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5 Years After Avengers: Endgame, Marvel Is Still Struggling With Its Biggest Surprise 

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5 years later, the Marvel Avengers Endgame time jump is still its biggest mistake! In 2024, it’s probably safe to say that the MCU is in a very different place than it was in 2019. It can sometimes be a sobering experience to think back on the Infinity Saga, before every entertainment site made a cottage industry of wondering what went wrong with the MCU since. That’s not to say there wasn’t some enjoyment to be found in the likes of Marvel movies and Marvel TV shows like Spider-Man: No Way Home, Guardians Vol. 3, Loki, or other titles, but the quality of Marvel’s output and their overall reputation have suffered drastic shifts over the past five years.
What was once the most impervious franchise in blockbuster filmmaking has now found itself embattled with too many mediocre projects, all the setup for Kang the Conqueror possibly being derailed, and long overdue conversations about the poor working conditions for VFX artists.
But at least for today, we’re looking back on Avengers: Endgame itself, which was released five years ago on April 26, 2019. Specifically, we’re talking about how the film’s five-year time jump has had a bizarrely complex effect on the MCU, simultaneously adding weight and gravitas to Endgame while also being detrimental to the world-building and narrative integrity of the projects that followed.
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@GreggDafoe
@GreggDafoe Месяц назад
If Marvel is smart, the end of Deadpool & Wolverine will be them appearing on the MCU Earth right as the Avengers return everyone, implying that the reversal of the blip is what brings mutants and other non-Avengers heroes to Earth, letting them reset the MCU post-Endgame.
@lilnutty6821
@lilnutty6821 Месяц назад
OK nerd
@dickdickensen
@dickdickensen Месяц назад
​@@lilnutty6821lol
@WRDend
@WRDend Месяц назад
No. Erasing movies and shows is dumb.
@VoiceOfModernTruth
@VoiceOfModernTruth Месяц назад
@@WRDendit’s not erasing it, the mcu will die without the X-Men. Nobody gives a crap about these new Avengers.
@svenskhund3603
@svenskhund3603 Месяц назад
​@@WRDend Like it or not, they are gonna have to reboot the franchise sooner or later. The MCU can't go on without mainstay characters like Captain America, Black Panther, Iron Man and Spider-Man. It's not our fault that they didn't reboot when they had the chance with Endgame. Now we are left with them trying to squeeze whatever juice they can out of B and C-list heroes and villians.
@superjboy16
@superjboy16 Месяц назад
I'd say not taking a freaking break to research and come up with better stories after Endgame killed the MCU.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
How did endgame kill the MCU? It’s not the worst movie in the world. What did you want from endgame?
@hazman5528
@hazman5528 Месяц назад
“Endgame killed the mcu” You’re an actual clown.
@IGOBYTHENAMELOVE
@IGOBYTHENAMELOVE Месяц назад
@@daniellewis4154it’s ruined how to follow up ,. The tone was dark
@brandon_gb
@brandon_gb Месяц назад
Endgame really was the endgame
@cronixx_12
@cronixx_12 Месяц назад
of what sir?
@derp7327
@derp7327 Месяц назад
@@cronixx_12of the MCU
@kirankamat9311
@kirankamat9311 Месяц назад
wwe ​@@cronixx_12
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
So did you want endgame to be the final film of the MCU?
@peterkefalos7430
@peterkefalos7430 Месяц назад
@@daniellewis4154yes
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992 Месяц назад
Infinity War was the true end of the MCU
@andrein_501st
@andrein_501st Месяц назад
The problem is Marvel didn't do enough after endgame to make things matter like they used to in the infinity saga.
@SchmergDergen
@SchmergDergen Месяц назад
I’d say the biggest mistake of the MCU would be catering to an audience that doesn’t care.
@cryptixx1667
@cryptixx1667 Месяц назад
damn that was 5 years ago
@loslakers530
@loslakers530 Месяц назад
Crazy to think about! And Iron man was 16 years ago
@mrgoody69
@mrgoody69 Месяц назад
It's all ended within Infinity War
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
That implies that you wanted Thanos to get away with his crimes scot free and for the snap to never be reversed
@sickotapes
@sickotapes Месяц назад
@@daniellewis4154 no it was just a better movie all downhill from there
@Nicko-jv3jv
@Nicko-jv3jv Месяц назад
Also infinity war was the better movie
@hazman5528
@hazman5528 Месяц назад
You people who say “iT EnDeD wItH InFinIty WaR” are annoying AF. No, this is the fact: the infinity saga concluded officially with Avengers Endgame. And that movie was also phenomenal. Even if IW is arguably better. Stop trying to be fancy by saying it ended when Thanos won. No one in the right mind would be impressed with that take.
