5 Unexplained Mysteries From Every Pokémon Generation - Johto 

I’d just like to add a key point in the legendary beasts theory that no poke tuber has brought up yet. In Pokémon crystal, before your battle with suicune, you battle a trio of sages. All three have a Noctowl and one of the three original eevee-lutions. I believe that the noctowl is there to represent ho oh and the eevee-lution represents one of the beasts.

11:58 I think I remember Giovanni being Silver's dad was foreshadowed in Fire Red. A grunt says something like "Are you Giovanni's son? No, his son has red hair..."

12:15 Red hair and a hand-me-down Pokémon? He must be a Weasley.

The unown are letters. Letters write code. Which creates everything in the game.

The legendary beasts were definitely 3 Bidoofs that died in the fire

"Created by people from both Sinnoh and Johto" *Sinjoh* _Hmmmm_ *_HMMMMMMMMM_*

I miss jerk rivals, after silver they’ve gotten progressively stupid and weak. I miss that oh shit moment when your rivals music started playing and you knew you were in for a boss fight.

Maybe the Legendary Beasts original forms were their Beta designs(Rai, Sui, & En)? In Pokemon Origins, they looked like sleek, dog-like Pokemon. Just like the Beta designs!

It’s simple, Kris committed tax fraud like yoshi

Homie script his video like he's trying to reach a word limit on an essay

Kris was the first female character to be introduced but she was introduced in Pokemon Crystal not in gold or silver. OG gold and silver don't have a female protagonist and that's my theory of why they created Lyra

I think mysteries are a good thing, because when game companies starts revealing the answers to every question in the game lore, that is usualy a sign that the franchise is coming to an end.

“We don’t know where they come from other then Sinnoh and Johto” He just answered his own question “We don’t know where the ruins are located” “They are north of Johto”

*Sees Kris in Pokemon Masters* Okay now I have a reason to mess with that game.

Maybe Silver's mother is your mother. She has red hair as well and it would make him your half brother, so it would be huge for the plot/universe.

We never got to know about Janine, Koga’s daughter as she wasn’t mentioned in Red, Blue & Yellow or the Kanto remakes either but I suppose the true story about Janine is NOT a mystery? Oh and what about the building site in Vermillion City? Why after 3 years has it not been half done or complete but left alone this whole time? This got me worried now because I wanted to know what the building would look like in future remakes.

as a dude i loved playing as Kris. i thought her character design was cool af and the remakes did us dirty in that aspect

The name Ariana in Welsh means Silver.

I've always thought Lorelei could be Silver's mother. Mostly based around the fact that he always has a Sneasel/ Weavile and the they share a hair color. (This was all before Pokémon D/P though)

Here's a theory: The three mystery pokemon that became Entai, Suicune and Raikou are the same species of pokemon as Zacian and Zamazenta

What about Bellsprout Tower? First time I played it I was expected a Giant Bellsprout to come out at the top.

part of me thinks Kris was replaced so that they could tie the anime in with the remakes, because Lyra traveled with ash and co for a bit

I do believe that the three legendary beast were once Vaporeon, Flareon, and Jolteon. Do to the fact that the three Eevee evolution's abilities are the same as the the three legendary beast's hidden ability.

Diamond and Pearl remake with an event that explains all about the connection between Arceus and Unknown and allows you to travel between the two regions in the post game

Silver's mother is one of the team rocket executives

I wish they had kept Kris in the remakes :( Crystal was my first game so she is special to me. But Lyra is really cute and grew on me as well.

We didn’t find out silver was Giovanni’s son in hgss. I knew that when I played Pokémon Crystal. That would’ve been during the advance era. Edit: they mentioned it in the Pokémon manga and in FRLG. I bet there was more too. Either way, it was way before HGSS.

Silver being Giovanni’s son was actually revealed in FRLG during the post game.

Theory, your mom in heartgold soul silver is Silvers mom as well, and you are half brothers

I'm really said that Hoenn hasn't really gotten much from the ruin lore side of the pokeverse story. Most other regions have had a decent amount of interest given to that aspect. ORAS did give us the backstory for the Primal forms and Mega Rayquaza, but nothing really for ruins and such.

I prefer Kris more than Lyra. She seems to be more of a Pokemon trainer than Lyra, and is more beautiful (to me, of course)

I like to imagine the beta designs for Suicune/Entei/Raikou as being what they looked like before they were revived.

My guess on the first one is the fact that her name was based on pokemon Crystal so they changed the character to keep fans from expecting a third remake.

