Before the 500s&w was created the .44 Magnum has been on many Alaskan hunts and rated one of the best Bear guns out there I wouldn't be afraid or feel under gunned with it but I do agree the 500 does offer a little more thump.
Smith and Wesson triggers especially the performance centers are the best. I had a 500 with the 10.5" barrel sold it was too big now I carry a snub 44 mag for big NY black bear. The muzzle brakes on the 500 make them extremely loud so you'll survive bear attack but with hearing damage ha ha!!
Electronic ear protection would be good. You can hear things as your hunting but when you shoot it will protect your ears. 4 shots out of mine and the ears rang for 3 days. Lot of flames to. Love those triggers
Yes but the cylender in that 500 magnum is a much bigger and heavier hunk of steel still slamming into the tiny piece in the frame that rotated the cylender. A small cylender in a 38/357 is much less then a 500 mag cylender, though you shouldn’t even do this with a 22 revolver
Chuke's Outdoor Adventures here is a good video of where I got my information on both companies. I think it is a fair video for information. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_PtMFQvQVdo.html
Not true, Ruger has always been stronger than S&W. This has been common knowledge for decades. It's interesting that in the information age people dont know this.
The .44 magnum would do just fine especially when you consider that you are more likely to get a second follow up shot on target. Also 0:50 don't cowboy the action it will last longer :)
@@10MinutestoRouletteFortune +p+ can be used as long as they're not over 310 grains (s&w 629, 29). Ruger's are also a lot thicker around the top strap. The 500 is a different ball park. The top strap is just as thick as any Ruger and it's forged steel.
@@emello4you Seems fair. Up here on Kodiak in the bush, one is silly to rely just on a handgun and is used as a backup if the damn thing is chewing on your leg after the poorly placed 45/70 shot somehow missed under the pressure of being charged. If you have never seen a 1000 lb Coastal Grizzly in person running 20 mph the sight alone might have you wishing you had a tank as it stands up 10 feet tall.
@@10MinutestoRouletteFortune I can't even begin to imagine how horrifying it would be. Reminds me of the movie with John Candy, The Great Outdoors with the huge brown bear chasing him lol. I'm pretty good with my S&w 44 magnums but I'd definately have to have my 870 with 3 inch slugs by my side.
@@emello4you It's definitely a butt pucker moment! 3 inch rifled slugs are a great option, but be very careful as when they get wet you can almost guarantee they will fail or shouldn't be trusted to save your life if they were. Up here that is a viable option but only if the slug is wax sealed. Brenneke Black Magic are the go to up bear slug here but aren't sealed. Shotguns and boats don't mix. We load them with 1 #3 buck for a warning shot at the ground that normally causes them to mosey off if they aren't heeding your verbal demands with the rest in slugs for when they start huffing or fake charging. Shoot them when they huff as it's only a second or two before they lunge. If you shoot it with a #3 you will piss it off! It's a good general home defense shell too. Benelli will eat anything and because of that are a popular choice.
Let me save you 9:39 seconds of your life.He's afraid of bears. He has a 10 mm, but he felt he needed something bigger, so he bought this 500. He really likes the way it looks. You're welcome.
Great choice. I want one. Just a note. The reason you get warned not to use heavy loads in the Smith and Wesson is that the Model 29 is an old design and there are 40+ year old guns out there that were never made for super heavy loads. Nothing wrong with steel or S&W. Your X Frame should serve you well. Now get out and shoot it and give us a review!!!
My 500 S&W is custom from SSK industries with a 13 3/4 inch bbl 16 holes on the top of the barrel on right side and Left in the front and 8 holes on bottom of the barrel and it will and has killed everything that walks this earth.