@hazman5528
@hazman5528 Месяц назад
@@sickotapesavengers endgame, Loki, Spider-Man NWH and Guardians 3 were all peak mcu as well. To say it’s “all” downhill isn’t 100% accurate.
@datruliverking
@datruliverking Месяц назад
Their biggest mistake was thinking we needed tv shows
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Месяц назад
Bob Chapek says hi.
@isaarif9
@isaarif9 Месяц назад
5 years is insane.
@MrEoin1986
@MrEoin1986 Месяц назад
U know what also cost the marvel universe to go down hill was not just the 5 year jump. It was also the Covid-19, the actors and warters thing and the other ceo bob cheap cutting costs for all the other projects as well
@ybc7483
@ybc7483 Месяц назад
We should have listened to Thanos😢😢😢
@tantona9315
@tantona9315 Месяц назад
Thanos was right, the 2nd time around. Why stop at 50%?
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
No. Thanos was a egotistical man who lacked empathy
@Default-gf4zf
@Default-gf4zf Месяц назад
​@@daniellewis4154 Thanos was right
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992 Месяц назад
​@@daniellewis4154Thanos was right but keep on coping.
@TheGoncas2
@TheGoncas2 Месяц назад
Time travel is, and always will be, a cheap writing hack. It nullifies all stakes.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
So did you not want the snap to be reversed then? If so then how are we supposed to get spider man back.
@leonardobroza6298
@leonardobroza6298 Месяц назад
Agreed. I've enjoyed both movies but really wished they hadn't gone down that route. It takes the weight from everything from that point onwards. Time travel and multiverse are a mistake in almost all stories and now they've trapped themselves into it.
@shadowflare7230
@shadowflare7230 Месяц назад
@@daniellewis4154 There are multiple universe and multiple spider-man. Wouldn't have been hard to just put a new one there.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
But shadowflare, people have grown very attached to the Tom holland spider man and killing off in the snap only to leave him dead permanently would just look extremely mean spirited. Plus spider man’s arc was not finished yet
@hazman5528
@hazman5528 Месяц назад
Bad take. If there’s truly “no stakes”. Then explain Tony and Natasha’s deaths? How it led to 2014 Thanos coming back in the third act? Or how it set up both Spider-Man NWH and The Loki series (both of which had stakes and consequences in their stories too) You’re not making any sense
@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit
@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit Месяц назад
How the hell it's 5 years ago.
@sr_rexalworld
@sr_rexalworld Месяц назад
To me there is only one reason. Marvel decided to change their target audience after Endgame.
@jaykin4927
@jaykin4927 Месяц назад
Marvel wasn’t smart Would have done adventures of the survivors of the snap to figure out how to undo what happen. Marvel was thinking cash and not shear great new and old comics .
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn Месяц назад
Im still a fan of Marvel
@hellydavidson7598
@hellydavidson7598 Месяц назад
The excessive number of newly introduced characters is not only boring but confusing. To summarize this into a plot like direction "endgame": Unimaginable.
@Elibbb-sx3kg
@Elibbb-sx3kg Месяц назад
After 5 years, Marvel can't make a movie that will top endgame
@the1hero182
@the1hero182 Месяц назад
Spider-Man: No Way Home & Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 were close imo
@noellezcano
@noellezcano Месяц назад
True
@DonutTPOTer
@DonutTPOTer Месяц назад
​@@the1hero182Tbf one is more so a Sony film and the other feels a bit disconnected from the MCU, like deadpool
@StickyFingerss
@StickyFingerss Месяц назад
​@@the1hero182nah
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Месяц назад
Why do you expect the beginning of their next phase to top the capstone of a decade of filmmaking?
@Somtric
@Somtric Месяц назад
Nope, it wasn't. everything was amazing and Endgame was amazing, it was the half-assed, no real plan after End Game and Ironmans death.. that is the biggest mistake from Marvel.
