50 Year Old vs Modern Welder Tested

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@ElBach1y 2 года назад

when I was little I thought that since my dad's welder apparently created metal out of thin air, we would never run out of metal in the world. I told him about my discovery, he laughed and showed me the big spool of wire inside the welder. also taught me about the electrical circuit and the wire feeding through :) you learn a lot if your family's trade is cars

@kenwillis8487 2 года назад

I had the same theory about fax machines when I was little! They kept printing paper! My mom laughed so hard!

@julian23561 2 года назад

I though oxyacetylene welding was cheaper than metal arc welding as a wee lad and inisited my father use it instead to save on power bills not knowing that special air in a big can was waaay more expensive.

@dieselscartalk4146 2 года назад

I used to think the same thing, then I told my dad that it was the best tool for that reason

@area51803 2 года назад

That channel above is a spam bot don't dm them

@ikhoonyejelem2967 2 года назад

Cool story

@ChrisRand-gf7lz 2 года назад

One thing to remember is that MIG Welding came about as a way to produce M4 tanks faster for the US Army in WW2. Before that, Stick Welding (Shield Metal Arc Welding) was the go to for all welding process. Stick Welding (SMAW) is a slow, rather skill intensive process as there are a number of factors you are needing to pay attention to while welding to lay a good bead, and in a time like WW2 where really every second counted, they didn't have the time to waste to train people to stick weld, so they needed a faster process that could be learned much quicker so the average citizen could pick-up the skill and contribute in the factories. So while the machine you had was 50 years old, the MIG process has been around for 80 years, meaning they already had 30 years of knowledge going that old machine. It may have been large and clunky, but the foundation was solid so it's not surprising with a bit of tweaking it would work just as well and delivered a weld that was just a good.

@EvandroEstima 2 года назад

didnt know that. actually interesting hahah

@marauder4341 2 года назад

Yeah im at a techical colege ( diesel mac course) and we did gas welding(oxy acetylene) and stick welding its alot easier if you learn with a stick welder because its very skill intensive

@Sak-zo1ui 2 года назад

Gtaw has entered the chat lol

@shirazelahi 2 года назад

That's really interesting. Good to know!

@joemad4110 2 года назад

GMAW has been around for 100 years now, but they didn’t start using shielding gas until 1948. It wasn’t really economical to weld with GMAW till the 1950’s because that’s when they figured out they could add CO2 to the gas mixture. SMAW isn’t that hard honestly especially with a fixed shade helmet.

@jonathanmaestas8080 2 года назад

One of the many things I love about your channel is your integrity and commitment. You didn't just give up on the old welder or even "upgrade it" to a slightly less old one. No, you went through the time and trouble to make it work right and I for one appreciate your dedication. Keep up the good work!

@chad1550 Год назад

Yur an aduiot why would they not take the time to fix it n countinuie the experiment

@UpperDarbyDetailing Год назад

Agreed, although I can tell that the old welder wasn't set properly. Wire speed was a little slow.

@whiplash-wl8764 2 года назад

Just as a note for most people looking into getting into welding, that multi process Miller they used is very high end for most at home/day to day use. There are others that are over 4x cheaper and will do just as good a job, especially if you look at welders that go up to around 240-280v.

@the_mowron Год назад

I'm still using the Sears AC stick welder I got at the thrift store for $60 (I overpaid, but it goes to a good cause).

@maxcooper7829 Год назад

Flux core even cheaper too! Just annoying to use

@whiplash-wl8764 Год назад

@@The_Slavstralian I'm actually looking into buying a Vulcan Omnipro 220, they're just under $1.2K and made by a guy who used to be a designer for Lincoln.

@Tubeyou2343hhsg Год назад

@@whiplash-wl8764 lincoln machines are trash

@nathanielwalters6384 Год назад

@@Tubeyou2343hhsgyou obviously have no knowledge on welders or anything at all to judge something that you’ve probably never used. Lincoln lasted me over 8 years and it’s still going strong

@brodybishop7647 2 года назад

Most shocking part of this video was that their shop didn't have atleast one 240v hookup

@kschaub62 2 года назад

That's what I was thinking. What kind of self respecting shop wouldn't

@thorpe31 2 года назад

commercial property so likely 3-phase 120/208

@dabkevinhere5422 2 года назад

i was also questioning that i feel like if i had a youtube chanel like them even with how stupid i am id have 3 or 4 phase electricity

@PonticelloMotorsport 2 года назад

*confused in european*

@HanKamiBeats 2 года назад

Laughs in european

@justintime9133 2 года назад

Someone with experience can make the old one sing like an angel! My pops made beautiful welds with that exact style welder

@SilverC8andDroppedC10 2 года назад

Totally agree, had the settings on the older welder been adjusted properly it would have sounded more like the newer one. That said technology has definitely simplified the process. The auto set feature is very impressive.

@jonathanholley7580 2 года назад

First of all, the new facial front is kicking. And second, I’m amazed both of those welders did so well! My grandfather was a welder for 40 years of his life and to know that’s what kind of equipment he used is mind blowing! I did also get him a brand new welding helmet and he has loved it. Definitely treat yourself to one if you haven’t already!

@stevemadak6255 2 года назад

That is not Donut. It's a scammer. Do not hit them up for a 'prize'

@804_Rider 2 года назад

@@stevemadak6255 report them too

@riba2233 2 года назад

Reports do absolutely nothing

@TheMarioOne 2 года назад

@@riba2233 That's what they want you to think

@riba2233 2 года назад

@@TheMarioOne No, I know that for a fact. I still report though sometime

@kid31989 2 года назад

Pretty sure there is a gas issue in the old welder: there was not enough shielding which is why there was an abundance of sparks.

