5 WAYS To Setup A TALKBACK MIC For LIVE BANDS - Complete Guide

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In this video, we are discussing all of the options on how to setup a Talkback Mic for your band. A talkback mic is a very valuable way to be able to communicate with the musicians on stage without the audience hearing. In this video, I'm going over 5 different ways to setup a talkback mic from the easiest to the most advanced.
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@MrChuckbackus Год назад

You teach very well, Scott. You're presenting some very complex information - but you do it clearly and concisely. Thanks for that.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks! That last one I was wondering if it was too confusing haha

@livasmusic Месяц назад

Thank you for sharing your lifetime work!

@chriss2452 10 месяцев назад

Amazing content on your channel! Very useful. I definitely like the hot shot option best. I'd like for everyone in the band to have that option for internal communication.

@AndyGeroldMusic 4 месяца назад

Excellent!

@Bobby_Uterus Месяц назад

This is a great channel man! You are very good with your explanations and examples. Learned a few things. Thanks! Keep up the videos!

@aaronl7669 5 месяцев назад

fantastic tips!

@paullongden-musician7113 Год назад

Excellent material as always. Thank you Scott.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks Paul 🤘

@darrylday30 Год назад

Soooo helpful.

@isiahwilliams4646 6 месяцев назад

Dope! Thanks

@themullett Год назад

Love the free education, Scott. Great video as always

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks Shaun 🤘

@milesautointeriors3943 Год назад

Great video Scott. Definitely useful information and great ideas. 👍

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it 🤘

@tarafernandes9382 Год назад

Excellent video and brilliant tip on EQing the talk back - thanks again.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Glad to help! That EQ trick is definitely helpful!

@KristohanongBisdakMusic Год назад

Been contemplating on this for our band, perfect timing. Thanks for this useful content. ❤

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

It’s helped us out a lot for sure 🤘

@kevinperry3639 Год назад

Good to know information. Great video, thanks 🤘

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

🤘🤘

@ChaosDP Год назад

Great tips! My band is preparing for live shows with in-ears so this will be a big help.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Right on, it definitely helps!

@delbosdrums Год назад

This channel is pure gold. Scott, thanks for sharing this information, new subscriber here and thumbs up to all your videos. Keep it up.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thank you! For subscribing and the great comment 😊

@shawnkichta7076 Год назад

Great info as usual! I'm just doing solo work at the moment, but this is definitely useful information for my future. The MIDI bit also gave me great ideas for my looping rig. 👍

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Get a talkback mic and talk to yourself during the show 😅😅😂 But yeah the midi stuff has been very helpful for my live looping for sure

@cletusrobinson Год назад

I purchased a ProCo Panic Button to setup my microphone for talkback with my QSC TM16. The great thing about the Panic Button is it has 4 switches inside that let it be customized to latch or temporary when the footswitch is depressed. It works well!!!

@SSSColorado Год назад

Killin it, as usual.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks Skinny 🤘🤘

@dlcarburetor Год назад

This is really good stuff. Very creative

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks!

@4cooldog99 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for this information!

@ScottUhlMusic 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@hany-tawfik 7 месяцев назад

Great video!

@ScottUhlMusic 7 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@Txtalley Год назад

Yes perfect timing. My new project is moving some of the musicians to IEMs and this will help out

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Awesome!

@musiqsoundsproductions 3 месяца назад

Cool topic! Some of the old Shure Unidyne 515 mics have a momentary switch.

@gregfishy Год назад

Hey Scott.... thanks for the Vid.... after your explanations i did it with M-Wave Chocolate Pedal and the wireless midi adapater on X32-RACK...works like charm!!!! Rock on! Greg

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Nice! Glad it’s working! I actually got one of those as well. It’s a pretty cool device. It disconnects from my iPad occasionally so just a heads up. The Widi master has been super solid 👍

@GilCruzxab 5 месяцев назад

The foot switch is a great idea, never thought about that, my drummer always complains about the Talk Back mic being on all the time, thanks man!

@ScottUhlMusic 5 месяцев назад

Yeah it works very well!

@MarkMensahsarfo 2 месяца назад

After improving my audio mixing skills, I came back several months later and found this super helpful. I finally subscribed and liked it.

@ScottUhlMusic 2 месяца назад

Thank you! 🙏

@emersontanakamotion Год назад

Great video! the good thing about a switch is that you can have for all musicians to communicate each other...

