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5 tips to improve your BACKHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath) 

Tom Lodziak
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In this video, top coach Ferenc Horvath gives 5 tips to help you improve your backhand loop.
To become an advanced table tennis player, it is essential that you can loop backspin balls (i.e. pushes and chops).
Many players, including myself, find the backhand loop a little tricky to do. There is a real skill needed to co-ordinate the legs, forearm and wrist to generate lots of speed and spin with your backhand.
But help is at hand. In this video Ferenc explains in detail the technique needed to master the backhand loop. There is also lots of footage of Ferenc demonstrating the shot. I have been on the receiving end of Ferenc's backhand loop many times, and it is a wonderful shot.
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@hopjoywastaken
@hopjoywastaken 3 года назад
Timestamps: 0:50 bat position 2:10 swing 4:13 bat finishing position 5:41 grip 6:45 more speed and spin 8:23 backhand loop in action
@belomo2009
@belomo2009 3 года назад
IMO! This is the best backhand topspin tutorial you will find. This is exactly how Liam Pitchford does his.
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
Thank you! :)
@darrinkulyk9560
@darrinkulyk9560 3 года назад
Definitely Enjoyed That Thankyou
@hondagod904
@hondagod904 Год назад
I would have to disagree. This is because many players, myself included don’t like Liam Pitchford’s play style. Now don’t misunderstand, Liam Pitchford is top 100 he’s an outstanding players and should be praised. However for people who don’t like this play style, this is not the “best” tutorial. No need for an argument btw I’m just saying this to throw it out there. This video helped me out a ton.
@maxmusfulla2114
@maxmusfulla2114 3 года назад
Most detailled backhand explanation on RU-vid 👌
@halter777
@halter777 3 года назад
Really good tutorial, Ferenc explained it very well. He seems very consistent in his shots.
@justchill99902
@justchill99902 3 года назад
His teaching videos are so amazing.. they definitely deserve way more likes and views.. :)
@ujjalchatterjee9198
@ujjalchatterjee9198 Год назад
Such a nice demonstration with slow rhythm of speaking, which help us to understand all important actions. GREAT.
@clockworkorange2915
@clockworkorange2915 3 года назад
Thanks Tom and ferenc that was brilliant . The attention to detail is exactly what i need to execute this shot and im starting to get there.
@bryany99
@bryany99 3 года назад
Very helpful. Great detail. Thanks!
@kdgr
@kdgr 3 года назад
Super Tom!!! Thank you Ferenc. 🏓👍
@adamfuzes8391
@adamfuzes8391 3 года назад
Great video, thanks!
@KenHarrington32
@KenHarrington32 2 года назад
Loved this tutorial Tom and Ference. I always had a good backhand, but with this extra shot it will deffoe give my usual opponents a bit of a shock. Great stuff guys keep it going please.
@chandanapadhi9632
@chandanapadhi9632 2 года назад
leeemrmrmrmrmrmhj=km
@lapadatcristi6083
@lapadatcristi6083 3 года назад
Very very good tutorial!! Keep up the good work!!!
@MLaciBp
@MLaciBp 2 года назад
Thank You Tom! Köszönöm, Ferenc!
@nym053
@nym053 3 года назад
Thank you very much! The best explaination of the backhandloop. Now it makes sense. I should lift the forearm first and then put the wrist Into action and not holding the wrist down Before moving the arm. Now I get why that doesn't work. The wrist is turned before hitting the ball. Moving the wrist later as a whipping action will impact the ball at the right time
@yusufshaha3980
@yusufshaha3980 Год назад
Wow! How beautifully explained...👍
@robertliszka8130
@robertliszka8130 3 года назад
Kolejny dobry film Tomaszu, dzięki ✌️
@fredriksigeman
@fredriksigeman 3 года назад
Thanks! Ferenc is really great at this. Perfect tutorial.
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
Thank you!
@humbertomenezes8109
@humbertomenezes8109 11 месяцев назад
Sou do Brasil, parabens pelo video rapido e direto, foi otima sua explicacao e técnica, vou colocar em prática e muito obrigado!
@teicck9041
@teicck9041 3 года назад
Yahoo i need TT tips and tricks and thank you 👍🏻👍🏻🤩
@nzrealpk7629
@nzrealpk7629 3 года назад
Great tips that,ll cure my weak backhand low shot..to develop into something.. from a Auckland senior
@ellaella6616
@ellaella6616 3 года назад
Thanks for the tips I really appreciate it 😁😊😅
@tolgatoksoz3730
@tolgatoksoz3730 3 года назад
Perfect lessons thanks alot.