Use two loads from Buffalo Bore. Use 500 JRH aka 500 S&W Short Magnum in your revolver. It is a 1.4 inch cartridge case. And it has a 440 grain hardcast loading at 1350 fps and a loading with the same bullet at 950 fps. Practice with the 950 fps load and carry the 1350 fps load for protection from Alaskan Brown Bears. On the reason for having two muzzle brakes. The jacketed only muzzle brake has ports open around the front sight. The cast bullet muzzle brake closes those off and extends the porting out in front of the barrel slightly. Use the cast bullet all the time. It can handle the jacketed bullets just fine. I have the 6.5 half-lug long barrel X-frame 500. I also have a 5 inch muzzle brake 460 S&W X-frame. I use only the cast bullet muzzle brake on that one.
That 500 S&W can also chamber and fire safely 500 Special and 500 JRH aka 500 S&W Short magnum. The forged Smith and Wesson steel is stronger than the cast steel that must be machined down to tolerances. But cast steel is made heavier and thicker.
Exellent choice buddy! I got .500 myself, but in S&W PC version with 7.5 barrel. I'd probably wouldn't be able handle the recoil on a 4 incher. Haha... Have fun bro! Be safe too...
I'm sure you already had your question answered already, but the different brakes affect leading- only very slightly in my experience. You can shoot lead just fine in either one, but supposedly one causes less leading for cleaning. I've shot lead through both on my 460 just fine.
Chuke, much love to you and the channel but if you’re worried about wearing out the springs and few moving parts on the Glock 20, then I hate to see the fortune you’ve spent on 10mm. Glocks are by and large the AK of handguns. I’ve trusted my life to one for years against humans and those are not only the most dangerous game, they’re way more likely to come across your path and ruin your day. Keep it up my brother!!
Well hell no matter how BIG your gun is you still have a problem . Your scared and you MISSED so maybe you need to learn how to out RUN THE BEAR haaaa .
Yeah they say not to shoot soft lead with the ported pistols becauset the lead ammo can shed or splinter little grumbs buts of lead and can come backward. I had small bits of lead hit me in the face and a couple of them.went into my ear.
That's one cool revolver brother. I've always wanted to shoot a 500 but have yet to have a chance. If I lived where you did I would choose the 500 as well. Always bring enough gun!
Great Video. I own a Smith & Wesson, Model 500, 170255, Frame is Black Glass-bead black finish, the cylinder is Glass-bead Stainless finish, Performance Center special order. Only 500 made for Dicks Sporting Goods? Year 2006, Barrel length 7 ½”, 5 rounds, 15” total length, Stainless Steel, weights 71 oz. Which of the below ammo would be a good bear killer? I notice you stated you used the 350 grain, please explain? I shot the Winchester 400 grain, PTHP, platinum tip, and couldn’t get the case out of the cylinder on every round shot. I had to use a hammer and punch to remove them. I called S&W, they said send it back. I did this 3 times, they never fix the problem, have you had any symptoms like this? I’ve tried brass & steel cases. 500 S&W, 300 grain, Evolution, Hornady, Muzzle=2060 fps, 50 yds=1861 fps, 100 yds=1685 fps 500 S&W, 350 grain, XTP/Magnum, Hornaday, Muzzle=1900 fps, 50 yds=1656 fps, 100 yds=1439 fps 500 S&W, 350 grain, JHP, reduced recoil, Winchester, Velocity, 25 yds, 50 yds, 75 yds, 100 yds, 150 yds, 200 yds 1400 1310 1031 1163 1106 1020 956 500 S&W, 500 grain, FPXTP, Hornaday, Muzzle=1425 fps, 50 yds=1281 fps, 100 yds=1164 fps 500 S&W, 400 grain, PTHP, platinum tip, Winchester 500 S&W, 440 grain, Hard Cast, CoreBon, Muzzle=1625 fps, Energy 2580 ft/lbs
Hello, I carry this,same holster,and load it with Underwood Ammo 350gr. Extreme Penetrator which will do what a 500gr. hard cast will do,but with less recoil. I'm 3"@30yds.open sights.Practice,practice, practice! Stay away from Armscore ammo it's trash ammo.... 👍 10ft.👣
I too have always been impressed the the 500. However, I've been looking in to the S&W .460 Magnum. It shoots just under the ballistics of the 500 and at 100 meters is close to the same. Another plus is, you can shoot 454 Casull as well as 45 Colt ammo. So you can practice with the 45's and for protection, use the Casull's or the 460's. Both are on X frames. Just my two cents!
