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57-80 harley ironhead generator polarize or flash 

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@benitohernandez5086
@benitohernandez5086 Год назад
Your channel is gonna save me a shit ton of headaches. I'm new to the Harleys went in head first and got a 77 and 80 Sportsters and a 79 fxe Super glide electric. Wish me skill.
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop Год назад
Hell yeah man! Just remember these are simple tractor engines, don't overthink anything. I'm going to have more shovel content than ironhead for the foreseeable future.
@chrisatkins7959
@chrisatkins7959 3 года назад
I’ve always had a charging problem on my 77. Never knew about this. Thanks and subbed.
@bobbymanns9173
@bobbymanns9173 8 лет назад
Marcus thing that was exactly what I needed to say I just recently got a 74 Ironhead and I need to polarize the generator cause I have to change the battery thank you so much
@user-fc8xr2dh3y
@user-fc8xr2dh3y 3 года назад
I have a 1973 ironhead that I got as a basket case, mostly apart, and almost completely missing the wiring harness. PLEASE HELP!! Would love to see a video on a simple way to wire everything up just to see if the motor will fire. I'm not sure exactly how to connect everything between battery, generator, coil, key switch etc simply enough just to get it started before investing in a full wiring harness.
@BLkamaji
@BLkamaji 9 лет назад
I just got a 77 Ironhead. I have so many questions! This will definitely come in handy. I'm having some charging issues currently. Need to test the generator.
@password34
@password34 6 лет назад
I'm new to building bikes and totally kept draining my battery because I never polarized it.. Thanks mate!!
@hawg_pound
@hawg_pound 3 года назад
my battery keeps draining! did this solve your problem?
@Unaffiliated
@Unaffiliated 3 года назад
@@hawg_pound yeah new generator 😅
@smithr3901
@smithr3901 2 года назад
is it same procedure if i have a 69 xlch with magneto and no battery would you just set a battery next to the bike.
@edmondndrecaj4377
@edmondndrecaj4377 3 года назад
I recently purchased a 70 ironhead sporster 900 kick only and, the red and the green wire that you have on where are they going to, I'm trying to figure out a simple wiring pretty much taillight and a headlight only
@raystarky3896
@raystarky3896 2 года назад
Great informative video Thank you! Question; when doing this procedure is it necessary to have the "ignition switch ON? or OFF?"
@tubedude54
@tubedude54 6 лет назад
I have a 76 ironhead (bought new) that I have gone thru many batteries over the years. Never did I know I had to polarize the generator when I changed the battery. Bike always ran fine and the battery charged up. Now the generator light just blinks weakly when I run it (should burn steady and bright). Has time finally caught up to me and I need a new generator or regulator? Engine also cuts in and out when you drive it and can't get up to speed. How can I tell which one is bad?
@Highclasslowlife5150
@Highclasslowlife5150 7 лет назад
Just bought a 77 ironhead and the previous owner put a new battery in it and I've rode it for like 2 days and now it's dead lol I bet it's because he didn't flash it after throwing the battery in it this is the first thing I'm gonna try
@franciscovillasenor1775
@franciscovillasenor1775 9 месяцев назад
Does matter the side on the wires to the coil? I mean, for the magneto left side or right side? Same position your coil
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 9 месяцев назад
If you're talking about the plug wires, no, old point fired garleys have what's called wasted spark. Both plugs fire each time the points close. If your talking about the wires from the ignition to the coil, it depends on what coil you have. Some it matters, others it doesn't. That's mostly with electronic ignition though. Most points, if I remember right, will work either way.
@collegedude1983
@collegedude1983 9 лет назад
Is it the same process if my '76 Ironhead has had the alternator conversion kit put on? I def have a charging issue and its a new battery so I'm looking for the next steps as in testing of regulator, alternator and possibly polarizing it as I've heard it may be that simple. Thanks in advance!
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 9 лет назад
Hey im sorry about the late reply. I answered your question in the comments section.
@chrisbroadus3444
@chrisbroadus3444 7 лет назад
Whats the name of the voltage regulator that you have in the front instead of the rear?
@jonprice4252
@jonprice4252 5 лет назад
Marcus, thanks for this informative video. Couldn’t help but notice the primary cover gasket looks like maybe copper... am I right? Who make that? That has to be a great idea to limit leaks. Thank you!
@mourningsmile6882
@mourningsmile6882 4 года назад
QUESTION!! I have a pan shovel, there is a R and a L, the R goes to the positive on my battery. What is the “L” I feel like it should be a ground but idk because the “L” wire is missing... FYI I bought my dads bike like this...I need help please answer someone if you know!!! Thankyou!!