@dazzaboy04
@dazzaboy04 Месяц назад
It.....was......inevitable
@captaineri.223
@captaineri.223 Месяц назад
Phases 4-6 serve no purpose beyond temptation...
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992 Месяц назад
Not even that
@koredepaul125
@koredepaul125 Месяц назад
Men it was 5 years ago, really feels like a time jump
@CitizenKen1
@CitizenKen1 Месяц назад
Genuinely asking, if Infinity War and Endgame take place in 2019 and with the five-year time jump post blip does that mean their whole time heist in Endgame is happening now?
@yashwanthc1642
@yashwanthc1642 Месяц назад
Who all really thought that it was gonna re release again... But it didn't... 😭😭😭😭
@serrothrotciv4244
@serrothrotciv4244 Месяц назад
Yeah it really did end there
@G1Grimlock94
@G1Grimlock94 Месяц назад
5 years later after the blip
@shanecadden5303
@shanecadden5303 Месяц назад
Not confronting the world post endgame huge problem.
@kenchi27
@kenchi27 Месяц назад
they shouldn't had shortchanged their writers and FX team
@seiaghen
@seiaghen Месяц назад
5 years later / centuries later :D
@captaineri.223
@captaineri.223 Месяц назад
The superb nerf of the MCU Teams after the blip is everlasting and detrimental.
@zacktobin8026
@zacktobin8026 Месяц назад
How have they not made any movies or tv shows that take place during the five years?
@Adarsh1.0___
@Adarsh1.0___ Месяц назад
5 Years Later
@Se777enthLevel
@Se777enthLevel Месяц назад
Can they make movies that will top EndGame?...Yes! Don't forget Marvel Vs DC era, and other eras, it doesn't have to be chronological order to make a great movie unless they're hell bent on telling a story with the movies coming forward
@lilnutty6821
@lilnutty6821 Месяц назад
Do you know that these aren't real movies? They're for kids and dumb adults
@akshayhn8046
@akshayhn8046 Месяц назад
The biggest surprises are Villain's victory and favorite heros dissappearing one by one Infinity war > Endgame
@captaineri.223
@captaineri.223 Месяц назад
Tf do still feel the effects of a fictional comic book convention movie.
@keijijohnson9754
@keijijohnson9754 Месяц назад
Quite a contradictory mistake on your end titling this as one yet the thumbnail says otherwise. 😑
@korruptwisdom8688
@korruptwisdom8688 Месяц назад
Always thought nick fury shouldve been the start of the post endgame story. Rebuilding avengers more grounded
@ybc7483
@ybc7483 Месяц назад
Give Dr Doom his comic book treatment
@mr_bluegreen2214
@mr_bluegreen2214 Месяц назад
Avengers doomed the world by saving it.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Untrue. Did you want Thanos to get away with murdering trillions scot free? Did you want the snap to never be reversed? You can’t always get what you want from the MCU
@dianondhead350
@dianondhead350 Месяц назад
they should ended this storyline then, and made the "ultimate saga" based on the ultimate universe
@Azooviemovie
@Azooviemovie Месяц назад
Deadpool gone put it right back on track!
@the5starx
@the5starx Месяц назад
"Biggest Mistake" is most def a stretch
@asad973
@asad973 Месяц назад
Ya you gave it 9.5/10
@Irrevenant_
@Irrevenant_ Месяц назад
Did he? Pretty sure this guy wasn't the reviewer for Endgame.
@nukers1234
@nukers1234 Месяц назад
The biggest problem with Disney and Endgame was that they wouldn't let the dustet heroes be dustet, because they killed of the biggest ones in the first place
@kckraves3947
@kckraves3947 Месяц назад
Damn Dogg...
@tordb
@tordb Месяц назад
Time Travel in movies equals lazy writing.
@sulekhasonkar5141
@sulekhasonkar5141 Месяц назад
Give A Kevin Feige Script to Visionaries like The Russos And Snyder and they can bring glory back to MCU
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Stop acting like a perfectionists you can’t always get what you want from the MCU. These directors have other projects to do
@Hellsing7747
@Hellsing7747 Месяц назад
Here we go again. After GOT,Marvel. IGN needs views lol
@zewelanjimutembo3659
@zewelanjimutembo3659 Месяц назад
They should have just rebooted
@falkon7832
@falkon7832 Месяц назад
It made a billion dollars, you cant change it, its five years old, go find something new.