@schinnery6335
@schinnery6335 3 года назад
Great tutorial. This backhand smash/loop has always been my best shot. This tutorial helped me tweak out and correct some bad habits I discovered I had. Terrific video. Thank you very much.
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
Thank you!
@ricograube7732
@ricograube7732 3 года назад
grest video, and very very detailed. awesome!
@julianmorales9064
@julianmorales9064 3 года назад
thanks it was quite useful
@tabletenniswithabp3468
@tabletenniswithabp3468 3 года назад
Very detailed explaination of Backhand Loop. Thanks a lot for this amazing Video
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
Thank you! :)
@PingBrothersTR
@PingBrothersTR 3 года назад
Very good video 🏓
@mazwirwir5143
@mazwirwir5143 3 года назад
Thank you coach👍🏻
@adindacakraningrat5613
@adindacakraningrat5613 3 года назад
Thanks Tom. Appreciate.
@richardready6272
@richardready6272 Год назад
Excellent Tom & always looking forward to your video’s & the guests of Who’s Who of the Table Tennis 🏓 World Novice Sydney down under ❤like the break down & commentary & the contents of all your video’s 💯😜🤙🏽😎👍🏽👌🏽
@scotchtape4885
@scotchtape4885 3 года назад
Yayy! Tom uploaded!
@Franky_1974
@Franky_1974 3 года назад
Wow. Very nice tipps, Ferenc. Everybody told us, to fix the elbow and only rotate with the forearm. But this technique is insane! Thanks a lot!
@TomLodziak
@TomLodziak 3 года назад
Yes, Ferenc has a very fluid technique with his forearm and wrist. I like it a lot.
@Franky_1974
@Franky_1974 3 года назад
Me too. I will try to acquire this technique ;-)
@nickludu2251
@nickludu2251 2 года назад
this is the best tutorial that makes more sense
@DANVIIL
@DANVIIL 2 года назад
Excellent!
@otisskopik1400
@otisskopik1400 3 года назад
great stuff
@sanjarnarzullaev
@sanjarnarzullaev 3 года назад
Great video
@tungnguyenvan2298
@tungnguyenvan2298 3 года назад
Great video as always. Could you please make a tutorial of how to receive short/long no spin ball/serve? It’s quite hard for me to handle that type of ball. Thank you.
@alexanderdonth4680
@alexanderdonth4680 3 года назад
Hi Tom, I would like to thank you and Ferenc for the video of the forhand loop. Especially step 6, position on the table... close to the table, left leg "under" the table... this was a detail really helped me to do "one step forward" to get an imagination how forhand loop works... "the ball is falling down close to the table" --> you have to stay close to the table, facing the ball... 👍👍👍
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
You're very welcome! :)
@abcdefghi7325
@abcdefghi7325 3 года назад
Thank you :)
@nnamdichrisume9384
@nnamdichrisume9384 3 года назад
Thank you Tommy!
@isadsyafaat7057
@isadsyafaat7057 3 года назад
I- Who?
@ArmandBistreanu
@ArmandBistreanu 3 года назад
Great tutorial. Can u point out the differences between backhand topspin and backhand loop? Maybe a side-to-side tutorial or some references to ur past tutorials will be welcomed. Thanks.
@sureshakella4263
@sureshakella4263 8 месяцев назад
Nice coaching
@karlmaier8904
@karlmaier8904 3 года назад
super video,the same in vorhand topspin please...
@joecheng7491
@joecheng7491 Год назад
Very good demotration
@Жэк
@Жэк 3 года назад
Хороший урок. Спасибо.
@jeanbalthazar8014
@jeanbalthazar8014 3 года назад
Thanks a lot.
@mihai8555
@mihai8555 3 года назад
Me again, I have one suggestion. Now you have a good video on forehand loop and one on backhand, how about a video with focusing on the transition back and forth between the two (for players that don't switch grip)? I don't find that much on RU-vid on this topic, and Ferenc' input on this could be really helpful for beginners like me.
@accountaccount3840
@accountaccount3840 2 года назад
Thanks 😊
@blikomang2417
@blikomang2417 3 года назад
Iam beginner thanks coach, I will try it with friends
@chriszod
@chriszod 3 года назад
Nice video...i always enjoy. I wish i can get a giveaway racket from u of any sort, just a confused player without rubber😭
@MistaR17
@MistaR17 Год назад
The most elegant shot in table tennis.
