Track is 3:43 with 2 verses. Follow backup account / @ronnierockwell8443 This was recovered off a hard drive , with other massacre demos, as well as some mixtape 50. Song ended up on The Game's first album.
@@SpicyBeanBurgers Only Hate It Or Love It, Hate It Or Love It Remix, And Special were better fitted for The Massacre the others fitted for The Documentary better yeah.
50 can probably still write at this level but no is checking for him so he likely doesn't care about music anymore. If 50 got 10 mill to make an album now I'm pretty sure he'd be able to write like this.
@@rt-rd5of What you mean no one is checking for him? Anytime 50 puts out any new music everyone runs to go check it, even people who aren't fans of him. Anything 50 does just demand attention like that. I'm not even stanning either. It's the truth.
Just realised how similar “Higher” sounds to “Outta Control” (album version without Mobb Deep on ‘The Massacre’) - makes sense that these two tracks were probably recorded around the same time frame. But you can tell which tracks on ‘The Documentary’ 50 had aid in.
He wrote all of this in a few weeks... listen to the interviews... people have no idea how in pocket 50 was in that time... he wrote massacre, games album and hits for g unit all in a short time , yayo also speaks about this.... proof is coming out now...
Why is everyone fighting about this and can't just look at it like Game 50 and Dre were a good team?! This finally proves that 50 did not write Games lyrics on the track so its an exaggeration when he said he wrote the song
50 made a huge mistake. The Massacre could of been another classic album from 50 if he hadn't given Game his original tracks and removed some of the pop tracks. It's a shame because The Massacre was a dope ass album. But to be honest he was right to do so. Game still absolutely destroyed these tracks and The Documentary is still a classic to this day.
Musically I agree with you a 100%, but business wise it was a W, to give those hits to game he sells 5 million and then follow that up and sell another 11 million on the massacre while profiting of both albums that's 50's genius for ya.
I JUST SAID THIS the other day. The Massacre would've OUTSOLD Get Rich or Die Tryin if he kept the songs he gave to The Game for himself & put it on The Massacre!
I see why they gave it to Game. Its a dope reference tho. Prime example of how having the right writer, along with the right artist, can make a record ten times better.
@@omegashenron8 True but Game was a better fit on most of those songs Dre And 50 handed to him aside from Hate It Or Love It, Hate It Or Love It Remix, And Special yeah.
Someone else claims they heard it too but tbh y’all probably just forgot because I know every 50 song and have even been on 50 forums and I’ve never heard this song
Never thought 50 was lying when he said he wrote 6 songs that were intended to be on "St.Valentine Day Massacre" aka #TheMassacre that he gave to The Game and he muted either his verses or his hooks off "Higher" "West Side Story" "Hate It Or Love It" "Church For Thugs" "Special" "This Is How We Do"...To me 50 is top 5 when it comes to writing raps songs...The brotha really knew how to write classic songs rather it was for him or other's..The Game is a real lyricist but I can see how he struggled to make hit songs or even know how to put them into song format when he really just needs a dope beat and a concept to rap to...50 was trained by Jam Master Jay and he showed him how to make songs and put in bridges and hooks with 16's...I just wanna hear the other 5 reference tracks
I believed 50 since day one, those writing credits, hooks, production and creative choices were obvious, but still those game stans won't believe it until they hear these demos, ngl I hope they keep on coming cause I been looking for these reference tracks for years, I remember 50 talking about releasing it as an ep, unfortunately that project never saw the light of day. #hateitorloveit #Iwroteyourhits
They ain’t even Game’s biggest hits though none of them songs went platinum, Game’s biggest hit is 100 Ft Drake it’s a certified Platinum hit. None of Games songs with 50 went platinum, get your facts right.
@@rossfylesthadon1443 RIAA certs aren't automatic. The artist/label pays for the updated numbers/plaques. How We Do and Hate It Or Love It haven't been updated in 15+ years
@@rossfylesthadon1443 who cares bout platinum records when the whole album went platinum. It's a classic. Documentary top 20 Best rap albums of all time
@@TheLWebb100 But the hook makes the song. Game without hooks was just an artist dropping 100 bars 200 bars 300 bars 400 bars etc. Tons of lyrics with no hooks. That doesn't work on the charts. Without this hook this is likely a freestyle on a mixtape.
@@rt-rd5of Okay but Games verses were still more flavored then 50s were the hooks no doubt helped though but 50 was not the only master hook maker Nate Dogg was also around too yeah.
wow this is a really early version of what would eventually become "Candy Shop"! I bet 50 gave Game the hook and then reused some of these lyrics for that song. 0:45
good spot. I knew I recognised the lyrics. 50 reused lyrics alot back then and this sounds like a demo flow so he was just filling gaps to fill the song I'm guessing.