@adam2797
@adam2797 Месяц назад
The biggest was mistake was to use time travel to resolve the problem. It’s always an easy out when writers have backed themselves into a corner
@GreggDafoe
@GreggDafoe Месяц назад
I'd be happy just to see someone, anyone, even a background NPC, ackknowledge the moon-size robot sticking halfway out of the planet...
@justarandomguy930
@justarandomguy930 Месяц назад
All the mcu has to do is, stop joking so much with lame jokes every second they get, let emotional moment's hit and, don't play it off with joking.
@MyLeg.
@MyLeg. Месяц назад
It’s like they’re scared of taking themselves too serious lmao
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
So you want the MCU to be all moody and gloomy all the time like a typical Batman film?
@justarandomguy930
@justarandomguy930 Месяц назад
@@daniellewis4154 no even the dark kight trilogy had funny moments, but when things got serious there were no force jokes, especially in life death situation.
@Lykins23
@Lykins23 Месяц назад
If people could quit talking with this cadence and tone, etc. all the time that’d be great…
@Locii97
@Locii97 Месяц назад
No it ain't. Stop it
@Mega0re0
@Mega0re0 Месяц назад
It does not take a 10 min video to say, BAD WRITING.
@Alex-pj8nz
@Alex-pj8nz Месяц назад
Because they tried to pass the message after End Game which most hate.
@WRDend
@WRDend Месяц назад
No they just gave women and people of color more screen time. That's what you hate.
@WRDend
@WRDend Месяц назад
The Captain America movies had more of a message than The Marvels.
@_Cetarial
@_Cetarial Месяц назад
We get it, you don't like the opposite gender.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Most hate? Endgame is not universally hated
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Месяц назад
.
@Hellsing7747
@Hellsing7747 Месяц назад
100% disagree. The time jump is not the mistake. The problem was the bad writing.
@jedjensen7974
@jedjensen7974 Месяц назад
That's....what they're arguing. They said the five year time jump wrote them into a corner where bad writing was more likely.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
How can you tell the writing was bad?
@jibril2473
@jibril2473 Месяц назад
They should’ve stuck to the original 1991 Jim Starlin Infinity Saga story arc.
@jortega1990
@jortega1990 Месяц назад
That wud have been dumb as hell. That story isn't rlly all that great either.
@Draw2quit
@Draw2quit Месяц назад
Everyone looks at and blames the 5 year time jump whilst "the message" sneaks off into the shadows.
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992
@Snowqueenelsaofficial992 Месяц назад
It was both tbf
@vibesshothard7943
@vibesshothard7943 Месяц назад
consume product and be excited for the next product and yea don't ask questions
@OneHipNinja
@OneHipNinja Месяц назад
Infinity war was the peak, and the descent actually started with Endgame, not after.
@Bulletin-mf2dy
@Bulletin-mf2dy Месяц назад
Agreed, the MCU should have had the original Avengers killed off in the snap and the Infinity Stones car it throughout the galaxy. The the new characters should have spent an entire phase searching and fighting over the infinity stones. Then it would have ended with the new avengers bringing back the original avengers to defeat Thanos in the final film.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Why are you all badmouthing and disrespecting endgame? What did you want from the MCU? Dis you want Thanos to get away with his atrocities scot free?
@uss_cushing
@uss_cushing Месяц назад
No killing off characters like Iron Man and Captain America was the mistake. Not the time jump.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Captain America was never killed off.
@WRDend
@WRDend Месяц назад
No that was a great finale for both characters. Following up Endgame with a random Iron Man adventure would invalidate the weight of Infinity War+Endgame
@uss_cushing
@uss_cushing Месяц назад
@@daniellewis4154 The character was killed off the moment he became old Captain America. Disney marvel destroyed their franchise with that idiotic decision.
@uss_cushing
@uss_cushing Месяц назад
@@WRDend At the time yes now monumental mistake.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
USS, we saw Steve Roger’s alive as an elderly man. They did not kill him off. That is now how killing off a character works. What did you want from endgame?
@julianlaing2514
@julianlaing2514 Месяц назад
deadpool & wolverine gone solve all these problems
@MrYadiy
@MrYadiy Месяц назад
Should hv taken a break after Infinity War. Endgame felt rush.