For the beast trio: I highly doubt it was the eeveelutions. A fire type and water type dying in a fire? Something about that that doesn’t click. Plus it’s said that they got the typing from ho oh to represent lightning fire and rain of the burning tower

Kris was my favorit female first character!!! When I started getting into pokemon, the first pokemon game Iv ever played was Crystal and she was the person I was introduced!

My theory is that the Unown are archetypes of a deeply-rooted language and code. Think of sigils and runes. They are symbols that can invoke certain powers and energies. String them together in the right way and you can summon different abilities. Also, like runes, they double as a language. Since they work so closely with Arceus, they likely manifest creation power and can function as a sort of genetic code. They string together like DNA and can manifest things. They have the potential to create and rework the fabric of reality, but only under the right circumstances. Thats what I think.

I honestly think that Kris' hair being blue was part of why she was cut. With Crystal being the first game to show off colors, kris' hair being blue seemed like part of showing off that new color capability. Color is a lot more standardized in games by the time of the remakes, and Kris' blue might have looked clashing and out of place as a protagonist child character.

Lorelei could be Silver's mother, as well^^ red hair :P

Two of my favorite poketubers release videos about Johto on the same day? Coincidence? I THINK NOT

I love the Sinjoh Ruins so much, theyre just so mysterious!! I just hate that i missed the event Arceus to go there. My favorite part and mystery of any game by FAR. Hope they cover a bit in the Diamond and Pearl remakes

about the lengendary beast: gamefreak sorta off "feeds" the theory of the eeveelutions. colour palet aside, the hidden abilities of each beast is the sae normal ability of its eeveelution counterpart

The only mystery I want to find out about, is the name of the golbat near the end🤔

There's also a mention of Silver being Giovanni's son in Fire Red/ Leaf Green. One of the grunts you face asks if your character is Giovanni's son, then states that his son has red hair. Personally I always thought Silver was his kid, which is why I always gave him an Italian name

Can't wait to see Arcues creating the world

I never thought about who was Silver's mom until I played the Rocket Edition hack. It seems logical that Ariana is his mom.

Really loving this series already! I don’t tend to revisit the older games anymore, so ya gal is full of nostalgia rn 😩💕

The animated film ‘Pokemon the Movie: I Choose You’ explains that Raikou, Entei and Suicune take on those types because those are the elements surrounding their deaths. The lightning that struck the building, the fire that destroyed the building and the rain that extinguished the fire. Ho-Oh resurrected them so they could roam the world and protect other Pokemon from such fates.

my theory on why Kris was replaced with Lyra is probably because of Lyra's fairly recent debut in an episode of the Diamond and Pearl anime, my guess is that Kris was swapped out because most of the new and younger players who never played the original Gen 2 games were less likely to know who Kris was, but would instantly recognize Lyra as soon as they started playing HeartGold and SoulSilver especially if they watched the anime around the time of the episode's airing.

I have the head cannon that the Legendaries beasts were the original Eeveelution trio. It just fits perfectly for the area and how there was the emphasis on the new Eeveelutions in that Gen. And the move and typing seeming like needed up versions of them But the Unown need more explanation! I like the designs and so curious about they're origins!

What would be interesting is if Gen 9 or a future Pokemon region is Sinjoh, which allows players to(among other things) explore their ruins such as the ones in the HG/SS event where you can receive a Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina at level 1.

In the HGSS manga Crys changes her design to resemble Lyra so I think it’s less of a replacement and more of a hair style change and pallet swap. Or maybe to resemble an older looking trainer?

I guess we are taught to fear the Unknown when we're kids for a reason.

I spent an eternity catching all the "letters". I was convinced something would happen if I did.

Honestly, the legend of the legendary beasts is one of my favorite Pokemon legends.

3:29 It's not completely impossible. They retro-actively gave Green a (and may it be minor) role in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, so the same may happen for Kris in a eventual "Let's Go Crystal", given we will likely get new playable characters once again.

This is just something I came up right now, but I think the reason Lyra replaced Kris was because Kris didn't fit the aesthetic they were going for. If you look at Kris's attire, it's not really the same style Ethan has going for him. I'll also point out that it was stated that Giovanni had a red haired kid in FireRed/LeafGreen...and there aren't exactly many redheads in the Kanto/Johto area.

I always thought jolteon, flareon, and vaporeon had similarities to the legendary dogs, but I never really connected it any further.