@scotthughes3758
@scotthughes3758 Год назад
Hey great work, I have a 73 shovel and what I have run into is the back cylinder is the number one and front is actually back is this for real,any input would be greatly appreciated thanks again and dig what you do helps more than you know brother
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop Год назад
I've never seen that. I know on pre 75 (I think) bikes there is a timing mark for TDC (top dead center) front and BDC (bottom dead center) front, one is a dot, the other is a vertical line. and BDC front is the same as TDC rear every few revolutions. Easy way to tell is shine a light down the spark plug hole, or stick a screwdriver in it once you have one of the timing marks in the timing home. If you hit the rear piston, your at BDC on the front, find the other mark.
@scotthughes3758
@scotthughes3758 Год назад
I’ll give her a go and let you know thanks for getting back to me much appreciate you
@ryantruax13
@ryantruax13 8 лет назад
Just to clarify, as I'm still fairly green to this electrical business, if I'm attempting the same deal as what you're doing here I hook the jumpers up to the battery and then positive to the "A" terminal, do I need to ground the the one that's hooked up to the negative?
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 9 лет назад
CRT if you have an alternator there shouldn't be any need to polarize it. I would move on to your voltage regulator. They fail pretty regularly if they are stock. Im not around my tech manual right now but if memory serves me right, you should be able to check you charging system by putting an voltage meter on it. You should make 12.5 ish volts at idle and roughly 14.2ish at around 2000-2500 rpm. If you make over 13 at idle or 15 at 2500 your volt regulator needs replaced. If you make under 12.5 or 14.2 then your alternator might be going out.
@itsapodcastrophe
@itsapodcastrophe 5 лет назад
Hey I have a 71 Ironhead...ya have any vids on carberateur work...replace or rebuild.
@georgewilliams2539
@georgewilliams2539 4 года назад
I got an 81 xlh 1000..engine cranks but no soark..bike had no battery in it for over a month...I got no spark n it ran before batt was re oved... do I need to flash my gen?
@christopherclanton6255
@christopherclanton6255 8 лет назад
my 75 Harley sportster xlch, when I turn ignition on an hit the start button I just hear a click but no starter engaging or motor turnover, not sure if it's the relay sound or starter solenoid sound, have any ideas why this may be, also I did not polarized gen first?
@michaelblew6019
@michaelblew6019 Год назад
Thanks ,,my manual says positive cable to generater terminal,,doesn't say which one,this clears it up
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop Год назад
Glad I could help!
@jayblue5310
@jayblue5310 5 лет назад
Thats not a magnet its a graphite armature brush they cost about $10.00 a set
@jayala1016
@jayala1016 4 года назад
how can i polarize megneto on my 1970 ironhead ( no batt-on bike ) thank you
@allhumansarejusthuman.5776
@allhumansarejusthuman.5776 5 лет назад
Did you just call your replacable graphite brushing magnets? There are no permanent magnets in harley gennys, that's why the need polarization from time to time.
@randomk7
@randomk7 9 лет назад
Thanks Bro just what I needed:]
@The-Big-Cheesey1
@The-Big-Cheesey1 8 лет назад
the part you referred to as a magnet is not a magnet it's the brushes and the magnet is inside the gen case,jus saying, nice video n helpful
@matcltn
@matcltn 5 лет назад
There are no magnets in a generator, the plates become electomagnets when charged with electricity
@lukebishop1986
@lukebishop1986 9 лет назад
Hey Marcus, Great video. I'm wiring my pan at the moment without a battery. It's got a mag for ignition. Genny will just run headlight and tail. I haven't got a spare battery sitting around, can I flash it with a car battery? And do you have any other tips for wiring without a battery? I have a 65a genny. Electric franks reg, a circuit breaker and that's about it. Thanks in advance Luke
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 9 лет назад
hey Luke I'm pretty sure you can polarize with a car battery. and I haven't got the chance own anything with a mag yet...so I'm sorry but I'm clueless on your pan. if you find out though let me know!
@lukebishop1986
@lukebishop1986 9 лет назад
+Marcus D thanks for the quick reply. I'll keep you posted
@janmello8156
@janmello8156 4 года назад
Hey what if you get no flash when polarizing generater
@boogiemanjoe4905
@boogiemanjoe4905 4 года назад
Is that a cycle electric generator?
@elliottneville1801
@elliottneville1801 7 лет назад
hi is the reg connected to the battery when you flashed it?
@jamesp976
@jamesp976 9 лет назад
I've done it twice when my bike is running and doesn't seem to be workin should I try when bike is off my bike is a 74 ironhead or should I go ahead and buy I new generator ???? and if so are they easy to install
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 9 лет назад
hey man I missed your comment sorry!! try it while it's off. you can't reverse the polarity when it's already making a magnetic field! but if you do it while with the motorcycle OFF and it doesn't help take your battery to autozone and get it checked. if it's good replace the voltage regulator, if that doesn't fix it then the genny. and yes they are easy to install, two bolts and a few wires.