@andrewhawkes6478 2 года назад

Did they drag that weld we normally push unless we're using flux core

@kennethsutherland4645 2 года назад

@@andrewhawkes6478 ye solid wire u suppose to push, for peno reason and for overhead welding and vertical up, flux core is basically is the easiest one which can be pushed or pulled but not as good for vertical up or overhead so imo for what they do, I think flux core is best for car works just because u can get a consistency with peno and welds look a lot cleaner

@unklekurlu 2 года назад

Not enough amps

@andrewhawkes6478 2 года назад

I've only used flux core on armour plate been welding, steel industry for 40 odd years was just interested to see the difference over sea's

@timhothead8240 2 года назад

Also you didnt say what gas you were using. If you were using 75/25 [co2 and argon ] that runs hotter and more spatter. Strait co2 runs colder and less spatter. The older welder you need to be a welder to understant how it works and how to adjust it. Like the new one anybody that can read can set it up but you did the comparison well just wonder if the new welder will still work as well after 50 years

@joshbenton810 2 года назад

This was actually pretty interesting, and while your single vs three phase explanations were mostly correct, most three phase stuff uses nowhere near 100 amps- if it’s actually the same size in KW as your single phase thing, it actually uses less current to do the same work

@dubmob151 2 года назад

is it ever an option to just supply a single phase to a welder that has a three phase power input? wouldn't it have registered as a full stop when there are four open power connections?

@joshbenton810 2 года назад

@@dubmob151 no, a three phase appliance needs three phase You can actually cause major damage to equipment doing that especially if it has a motor supplying it with only one or two phases However most older equipment has nothing to stop it trying to work when it only has one or two phases connected, as shown in the video where the welder worked a little but but really terribly If that was a motor it would just sit there humming till the varnish melts off the windings and the motor is screwed

@joshbenton810 2 года назад

@@dubmob151 I wouldn’t be surprised if there are single/ three phase welding machines, but I’m a sparky not a welder so dont know too much about different types

@anvilsvs Год назад

Amperage: for three phase multiply by three for equivalent power, i.e. the 30 amp three phase = 90 amp single phase. For home use you don't even want to think of going near 3 phase. Even business. One of my businesses uses three phase and we have a generator because it was going to cost over $175,000 to get that power run to the site.

@Migman2020 Год назад

@@anvilsvs lol that's not how 3 phase works.. assuming you have a power factor of 0.99 then 30a of 3 phase at 400v would actually be 86a at 240v. but again that is assuming your appliance has a insanely good power factor otherwise

@Aisakey 2 года назад

Nice to see the quality rising back to the level I expect from Donut on this episode. The content, the editing, that was neat. More of this please !

@Goglebobs 11 месяцев назад

@xBLUETHUNDER1998x 2 года назад

Seeing Jobe go from facial hair to clean shave was a flashbang lol

@erict3728 2 года назад

Now if he will just get back to clean cut hair... I wonder how many people think he looks less professional now. Maybe the military screwed me up, but i have a hard time taking people seriously with their hair hanging everywhere, looking like a caveman.

@1tinMan 2 года назад

23y qualified heavy welder here to say thanks for trying to spark interest in the trades. I will say there are a lot of variables unaccounted for between the two machines, not to mention operator skill. Old units have character and are quarky due to long service in a specific range, and can take a set(like a spring can.) That said, when they get into the range they are conditioned to, they work. I encourage folks to take formal training, as it is more educational than OJT.

@Helmsy1212 2 года назад

Exactly. Older welders will lose the nob accuracy and you’ll have to adjust it through trial and error I was using an older welder that was running 135 amps on the nob but only felt like 85-90 based on how it was keyholing the root bevels. And vice versa, I’ve had them where the nob said 40 but it was keyholing like it was 120amps

@1tinMan 2 года назад

@mind games It's apples to oranges really. My og comment was about their comparison vid. As we all know, Time is Money. That said, I agree that if you own a business, and are in a position to invest like that, do it! However, I believe their vid was about buying a unit for your own non-commercial use. Hobbyists usually want to drop coin on parts/kits. Let's face it, arc time is small when compared to the whole job. Either way, you can't go wrong. Who doesn't want primo tools!

@eastcoastcarpenterofalaska5073 2 года назад

Watching this hurt my soul,

@damienboase9520 2 года назад

@@eastcoastcarpenterofalaska5073 ahahahahah me too man, I have aids from watching this. So many things wrong.

@ThunderWindz 2 года назад

“Most 3 phases devices requires 100 amp” - and that is when you know, that they dont know what they are takling about

@reecesaliba7036 2 года назад

Electricity is a core part of the entire modern world, yet most peoples knowledge of it is so limited its sad.

@wallpep 2 года назад

How true, my shop has a 400 amp service but most of the equipment uses 30 amps or less.

@adammcalpine5161 Год назад

Multiple cringeworthy moments in this video, and it still has 1.5 million views. Man I'm in the wrong business...

@scottcarr3264 Год назад

That's right, I have a Three Phase welder at work that uses 17 amps per phase, that is not 100 Amps.

@SparkyMcKlein 7 месяцев назад

not to be super nitpicky: single phase power, counter intuitively, runs on two phases. two hots, instead of a hot and a neutral. just sayn.

@nyxkeres8597 2 года назад

The old welder while it had a mig addon was originaly an arc welder that welded with welding sticks and the hand fed mig attachment meant that it was for long distance welding usually a setup like that would of been to weld thick steel for say beams or thick sheet steel on heavy equipment or ships not really an apples to apples comparison you could get older mig welders with the wire housed in the unit itself fed through the cable similar to the newer model you have. The automatic sensing weld system seems nice so long as it works and doesn't go jank on you for welds that you really want to trust life or death for example Id still stick with manual settings.

@freakmyzoid 2 года назад

Most older welders are just big power sources that could be converted to whatever, get the right stuff and its a tig welder if its a constant current, used to convert one old ass welding machine into tig, mig, stick, and flux core depending on what that day called for

@mrkazman Год назад

nice to know. but please, weld a coupla commas in there next time, bud

@erik_dk842 Год назад

@@mrkazman Commas remind him of spatter, so he prefers to use as litte of them as possible LOL

@richardprice5978 Год назад

still less spatter and stress riseser's anyways im pro-TIG welding. hot-glue MIG is for looks or tack's lolz 😂

@johnraitt2555 Год назад

Spool guns are also used for Aluminum mig welding. They still make spool guns for both doing Aluminum and for using long leads. My boss just bought a Miller spool gun and that joker costs about $700 or so

@joelmichotjr97 2 года назад

We have a welder from the 70’s in my fab shop and it welds just fine. It’s also not a spool gun. The only thing is that the voltage dial is off by like 3 to 5 volts. Y’all were WAY too cold with the old welder

@Faraway8721 2 года назад

Way way cold!! hehe.