@@lobbdem Yeah im sure this was a one take recording. I'm willing to bet this was intended for Massacre at some point but gave the demo to game as a reference.
50 1000% wrote the hook and gave game shit to run with like the lollipop line. But you know game wrote the verses cus all the name drops. Didn’t here one name drop on 50’s and you hear a bunch on games like usual.
What I always hated was that The Documentary is inarguably a better album than The Massacre...but, if take 50's songs and put them back on the The Massacre...that album becomes a whole new project. The Massacre could have been a classic and deserved to be without label meddling.
Those songs wouldn’t have been as good without Game on them there’s a reason Dre gave those beats to him instead lol like this for ex don’t fit 50 style at all just the hook is better
@@hurricaneslurricane3281 Dre didn't give them to Game. 50 did. They were the records that he felt he could aford to lose and would work for a west coast rapper. If Dre REALLY cared, he would have made new beats for Game. And even though I liked Game on those songs, there's no telling what 5o would have finally done with them and what features he would have added. They could have been much better. We just don't know.
Sounds so much better than games version 50 had that voice back in em days, but speak of em that new banger he's with Eminem (Is This Love) is a classic
Not just one 5 records the worst part is game denies it he’s best records to this are with 50 it’s undeniable dre had game on the shelf then he did what a smart excutive does alined game with the hottest rapper at the time who was 50 cent game can say what he wants 50 played as much as a role that dre played in getting game hot that’s a fact look at the back of the documentary lol excutive produced by dre and 50 it’s right there 😂😂😂😂🤷♂️ why deny it
@@croatiankid6595 Okay but it was mostly Dres idea and Dre is the one that got Game those connections with the Aftermath/G Unit/Shady/Interscope artists that is why Game gives more credit to Dre then 50 usually yeah.
@@matthewmann8969 u know that dre had game sitting on the shelf he was going nowhere until 50 got involved dre used 50s momentum at the time to promote game let’s call it what it is 50 cent was the hottest rapper at that time and again both massacre and get rich went diamond 12 mill with get rich 11 mill with the massacre
If he did, this record probably would have went next to “Get In My Car” on The Massacre. Regardless, he did the right thing giving it to Game. It fit him better, even with 50 writing the hook.
@@rt-rd5of Game was already a good enough rapper at laying down verses that was never the issue Dre And 50 had with him it was hooks that Game had trouble laying down for a mainstream audience instead of just a street one yeah.
50 should drop a new album and include his version of games songs on the album... that would be mad crazy and will probably put him back at number 1 musically
@@matthewmann8969 huh? Disagree with you bro, 50 dropped a single off one of the Starz shows and it was number 1 in the nation. 50 can still move the needle.
Nah, I'm a big Game fan. What didn't happen like 50 stans say is 50 didn't write entire songs for Game. He wrote hooks and Game used his flow. 50 did help with Games song writing abilities
@@WestSideChris805 Exactly Games verses were clearly filled with way more name drops then 50s were and more disrespectful too while the hook was the same yeah.
@@WestSideChris805 but after the whole identity of the song has been made the verse is pretty easy to come up with especially for game he’s an amazing lyricist
Lol that's like saying after hearing In Da Club you can't write dope verses to it. The lines, the melody of the verses and the cadence are the same. Change out a few words here and there and you hear the same song! It's not just the chorus by 50 at this point.
@@marlobarksdale3144 If you’re saying a sloppy 1 and a half minute demo version of this by 50 is better than the full mastered version by Game you’re just trying too hard.
@@Brian00007 it's basically an unfinished song. He made it as a reference for game so to think this is how 50s finished would sound isn't a fair judgement.