@ybc7483
@ybc7483 Месяц назад
CGI is 😡
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
That is a bias. You believe that all movies that use cgi are bad
@parsman9914
@parsman9914 Месяц назад
You don't get to criticize anything or anyone, IGN.
@drcolwell
@drcolwell Месяц назад
Bro we are talking about super heroes logic was out the door long ago
@Raygaming569
@Raygaming569 Месяц назад
As now Marvel lots its popularity , at this time if DC uses this time and makes zack snyder justice league movies 2, 3 to be released then it will be surely a most popular one at this time even many Marvel Fans will be changed as DC Fans . But the worry is WB and DC are not using the correct time and correct head to lead the way to success
@AM-uk7jv
@AM-uk7jv Месяц назад
What's up with IGN having Kotaku-like opinions lately?
@steli7906
@steli7906 Месяц назад
This video makes no sense....the only issues with marvel post endgame is the glut of content and the wokeness overload
@ahmedmo429
@ahmedmo429 Месяц назад
1st
@JonathanCarlosGamerOfficial
@JonathanCarlosGamerOfficial Месяц назад
This is what I’ve been telling my friends, that after Endgame, Marvel hasn’t been the same anymore… 🥺
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
So you think you own the MCU? Don’t force your friends to hate the films after endgame
@ahmedmo429
@ahmedmo429 Месяц назад
marvel now is just about agendas
@_Cetarial
@_Cetarial Месяц назад
"Now", he says.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
What agendas? What did you want from the MCU?
@Se777enthLevel
@Se777enthLevel Месяц назад
True Marvel fans know super heroes can die and return
@benjifinn
@benjifinn Месяц назад
Instead of making Chris Evans old, the old captain America should have been revealed to be Stan Lee
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Not possible
@lilnutty6821
@lilnutty6821 Месяц назад
Still curious how grown adults like this crap. Please enlighten me...
@maximummaxiness9958
@maximummaxiness9958 Месяц назад
Still curious how dumb phucks like yourself can’t understand that everyone has different likes and dislikes. Please enlighten me…
@MrRushhour4
@MrRushhour4 Месяц назад
Its fun
@_Cetarial
@_Cetarial Месяц назад
The same reason why grown adults like Pokémon.
@hazman5528
@hazman5528 Месяц назад
Strong character driven / well made stories. That’s why. Only crap here is your laughable opinion.
@lilnutty6821
@lilnutty6821 Месяц назад
@@_Cetarial why is that? Genuine question :)
@kquniverse
@kquniverse Месяц назад
Deadpool will be Marvel Jesus- when the drop Deadpool kills the mcu comes out lol
@nickess8025
@nickess8025 Месяц назад
IGN repeatedly makes the dumbest, most unnecessary points
@user-wf9vv8xn5e
@user-wf9vv8xn5e Месяц назад
5 years latter it’s still a disappointing overrated movie
@GuilhermeSouza-dp1sf
@GuilhermeSouza-dp1sf Месяц назад
5 years later there are a lot of People spitting on the plate they eaten lol
@Y3yo1993
@Y3yo1993 Месяц назад
​@GuilhermeSouza-dp1sf it really wasn't that great, until the final battle is just a whole snooze fest. Time travel killed this film, and I'm pretty sure there are many that agree that Infinity War was way better than Endgame.
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Y3. Time travel did not kill the film. Endgame tried to do something new with it by incorporating the heist genre. Did you want Thanos to get away with his snap? Did you want the snap to never, ever be reversed. Please stop badmouthing endgame
@JaySweetZ
@JaySweetZ Месяц назад
Endgame is still one of the worst movies in the mcu. Age of ultron was the best, despite its changes from the comics
@TheRealMvV
@TheRealMvV Месяц назад
Hard disagree lol
@StickyFingerss
@StickyFingerss Месяц назад
U tripping
@daniellewis4154
@daniellewis4154 Месяц назад
Jawsweetz why do you hate endgame?
@hiphopsince81
@hiphopsince81 Месяц назад
Hard troll
@lightspeed2014
@lightspeed2014 Месяц назад
They're trying to make side characters look like the main ones
@Ballistic-vn6em
@Ballistic-vn6em Месяц назад
Which is exactly what they did with Iron Man and Cap... and it worked.
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