@Faraway8721 2 года назад

@buffalo wt Really dude? They're making it accessible to lots of people. Welding is a huge niche field with MANY levels of tech and skill and quality requirements, its simpley not possible to make super in depth videos on the subject that cover EVERYTHING, and still be a dynamic channel with great all round content.

@Faraway8721 2 года назад

@buffalo wt Fair enough, I think it's pretty cool nonetheless.

@lonyo5377 2 года назад

Isn't that the point? New welder worked fine because it told them what to do. Old welder worked better when some experts told them how to set it up.

@gregorizi 2 года назад

Old one you can use for your life time and more. With new one i dont think so. The time will tell, jet if we do some analytics the answer is known,

@thomasguerriero8189 2 года назад

The spool guns were used primarily to weld aluminum so the wire goes right from the spool to the tip and not through the length of the liner

@ninefingerdeathgrip 2 года назад

They are still used today to weld aluminum, as aluminum wire is soft and that makes it hard to push it through liner

@Mr-Broccoli 2 года назад

*Because unlike carbon steel which can be dirty and still weld nicely aluminium needs to be CLEAN AF to get a nice weld, The long liner picks up alot of crap from the workshop

@thomasguerriero8189 2 года назад

@@ninefingerdeathgrip Yes I have been welding for 40 years and have used that same spool gun that are using on the video,they make real nice ones today

@mikefelty2625 2 года назад

We use spool guns for aluminum in the sign shop I work at. We don't use them for steel. Alumimun wire is also a lot softer and will bind up very easily if it's a long distance from the surface you're welding.

@carlwarren1376 2 года назад

Miller makes mig welders for aluminum that have a feeder box and not a spool gun. No problems moving aluminum through 25 foot lead

@jellofuel 2 года назад

i'm in welding school rn, all our certifications require bend tests on 5/16" cold rolled steel. Our coupons look mostly like what you've done here, only we weld all the way through, polish and a hydraulic press bends them into a U shape. You'll see the weld metal, any porosity, slag, etc this way. Awesome video!

@Kryynism 2 года назад

Pretty neat. So many welders these days in school.

@codyknarich3949 2 года назад

we do the same at my school im always excited to do bend tests

@jhands1988 2 года назад

What do you mean by cold rolled steel? I always do weld test using flat stock.

@codyknarich3949 2 года назад

@@jhands1988 your flat stock is most likely cold rolled, but its just the process the metal is formed

@eternalbeing3339 2 года назад

I have my technical arts degree in welding. Passed a few bend tests. If you can use a grinder, then grind out any porosity before you lay down any stringer beads. Your root pass and spacing is the most important part.

@brownmsoe Год назад

The biggest difference between the welders is their duty cycle, which is how much time each machine can run before needing to cool off. The new machine is a at home light duty machine, duty cycle before it needs to cool will depend on much they spent, but would be less than 30 minutes of continuous welding. The 3-phase old school welding can weld from sun up to sun down and not break a sweat. It was meant to run all day and everyday. It lacks modern features of being able to weld anything but MIG. The newer machine they had could most likely do MIG, TIG and stick welding. Different welding methods require unique wave forms to weld certain materials and change depending upon thickness and also the inert gas control. Old school machine was meant to weld the same part day in and day out.

@TheKodiak72 Год назад

^ This 100% and probably the most important part they completely missed.

@techwizpc4484 Год назад

We have an old school one at at home the size of a generator, but can't use it since it has to be wired directly into the house wiring. It's heavy to push around but to be fair can go as high as 900 amps. I just have to settle with a modern portable one.

@davehole4998 Год назад

Its all about welder not welding machine

@nanashivii9237 2 года назад

The contrast in technology is really on show here, but would the newer one still function as well, if at all, after the same amount of time elapsed?

@jacobesper7981 2 года назад

in my shop we use millermatic 350p units and they need to be repaired or replaced way more often than the price tag would suggest

@raynjpg 2 года назад

That's a fair question, actually. It would be difficult to test, but interesting.

@YeTheGOATNoCap 2 года назад

We have a bunch new welding machines in the shop that are constantly being sent out for repairs.

@julian23561 2 года назад

If it has digital features, I'd assume those would be the first thing to break. Newer tech always means more points of failure, you can't really beat a big-ass transformer in terms of longevity.

@Sak-zo1ui 2 года назад

Definetly not lol

@Cowanistan 2 года назад

As a certified structural welder, I've welded with these same exact hoods and a welder older than this system. It's obviously user error, sorry still love you guys though!

@frozenorbit7211 2 года назад

Exactly! Im a pipe welder and they just clearly don’t understand how welding works, we use old stick welders all day with no problem whatsoever.

@rph_redacted 2 года назад

Yea got the stand on my scooter welded, dude fed the wire by hand and did the job with regular outlet ( we have 240V standard in India ) , it was done in 10 mins and just cost me 200 rupees, that's like $2.5

@darkracer1252 2 года назад

that's the whole problem of the modern world. people are so dependant on technology and computers doing the thinking for them that everyone today is basicly retarded. take these 2 guys. they can't even weld propperly without the machine doing things automaticly. they fucked up the settings and the technique on the old welder and it STILL produced a stronger weld.

@mokomothman5713 2 года назад

Was about to say the same thing.

@danielhast7214 2 года назад

There should be a warning in this video: “WARNING: Jobe will be clean shaven at halfway to end of video!” Not sure I was ready for that. 🤣

@loganbradshaw619 Год назад

Hey I'm a professional welder my self and I have to say The problem with the weld profile for the new at 11:31 is it your voltage was too low and wire speed was way too high but again great video ☺️👍

@oeab8167 Год назад

Yeah, I agree. As a guy who has been welding for about a year now, more like a quarter year just counting mig I consider both to be kinda shitty, he has to turn the heat up, wire speed down a touch, and then do circles, not ovals. Honestly surprised it did not break, but to be fair it was not much of a destructive test.