You can buy the rapid reloader pouches, or the extra cartridge holders, separately. Expensive as hell, but they are available to order, to my knowledge.
10mm ammo cheap??? I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I know a little about S&W revolvers, those walls are so thick, ain't no cases going to bustin that gun up. That X frame is a beast! Good video! I bet that baby hurts a little 😏
As with any ported gun, lead will clog up the holes. If the truth be known, it comes with an unported insert? I own a John Ross Custom 5" unported S&W because I don't like the extra noise of porting.
Modern S&W magnum revolvers are fine with 95% of ammo out there. The issue I've read deals with young guys putting buffalo bore +p into their inherited 40+ year old grandpa dirty harry .44 mag revolvers that were never designed for such loads.
The deeper I got into this video the more I disagree with you. Missing isn't changed by buying a bigger gun. You can buy all the new toys but, accuracy and proficiency is KING.
Use the lead bullet muzzle brake exclusively. Why? Because the lead bullet muzzle brake also shoots jacketed bullets just fine. And additionally the muzzle brake design covers the upper ports of the barrel creating a seal to make the 4 inch barrel a truly 4 inch barrel. It extends the upper port out front of the front sight makes it a 4.25 inch total barrel length. I do this with my 460V muzzle brake as it has two and the cast bullet one is the one I use exclusively for the reasons above.
I would like to find a black holster like that for my interarms Virginian dragoon in 44 magnum, has I believe an 8” barrel. I would like to see some videos of you doing single action revolvers in 44 magnum, I know many people carry blackhawks etc as a back up, and unfortunately my dragoon is the only 44 mag I own as I got it for only $300, my other handguns are 45acp but my Glock can convert to 10mm with a barrel and maybe recoil spring.
...if i dont feel comfortable with .44 mag im bringing my .458 socom...500 mag is GREAT for hunting a bear...TOTALLY CAPABLE even optimal in some circumstances, but that cannon in a leather rig is NOT what id want in a full on surprise rush, i feel i'd be better off with 10mm/.460 in kydex on a really solid chest rig...more rounds, less movement, lighter, plus the all important less recoil/faster follow up...sounds like a good comparison video?
What would be cool is like a johnny jumper suspenders like a racing seat harness made out of double thick western saddle leather double or triple quality line stitched . With a front center mounting bracket with multiple ports and durable lashing to attach different holsters of choice with a good strong belt buckle style side lashing to sinch into .
Get Underwood 420 grain extreme penetrator ammunition for grizzly protection. I wear a Simply Rugged chest rig with a 5 round loop cartridge holder and belt strap. Perfect setup to me. Oh, and absolutely no retention straps, just friction hold.
Cast bullet muzzle-brake shoots jacketed bullets just fine. Use the cast bullet muzzle-brake and you will be better off. Cast bullets in jacketed will make the lead plug the top ports and make the muzzle-brake hard to remove and clean.
Perfect 💯✨ Decision Boss.350gr Perfect.I have One and I have problem with 440gr. Bullet. But 350gr Beautiful I'm shooting 70 rounds and I have no Problem.Enjoy My friend and take care about you self.Bless
Chuke, You were 100%, 10 mm Glock 20, now you're pulling out a S&W 500. I borderline a bear sanctuary in NC. What's the deal??? I used to carry a 44 mag working around the yard, then switched to the Glock 20SF because of your video.
Joey BaggaDonuts yeah I go back and forth a lot...semi autos scare me because of jamming issues. i havent given up on 10mm though...getting another g20 soon...I do feel safe with the g20...just wanted something really big for the giant Alaska browns...
Thanks for getting back to me, Chuke. I saw a black bear that was at least 700 lbs on my property once. He took off when I pulled out my phone to take a picture of him. I hope the 10 mm Underwood Deep Penetration ammo takes him down if he decides to charge at me next time. I enjoy your video channel.
