never come back from, and bands such as Neck Deep and Carousel Kings kept that alive. The genre will not die. It will live on thanks to three men. Colson Baker. Austin Richard Post. Travis Landon Barker. Being the drummer of blink-182, Travis Barker is already quite famous. MGK's new album will turn the car on and Posty's will take it extremely far
The thing is I have heard pop punk but trying to even listen to it made me call them the equivalent to whiny girls Also the minute Green Day badmouthed Nu Metal is the moment I said Phuk Green Day
First, I don't want to split hairs about this but I don't understand why it's called Punk at all. All I can say is that "Pop Punk" is a term for an alternative rock style that started in the 90s. I don't like it because it doesn't have an edge. I just think it's boring.
I love pop punk and I don't care what anyone else thinks. I pretty much only listen to rock, all types of rock, but pop punk will always be an important genre to me.
I prefer not to go into subcategories of punk, metal or rock too much and just listen to whichever band I like under these broad categories . This keeps you out of the argument and you can just listen to whatever the hell you like
My three favorite genres are pop punk, hip hop, and metal, like Between the Buried and Me and Born of Osiris. Those genres sound the best out of a car stereo. Thats why hardcore punk is still loved but one notch below those in my taste. Punk purists don't phase me. They try to act like Minor Threat sounds better than Yellowcard but yea right to that. I just stay honest with myself. Pop Punk will always be number one to me.