@jerrodknight6651 Год назад

I was saying the same thing at my phone. It's crazy how experience in just the noise coming from the machine tells you what needs to be done to fix it. Way too fast and not hot enough

@nicholasmorrow2601 Год назад

Absolutely, someone who knows what there doing can make both welders run equally across the board. That new welder does all the setup work for you .. and it will get you pretty close .. if you don’t know how to set up a welder your self,,, good luck with that old one, you need to know what your doing

@loganschleske5915 Год назад

If they destructive testing would have been performed correctly it would have broke both pieces showing the penetration of both welds, they should have pressed on the welds themselves and not against them. They way it was performed just showed that the metal they welded on had a lower ductility than the weld itself

@backwoodslogging8443 2 года назад

Boiler maker from Australia. Great video. I have a 40 year old Australian made WIA mig welder has the main box and the 15kg spool and hand peace is on a separate frame that can be moved 10 meteors from main unit. Also had a 5 meteor earth cable. She's 3 phase and 300 amp and it just lays a wicked weld every time

@pig7010 Год назад

Couldnt agree more I've used wia migs for years there bullet proof the older ones, they just never fail awesome welder

@dickJohnsonpeter Год назад

How far is a meteor exactly?

@mattdpainter531 Год назад

I have to start measuring stuff in meteors, that rules

@JoshuaNicoll 2 года назад

Ah that's not totally fair, you can get spoolguns for modern MIG welders too, that old welder just wasn't exactly born as a MIG welder entirely, I've used 50 year proper MIG welders with no real issues, you just need to know how to set it up really, not as user friendly.

@EvolvedTactical 2 года назад

I'm a union pipefitter, so most of the welding I do is stick welding, but it's absolutely amazing how far the technology has come in the last couple of decades. Love some good welding content!

@mcbtoe 2 года назад

Cheap vs expensive welders? I'd like to see some good beginner-level options.

@professorginz2379 2 года назад

There are some nice Chinese units, which work quite well, in the $300-500 range. They are not only suitable for beginners, but will work fine for low volume applications.I own a Reboot RM2100D which works pretty well. Check for sales on Amazon.

@MrHunterseeker 2 года назад

can't go wrong with the licoln red tombstone stick welder for $400-$500 I would always recommend a stick welder over anything else unless you plan on doing any aluminum welding, then there are no real cheap options, only tigs. Stick welders are the easiest to use/user friendly because you don't have to worry about wire speed, gas settings, and keeping extra gasses like mig welders.

@seththompson1912 2 года назад

Eastwood makes some really nice small wire welders. You can also go to lowes or Home Depot and buy a small Lincoln for a decent price. Also, it’s cheaper if you’re starting out with a wire welder to wire weld with flux core wire other than a MIG setup. You don’t have to buy the welding gas. I would also recommend a Lincoln tombstone welder if you’re starting out stick welding. If you’re looking for a decent priced engine driven welder, I’d 100% recommend a Hobart. They’re not too far off from the Miller Bobcat or Wildcat welder and they work good.

@youngjesus5992 2 года назад

a good welder will make any machine work honestly. The ones at the trade school I attended had some old stick welders that ran better than the newer ones. At my job where im certified for spray arc GMAW we use Lincoln K5000-2 Flex Feeds with 0.045 wire and those run amazing as well. we do complete joint penetrations (CJP) up to 3in thick with those machines

@proxypanda4156 2 года назад

@@youngjesus5992 the old stick welders were better than cheap chinese shit

@OctaneStreet 2 года назад

It's sick to see that both can get the job done, and that technology has simply made it so that you can get the job done a lot easier and more efficiently. Dope!

@m817pro8 2 года назад

My 1988 Hobart Beta Mig 250 is a tank. It actually works as well as the newer welders I've used. Biggest thing is knowing the best settings for the application. Even on .035 wire it has enough power to spray arc weld as well. It is big and a pain to move outside the building, but it is my go to for heavy repairs.

@cerial0411 2 года назад

Waiting for welds to cool so figured I would watch some donut. I have a millermatic 211 that is easily over 10 years old and has ran through 20+ spools. The only thing I see having a issue on the newer welders is the digital display or the buttons. Dials may not be as cool and may develop a few degrees of slop over time. But they will still function after several years.

@toeleg 2 года назад

You got another 20 years n hundreds of spools to go before that baddy goes lol 😂

@MadMrMatter 2 года назад

I graduated in 2010 in the south and learned welding with one of those old masks and on a stick welder. We had to make a metal box that could hold water without leaking. Pretty fun tbh. Anyone else with similar experience?

@tomtomi93 2 года назад

Yeah, im a plumber in finland and i remember that we had to Weld the most useless extravagant "things" and weld them as if it was going to be sinked in cement for 50 years, it was fun but the things we welded are the most useless stuff i know lol

@YGPMBDD 2 года назад

My friend took a welding course in highschool in ny and he had to do the metal box test around 2019

@adambauers6712 2 года назад

Laps, butts and tees on what felt like tin foil at the time. Anything thicker than 20 gauge is gravy now.

@Faraway8721 2 года назад

I did the IIW welder diploma in South Africa in about 2009, we just went through all the positions. I did take part in the world skills competition though, and we did pointless position vessels there too. Great fun! All with fliptop helmets, GMAW, MMA and GTAW,

@kadin4207 2 года назад

We did the box test in iowa 2016

@gopatriots1991 2 года назад

Oh lord. I've been involved in welding since 2005, from tech high school welding, to CWI and working on other NDT/NDE certs. Seeing a running spoolmate 1 and WC-1 made my day. Airco has some interesting history up to when their welding tech was bought by what is now ESAB. Lot of history there. I'd say not a bad scratch at the surface of the welding world. Solid basic knowledge to get someone into it from an automotive standpoint.

@GhostHaze87 2 года назад

If your so qualified y didn’t you mention the incorrect direction of travel or gun angle lol

@gopatriots1991 2 года назад

@@GhostHaze87 Because literally nobody asked. If I wanted to nit pick I'm sure there's dozens of things wrong. But this was a simple video to demonstrate welding not the place my guy.

@michaelszczys8316 Год назад

If u want to see running old MIG, I just wait until I go to work tomorrow.

