505 - Using the "Kelley Strap" for Indirect Punch Percussion Flintknapping 

Thank you Kelly for solving my problem with a simple "why didn't I think of it", elegant solution! And of course multitude of Thank Yous to "Mr. Crafty" for obvious reasons!

This video just changed *everything* about my knapping! I am a small woman, 5'0", with child-sized hands (seriously, they're small-- I can't wear adult gloves); I'm fairly strong from weaving and other crafts, but I've been working at knapping for a year now and still having trouble driving long flakes. So I watched this, tried a strap... and damned if it didn't work like a charm! Thank you HUGELY! I have a ton of obsidian I gathered out at Obsidian Tank here in AZ that's just waiting to be knapped, and this should really help.

You’re like the Swiss Army knife of knapping. I too have trouble holding the tool under my knee. Thanks the information and the videos. Tom

I love telling people that I’m going home to Knapp or I have a couple friends coming over to Knapp with me and watching their expressions! Lol. I get all kinds of reactions like silence and confused or they go into how the need a nap as well lol but it opens the door to inform people of this lost trade.

Thinking about primitive people and the evolution of tools, sitting around the fire or cave and one sharing a subtle idea or experience with another, and the world became a little better. One knapper shared the strap idea with another, he then took it to the next level and added to the idea by adding additional tips and alternative strapping placement. We are still those primitive people creating and sharing for the better. Great idea. Thank you and Mr. Kelly.

Thank you for sharing this please have a great day

Absolutely brilliant!!! I'm going to explore this method.

Thanks to you & Kelley for the hints & video. I used a foam swimming noodle(small size) over the delrin rod which added stability for holding the tool in place.

Thank you Jack , been tring to hold one under my knee ,but was hard .

Older video, but I have an Ishi stick coming in the mail today. Good tip!

Boy, was this one helpful.I was having a heck of a time trying to figure out how to hold the tool. The only instruction I get is from you and others on you tube.Thanks so much

That helped me immensely. I'm a paraplegic. I knew I would have to find a solution like this. Thanks a lot for this time saving tip. Keep up the good work and I'll certainly keep watching and supporting your channel. It seems from reading all the other comments you're number one on the hit parade. How cool is that? :-)

Brilliant

This video was really helpful thanks 🙏🏻

Pat, when you first started as Allergic Hobitt I watched your channel. At that time, to use your technique I used a U.S. army helmet band to hold the Ishi stick on top of my leg, just like you have shown with your belt. Sorry that I didn't think to share that with you back then.

I like that way I use a big rubber band it works great Gene Gorringe Mi 👍✌️🇺🇲

I started knapping a couple of weeks ago. Keeping that dang thing under my calfless knee/leg is impossible. Angels were singing when this popped up on my feed. Thanks a bunch!

Awesome

Multiple tools is just badass

great!! i´ve been using a strap aswell for the indirect...as i started the methode you use. i had problems holding it aswell...and the strap works amazing!

Glad you showed the video.I think anybody wanting to try indirect could benefit from the demo.I for one certainly can't hold it behind my knee,I've tried every posture possible to no avail.

Magic.

Brilliant, a real AH HA moment and a Why didn't I think of that.

I will be stealing this idea for sure.

Hello Jack, this really works well for me as a beginner. Still busting off tips but having fun!!

Thanks I will try it

Yet another helpful tip! Thanks!

Thanks for the info and.demo. Keep um coming brother.. Will try this and thank Kelly for me.

I have had great results when holding the flaker under my knee but I am almost always wearing cargo shorts or a kilt and in Texas the back of the knee get slippery fast. This solves a lot of problems, can't talk more gotta go outside and try this.

simply great! It will help me a lot!

Neat

thank you!!! I'll finally b able to hold the thing now.

Yeah I find I am too skinny to keep my stick under my knee i have no flesh to keep it tucked in tight. This method could really help.

Can you do a how to video? I just got my indirect oercussion flaker and I’m not sure how to use it because I’m not getting big/normal flakes. I’m also not sure if I got the right diameter. Mine is 3/4”.

I'll have to try that. I just can't get the hang of putting something behind my knee without it wobbling around all over the place. Looks like I'll have to find me a strap somewhere.

And where can I find the stick That you are using for your indirect percussion?

Great idea was wondering how to keep the stick stable

holy cow this is going to save me some time.

So I'm curious about what diameter size rod you feel works best for this indirect percussion? I enjoy the videos to learn more about knapping. I have really come to love doing this and one of these days hope to make it to Flint Ridge or Letchworth. Living in Kansas doesn't offer much in the line of material or other knappers.

Maybe put some velcro on the stick and the pants so it does not rotate?

So very cool! Good video, could I ask you what those white dowels are made of and where I might be able to buy some?

What would be the difference if I used hard wood instead of plastic?

Any relation to Judy or hoot Elkins of the old prineville Oregon rock shop by any chance ,?

Thank you Patrick this was very helpful. what pens do you use to write on your arrowheads?

Love your Channel. Your work is beautiful. I am just starting Knapping. Just wondering how you get flakes to run to clear a face with percussion.

Funny - I just came in from knapping to order material for a new tool. My 1 1/4" dia rod is 12" long and that is too short for me. I am going to remake at 18"

Does a broom stick work?

Niiice!

I have tried to nap but the flint or chart I find is so hard you can't even chip it with a hammer an i also tried glass I don't have good tools yet mine broke lol

I notice your KEAN 105 shirt... Are you from the Abilene TX area?

Jack I have a question about indirect percussion. Well actually its about support with indirect percussion. I seem to be snapping my points in half between my thump and forefinger. Will you offer me clues on how to hold my work piece without breaking it where I'm holding it. Thanks a bunch, Ken

Is Kelly Native American?

Web belt

What are your stick made of? Nylon or possibly high density plastic?

3:30 this is what my Exwife always said, I never knew what she meant

Huge waste of time he went on and on never did show striking anything you talk most people out of the end!!!

Your doing it wrong