Actually I just noticed something in pokemon Sword and Sheild when you take a close look at the words you will see that the letters actually look very simaler to the actual pokemon form of the unknown

Giovanni being Silver's father wasn't revealed in HGSS. It was actually revealed in FRLG. I recall talking to someone or reading some record on one of the Sevii Islands mentioning that

At 13:41 that sign looked like it said orgy. I got confused for a second there.

if i had to pick one question to get fully revealed in gen 2.. would porb be the eeveelutions.. although the unknown one is very tempting

In the manga, Kris and Lyra are *one* character as Crystal, they even had Chikorita (she swapped to Lyra's outfit in HGSS arc when they are about to encounter Arceus). Pokemon Masters preserved manga personality of Kris which is interested in ecology while Lyra enjoys friendly walks, a reference to HGSS walking feature with Pokemon. Kris was known as Marina in the Pokemon Chronicles: Legend of Thunder, together with Jimmy/Ethan while Lyra appeared in a promotional episode of HG/SS during D/P saga as she travels with two other anime-only Johto characters.

Uh, I'm pretty sure somewhere, maybe a 2000s pokemon movie or something, it says the 3 pokemon were a flareon, jolteon, and vaporeon.

I hate that the main character of SS & HG changed. But im pretty sure they changed the rival because he seemed to much like a “bully” if I recall correctly.

The Arceus and Unown mystery really intrigues me, and I would love to know how they are related.

Damn, now that I think about it arianna is perfectly suited to be silver's mom. nice one

Id like to know the indentity of the three legendary dogs. They were some of my favorite legendaries

When I was younger, before I had internet, I wondered for the longest how amazing it was that they translated Japanese unknown to English characters and wanted to see what they looked like in Japanese lol

Knowing the identity of the legendary beasts would be cool, but I'm more of a fan of character back stories. That's why I'd like to know about Silver.

The thing is, Lyra and Kris are pretty much the same person tho, just updated. They have the exact same role in the game, they just implemented it better so that the character could exist when the protagonist was the other one. Not unlike how Leaf is technically Blue/Green. There wasn't a female protag in Gen 1, but there were plans and designs for one. They changed her outfit and appearance a little bit more and only ever recently gave her some backstory in LGPE. But still, same character. For the Legendary Beasts, even if not officialy, it has already been solved too. The Beta shows us 3 sprites of "Rai, En and Sui" and in some kind of internal joke, those poor poor designes were killed off and revived as Raikou, Entei and Suicune.

Given the similarities in their design, I'm inclined to believe Lyra started out as an updated Kris, but somewhere along the line her design was altered so much that it was felt she no longer looked enough like the original character and so was renamed. As for why they might have altered the design so much in the first place, maybe it was just to emphasize that these were Gold/Silver remakes, whereas Kris's blue coloration (not to mention name) were always very clearly inspired by her debuting in Ceystal. It could also maybe be a similar case to how the female protagonist of the gen-1 remakes was changed to Leaf, with a look inspired by but clearly distinct from the counterpart character in the manga.

What about 10% Zygard? It looks very similar to the pokemon that died in the fire, and Ho-Oh could have powered them up by adding an element to them that represented their deaths. Electric for the lightning that started it all, Fire for the tragedy, and Water for what could've helped

On the whole Chris/Lyra issue...to be fair, I never knew the first female trainer avatar had a proper name. I mean, you could either choose her name from a few selections or give her your own. Same with the rival. You meet him as ???. But you name him after you talk to a law enforcement official after an incident at Oak’s lab. I played the OG silver and crystal on GBC but I think my sibs played the at least one of the DS remakes and I geeked out over them! Granted not enough to see the finer details like the name/character changes between the two products.

Fantastic series! Love your channel :D

I feel like Crys was the first example of a trend Pokemon would continue, where they change the design or player character entirely in the enhanced/remake of the same region, Hilbert and Hilga to Nate and Rosa, Red and Green to Chase and Elaine, etc. While for the Ruins of Alph, I think the interest for it is b/c it's an unanswered mystery and I believe that's the intention, hence it's the home of the Unown

Talking about Silver's parents >Go! BatWank!

Maybe it is the legendary dogs pre evolution? They died in the fire, ho oh revived them and they evolved from the horrifying experience they had just been through.

I'd like to know more about the Sinjoh ruins and the Ruins of Alph. The Unown mystery fascinates me!

Even back even I was playing OG Silver I thought Silver was Giovanni's son. I didn't know that wasn't a well known thing.