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

So true!

@Mr_A_Mia Год назад

The Forrest Gump talkback gif had me LOL. Great video again here Scott✌🏾

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

That was my favorite one 😅

@lukelissenberg 10 месяцев назад

I’m glad I’m not the only one obsessed with a clean stage lol, I now control my pedalboard and tracks with an MC6 Pro (with a power bank and a WIDI Jack). You blew my mind with your idea to switch talkback channels with midi, I’m totally going to try that!

@ScottUhlMusic 10 месяцев назад

It’s the best way to do it 🤘🤘🤘

@christophedesbouchages1527 Год назад

Hi Scott, thank you for this very good explanation of talk back and its using. You pointed something that I'm thinking since a while and I do not have any solution. I'm a dummer and I also perform some choirs. I'm thinking on a mean to cut my mike thanks to Stage Traxx 3 and midi, to avoid the drum feedback as maximum as possible. With my band, I'm the only one who is using IEM and I have my own mixer (analog one). If you know something magic... :) See you

@BigHugeYES 7 месяцев назад

Using a supercardioid as a talkback can also help with reducing bleed. Our drummer runs our talkback and we use a Shure Beta 56A mic to reduce bleed.

@bscheirman Год назад

Rolls makes good stuff. I use a Rolls Mic Switch for my main recording mic for Screencasting / zoom meetings. Very nice to be able to hardware mute.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Yup! Rolls is awesome, and makes stuff affordable and well built 👍

@bryanwhite1028 9 месяцев назад

I am 1:30 into the video and it's already great. I know that you'll cover what I want to know, but you didn't spend the first ten minutes explaining that I should do the thing that I was searching to do. Now, on with the rest of the video.

@LuiscitoEnChina 3 месяца назад

Nice video as usual Scott. We use a separated TB mic for our beerfest gigs for the drummer and bass player. I use a little pedal board which has a spark mini booster, an EQ mini pedal for cutting the bass freqs and an ABY minipedal switcher. The mic is connected to that board and the ouput goes directly to a wired in ear Behringer P2 for the drummer. The other output of the ABY is empty making it work as an onn off switch, it works very good! After watching your video I will try the midi setup next time! I have to get a second widi and a midi baby 3. Awesome pedal, About the midi power. I guess midi always use at least 3v of power that is why those pedals need power supply. 😊 For your rack midi ports of the X32 you can use some mini male to female midi extenders. I really enjoy your tutorials! Thanks for your videos muchacho ! They are always very informative and direct to the point! Congrats!

@ScottUhlMusic 3 месяца назад

Oh nice! Yeah the midi is great, but if something else works well, then that’s what’s important. I’ve wanted to try those adapters to see if they work. I tried one and it didn’t send the power needed to power the WIDI was the only thing

@dougonutube Год назад

Really useful real-world insights, as usual. One thought, if you don't have the luxury of a dedicated mixer channel for the talkback mic (eg X-air series mixers etc) you could maybe use the Midi method to cut the main vocal mic from LR bus, so you can then talk directly to your band (who all have at least some lead vocal in their in-ear mixes!) - you won't get the different EQ that you mention, but at least you don't need a dedicated channel.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks! But If you don’t have a mixer, how would you be able to send the midi?

@tsoropas 5 месяцев назад

Very good job. I love your channel. There is one more option to mute the talkback mic: use a GATE to it,if you have digital console and make it OPEN at a specific volume level. We use it all the time at our live gigs

@ScottUhlMusic 5 месяцев назад

Oh nice! That’s smart

@HenryResidence Год назад

Thanks Scott! I have this pedal to split the mic and it works really well (includes an LED so that you know what channel you are on)...and the price is great - but you order from Australia so it takes about 6 weeks to arrive.... Loopi microphone A/B switch pedal (reverb has them for $53 + shipping).

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Oh nice! Thanks for sharing this 🤘

@christianboddum8783 Год назад

I've had throat cancer and have no need for shouting to communicate, talkback mic is the way to go, it would be even without this challenge ;-) It looks a little funky having two mic stands/mics, one for song one for talkback, but it works!!