The first few seconds of this video tells me you're not revolver man, no one ever gangster slaps the cylinder like that? Good way to destroy the guns lockup!
Also something to consider. When you are out and about, you I imagine carry other gear with you, or say you killed a caribou and have a hand full with stuff, can you accurately pull and shoot that cannon with one hand if it where necessary? Or imagine you trip or have some kind of accident and one of your hands or arm gets injured, now you have to rely on one hand or off hand shooting, chances are you will fair better with a more controllable 10mm then you will a 6 rd 44 mag, or. 5 shot 500 magnum, that I’d be curious to see if the revolver even stayed in your hand after one shot with one hand. If it can happen, the chances are it will. That’s why in shooting drills you practice off hand or weak hand or even dominant non supported. Carry what you can hit accurately and hit your target with, both with both hands and with one or the other. If the 500 is next to impossible on the 500 or even 44 magnum, why stake your life and possibly the lives of whoever you may be with on “next to impossible”
DiamondDCustom makes a synthetic material chest holster now. It is a great design and more durable than the vegetable tanned leather they use. I have two leather models for lower 48 but you might like the new design for wet Alaska Chuke.
Hey, from what I have heard from very experienced people about the ports and lead ammo. I've been told that lead will smear and obstruct/block ports over time. FMJ only with a ported firearm is a wise choice.....BTW, I wish that was my 500 mag, some day.....
Can u shoot this gun effectively! Would love to see u shooting it! I have a tolkat, I’m pretty effective with it, a guy i was stationed with in alaska was an army ranger and he had .500 smith, i think its called the backpacker i shot it a few times it wasn’t bad because of the compensator, but it just did t feel right to me, i must say the trigger was really smooth!
Love the gun!! Like others have probably said, the recoil gives you one shot and in a high pressure situation that’s a risk. I’d go 45-70 or short barrel shotgun with slugs/buckshots.. I’d go 10mm as a backup. Much better chance of unloading several shots with descent placement.
It’s a great revolver, but that 4” barrel isn’t going to do you nearly as well as a 9” barrel. The 500mag is my round of choice as well, but I really think you’d be better off with a longer barrel man.
Chuke's Outdoor Adventures I can honestly say, my 9” barrel is rather unwieldy, but practice makes perfect lol rock on man! I’ll be buying a 4” 500 or 460 at some point. I like to think of myself as an accumulator rather a collector lol that way I don’t have to justify every purchase I make 😂
This is a perfect example of a guy excited with his new toy. Good thing he made a RU-vid video and the habit of slamming the cylinder open and close was caught by others who know better, and have warned him that doing so can damage the weapon. A better action would be to keep the gun in the package, and go to a gun club where an instructor will instruct you about proper gun care for that particular gun. How many others have gotten a gun and mistreat them because of not getting proper training for them. Mistreat that weapon, and you may loose your life at the wrong moment due to failure of gun performance. Just because one has had other guns before does not mean they know how to properly handle new different ones. Different firearms can have different manners of proper handling, and proper care and maintenance. ALWAYS...ALWAYS get properly trained and certified for each model and type of firearm, to get the best out of them, and prolong their performance. Firearms are to me like fire stinguishers. You have them there, you service them; but hope you never have to use them. But, if you need them, its when you bless them for being there for you when you suddenly need them most.
A 44 Mag will drop even a Grizzly. The recoil from that 500 makes it just as much a liability as a asset, that being said provided you hit the target said target will become a one shot kill or at minimum no longer will be able to charge. I own a Desert Eagle 44 and 50AE and am confident either caliber can get the job done.
Don't worry about strength on that revolver man. Also Rugers are cast and thicker, I do believe the 45colt rugers have longer cylinders so those are ruger only rounds. The raging bull can also handle the 44mag +p+ it's not that the steel is worse it's just thinner
Serious question, because I don't understand being from Detroit, why would you ever go to a place like that by yourself. To me your asking to become just another sad story
