Surprised there was not a bit of help. I have seen a petrol soaked rag used too. I think a bit of something would reduce the litres of unburnt fuel breathed out the exhaust. Maybe even some preheating.
Help me out there, what is that? Just a good rage quit tantrum or something like an additive to put into the engine? I know nothing about this stuff. Obvious, isn't it?
@@nomon95 These things aren't used in urban subway environments. These rail systems are exclusively electrically operated. BR Class 50 as seen here does not take this long to start when it's working properly. This is a badly preserved locomotive.
@@paulanderson79 WRONG This was during "The Beast from the East" Also, this loco is using a 1962 (DP2) engine. Mechanical injector system and no cold start aids.
The class 50 has a reputation for sustained heavy smoking exhausts on start up, a preserved railway had a 50 with a shed in a town centre, the railway agreed not to start up the 50 on shed due to the complaints from the public, it would be hauled somewhere else on the line for the startup. Used to live at Hayes on the GW mainline, the 50s would leave Paddington and be reaching line speed of (I think 100 mph) through Hayes station, at 100 mph the50 would fly through the station the EE engine making a memorable deep bass booming sound, delightful!
“Absolutely beautiful music”?, farts sound infinitely more beautiful than this ugly polluting crude-noise maker. Even London Underground trains from the 1920’s looked and sounded attractive than this junk.
Does anyone have any problems with their PD engine messing up the oil really quickly? I think it's because oil pressure is used to activate the injectors, and the oil pressure for that is astronomical!
That white smoke is unburned diesel fuel. The starter is cycling the engine to warm the combustion chambers. Only when you hear the cylinders popping and the smoke changing colors are the cylinders coming on line. They are rarely if ever shut down as long as this old girl was.
I remember seeing these Hoovers thundering through Surbiton at 75 MPH!!!! I can still hear the sound as they hit that bridge just south of the station!!
If I close my eyes and just listen, I can see an old John Deere A pulling the hay rack out to the field.. What awesome locos these must have been. Thanks for the upload.
I used to rebuild marine Diesels and I laterally have no idea how or why any Diesel would struggle that much to start, and I've started them with blow lamps !
This is typical for an English Electric on a cold morning. Only barely enough compression to fire at all, no glowplugs of any kind. She cranks until a few cylinders start to hit, and then those cylinders keep the engine turning as it gradually warms up and comes alive. Eventually the driver revvs it slightly to get the last few cylinders firing and the engine ready to pull.
I remember when this loco was a nice interesting green with a black and gold line down the center and lovely black 'n' brass number plates and name plate...."SIR EDWARD ELGAR"
This Loco is in need of repair, head gaskets injectors etc, i worked with these engines for 10 years as a Shunter at Penzance, and the class 50 Locos would cover 1000 miles in 24 hours every day. Penzance to Paddington, Padd to Birmingham, then to Oxford, then Swansea, back to Padd, then Penzance. This one isn't the norm.
Believe me, cold start up of an SNCF CC72000 is worse. I lived in a railwayman's hostel overlooking the stabling point at Nancy a few years ago. At 3am one winter morning I was woken up not by the noise but by the stink of diesel fumes even though the window was closed! A beast of a machine the CC72000, the old hoover is most civilised in comparison, lots of happy memories of watching them on the GWML in Cornwall in the 80s...
@@johngoodale4961 I found this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zMcp8HDn47E.html I just love the SNCF Voyages inscription on the side at 4.53. Only knobs from marketing who've never seen one in the flesh could be responsable for that...
Reminds me of my Scania V8 143-420 back in the day. It stood like this on a cold winter day for a long time. So i drew the handthrottle back(yes they had one back in the days) and went to shower before I'd take off. Came out, and the poor cold 14,3 liter Scania engine was revving at 2000 rpm. That really hurt me. But no, the engine took no damage. Pew
I grew up around BR and rode the rails all my childhood and adolescence, I enjoy trains but I don't have a clear understanding why the old English Electric, BREL and Sulzer locos are so hard to start even after sitting just a couple of days. Can anyone share why that is?
Fantastic diesel engine! So Clean Running! Well! It's white smoke! Fantastic pulling machine sure if it's looked after it would never ever stop running
Yes that's exactly what happened they came flapping with their walkie-talkies thinking it was on fire! The driver was stood cool as a cucumber next to me watching them before they enquired if it had a driver with it!
that's kind of the way to do it. you see that with my old Chevy in the dead of winter get it going after it did a little starting die a few times crank over crank over once and it was going to stay running and warm up walk back inside have a couple coffee
Love the EMT goons in a flap over a bit of clag John ! Good job I wasnt there with my jump leads 'ala 20142 and 37240' if you remember all those years ago John !!!
It might appear leaving these things ticking all night to be an environmental no no, until you see a cold start-up like this. Damn it and I thought our buses were awkward.
I was never that fond of them in the 70s and 80s (EE’s earlier work was far better), but actually they’re not bad looking locos. I must be getting old.
GBRF have just done a tie up with the 50 fund & 50007 & 50049 are due to emerge from Eastleigh works in full GBRF cols, they are used on railtours & odds & sods stuff really. They are doing a railtour from London - Penzance & back this coming Saturday
@ RODALCO2007 48 cells 2.2v each giving 105.6v. Auxiliary gen charges and runs the auxiliaries at 110v once up and running. Keep zapping those pesky wasps Sir !!!
If you look the driver takes his finger off the start button at 1 minute 50 on the video & the revs drop slightly before slightly recovering where it's just about self sustaining. Yes unburnt diesel vapour most of it
The driver takes his finger off the button around 1 min 50 if you look at him. So after that it slowly picks up by itself until most of its 16 cylinders are firing! As for taking power I'd have thought it'd need to warm up for a while!
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Daft question but I'm not a train afficianado so forgive me. What is the white smoke? Is that unburned diesel? It looks rather like steam. If it is unburned fuel wouldn't everything end up coated in diesel?