@MusicmanmarkUk Год назад

Really helpful - as always. I need to get your obsession with a clean stage 😂

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

It’s definitely quite the obsession 😅

@MichaelDaniels Месяц назад

I love the idea of hot shot or the rolls to turn on TalkBack. Is there a way to bring all 4 microphones into one XLR out to the mixing board? Thanks for your video

@ScottUhlMusic Месяц назад

Thanks! You would need one Hot Shot for each mic, that would be the best way to do 4 of them 👍

@BeforeAndAfterScience Год назад

I'm old. I'm never gonna be in a band. But I watch the hell out of these.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Haha thanks for watching! 🤘

@germanaisemberg7057 2 месяца назад

Hi Scott, thanks for this useful video (as always! ;-)) that's ok for the Band Leader to talk to musicians during shows... but what about setting ambiant mics in rehearsal not to have to take in-ear off each time we want to talk to each others ? I've seen your other video with integrated mics ear buds but that's not accessible for me right now... Do you have an advice?

@ScottUhlMusic 2 месяца назад

Thanks! And yeah, having microphones setup for rehearsals is a huge help. I just did that at a rehearsal last night, it was great! Kept my ears in the whole time and just talked to each other with our mics 🤘

@OfFormerFame Год назад

I rigged up a clever solution for this the other day. I’m using Reaper to run a click, backing tracks, and live synths. So I set up a channel in Reaper with a simple synth program that reads a simple MIDI note. The MIDI item is set up to play during each song, but not in between. Then I’m using a Omni reference mic on channel 16. And I use the MIDI synth via USB into channel 15. And I use the synth sound as a side chain on the Omni mic to activate a gate. So as long as that synth is playing a note the room mic is muted. The straight MIDI to the X32 option to mute/unmute the mics is an interesting idea to try out.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Wow, that’s really interesting! Very cool 🤘

@OfFormerFame Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic I switched over to MIDI control today. I hadn’t realized it was an option until your video. :) The alt input with ducker still might be useful in some way but for now the MIDI is a little cleaner. Thanks for your awesome videos!

@solmariemeza5130 4 месяца назад

This is amazing and useful information. I bought the radial hotshot md1 and every time I step on the switch there’s a loud pop. I’ve installed it correctly. Do you know how I can fix that? We use an analog console.

@ScottUhlMusic 4 месяца назад

Yeah we had that problem like twice when we used it… really odd. It only happened at those shows no, not other shows. I’m not really sure why it does that.

@BoDiddly 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the small tips! 🤣 I too enjoy a clean stage! I can't tell you how often I or someone else has tripped over a cord and taken out mics, stands or instruments, usually at the worst possible moment!

@ScottUhlMusic 11 месяцев назад

Clean stage is one of my biggest goals with performing lol

@BoDiddly 11 месяцев назад

@@ScottUhlMusic I think going wireless with everything is the best thing since sliced bread 😁

@fredimachadonet Год назад

Hey Scott, thanks for your content! Do you use crowd mics to get more connected to the audience? Maybe another content idea? :D Cheers!

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

I personally don’t. I played one show where we had one and it was nice, but I personally didn’t find it completely necessary. Although most bands I play in have multiple singers so there is quite a bit of room noise let in already

@edburdo 2 месяца назад

Scott - How about the Midi Captain One (as a single button, midi switch). Doesn't use batteries though... still needs power. Takes a barrel jack for this one. They also have a Duo model... but still the same power issue. I've seen some "build your own circuits" for single midi buttons... then you can build them to use batteries... but it's definitely a DIY approach.

@ScottUhlMusic 2 месяца назад

Nice, that would work too! I got a mini 9v power adapter and attach a 9v battery to my midi baby. It works well

@danwiggins6947 9 месяцев назад

Can you use a splitter cable for the talkback channel so two boxes can be used for two separate mics

@ScottUhlMusic 9 месяцев назад

I’m not sure I understand how you are planning to set that up…

@retrobutionband1147 7 месяцев назад

With Mixing Station, you can make a momentary button that turns LR off so you can talkback.

@ScottUhlMusic 7 месяцев назад

Oh nice! I didn’t know that. Can you control it with midi? Although, I don’t want to mute everything, we almost always talkback during a song to change what comes next though

@retrobutionband1147 7 месяцев назад

I have easy access to MixingStation on stage so I can push the Talk button that turns bright red, letting me know it isn't going to FOH.😊 I use a trick similar trick to use one channel for click (USB input for us) and talkback (old wireless mic). It toggles between USB and analog in.

@ZaVic12 Год назад

Question: how do i connect and or configure the talkback mic from a stage box?

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

What do you mean? The process should be basically the same as I go over in this video, unless I’m misunderstanding the question?