@Bakedfrijoless 11 месяцев назад

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@picklecat1873 2 года назад

Came here expecting a 50 year old man fighting a welder😔

@Ninjaman3870 6 месяцев назад

Underrated comment for sure. I read the title and thought the same thing

@garyh1431 3 месяца назад

Same here bro

@JaceMillion Месяц назад

other welders do every day 😂

@frankinroc5092 2 года назад

I love that Jobe comes off as just a goof ball, but is actually pretty damn knowledgeable on a looot of things. Just love the people on this channel. Each one of them rock

@MrHighschoolwrestler 2 года назад

I’m a welding instructor now. But back when I traveled I always had a fixed shade just incase my auto darkening hood went out. Can’t go wrong with old school

@JonathanWhoever 2 года назад

Yep. My company bought the cheapest auto. Completely roll of the dice, everytime you hit the trigger , pressed the pedal or scratched a rod. It somehow went missing.

@howardhughes6212 2 года назад

Instructor where? Blind leading the blind. I’ve met a lot of trash instructors that only got their job cause they knew someone. Lincoln welding school in Dallas has a bunch of noobs teaching. Another clown 🤡

@codypace9257 2 года назад

I pretty much exclusively use a fixed shade at work

@howardhughes6212 2 года назад

@@codypace9257 Fixed shade is for poor people. I can loan you some money if you need it brother. 😂

@codypace9257 2 года назад

@@howardhughes6212 i make plenty doing aerospace welding. And my fixed shade lens and hood cost more than most auto darkening 😆

@farminstoltzfus 2 года назад

50yo MIG welder? 😮 We have a Lincoln MIG welder we bought back in 2005 and a Lincoln Tombstone dad bought back in 1975 in the farm shop. Them tombstone buzzboxes never die.

@1012Mrjesse 2 года назад

My dad has been welding/fabricating since the 70’s and I got into it about 4 years ago, you guys make it easy to understand in very basic terms for those who don’t actually know anything, also every machine is different, even if you have two of the exact same miller welders, they will not run the same on the same settings, they always give you a starting point, and you can always change it to your liking. I personally like To run everything hot, but don’t have my wire feed as high as most machines will auto set to. I generally run around 19 volts 240 wire feed to 21 volts 280 wire feed for just about everything, unless it’s super thick, or also obviously unless it’s dual shield.

@dylanrutan100 Год назад

This does a great job of demonstrating the evolutionary improvements we’ve made in the practice of welding while also highlighting the timelessness of the practice. I recently had the opportunity to weld around with my grandfather, and he brought out my great grandfather’s mig welder to teach me how to mig.

@mamasabe1w81 2 года назад

I remember my next door neighbor using one of these things. In the 70’s. He made the most beautiful welds. MIG welding was an art form and took an incredibly skilled person to use and perform welds. Everybody in the neighborhood went to him when they needed a weld job. The man was built like a tank and wielded that gun like it weighed nothing. So ya, it’s much easier nowadays for everyone to learn to weld. Back then, not so many folks.

@shotgun6160 2 года назад

I am so glad to see this episode as a young former MIG Welder. I’ve been working in a metal carpentry factory as a welder for several months and like any welder i always get hyped when i see other welders or other people weld hahahah

@michaelfreeman222 2 года назад

I do wish they did more car stuff like the miata pit type stuff I loved learning about cars espacily how they thought me. They made it fun to learn!been with the group since like 100k still like the channel though and still watch everything they post

@trentlewis1473 2 года назад

Living on a farm we use both new and old. We use a new MIG for light things and tacking. For the heavier stuff we go to the 60 year old stick welder that can burn holes through 1/2" steel ( yes it does have the amps to do it) and we never have to clean the workpiece prior to welding. It isn't about new versus old, it's about using the right tool for the right job.

@rangerrick816 2 года назад

I'm surprised you don't have a 240V circuit in your shop.

@Wolfesbrain 2 года назад

When I first saw the old welder, how grungy it looked, and all the technical issues it was causing you, I found myself wanting to see you guys collaborate with one of those restoration channels like Hand Tool Rescue (though not that channel specifically, since he's in Canada. Like, someone local) to restore the rig to like-new condition for a more fair comparison. Y'all ended up doing right by the old welder without going that far, but if you're looking for something to do with the rig, finding a small time creator and giving them a boost by having them restore it would be swell. Plus I really just wanna see this thing taken to bits and put back together again.

@JTwelder. 2 года назад

Nice welder comparison! When it comes to welding mask though they make auto darkening Lenses for the old style helmets and you need fresh clear lenses, the dark lens also come in different shades of darkness. lot of guys run old style flip fronts for field work. Also the flip isn't intended to be flipped down before welding it's actually used to double the hood as a grinding shield. You flip the whole hood down with your neck before welding that way it's hands free

@chrismiller5940 2 года назад

Spool guns still have their uses. I used one when welding on a magnesium truck dock plate in part because the wire was very expensive.

@GeekInJeep 2 года назад

Don't believe the winner message. Almost definitely a scam.

@Marsupial2 2 года назад

I just started a welding class in my school and we’ve started with arc welding. Very cool experience.

@seththompson1912 2 года назад

Career welder here, and son of a welding instructor! You can still get a spool gun for modern welders. They’re good for when you’re changing between processes a lot. Your old welder is having a gas issue, could just be a tip covered in spatter. Would 100% recommend getting a container of spatter guard to dip your new or old welder gun tip in before welding. Helps prolong tip life. If y’all ever have questions feel free to reach out.

@TheTheRanger1 2 года назад

“Safety gear is on” proceeds to use grinder without face shield

@Kryynism 2 года назад

Lol I was cuttin yesterday while barefoot in shorts and no shirt. Probably dumb. Got fucked up by a grinder a few years back. 18 staples and 32 stitches.

@lukecoomer9349 2 года назад

It looked like he had a flap disc on, do a shield isn't strictly necessary.

@gingie5246 2 года назад

Or a handle, or a guard,

@Trumplican 2 года назад

5:45 no way the gas is working on that one. polarity might even be backwards.

@credit__devin 2 года назад

Sounds like it or they just don’t know how to set a machine

@christophergrant9434 2 года назад

i learned to weld on one of the old machines in shop class in high school. went on to work in a shop where only new ones were located. when dialed in properly the old is much better

@stevewinkler3383 2 года назад

I worked at Miller from 1974 to 1994 as a welder. We only used those big, clunky guns for aluminum welding as the wire is so soft. We had a separate wire feeder unit for mild and stainless welding.