@user-ql1uh8ph8m
@user-ql1uh8ph8m 4 месяца назад
Thanks
@eloimumford5247
@eloimumford5247 2 года назад
All is said , now its time to practice and relax mentally !
@mickteixeira5422
@mickteixeira5422 3 года назад
I'm learning British english and also how to play table tennis 😅
@pingcredible3477
@pingcredible3477 3 года назад
why?
@mickteixeira5422
@mickteixeira5422 3 года назад
@@pingcredible3477 I'm brazilian, my native language is portuguese.
@pingcredible3477
@pingcredible3477 3 года назад
@@mickteixeira5422 Oh cool!!
@hotlavafse6932
@hotlavafse6932 3 года назад
@@pingcredible3477 What is a loop? Im new to table tennis
@pingcredible3477
@pingcredible3477 3 года назад
@@hotlavafse6932 Loops are like heavy topspin shots. You see players hit down to up at an angle. I actually did some looping in my video but it isn't the best.
@kneckedeck
@kneckedeck 3 года назад
Great tutorial! If the opening backhand topspin is against backspin, how would the movement for the followup bh attack differ? I realize the energy should be more forwards than upwards, but it would be great to hear you explain this. Again, thanks for the video!
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
The key for an effective follow-up topspin is your elbow position, recovered balanced stance and relaxed elbow-wrist. With the open-up, if the follow-through is properly done, your elbow is taken to a centered, idle position, high enough to give you a good chance to topspin the next blocked-back ball on the top (10-40 degrees). Since the open-up takes you close to the table, you need to make sure that the follow-up doesn't find you too close. The contact timing on the backhand follow-up can be earlier than the highest point of the arc, to give you more offensive edge. The swinging wave is launched simply around the elbow by the forearm muscles, the swinging angle is closely aligned with the racket angle, the upper arm shouldn't really move. For me, the wrist does 80% of the job, the elbow 20%. If your elbow is stable during the topspin, the quality and consistency will increase. See at 8:43.
@kneckedeck
@kneckedeck 3 года назад
@@paragontabletennis8555 Thank you for your answer! I'll need to read that a couple of times and let it sink in... 🙂
@nguyenanhquynh7322
@nguyenanhquynh7322 3 года назад
Tom, this video focuses more on looping backspin? or the same technique applies to both topspin & backspin? if not, please have another video focusing on looping topspin. Ferenc is an amazing coach, thanks!
@ngocduongtran5749
@ngocduongtran5749 3 года назад
When Tom use the word Looping is just use in case backspin ball. If topsin is Tom will use word topspin back hand against topspin ball.
@TomLodziak
@TomLodziak 3 года назад
If the ball has topspin, you should start with your elbow and bat higher. You also need to close the bat angle and the stroke should be more forwards than up. I always think of it this way - if backspin - swing up, if topspin - swing forward.
@schinnery6335
@schinnery6335 3 года назад
Tom Lodziak love that simplicity: backspin swing up; topspin swing forward
@nguyenanhquynh7322
@nguyenanhquynh7322 3 года назад
Tom, there are many suggestions about shifting weight from left to right when looping backhand, but this video never mentioned it. Or Ferenc technique is different?
@user-lq6mq6uu4h
@user-lq6mq6uu4h 3 года назад
Super
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman 3 года назад
I guess I will improve my best weapon even further.
@stanislavlubinskij7492
@stanislavlubinskij7492 2 года назад
Thanks Tom , by the way, what equipment using Ferenc Horvath ?
@mojtabaghafoory8474
@mojtabaghafoory8474 3 года назад
About grip, i found that if i loosen my index and thumb but apply pressure with other three fingers i get more bat speed but i lose control of shot. So which one is better? Holding bat with thumb and index finger or other three fingers
@mihai8555
@mihai8555 3 года назад
Hi, very nice video. One thing though, the part where Ferenc explains how to move the wrist - imho, what you do AFTER making contact with the ball has no effect anymore on the ball. I feel Ferenc does not explain correctly why you should let your wrist swing to the end. He is right, but he is not explaining the reason. I remember seeing a different tutorial that explains the premature breaking effect that can happen if you don't swing freely.
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
Thank you for your insight! It is mentioned in the video that if you don't swing your wrist to the right side endpoint, you "sacrifice a little bit of extra spin" (from 4:56) meaning your maximum spin output would be less. What could have been added is that the wrist follow-through has an essential role in controlling, directing these loops, pinpointing their placement accuracy, creating higher arc loops when necessary. Also, that right side bat endpoint relaxes your wrist by driving it to an aligned, straight "idle" position, keeping your wrist and forearm relaxed during those milliseconds between consecutive loops.