@ortegaman 8 месяцев назад

8:09 I got this radial switch last week and tried to use it at an event on weekend but it made a very loud pop noise every time it gets back to main channel (ch1). Just saying this for all the people to have this in mind because it will happen and you need to have this in mind.

@ScottUhlMusic 8 месяцев назад

That’s interesting… we didn’t have that problem. But good to know, thanks for sharing 👍

@indranura123 10 месяцев назад

Can i implementing the midi setup for my xair16? How is the midi setup in the mixing station app?

@ScottUhlMusic 10 месяцев назад

You can do it on the xair yes 👍 the behringer xair just automatically receives midi commands without having to enable it like on the 32

@deannawilson3421 Год назад

Hi Scott, thank you so much for this video. At my church I sing lead while leading the worship team, and I coordinate with the musicians for the flow of the set. They are sometimes I wish I could give cues to the musicians only while leading and this has helped to start in the right direction. Only thing is, I’m not usually stationary on stage, so the toggle peddle seems great, but don’t know how I would manage. Just yesterday, before this video, I was thinking of attaching a wireless lapel mic to my shirt as a talkback and sing with the wireless handheld for the house. Would that be a good option or would the sound be too muddy for the musicians?

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

That could work too… It will just always be going to their ears and might not be very clear. It’s worth a try, but I am 50/50 if that would work. The Axient Digital has a mic switch that allows you to push a button on the mic to switch the output to a second output, but that’s seriously like a $10k system. I wish someone else would figure out a way to do that for much cheaper. There would be a market for it

@deannawilson3421 Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you so much for the feedback 🙏🏽

@luisweezy Год назад

Hey Scott. I own a xtone xsonic pro. Is there a way I can use this pedal board to program midi talkback with XR18?

@martincarlin1987 Год назад

On the topic of making the midi baby battery powered, what about using one of the iPad apps you’ve covered to send the midi commands instead? Might not be very practical though if you need a mixing app and backing track app running simultaneously, unless it’s possible to have them all open side by side.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

I actually just found the obvious adapter cable for a 9v battery haha so it works now. I did try the app, but definitely a foot controller works better. But the app would definitely work as well!

@martincarlin1987 Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic oh yeah, forgot about those adapters, nice solution!

@jameswhite9300 Год назад

Scott I have a question unrelated to the video. Will I be okay having three wireless IEM’s on a Shure PA411 combiner and a Sennheiser g4 935 wireless mic in the same rack?

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Yeah, that definitely will be fine 👍

@jameswhite9300 Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic dude, thanks for the quick reply! Your channel basically built my band’s IEM system haha. Love your videos. Keep it up ❤️

@InpersonaVyvo Год назад

Crazy was just thinking about this yesterday ... you read my mind LOL Great Info as always. Hey did you do the draw for the Stage Traxx winners by any chance ?

@KristohanongBisdakMusic Год назад

He did. In fact, I'm one of the winners. Thanks to Scott and Peter. ❤

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Thanks for watching! :) and yes, I did the drawing on my stories 🤘

@InpersonaVyvo Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic how do I watch stories ??

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

@@InpersonaVyvo A lot of people have been asking that... maybe I need to just do the drawing as a post on my page. I think more people see that than the do the stories. I'll probably do that next time!

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

@@InpersonaVyvo I do also respond to the comment individually as well.

@artytoney2057 Год назад

Scott do,you have a video for someone who wants to say learn how to do a simple recording for you tube ect just to know how to post a simple video of playing

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

For video recording? No not really :/ sorry

@fixrhee Год назад

In order to use the midi method i assume that you cannot use the mic splitter right ? because the mute function wont work ?

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Yeah with the midi method it’s mostly good for when you run your own sound. If I’m running sound, I use the 5th method. If we have a dedicated FOH sound guy and we use my splitter, I just use the first method 🤘

@misahel924 Год назад

I bought a cheap 4 channel mixer AND 4 lekato ms-1 recievers with one transmiter... that way our talkback system Is totally independent to our main mixer... we decided to do It that way cause we play at diferent venues AND not all the Time the audio engineer Is open to help us with our talk Back setup

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Nice!

@lennyevans4724 Год назад

I've never used this system before.. sounds great... and love the added humour about F*$&% soundguy being an A@#$%@&.. lol. .. hilarious.. and the small tip.. lol.. had lots mooostakes where guys thought they were whispering to each other on stage and the mic picked up the voices.. that was hilarious too.. lol.