@refluxcatalyst7190 2 года назад

3:40 the electrons are actually going the other way. Your "ground" is actually "positive" and the electrode wire is "negative." Otherwise you'd be welding onto the wire, not into the base metal. That's why AC welding is so messy, it flips back and forth 120x a second.

@Sniper361984 2 года назад

I worked for a week in a place making bins and a guy was welding pieces a few feet from me. I though i was far enough away but at the end of the day I found out that the right side of my face was sunburnt. The lesson? If you are anywhere near a welder in operation, cover up.

@1pcfred 2 года назад

You weren't sunburnt. You were arc burnt. Arc burning is a lot worse than sun burning.

@teerat8451 2 года назад

I remember that huge mig welder from shop class and it was clunky. It was also hard to learn with an angry shop teacher yelling in your ear. "Your doing it wrong."

@piccalillipit9211 2 года назад

That's exactly how I learned to weld - with my farmer uncle screaming at me "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG...!!!"

@TheXpert. 2 года назад

This is one of the coolest videos I've seen recently I love seeing history and how far we've come and everything about the 50s is like a fever dream

@leroy420b 2 года назад

That welder is from the late '70s AKA 50 years ago not from the 1950s

@dannyshone4663 2 года назад

Wire has a big part to play in spatter too, new wire tends to have better coating on it to reduce spatter.

@bengrosser8722 2 года назад

Those old airco welders actually are fantastic for tig welding one of the best setups I have ever used was an old airco

@quentinnine9441 2 года назад

Great video! A few remarks, though. C25 (75 % Argon + 25 % CO2) and especially C100 (100 % CO2) (or M21 ArC-25 and C1 how they're called in Europe) aren't inert shielding gases at all. In fact, the CO2 component is quite the active component, reacting with the weld metal and thus for example creating the silicate islands we all know (brown spots at 4:09). Highly simplified, but you get the idea. Over here, when an active gas component is present, it is called MAG welding - metal active gas welding. The only metals welded with MIG that I'm aware of, are Aluminium, Titanium and Copper - not including very special metals like Zirconium. There, pure Argon (I1) or mixtures of Argon and Helium (I3). Pure Helium (I2) is rarely if ever used, because it's harder to initiate an arc with it (high ionization energy). The very olf welding machines use a heavy transformer, which, as I have been told by the old guys in my company, creates a great performing arc, but controls are very limited. Mostly they are extremely inefficient when compared to power sources utilizing modern transistors for the power unit. One would be hardpressed to find anything else anyway nowadays. So old machines can still work great, as we can see here! Maybe you could even use the old power source with a more modern external feeding system NOT situated on the welding torch itself. By the way, sometimes this is still found with Aluminium welding, but has largely been eliminated by good Push-Pull-systems. Sorry for the long post! Cheers guys, keep up the great work!

@leroy420b 2 года назад

Mig or mag neither one is the correct name for the welding being used. GMAW or gas metal arc welding is the correct term.

@kevinkanning4970 2 года назад

@@leroy420b that’s not FCAW? Looked like a flux core mig welder

@quentinnine9441 2 года назад

@@leroy420b GMAW, or Gas Metal Arc Welding, is the general term for this process, including both MIG and MAG.

@fltchr4449 2 года назад

The original process used pure argon. Then CO2 was introduced and it was called CO2 MIG. Now even the big US companies accept MIG as jargon. One neat part about the CO2 is that it is split apart at the wire and recombines at the weld pool, affecting the characteristics of the welding. That's part of it being active.

@beemerwt4185 2 года назад

Wow. I know a lot of places don't come with 240V outlets built in--the amount of applications is pretty limited--but in a warehouse/garage setting like you guys are in you'd think they'd put at least one? Garages are most often one of few places where you might actually use it. Strange, but even weirder is that you guys haven't already had someone put one in!

@WhiteG60 2 года назад

Even if they had a 240V receptacle, it likely wouldn't have been 3 phase anyway.

@swampypolitics9574 2 года назад

480v would be 3 phase

@ElBach1y 2 года назад

American moment

@athhud 2 года назад

3 phase isn’t cheap. When you are doing pretend work for the RU-vid’s, it just wouldn’t be worth paying for. Of course if they had any clue as to what they were doing, that machine probably could have been setup to run on 240v single phase in less than 10mins.

@HawkXe 2 года назад

Right? I have 3 of them in my garage alone! 1 for water heater, 1 for dryer and 1 for my EV charger.

@balcy129YT 2 года назад

Yooo keep up the awesome content donut watching from Australia

@applebees3729 2 года назад

aye mate same

@Upbt50gt 2 года назад

Same mate

@brockg5672 2 года назад

@martinworboyes7529 2 года назад

“Aussie Aussie Aussie” I agree, also same here

@martinworboyes7529 2 года назад

“Aussie Aussie Aussie” I agree, also same here

@griestj 2 года назад

I just want to point out, the graphics in this episode are amazing and I appreciate seeing all of the improvements on the channel

@sieve5 Год назад

10:20 that's a cool little animation there!

@KiLDELTA 2 года назад

Mad respect for the senior mechanics out there who used and may still be using these older welders. They have the skills and the muscles to handle such machines.

@PYROWORKSTV 2 года назад

Despite working in one of the most modern steel mills around, we still work with these old machines and masks x) Only the newer workshops have the more modern masks and machines.

@RedmistAU 2 года назад

I will bet the house that the old welder has a higher duty cycle than the new one. also was the same wire used in both welders?

@nathanaelhiebert4590 2 года назад

There seems to be a lot of variables that were not considered in this test.

@felixchaus 2 года назад

Also the brand new out of the box mask would have same problems if it was dirty and set up to full darkness. I'd still weld with a 30 years old mask if I could find a headband for it, but now I use newer mask with peeping window. And mostly on newer automated mask I'we handled they actually have smaller window on them than on an older masks. And my eyes get sore using automated masks, they have short moment before darkening even when set to fastest setting

@nathanaelhiebert4590 2 года назад

@@felixchaus I agree, there are a fair amount of applications where a non-darkening helmet is better

@StreetForged 2 года назад

@@nathanaelhiebert4590 could you give some more examples out of curiosity? I use a 3 panel auto darkening helmet and the only time I've ever had a complaint is when I'm wedged under a car and can't turn my head the way I want

@kiwiskiz 2 года назад

Electronic and Electrical guy here. The old welder is running voltage controlled ripple DC meaning it's getting (in North America) pulses at 360HZ with full wave 3 phase rectification. The new welder will be operating at any given voltage at kHZ (most run in the 20 to 40kHZ range) meaning you have a vastly smoother DC arc being created, with much better active current control resulting in a smoother weld and less splatter.