@boblajoiesr591
@boblajoiesr591 2 года назад
Thanks marcus
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop Год назад
Thanks! go ahead and hit that subscribe man, I'm going to start posting a lot more. I think the 8 year break was enough lol.
@333peacock333
@333peacock333 8 лет назад
where does the black wire go? does it go the positive side or negative. I've hooked it to the positive side but it just makes the regulator hot..
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 8 лет назад
the red and green wires go to my voltage regulator that's bolted on the front of the genny. then the black wire goes from volt regulator to the positive battery terminal. if your getting hot parts then you might need to rebuild or replace the genny and replace the voltage regulator.
@333peacock333
@333peacock333 8 лет назад
Crazy its a brand gen and voltage regulator. I'll try it right now. Thanks homie.
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 8 лет назад
+333peacock333 damn if it's brand new then there is something some where not hooked up right. getting hot means it's not sending it's voltage to the battery. it might be acting like an electric motor and sucking power from the battery if it's polarized to the negative from putting regulator wire on the neg terminal. hook everything up normally. volt regulator to the positive battery terminal. then try polarizing it like in the video.
@TommyGunnzCore
@TommyGunnzCore 9 лет назад
Am I supposed to connect the generator to the battery afterwards? if so how?how does this charge the battery if its just wired to the regulator?
@DWchopshop
@DWchopshop 9 лет назад
no, the genny connects to your voltage regulator. the generator puts out way too much voltage for your battery, your regulator makes sure the batter doesn't get overloaded. but you have to set the polarity correct on the genny so it puts out + voltage instead of -.
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 6 лет назад
genny is wired to reg, reg is wired to bat. the regulator uses small relay switches to shunt voltage to ground through a set of resistors. that shunting only occurs if the voltage is too high for battery health, and by design the relay and resistors act as a voltage divider with the "bat" tap only seeing voltages that charge the battery in a healthy manner, lol. the relays are like a bank of turn signal flashers, and the "ign" terminal on the regulator is hooked to a "master" relay that only connects the "bat" tap when the ignition is on, preventing the battery from bleeding to ground through the resistors. the regulator has a few sets of contact points, and bimetal springs, and electromagnets. all those fidgety bits basically mean most charging problems are regulator related, unless the genny has a mechanical issue (like completely worn out brushes as above)
@dougankrum3328
@dougankrum3328 8 лет назад
....Well....decent video, so thumbs up...but there at 0:25...those aren't 'magnets'...they're called brushes.... Generators...I have a 46 Knuck and 72 sportys (2).....I found a easy fix with bolt-on alternator from Steve Fredricks at Joe Hunt Magnetos out here in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento) calif....10 amps at idle...16 at 2,000...uses the Harley black box alternator type regulator....no brushes to wear out....been running them for over 15 years... These same units have been advertised in V-Twin Cycle catalog and other places...all are the Steve Fredricks units... Nothing wrong with the old HD generator and relay type regulator....you just need to do regular maintenance...and replace commutator end needle bearing with a ball bearing...
@jeffreyrenshaw8427
@jeffreyrenshaw8427 8 лет назад
hey do I have to have my key on or off .thanks
@bobox6073
@bobox6073 5 лет назад
Where is ur cdi unit? Let me guess iron head done have one or don't need one ?
@jimmycann160
@jimmycann160 4 года назад
Bo Box ironheads use mechanical points, unless it’s a later model it might have electronic ignition.
@jimmycann160
@jimmycann160 4 года назад
Bo Box and there’s the older irons that have magnetos
@bellmelvin90
@bellmelvin90 4 года назад
Thank you
@RevolutionRadio1
@RevolutionRadio1 9 лет назад
my generator brush did the sme thing to sve a bunch of cash just replaced the brushes got luck and fixed it for 15 bux
@raymondperry8816
@raymondperry8816 4 года назад
This has to be done wvery time u disconnect ue battery i dont doubt u but if u can wxplain y it would deff clear things up
@nickmoss29
@nickmoss29 6 лет назад
Please share your wire diagram
@rjd72577
@rjd72577 9 лет назад
oh hell no ...you want that motor running ...just sitting dead might get ya 12 volts over reved but a good charge is 13
@333peacock333
@333peacock333 8 лет назад
damn i fucked up some where , i burned it up. its not whining like it was and the lights on the regulator are out. fuck.
@subvet657
@subvet657 8 лет назад
those aren't magnets....they are the brushes.
@bellmelvin90
@bellmelvin90 4 года назад
U should just said A side
@snoozakid
@snoozakid 7 лет назад
so bike I bought has been sitting for 13 years, I emptied oil out and refilled, the service manual I have is very vague but I was told I have to prime the oil pump to get oil to the top ?? any way you could show this ? I have a 1973 xlh 1000 sporster
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