@ertanuca5463
@ertanuca5463 3 года назад
He has good forehand as well...
@winstonlim9625
@winstonlim9625 3 года назад
What is the rubber Ferenc Horvath on this BH loop? Asking if short pips can do this job?
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
I use Xiom Omega series, currently Omega IV Pro (max). Short pips require a different technique to attack backspin, unfortunately.
@ielts2lua451
@ielts2lua451 2 месяца назад
I think this is a modern technique
@Audaione
@Audaione 3 года назад
how to hit long distance spin
@karlbjerke133
@karlbjerke133 2 года назад
Is this only used against backspin?
@TomLodziak
@TomLodziak 2 года назад
Yes, this is to be used against a backspin ball. Against a topspin ball you can use a similar stroke (topspin), but your bat should start higher and go forwards, rather than up. Your bat angle will be more closed and the contact will be more over the top of the ball, rather than up the back of the ball.
@riccardoscotton5371
@riccardoscotton5371 2 года назад
Dear Tom I would like to make some comments. In another video you admit that the backhand loop is a "sore point" not only for you, but for most of low level and intermediate players, so it could be a good idea to develop this concept in another two videos at least that could be very useful for your many followers. 1) I noticed that you provide us many examples of backhand loops, multiball training like this, but the opening action starts only when the ball is quite long, that is easier. Very often, during a real match, a good defender plays short balls and force the attacker in long pushes courses rallies that usually ends with an error of the attacker. Could you please teach us how to open a short ball, with heavy underspin effect? I guess the key from the attacker point of view could be try to force long pushes until a long ball comes and then attack it with a loop. But it is not easy at all, especially during the stress of a match. One video with tips and drills to overcome this mental and technical point could be welcomed by you. 2) Some players says the it is easier to open with a backhand loop if you use short pimples rubber, that is a sort of trick for being less sensible to underspin effect. Could you explain in practice this concept? Is there in your club a player with short pimples rubber that is available to show us this tecnique? Could you suggest us some training drills useful also in this case? Thank you very much for your attention.
@TomLodziak
@TomLodziak 2 года назад
You raise many interesting points here. Let me have a think about this. I often cover this when I'm coaching others, but I'll need to work out how to make it into a video tutorial.
@riccardoscotton5371
@riccardoscotton5371 2 года назад
@@TomLodziak Thank for your answer and your efforts to make tennistable more and more enjoyable and understandable to your many fans and followers.
@ElloRadis
@ElloRadis 3 года назад
Who use left and right hand
@ElloRadis
@ElloRadis 3 года назад
I do it
@chiconium
@chiconium 2 года назад
@@ElloRadis poor thing no one replies to u
@RobertoCostas
@RobertoCostas 2 года назад
I do it too. It's very useful.
@kenji2787
@kenji2787 2 года назад
I don’t know if the blocking guy is messing up purposely. Otherwise, SH has really horrible blocks. Any shot to the middle and he’s completely helpless. I thought that’s only a problem with beginners. I am a beginner penholder looking to switch to SH and I think those balls are slow enough (like practice mode) to block with TBP.
@sanjaydevit502
@sanjaydevit502 2 года назад
Is everyone here to dominate the office or is it just me ?
@systumm_hr26_
@systumm_hr26_ 3 года назад
First
@yunghanhuang8188
@yunghanhuang8188 2 года назад
sound quality could be improved
@marci6154
@marci6154 3 года назад
Magyarul nem csinálsz egy ugyan ilyet?
@paragontabletennis8555
@paragontabletennis8555 3 года назад
Talán egyszer, de nem hiszem, hogy lenne rá közönségem. :)
@torocsikm89
@torocsikm89 3 года назад
Na jó, bojler.
@RanjeetKumar-zi7ne
@RanjeetKumar-zi7ne 3 года назад
Ferenc Horvarth is Very cute 🌈🌈🌈👌👌👌💐💐👍👍
@winglow7615
@winglow7615 3 года назад
Very few people know how to do back hand. You are no exception. First, you are stiff. Second, your left foot should be forward. Third, your backswing should be straight down your left side and part with a side spin. Fourth, you must follow through as though you are hitting a gold ball. Enough for now. As they say, just have fun.
@badbreathdunghead2683
@badbreathdunghead2683 2 года назад
by the way , his posture doesnt look pretty lol anyway i enjoyed it keep the good work
@ricardopinto4249
@ricardopinto4249 6 месяцев назад
Looks awful, so stiff 😅 Looping backhand is a beauty and powerful 😊
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