@TheYellowDart2 2 года назад

All said that old Miller welder is pretty amazing. Not just a 50yr old design, but a 50yr old machine with decades of use on it. Not much tech from 50 years ago can contend with modern day/top of the line, counterparts.

@ninjamonkeyfpv8855 2 года назад

I'd love to have that old dinosaur welder.. We had one just like it in my collision repair class and it worked just as good(sometimes better)as the brand new welders we had..

@aidanszeghi2733 2 года назад

I think they should make more up to speeds

@VistaViews 2 года назад

Coming from someone with a decent amount of welding experience I can say that not every welder can run a welder. Some generators create a waveform that screws with the welder. Just throwing that out there.

@longobardir 2 года назад

This!! Run that welder off of shop 240v 3p and then see how good it welds. Unless genny was a true sine unit.

@derekhobbs1102 2 года назад

My dad was a production welder back in mid 70's through to 80's, so he probably used something similar to the old behemoth. Through the 90's, he was the neighbourhood welder that everyone knew about, but just using sticker welder on most materials, with great success.

@ben.taylor 2 года назад

I did welding at college. We had a machine we used for MMA which our tutor, at 70 years old, said HE'D been taught to weld using it. Compared to the other machines, it'd strike arcs easily, the strength of the finished products would be unparalleled and the slag coating would come off very easily. They don't make them like they used to. They really don't..

@goldzeriteminer 2 года назад

While I get where your coming from it seems you were using flux core arc not gas metal arc(MIG)

@ben.taylor 2 года назад

@@goldzeriteminer No it was MMA, manual metal arc/stick welding. The machine was shaped like a box, except absurdly heavier. It didn't even show a readout for the ampage, just a dial and that was it lol

@megaduffpuff2435 2 года назад

I had always wondered how my grandpa got so good at mig welding just casually doing it. But after seeing this I understand that the simple fact he had to put up with this would make him an insanely great welder

@CentralArkansasHomesteadandOff 2 года назад

I'd take one of those old machines over the new ones. They will weld every bit as well as a modern machine, but are far more reliable, and can run any process with it. Lots of weld shops are still using them today. I used one every dau for awhile. Like them a lot.

@vasilis23456 2 года назад

Remember pretty much every building has 240ish volt 3 phase power it's what most washing machines run on from the weird looking plug, it's just that those outlets are unlikely in modern garages. Other than that the newer welder is still a lot more portable and easy to use.

@trentonrichardson2846 2 года назад

With the old welder on your weave you can hear the voltage drop, that is a sign that your heat in the arc is cooling thus less penetration in the base metal. Learning more about mig welding would help with set up as well

@iamrjstar 2 года назад

It really depends on experience when it comes to welding.

@kevinkanning4970 2 года назад

Too true

@andrewfonseca2688 2 года назад

Just to remind, since the new mask only darkens after the sensors are triggered and the speed of light is so high, its always great to close your eyes just before you iniciate the electric arc, or your eyes will be exposed to the radiation for a little time. It doesnt deal much damage if you use that a few times, but it can cause you problems if you use this mask without doing this many times. But definetly the new mask is so much better to use, just dont forget that.

@RyanRiopel 2 года назад

I noticed doing many tack welds with the auto-helmet that my eyes were getting fatigued. That split second delay can really add up.

@EddSjo 2 года назад

The glass protects from uv even when the auto-dark doesn't work, so it really shouldn't be a problem.

@leroy420b 2 года назад

You don't know or understand the technology please refrain from giving people advice on using a helmet that's perfectly safe

@hatman4818 Год назад

This is gonna be interesting to see. For my first welder, I bought this ridiculous 12V battery powered welder barely used from army inventory (If you wanna look it up, it's Goweld brand I think). My main concern is that it's quite a bulky welding gun, so I'm interested to see how you guys do with the old welding gun.

@ericcuellar404 Год назад

The old welders were a world apart

@Lumbeelegend 2 года назад

It's badass that y'all kept at it with the old boy. Thanks guys

@chrisgenovese8188 2 года назад

I have a small flux core welder the size of a shoe box. It's pretty cool, and sufficient to weld up to 3/8" steel.

@kevinkanning4970 2 года назад

Self shield?

@chrisgenovese8188 2 года назад

@@kevinkanning4970 yeah, the wire has flux embedded in it. its a pretty handy welder for small projects and tight places.

@nickf3217 2 года назад

Solid testing, I appreciate the effort you guys put into your content, keep up the good work 👍

@GoldSrc_ 2 года назад

The old one will most likely outlive the new one lol. Also, the sensors in the hood don't look for "bright light", they just look for IR/UV light.

@nicofeigns3321 2 года назад

God I bet you’re fun at parties.

@axiom.ai.obviousbattletank7139 2 года назад

Does that mean if I pointed an IR blaster or TV remote at the mask that it would darken? Is IR bad for your eyes?

@nouns7504 Год назад

@@axiom.ai.obviousbattletank7139 every single thing in the universe is bad for you

@VoidHalo 7 месяцев назад

I've seen the thumbnail for this suggested to me like 20 times, and every time I keep thinking they're fuel pump handles. I think a comparison of fuel pumps/handles from the first ever made to modern ones would be a cool episode.

@chrisricetopher21 2 года назад

You guys should do a slo-mo right in the middle of Nolan’s ear fit test for those Raycons. Like a fast, slow, fast thing. My heart tells me the jiggle of his face is going under-appreciated.

@qshank2752 2 года назад

Wouldnt the older welder win since it shows a reading of force and didnt bend as easy? Seems the new one is a softer weld.

@aarongene9507 2 года назад

I believe that has more to do with the material and a higher temperature. I'd be willing to bed it would also crack significantly easier

@xtr0city 2 года назад

That's literally just the difference between the input voltages, the older 240v is applying a lot more heat and penetrating the material allowing the plates to join easier.