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Lol yeah! I had a friend of mine who switched to a headset mic… and one of his first shows he leaned over (assuming it was away from the mic from years of using a handheld on a mic stand) and said “check out the rack on the mom that just walked in” and said it completely loud into the headset mic lol.

@lennyevans4724 Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic 😂😂😂

@user-qb1kj9kn3p 2 месяца назад

Is there any reason method 4 couldn't work with all 4 vocal mics on stage with an x32? For a group talkback, any of us could chime in. Since we have a ton of virtual channels open, we could mute the 4 live channels going to and engage the 4 linked monitor only channels. Right?

@ScottUhlMusic 2 месяца назад

Yup, you could do that 👍

@AaronDorfmanMusic Год назад

Do you think it would be possible to use a line 6 Helix pedal to send the midi command to an X32 to toggle the mute of the talkback / vocal?

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Yup definitely 👍 I have this video about sending midi: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EJ_bCKH8rmk.html

@AaronDorfmanMusic Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic thanks Scott! I watched about 10 of your videos last night, super high quality, great explanations! Thanks for all the great content!

@AaronDorfmanMusic Год назад

Do you know if the Helix can send multiple cc commands on a single foot switch press? I’d love a single foot switch toggle mute for both main vocal channel and talk back channel. ❤

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Yup it can 👍

@simonsanchez3867 Год назад

I think you missed a very effective method: you post a killswitch after the splitter to interrupt the front-of-house signal. This way you only hear the signal on the IEM's while holding the switch. I love your channel

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Oh nice! Yeah that would make sense if you are using a splitter specifically. Good idea 🤘

@simonsanchez3867 Год назад

@@ScottUhlMusic Thanx

@rokuponoc Год назад

Please help, how can i do that...my singer has one mic, and i want to give him guitar footswitch..and when he steps on it, band hears him in iem..when he steps off..he unmute his mic...we have behringer x32...please help

@simonsanchez3867 Год назад

@@rokuponoc you need a device which you install after the splitter in the front-of-house signal path of your singer. This device must have the ability to interrupt the signal via footswitch. This is pure theory, I have no idea if such a device even exists. Maybe you have to invent this thing yourself. If you have some knowledge of electronics and soldering, this should not be a problem.

@grobros Год назад

Good info, Scott. Do you have any suggestions/options for bi-directional wireless comms with the sound person? My sound person mixes wirelessly via a tablet, and doesn't want to carry a large wireless mic like Phenyx units you've reviewed. Also, I'd like to be able to communicate with her via the on-stage talk-back mic. For instance: Sound person: "This guy next to me wants to hear 'Freebird'." Me: "How badly does he want to hear it?" Sound person: "$200 badly." Me: "Tell him it's coming up next!"

@ScottUhlMusic Год назад

Hahahahah the ONLY time to play free bird :) and I don’t have much knowledge over the comm mic stuff at all, so I’m not sure. But most of them have a mute switch on the transmitter, so I would imagine almost all of them should work?

@JustAbba 9 месяцев назад

Can this be done on an analogues system?

@ScottUhlMusic 9 месяцев назад

Yes, definitely 👍

@jahvin4951 7 месяцев назад

Hey can you run this on an aux

@ScottUhlMusic 7 месяцев назад

You can run the talkback mic into whichever input on your mixer, just as long as the musicians can hear it and not the crowd 👍

@cmarex7514 2 месяца назад

Awesome info!! Have you tried the M-Vave chocolate wireless foot controller on temu? Just curious if it’ll work as a midi options on mixing station 🤔 share.temu.com/UJZIJKQ0sAA

@ScottUhlMusic 2 месяца назад

I use that to control stage Traxx and it works great! I haven’t used it with mixing station though. I haven’t used midi with mixing station actually so I’m not sure

@cmarex7514 2 месяца назад

@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you for your quick response! Great to know it worked well for you. I’m usually doing sound and playing at the same time and was thinking if it were possible to use one foot switch as a tap tempo for delay time, and possibly another switch as a talk back switcher?

@constantinosmavroyannis9409 5 месяцев назад

that proximity sensor is a good idea but the implementation is a scam and a half. 250 bucks for basically a component that every smartphone has and is dirt cheap??? thieves

@ScottUhlMusic 5 месяцев назад

It does seem a bit high priced, but might be worth it!