@@sifisoricardomaphumulo9012 I'm not trying to talk trash to you but the finished product is not much different. The only difference would be the addition of reverb, limiting, compression, eq. What you put into the mic is close to what you get in the finished product unless you're using flangers, trap auto tune and things that alter vocal sound. This is close to what you would have heard on the radio. Game definitely murdered 50 on this, but at the same time we wouldn't have had that happen without 50
Idk what happened but after Get rich 50 switched up his whole cadence and voice and in this track it sounds just okay. His energy and voice sounds way different from Poor Lil Rich, Back Down, Many Men. He had a cool twang and energy like he was excited to be rapping. This sounds like massacre era 50 no doubt because I don’t like his voice most of that album but 50 still my favorite rapper. Funny that this leaked right when game album coming lol
You’re right as a hardcore 50 fan 50 on Get Rich and Beg For Mercy is different during the Massacre era. Not in a bad way but just something slightly changed
@@antx8563 yeah if you listen to places to go, he sound like he having fun. That’s Eminem’s favorite song from 50 and it’s because dude was spazzing not only with the flow and hook but how he was saying his words. The massacre he sounds more deep and grimey where in GRODT era he his voice was lighter and more having fun with it even when taking gangsta stuff
@@ActorsReal2Reel Massacre era still produced incredible songs like Outta Control Remix & I’m Supposed To Die Tonight just to name 2 off the head but I find myself going back to Get Rich more. Stuff like Poor Lil Rich, Gotta Make It To Heaven & like you named Places To Go
@@ActorsReal2Reel Btw his voice got even more deep and Grimey in 08 and 09 during the Before I Self Destruct era which when I look back there’s definitely some dope cuts but it’s when the public started moving away from 50
All the momentum G Unit had as a group was given to Game. Game was a spitter from Comton, had his own personality, 50 Cent for the SONGS and Dr Dre for the beats, so him being apart of G Unit had no choice but to work. He fucked it up by taking that foundation away from the fans. Him being a dope Rapper, his work ethic, industry connects, and bullshit beef made his career after G Unit. Not the songs. He robbed the fans that made him. We would've preferred more songs with him Banks Buck and 50.
Exactly he denies this tho dre had game on the shelf before 50 came in the picture dre being a smart man is like why not alline game with the hottest rapper right now who is 5o cent these are facts game stans deny this but it’s a fact to this day games highest charting songs are with 59 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ he’s follow up doctors advocate was cool lol barely went platinum there u go lol the 50 dre help on documentary went 5 times platinum massive difference
Game was buzzing in Los Angeles And The Bay Area before Dr Dre And 50 Cent got there hands on him due to Game doing stuff with Big Fase 100 And JT The Bigga Figga so he was already making noise on the underground level before those big record deals with Aftermath/G Unit/Interscope but he did not become a nation wide or worldwide household name until Andre And Curtis both announced Game as there new artist yeah.
@@matthewmann8969 50 is equally responsible for games success of the documentary this a fact dre used 50s momentum to promote game he’s a smart guy he looked at aftermath who’s the hottest rapper at that time 50 cent made perfect sense just look at the back of the documentary lmao excutive produced by 50 and dre its all there I bought all these albums I lived through this music I don’t need google Lmao
Game admitted 50 gave him Westside Story, This is how we do, Hate it or love it, and Higher. Game wrote his own verses. Plus game sound better on most of them.
@@matthewmann8969 he just said he wrote special on breakfast club and that was after I made this comment. But you are right it didn’t seem like he wrote on where I’m from.
Game sounds way better on this shit doe. It went to the right person. He definitely changed a lot of the words too . The hooks and framework is what Fif wrote not the verses
Lol do you understand what a demo is? Do you understand the process of making a finished track? It's always fan and stans judging something they've never done. I love Game's version of this but you can't possibly compare a finished piece to an unfinished track.
God damn can you take the DJ vocals out cuz it’s annoying him talking over 50 when he’s rapping so I’m not able to hear what 50’s rapping during those parts?
Smdh the massacre was a sick album but if he kept these songs it would've been a legendary album. Especially with the way the game be acting these days he should've never gotten these songs.
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When i heard Candy shop and Just a lil bit 👌 then came Hate it or love it I knew it belonged to 50 cent because of the sound the similarities of sounds are there ☝️ but I got shocked even How we do I couldn't find it on 50 cent's The Massacre it was on The Game's 🙆I couldn't understand Listening to The Massacre and The Documentary these two Albums have similarities the game supposed to be Thankful ☝️
@@KRAWofficial damn, no wonder that chorus sounds like 50's voice. Even when I was a kid listening to the album back in the day, I always thought it was Fif doing the hook.
Dam that's crazy this beat is a Dr.Dre beat and this verse right here sounded like it was on the original song but got took off to give game his moment 50 sounded dope he was right he wrote a few of Games songs and gave him beats that was supposed to be on his albums.💯Everytime 50 talked about the Documentary album in interviews his story never changed always stayed the same and through out the years Games story of the process of the Documentary always sounded changed up in some areas of the creative process Game needs to stop lying strait up🤥 😆
Yup, 50 was always consistent and always mentioned the same 6 songs he worked on for the documentary: 1. Hate it or love it 2. How we do 3. Special 4. Church for thugs 5. Higher 6. Westside Story
If he wrote most of the documentary then he would of also wrote the verses for Game which he did not also 50 helped with six tracks not twelve so no he did not help even close to most of the album.