Sinjoh Ruins was kind of a cheat as it's not technically part of Johto, although it's not like you had a better place to mention it. For now I'm referring to it as being part of the Sinjoh Region an area based on the areas of the real world Tohoku & Northern Chubu regions of Japan. 1 of my regrets of Pokemon Let's Go was that they kept entirely to the Kanto Region of Japan with a few exceptions. Pallet Town, Route 1, Route 22, Route 23, Victory Road, & Indigo Plateau are all in Japan's Chubu Region which in the Pokemon Games is split into the Kanto, Johto, & Sinjoh regions. I had hopes we would be able to explore the Johto & Sinjoh Regions in them this time 2 years ago. I'm sure we all had that desire to walk through anywhere through anything in Heart Gold or Soul Silver & just keep going North from Pewter City or Blackthorn City to try to find the Sinjoh Ruins. Also for another part of Japan we never got to explore in Pokemon there's the Chugoku Region which is the area to the west of Olivine. Interestingly most of the Johto Region is Chubu with Ecruteak, Olivine, & Cianwood Cities being in the Kansai Region of real world Japan. However a different division of regions from the usual splits the Johto parts of Kansai & combines them with parts of Chubu to form the Tokai Region of Japan. Tokai & Koshin'etsu region by that same way of dividing Honshu combine to form Johto as we know it. Of course Kanto of PokeEarth kind of steals some of that Koshin'etsu/Chubu region. Perhaps someday we'll get to see those 2 Japan based regions we never got based on Chugoku & Tohoku?

I'm assuming he didn't include the GS ball because most people are agreed it contains a Celebi?

Arcanine was a legendary at one point in Kanto. So if he was created with different variations in type. That could lead into ho-oh reviving them into better forms. I could see this working since the legendary birds are getting new variations.

I always figured that the three nameless Pokemon that died and were brought back were three Eevee; since it is no secret that Eevee's genetic code is highly unstable, and could therefore be mutated well beyond ordinary Eeveelutions, and instead be transformed entirely into legendary Pokemon.

Thank you for talking about the Kris/Lyra issue. I liked Kris for being the first female protagonist, I needed Crystal version for that purpose. I was so off-put having to play Lyra.

13:38 deff thought the sign said "orgy"

I just had surgery and woke up a bit ago. Best thing is seeing hoops came out with another video. God I love his videos. Favorite poketuber by far

3:16 I still remember walking in circles in those same patches of grass as a kid and encountering a wild Entei for the first time.

Its just a theory but the ring around arceus middle looks like an unknown which could make the unknown arceus many arms

Let’s Go Jhoto needs to overlap with the Sinnoh remakes so we can learn more about the Sinjo relationship

I think it's already been said, but I'm fairly certain that Kris was replaced because they HeartGold and SoulSilver were not remakes of Pokemon Crystal. Remakes can have different things happen based on the game. I know this isn't the best example, but Game freak treats let's go Pikachu and Let's go Eevee as separate games from FireRed and LeafGreen, because they were based off Pokemon Yellow. Either that, or they just wanted to shove Kanto down our throats some more. Either way this is just my opinion.

I’ve never played gold or silver, but by far Kris was my favorite player character (design wise) pre-customization. The blue on the design just worked really well for her sprite. Also, her being the first female character was a huge thing for Pokémon. Lyra is great too, though 🤷🏽‍♀️

One thing I think you forgot to mention: the tower in West Johto, the place where the Hoenn legendaries can be found

Damn, nice vid I didn’t even know about the whole SinJoh thing.

Screw the eeveelutions for the beasts. The original forms were their beta designs which were then changed to the beasts we know today lol.

Kris was replaced because she had too much distinct characteristics, much different than Ethan's. If you notice, every male and female protagonists from generation 3 and onwards are very similar to each other, in a way that they can be considered as the male and female versions of the same person. Lyra resembles the female version of Ethan while Kris does not.

BatWank is my new favourite pokemon - Sully

Okay, well what about Cerulean Cave? Me personally, I played the absolute fuck out of GSC and every time I'd go to Cerulean, I'd instinctively go to the cave, which you can still swim to, only to be met by a guy standing there saying that it's "under construction" because of Mewtwo presumably. So the question then is, what happened to the cave? Why is it under construction? Did Red ever catch Mewtwo? Like, there's a lot of things that could have been built off that, but it didn't come up in this video

Thanks for your guys reception... I hadn't watch the kanto one, but sure I will now

Lyra was introduced to the pokemon diamond and pearl series, shortly after the remakes were announced. Maybe she was popular in the anime

The three Legendary Beasts probably aren't even their original types ( not to mention all three have the same silhouette wich definitely don't look like evee ). I heard somewhere that when they were resurrected they were given those types as symbolism ; Raikou is the Lightning that struck the tower , Entei is the fire that burnt the tower and Suicoune was the rain that put out the fire