@InchFab 2 года назад

@@xtr0city current, not heat

@chimrichalds5205 2 года назад

That seemed like awfully thick steel to be trying to weld on a 120v, 15a circuit. 120v units are inherently underpowered for anything serious. 4 grand is an absolute joke for that output.

@InchFab 2 года назад

@@chimrichalds5205 4 grand is a joke for that millermatic. It's severely underpowered and kinda sucks all around. Multiprocess machines are terrible unless they're from ESAB.

@davieheartattack 2 года назад

I still prefer the old style welding helmet. Much better vision through the glass while welding. The automatic screens are handy for TIG welding though

@freedomofmotion 2 года назад

Are you adjusting your helmet? Should have a dial that starts are G ( for grinding) and go up from there, on the first level of auto darkening you should be able to see everything very very clearly when welding, almost like not having a mask at all, cept green - ish 😂. At full darkness levels it's about the equivalent of old school welding mask or goggles.

@PBMS123 2 года назад

Sorry what? How? Go try a 3M SpeedGlas and say that again,.

@davieheartattack 2 года назад

@@PBMS123 3m are terrible screens. Currently have an the latest Optrel that I supply to all my squad. I just prefer the glass.

@Faraway8721 2 года назад

Awesome video guys, love seeing good content on a great channel about welding. I started in the industry in 2009 in South Africa and it's taken me to very interesting places in the world. Flip top helmets arent all that bad though. With practice, keeping them clean, and selecting the correct shade for the material and process, they are just as good, if not better than auto darkening helmets, which, if they "lose sight" of the arc, by the sensor being obstructed in positional welding, they can flash on you, which is a sure fire way to hurt your eyes and mess up your weld. Still though, SOOOO cool to see proper welding videos, been watching for ages, but this one definitely gets the subscribe!!

@LifeInJambles 2 года назад

Definitely had troubles with an auto-darkening helmet being partially obstructed and flashing, and trying to reposition myself under a truck so the lens didn't have anything in front of it, only to realize the front spark shield thing was dingy and blocking part of the light. Auto-darkening helmets are great but can be problematic when you work in dirty areas and stuff. Ended up with a few seconds of flash total trying several things to get the sensor to pick up, assuming each one would work before finally just taking it off and resting my cup in position and doing a series of heavy tacks to get things put together temporarily. turning up the sensitivity is the only thing I found to make it actually work how it was supposed to a little later.

@InchFab 2 года назад

If you're looking through the lens of an auto darkening helmet, you'll never get a a true flash. Even when they're not activated, they filter 100% of the UV from an arc. Safety tech is way ahead of human brains.

@LifeInJambles 2 года назад

@@InchFab oh, rad. Well, it gave me a real fun headache anyway.

@GeekInJeep 2 года назад

@@LifeInJambles Totally agree. Add to that the risk of damaging a good auto-darkening hood. A GOOD auto-darkening hood is going to cost $300 to $500. A fixed shade hood is going to cost 1/10th of that. If you're in a rough environment, it's a lot of risk with a nice hood. I suppose since this is a car channel-not one about structural welding, I suppose this isn't a HUGE risk. I'm talking about structural outdoor stuff.

@LifeInJambles 2 года назад

@@GeekInJeep I mean if you're doing stuff on dirty old trucks and just prepping the area to be welded, using self-shielded mig and pretty up close to the weld with the spatter and grinding dust (including some greasy flap disc work that probably produced some smoke)... there are definitely plenty of situations where automotive stuff can be pretty messy. That's how I fouled my lens. Definitely a situation I don't expect to do most of my welding in, and I should have just disconnected the axle and did my work on a table but.... it seemed like a lot more work and I didn't see any reason the work shouldn't be done in-situ at the time.

@youngjesus5992 2 года назад

20yro Certified Spray Arc welder for Bluescope here. I weld steal as thin as 1/8" and up to 3in thick. It's just refreshing seeing other people enjoying the trade I'm apart of. Welding is so damn satisfying i highly recomend it to anyone. Great money as well $$$$$

@Thatdude877 2 года назад

I'm honestly so impressed that the 50 yr old welder performed as well as it did.

@mercenarystagehand 2 года назад

It looked to me like the new welder was running gas and the old welder was using flux core. Flux core always spatters more than gas

@revoker7968 2 года назад

The reason the old welder is at 480v is due to efficiency. Many industrial buildings will use these welder's since motors are already using that much power and it will save in electricity cost as well as vastly increase your duty cycle to the point of it being 100% on. Duty cycle is probably the highest reason that higher voltages are used.

@MrGreen876 2 года назад

One of our new miller welders went out at work one day. Coil overheated and melted through the insulation. Maintenance said they didn't have any replacement welders except one that has sat in the shop since the beginning of the company. An early 70's AirCo and I have to say. That was the absolute smoothest welder I've ever used. Good old crank handle tombstone

@Duncan-Donuts 2 года назад

In 50 years someone will do 100 year old welder vs 50 year old welder vs new welder.

@nfsfanAndrew 2 года назад

I doubt that new welder will last 50 years unless it's barely used.

@Duncan-Donuts 2 года назад

Well it could with proper care and service.

@eternalbeing3339 2 года назад

In 50 years robot ai will be doing the welding.

@SouthernIroc85 2 года назад

Older stick welders cannot be beat. As a welder I prefer them. No new boards to crash on you. Most new machines have 2+ board and they are $1500+ each to replace

@CoalitionGaming 2 года назад

keep this series of old vs new goin!

@amberlenfesty9018 2 года назад

I'm teaching myself stick welding, got a 90$ 120A DC welder off Amazon with a 30$ auto darkening helmet 🤷‍♀️ welding has gotten a lot more affordable than it used to be 10 years ago

@kevinkanning4970 2 года назад

Be careful with that hood, it’s better to spend the extra money getting quality gear than it is to lose your eyesight

@amberlenfesty9018 2 года назад

@@kevinkanning4970 it meets requirements, was 20$ off regular price... Seen the same hood in princess auto for like 5-10$ more lol Tooliom welding helmet meets the safety and technical standard of ANSI Z87.1 / EN379 CE / CSA Z94.3 4.8 star with 2800+ reviews lol