From my comment below The finished product wouldn't be much different. The only difference would be the addition of reverb, limiting, compression, eq. What you put into the mic is close to what you get in the finished product unless you're using flangers, trap auto tune and things that alter vocal sound. This is close to what you would have heard on the radio. Game definitely murdered 50 on this, but at the same time we wouldn't have had that happen without 50. All this does is prove Game was telling the truth. 50 said he wrote the whole damn song when Game said it was only songwriting and hooks. 50 a liar tbh but he did help Game out, but in return to that 50 def made a bunch of money off him too
I've already knew that 50 wrote this for game. What he did just muted vocals and upbeat the beat and gave it to the game. If you listen to the Game's version it's sounds exactly the same he just changes the verses. 50 also wrote 5 others records to the Documentary "Westside Story, How We Do, Hate It Or Love It, Church For Thugs & Special".. so now I'm looking at game like if It wasn't for 50 Cent gave those songs to Game. Your Documentary will never be successful like it was when it came out. So Dr. Dre & 50 Cent made The Game
@@rt-rd5of I don't know about that because he wasn't with G-Unit when he released the Doctor's Advocate. He was released from G-Unit in 2005 due to disloyalty. So idk about that. But I know 50 wrote half of the album on The Documentary
@@deiondresmith8886 No six songs only helping with hooks and not Games own verses does not count as half a album but 50 did do Game a favor with those hooks yeah.
@@matthewmann8969 of course The Game wrote the verses but as a songwriter and song structure development by 50. 50 had over 16 records prepared for the Massacre. But since Dr. Dre singed The Game back in 2003. They asked 50 to help The Game with the records like 50 said "He's A Great Rapper He's Just Not A Great Song Writer".
@@deiondresmith8886 You know Dre had other people that could of helped Game with hooks and cadence like Em, Snoop, And Nate right 50 was not the only option.
Nah 50 would of still fell off going against Kanye in 2007 in result of beefing with too many people like Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch, J Hood, Cassidy, Swizz Beatz, Fat Joe, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon The Chef, Gza. Cam'ron, Charlie Baltimore, Lil Kim, And more yeah.
Some people say documentary is better then the massacre the shit that made the documentary sell was all records 50 aided !!! That’s a fact but let’s not act like the massacre ain’t a classic hits like I don’t need them piggy bank I m supposed to die tonight ski mask way guns come out get in my car Baltimore love thing gateman and Robin in my hood, god gave me style ... people give credit to 50 for get rich but in my opinion the massacre is a great album it’s a worthy sequal to get rich I can no skip the massacre front to back with no problems 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ The massacre did 11 mill documentary did 5 mill !!! People get it twisted massacre ain’t just candy shop and disco inferno lol y’all gotta listen track by track
In da club was originally a d12 beat. They didn’t want it so 50 took it. Higher was originally a 50 cent left over track. He didn’t want it so game took it
Only songs that were better fits for The Massacre where Hate It Or Love It, Hate It Or Love It Remix, And Special and Put You On The Game was not helped by 50 or Dre at all yeah.
Just to let people know, How We Do and Westside Story where always intended to be on The Documentary. The original version of Westside Story had Snoop on it instead of 50. With or without 50 that album would of still had Westside Story, Dreams, How We Do & Put You On The Game. So regardless that album was gonna be a smash.
@popamalu lolll westside story was not 50’s record. According to mike Lynn from aftermath “That was the first record that Dre and Game did. 50 wasn’t involved yet. That was just Game. Game wrote that record. That’s Game’s record. The different skill that 50 brought to the table was that he was hook ready. At the time, Game was still developing his hooks. Game’s hooks were more street oriented, 50’s hooks were things we could get on the radio.” Game already had the verses laid out and the record was intended to be on the all about the Benjamin’s soundtrack
50 regrets helping out his artist so much because he could of been stingy for his second album. He wrote so many songs during this period it was no way they could all fit on The Massacre tho
50 should do a mix tape with these and put them out there now. !! Put Game to rest already.. wouldn't surprise me if its game leaking this for publicity he doing whatever he can to hype up his coming album.. went at eminem we all just called him dumb. Then saying kanye did more for you then Dre! 🤨 ! Fool this just proves Dre and 50 made you bro!! His current manager . Played his ass and that's why he was not on the stage on big sunday!! Those were not his songs!!🤣 ..
games version and lyrics are better by a mile. 50 only gave away the hooks to help and the beats rhat didnt fit his own album. banks wrote the hook to in da club. 50 doesnt realize its the same thing.
That's a rumor about Banks and pretty sure Banks denied it. Idk until there is some proof. Seems a little not possible because 50 always been fire at hooks. Banks has some great hooks too but not as much as 50.